Nissan: 370Z News
09-26-2004, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Why they lower the torque? Is the VQ engine pushing to its limits with 300hp?
I think they will either up the displacement (as rumored for the next-gen G35) or add a FI option to get more power for the next generation VQ.
09-26-2004, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Funny thing is this car and the new RL have the same power ratings from the same size engine.
3.5 liter V-6 with 300hp and 260lbs torque. I wonder where the RL makes it's peak power in the rev-line.
3.5 liter V-6 with 300hp and 260lbs torque. I wonder where the RL makes it's peak power in the rev-line.
I have a feeling the VQ's would be flatter with but drop as the revs rise, while the RL would build until redline.
09-26-2004, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cusdaddy
So basically, an increase of 13hp, but a loss of 14lb/ft of torque. I doubt this will do much to improve acceleration,
09-26-2004, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cusdaddy
I believe the current VQ is pretty much at it's limits NA. .
09-26-2004, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
This is a vague statement. I mean you can change a number of things in an engine's guts to make more power. There are numerous factors that will affect power. So if for example Nissan adds a different system of engine breathing, like a more advanced variable timing and intake, the engine has the potential to make more power. The only thing that's not vague about an engine is its displacement. Everything else can be imporved upon. So 300 HP from 3.5 liters is nowhere near a modern engine's limits as we know from other makers. You can easily make 100 hp per liter off of any NA engine.
In regards to this 300hp VQ engine, I've been reading that it does indeed have a number of internal modifications. It appears to be a slightly de-tuned version of the Nismo S1 engine. Which means that in order to add just a few extra hp, they had to add exhaust valve timing, a new ECU and numerous "structural improvements". Pretty big change to just get 13 extra hp IMO. Here's some interesting info:
Here's the official release on the 2005 G35c 6-speed engine. It's the same engine in the Track and 35th Anniv Z: (albeit with 2 less hp)
The G35 Coupe 6MT model receives an additional 18-plus horsepower and a red line increase to 7,000 rpm compared to the automatic transmission-equipped G35 coupes’ standard 280 horsepower and 6,600 rev limit, bringing its power to 298-horsepower. The extra power comes from the addition of electronic exhaust valve timing and numerous structural improvements to the engine block. Torque is rated at 270 lb-ft for the G35 Coupe and 260 lb-ft for the G35 Coupe 6MT.
Residing there is Nismo's S1 engine that produces an impressive 300 bhp at 6400 rpm and 268 lb.-ft. of torque at 4400.
The S1 is basically a pumped-up version of the 3.5-liter V-6 powerplant in the 350Z. Nismo engineers took apart the base VQ V-6 and rebuilt it using more than a dozen new parts — including new camshafts, revised ECU, freer-flowing intake and exhaust, heavy-duty clutch, a lightweight flywheel and reinforced valve springs and connecting rods. The result is a powerplant that's virtually race-ready, with excellent power delivery and throttle response throughout the rev range. It has a better top end, too, with the engine's redline extended from 6600 to 7200 rpm.
The S1 is basically a pumped-up version of the 3.5-liter V-6 powerplant in the 350Z. Nismo engineers took apart the base VQ V-6 and rebuilt it using more than a dozen new parts — including new camshafts, revised ECU, freer-flowing intake and exhaust, heavy-duty clutch, a lightweight flywheel and reinforced valve springs and connecting rods. The result is a powerplant that's virtually race-ready, with excellent power delivery and throttle response throughout the rev range. It has a better top end, too, with the engine's redline extended from 6600 to 7200 rpm.
09-26-2004, 10:48 PM
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Cusdaddy maybe right. All both on mods give very minimal HP, right around 300hp. This has been seen in Road and Track, Sport Compact Car and I think Super Street. Bolt ons add a few more horses. Even FI, the power increase is limited. If u want serious power (over 400hp) u got a lot of rebuilding to do.
The VQ is just an amazing engine to be used and tuned to so many different cars and vans.
Wow 7200 redline!
The VQ is just an amazing engine to be used and tuned to so many different cars and vans.
Wow 7200 redline!
