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Old 03-27-2015, 04:09 PM
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Mercedes-Benz: X-Class News **Revealed (page 1)**

Model name TBA...

Didnít see this one coming! Mercedes-Benz is entering the pick-up market and has released this sketch of what the first mid-sized truck might look like.

The new vehicle will be developed by the brandsí van division, and will focus mainly on Latin America, South Africa, Australia and Europe. Merc sees potential for sustained growth in the truck market, and says the first vehicle will be released before 2020.

Expect the focus to be mainly on practicality rather than super-luxury, but at the same time, itís Mercedes, so itíll have a bit of class over the competition. Weíd love to see a few swanky versions made. And maybe an AMGÖ? Come on Mercedes, we canít let the Ford Raptor hog all the glory.

Could this be the start of a premium pickup craze? It sounds weird now, but there are plenty of markets where the regular man-about-town loves a pickup. And letís not forget that 20 years ago there was no such thing as a premium SUV. Mercedes takes credit for changing that with the introduction of the M-Class. Now you can barely move for premium SUVs, and even the likes of Rolls-Royce and Bentley are now getting involved.

Mercedes says more pickups are being used for private purposes, and that commercial as well as private users are asking for vehicles with more car-like specifications, rather than utilitarian, hose-down interiors and few options.

A look at the Mercedes-Benz Vans division shows the scope of whatís possible. The likes of the V-Class and Vito show that itís possible to have luxury-level commercial vehicles. We wait the new Merc pick-up with considerable intrigue.
Source: The new Mercedes-Benz pick-up | crankandpiston.com Car Culture Lifestyle
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They must have seen how the Blackwood/Mark LT and the Escalade EXT sold to choose to exclude NA from their target market.
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Mercedes-Benz is officially working on a pickup truck, though whether or not the vehicle will make it to the U.S. is still up in the air. A few things we do know about the pickup is that it will be a mid-size model and feature a dual-cab design, the latter indicated in the official teaser sketch above. Mercedes has also confirmed that the pickup will be based on a body-on-frame platform shared with the next-generation Nissan NP300 (a Navara in certain markets), and that production will take place at plants in Argentina and Spain.

Now, we have a few more details by way of an interview by CAR with the head of Mercedes’ commercial vehicles unit, Volker Mornhinweg. In the interview, Mornhinweg explained that Mercedes didn’t want to develop a “fat cowboy truck” for the North American market, which is dominated by the Detroit 3 brands. That’s why Mercedes has chosen to focus on the Australian, European, Latin American and South African markets, where mid-size pickups also double as premium lifestyle vehicles.

Mornhinweg didn’t say what volumes Mercedes is expecting for the vehicle but did point out that globally, the mid-size pickup segment sees about 2.3 million sales annually and that most of these are for Toyota products.

CAR goes on to report that the pickup will be badged a “GLT” and that it will offer four- and six-cylinder engines, presumably in gasoline and diesel flavors. There will also allegedly be three different trim levels to choose from, aimed at utility, dual-purpose use and leisure respectively. The report also claims that beyond a standard live rear axle, buyers will be able to opt for independent rear suspension as well as all-wheel drive.

The Mercedes pickup is due to arrive near the end of the decade. A decision on a U.S. launch will be made by the end of this year.
Mercedes-Benz Pickup To Be Badged A ?GLT?
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won't do well in NA, everywhere else it will go fine
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BBC - Autos - X-Class is the Mercedes-Benz of pickups

X-Class is the Mercedes-Benz of pickups

Closing 'one of the last gaps' in its vehicle portfolio, the German carmaker braves new territory with a luxury-laden midsize truck.
  • By Matthew Phenix
25 October 2016Certainly inspired by the rousing success of the burly Volkswagen Amarok, Mercedes-Benz today pulled the wraps off a midsize luxury pickup of its own. On a stage at the Artipelag art museum in Stockholm, Sweden, the Concept X-Class arrived in two forms: a pearly white stylish explorer and a pea-green powerful adventurer. "With the Mercedes-Benz pickup," said Daimler CEO Dieter Zetsche, "we will close one of the last gaps in our portfolio."