09-27-2004, 06:28 PM
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Here is an example of this engine making 320 HP.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/ae...y.php?id=50262
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/ae...y.php?id=50262
09-28-2004, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Here is an example of this engine making 320 HP.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/ae...y.php?id=50262
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/ae...y.php?id=50262
09-28-2004, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by titan
That's interesting. So this car debuted at the Paris show with 320 HP. It's the same displacement as the engines used in the U.S. Doesn't Europe have stricter emission restrictions than the U.S. If so, could a version of this engine, probably making less that 320Hp, but more than 300Hp, come in the form of the M35?
No Europe does not have stricter emissions than the US. Especially CA. It's been traditionally less strict. Only lately I think they are par or close to that.
05-02-2005, 09:12 PM
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In the latest MT mag edition, the Cabrio 6MT (287HP) ran:
5.8 for the 60
14.2 @ 98.2 mph for the 1/4 mile
60-0 = 119 feet
600ft slalom = 66.2 mph
Lateral Acc.= 0.87 g
Base price $37330
As tested $41110
06-08-2005, 09:22 PM
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additonal shots here
http://forums.clubsi.com/showflat.ph...45&an=0&page=0
http://forums.clubsi.com/showflat.ph...45&an=0&page=0
06-08-2005, 10:33 PM
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How is this a "cabrio"? Shouldn't it be called a roadster since it's not a 4 seater? Regardless, impressive numbers but I hardly care for the car's look.
06-08-2005, 11:33 PM
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LED's on the 350z? nice.
06-09-2005, 09:31 AM
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I am not sure if that was the case in previous years but it looks like they applied the same thing they did in the case of G35C, where the driver gets a slightly "better" seat than the passenger.
06-09-2005, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
additonal shots here
http://forums.clubsi.com/showflat.ph...45&an=0&page=0
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Nice looking car.
06-09-2005, 01:00 PM
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Exterior = 
Interior =
Interior =
Interior looks like cheap plastic city from those pics.
06-09-2005, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
What's changed??As for the car overall, I still don't like the convertible. If these changes get passed onto the hard top (which logic states it should), then it gets a
from me.
06-09-2005, 08:38 PM
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When i went to stillen day and saw it, i didnt notice the differences at first. When i looked more closely, the headlights had larger projectors and overall it did change from how it was before. The tailights have LEDS now, the bumper is slightly different looking, the wheels are different. People were saying parts of the interior were improved, but im not sure which parts since im not too familiar with the Z
06-09-2005, 09:49 PM
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All those profits and they fix what DIDN'T need fixing. How about the damn interior, which is horrible for any car at any price. The RX-8 interior trounces this car.
The car looks tons better has a coupe, as a convert its so slab sided. Has anyone driven one? Yes its fast and handles great, yet you also are sitting under the damn car. I can't even lean my arm out the window.
I see tons around, its done a great job for Nissan
The car looks tons better has a coupe, as a convert its so slab sided. Has anyone driven one? Yes its fast and handles great, yet you also are sitting under the damn car. I can't even lean my arm out the window.
I see tons around, its done a great job for Nissan
06-09-2005, 10:51 PM
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interior sucks, but i think it is still better than corvette's or GTO's
06-10-2005, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 03TL-S
I dont think the interior is bad. I bet alot of people think the same way since the Z sells so well. I see Z's everywhere
I own a Z and the interior is not nearly as bad as some here are making it out to be. Yes, some of the plastics are a bit cheap, but it's well built (it never rattles, unlike my CL or 03 Accord), functional (I love the climate controls) and looks decent.
06-10-2005, 09:11 AM
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I own a Z and the interior is not nearly as bad as some here are making it out to be. Yes, some of the plastics are a bit cheap, but it's well built (it never rattles, unlike my CL or 03 Accord), functional (I love the climate controls) and looks decent.
mine rattled like a sumbitch by about 6k miles...then again i had 19's and live around some pretty f'd up roads.
06-10-2005, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaydef03
way too boring. id take a g35 over this anyday of the week
No more of less boring than the Z.
Not to mention they are both common as shit.
06-10-2005, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AcuraGT-3
All those profits and they fix what DIDN'T need fixing. How about the damn interior, which is horrible for any car at any price. The RX-8 interior trounces this car.
06-10-2005, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by zeroday
mine rattled like a sumbitch by about 6k miles...then again i had 19's and live around some pretty f'd up roads.With the firm suspension and not to great interior plastics, I thought it would make more noise than it does. Most likely due to being built in Japan vs the US for my old CL and Accord.
06-24-2005, 09:01 PM
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Nissan at Goodwood Speed Festival
Nissan will be showing its performance side at the 2005 Goodwood Festival of Speed (24-26 June) with cars you can buy and some you can’t. Leading the charge will be a 350Z specially developed by Nissan Motorsport International. The company also played an important role in assisting RML motorsport to build a unique 350Z engined Micra to be displayed on Nissan’s stand. Parked alongside it will be the rather more available Micra 160SR as well as the 350Z Roadster, a Murano and the new Navara, the most powerful pick-up officially imported into the UK. Driving in the Contemporary Racing Saloon Cars category will be the race winning ’99 Primera BTCC car. And festival goers will be able to get dirty in a Pathfinder or Patrol on the 4x4 course.
Nissan Motorsport International – NISMO – specially developed a version of the 350Z to celebrate their win in the Japanese 2004 GT500 Touring Car Championship. It’s called the NISMO 350Z S-tune GT and is a road-going version of the race car. 20 are hand-built every month in Japan and the car driving at Goodwood, specially imported by Nissan Motor (GB) Ltd, is believed to be the only one in the UK. The S-tune has extended front and rear bumpers, side-sills and a rear wing modelled on the GT car. As if that wasn’t enough, NISMO five-spoke 19" wheels, racing stripes and pearlescent white paint will ensure this Nissan gets noticed in the Brooklands paddock.
Under the bonnet, NISMO has extensively modified Nissan’s VQ35 engine to give 300PS and a maximum rev limit of 7200rpm. The exhaust and cooling system has also been uprated, the clutch reinforced and NISMO’s G-ATTACK S-tune suspension system installed. The interior hasn’t been neglected, either. Lightweight, Alcantara upholstered racing seats will keep the drivers securely planted during the Supercar run. Just as well because piloting the S-tune on the Sunday of Goodwood will be experienced driver and Sky News presenter, Ginny Buckley.
The NISMO 350Z S-tune GT, worth around £50,000, is attending the Goodwood Festival of Speed to give more exposure to Nissan’s motorsport arm. Although Nissan doesn’t officially import the S-tune into the UK, the standard 350Z Coupe and Roadster are on sale here in limited numbers. And a less dramatic version of the S-tune’s bodykit and its 19" wheels are available from Nissan dealers.
NISMO has also breathed on the engine that has been fitted to a very special Micra which, too, is making its debut at this year’s Goodwood Festival of Speed. The Micra R shown at last year’s event has become the Micra RV6 after a heart transplant conducted by Ray Mallock Limited, based in Wellingborough, using a 350Z engine with NISMO parts to produce 310PS and 363Nm of torque. Its engine is rear mounted, where the Micra’s rear seat would normally go, and drives the rear wheels through a six-speed manual gearbox shared with the American market Nissan Altima SE-R. 350Z wheels and hubs are used along with specially machined drive shafts. Painted in the 2005 350Z Japanese GT touring car colours, the muscular Micra RV6 will be showing off its new engine on the Nissan stand. Its sub-five second 0-60mph acceleration and 150mph+ top speed will be proven at a later date.
The Primera being entered into Goodwood’s ‘Supermarket to Supertouring’ category has nothing to prove. This is the car that won Nissan the manufacturer’s title in the 1999 British Touring Car Championship and marked the final development of the ultimate Supertourer. The Primera, now owned by Pro Motorsport Ltd and sponsored by Nissan Motor (GB) Ltd, will be driven at Goodwood by Anthony Reid, a name familiar from Nissan’s 1997 and ’98 teams.
Nissan will be showing its performance side at the 2005 Goodwood Festival of Speed (24-26 June) with cars you can buy and some you can’t. Leading the charge will be a 350Z specially developed by Nissan Motorsport International. The company also played an important role in assisting RML motorsport to build a unique 350Z engined Micra to be displayed on Nissan’s stand. Parked alongside it will be the rather more available Micra 160SR as well as the 350Z Roadster, a Murano and the new Navara, the most powerful pick-up officially imported into the UK. Driving in the Contemporary Racing Saloon Cars category will be the race winning ’99 Primera BTCC car. And festival goers will be able to get dirty in a Pathfinder or Patrol on the 4x4 course.
Nissan Motorsport International – NISMO – specially developed a version of the 350Z to celebrate their win in the Japanese 2004 GT500 Touring Car Championship. It’s called the NISMO 350Z S-tune GT and is a road-going version of the race car. 20 are hand-built every month in Japan and the car driving at Goodwood, specially imported by Nissan Motor (GB) Ltd, is believed to be the only one in the UK. The S-tune has extended front and rear bumpers, side-sills and a rear wing modelled on the GT car. As if that wasn’t enough, NISMO five-spoke 19" wheels, racing stripes and pearlescent white paint will ensure this Nissan gets noticed in the Brooklands paddock.
Under the bonnet, NISMO has extensively modified Nissan’s VQ35 engine to give 300PS and a maximum rev limit of 7200rpm. The exhaust and cooling system has also been uprated, the clutch reinforced and NISMO’s G-ATTACK S-tune suspension system installed. The interior hasn’t been neglected, either. Lightweight, Alcantara upholstered racing seats will keep the drivers securely planted during the Supercar run. Just as well because piloting the S-tune on the Sunday of Goodwood will be experienced driver and Sky News presenter, Ginny Buckley.
The NISMO 350Z S-tune GT, worth around £50,000, is attending the Goodwood Festival of Speed to give more exposure to Nissan’s motorsport arm. Although Nissan doesn’t officially import the S-tune into the UK, the standard 350Z Coupe and Roadster are on sale here in limited numbers. And a less dramatic version of the S-tune’s bodykit and its 19" wheels are available from Nissan dealers.
NISMO has also breathed on the engine that has been fitted to a very special Micra which, too, is making its debut at this year’s Goodwood Festival of Speed. The Micra R shown at last year’s event has become the Micra RV6 after a heart transplant conducted by Ray Mallock Limited, based in Wellingborough, using a 350Z engine with NISMO parts to produce 310PS and 363Nm of torque. Its engine is rear mounted, where the Micra’s rear seat would normally go, and drives the rear wheels through a six-speed manual gearbox shared with the American market Nissan Altima SE-R. 350Z wheels and hubs are used along with specially machined drive shafts. Painted in the 2005 350Z Japanese GT touring car colours, the muscular Micra RV6 will be showing off its new engine on the Nissan stand. Its sub-five second 0-60mph acceleration and 150mph+ top speed will be proven at a later date.
The Primera being entered into Goodwood’s ‘Supermarket to Supertouring’ category has nothing to prove. This is the car that won Nissan the manufacturer’s title in the 1999 British Touring Car Championship and marked the final development of the ultimate Supertourer. The Primera, now owned by Pro Motorsport Ltd and sponsored by Nissan Motor (GB) Ltd, will be driven at Goodwood by Anthony Reid, a name familiar from Nissan’s 1997 and ’98 teams.
06-24-2005, 11:04 PM
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06-25-2005, 12:46 AM
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I thought the Z was hot when it came out. Ever since, it's been dwindling in the looks department... it's officially an ugly car in my book.
Sucks, cause I could really live with the performance.
Sucks, cause I could really live with the performance.
06-25-2005, 08:09 AM
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I thought the Z was hot when it came out. Ever since, it's been dwindling in the looks department... it's officially an ugly car in my book.
Sucks, cause I could really live with the performance.
Sucks, cause I could really live with the performance.
I still think this is a great looking car. Very much a modern 240Z.