Technically, the X-Class isn't Mercedes' first pickup; the company's Argentine arm experimented with two- and four-door production pickups back in the 1970s. The 220D "La Pick-up" more closely resembled a funeral flower car or a parts runner for a race team than a traditional pickup, but it earned a passionate following. "I guess it wasn't exactly the toughest pickup ever from a technological point of view, " said Zetsche, "and it wasn't a great success from an economic point of view, either. But it grew a huge fan base."

From a style standpoint, the powerful adventurer is arguabily the more successful of the two X-Class versions, with winches fore and aft, ginormous tyres and a little fire extinquisher on the dashboard. The truck is believably capable and handsome in an unsurprising way; the adventure-ready model looks quite a bit like the modified Toyota Hilux the former Top Gear boys drove to the North Pole back in 2009 (minus the Bumper Dumper).All X-Class trucks will feature a stout ladder-frame structure, torque-rich V6 engines and permanent all-wheel drive. The debut event was heavy on adjectives, light on numbers, but Mercedes says the truck will be sufficently muscular to haul four cubic metres of firewood and tow a sailboat at the same time. Because, you know, outdoors. Naturally, the X-Class will carry the usual array of Mercedes safety and luxury touches.

A production version of the X-Class arrives at the end of 2017. In addition to Europe, Mercedes plans to drop the truck into showrooms in Argentina, Brazil, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand. The US is not on the list. An AMG version is inevitable; a Maybach version is improbable (but fun to imagine).
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I seriously thought this was some kind of crude joke when I first heard of it. Photoshopped pix, for sure.

But it's legit, it's even on MB's site:

https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/mer...ncept-x-class/
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I saw it making the rounds on facebook (so obviously it had to be real )



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I'll take this one instead:






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Looks better than the Ridgeline
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Looks better than the Ridgeline

pretty low bar there
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That rear end is horrendous.....here's here's the NIssan Navara that the X-Class is based on:
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that Nissan looks better
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That green one looks like something Pontiac would have brought to the auto show back in the 90s
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It will be the status symbol for douchebags everywhere
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It's too sleek, much like the new ridgeline. Might as well put pink fuzzy dice hanging from the rear view mirror. Trucks are supposed to be boxy as fuck. The more of a rectangle you drive, the bigger the balls you have. Or something to that effect.
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damn didn't even know it was based on a Nissan.

what's next, is BMW's version going to be based on a Toyota truck??? Oh, wait.....
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I'm not the biggest Mercedes fan out there...they rank pretty low on my "Want to have" lists unless you're talking about true classics...and yet, I find myself really liking this one.
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This is not a half-ton correct? Something closer to a tacoma or colarado? I wonder what the pricing will be like, if they price it like the true half-tons it is DOA. No one is going to buy this to haul around shit, otoh, I do see the that mercedes sprinter thing quite often, wonder if this would follow in popularity as a work truck as sell.

I can bet this will 100% be a status symbol for deuce bags...I however don't see them paying 70k for something like this to show off.
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This is not a half-ton correct? Something closer to a tacoma or colarado? I wonder what the pricing will be like, if they price it like the true half-tons it is DOA. No one is going to buy this to haul around shit, otoh, I do see the that mercedes sprinter thing quite often, wonder if this would follow in popularity as a work truck as sell.

I can bet this will 100% be a status symbol for deuce bags...I however don't see them paying 70k for something like this to show off.
I think it's right in the Taco/Colorado/Frontier segment, size-wise & likely to outprice them all. Wouldn't be surprised to see it reaching the $40-50k range when optioned out.
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In addition to Europe, Mercedes plans to drop the truck into showrooms in Argentina, Brazil, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand. The US is not on the list.
In those places, much less likely someone will buy it for other than practical reasons.
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Are those front and rear winches factory options? If so, that's awesome.

Still wouldn't buy one.
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Press release...

With the Concept X-CLASS, Mercedes-Benz Vans gives a concrete outlook on its new pickup, the X-Class, in Stockholm. The first premium pickup will combine the best of two worlds. This is demonstrated impressively by Mercedes-Benz with two design variants of the concept car. The Concept X-CLASS powerful adventurer illustrates that the future X-Class will possess all the strengths of a classic pickup – tough, functional, strong, and with off-road capability. The Concept X-CLASS stylish explorer goes a step further and shows what will distinguish the pickup bearing the Mercedes star. The X-Class will be a true Mercedes from the hallmark brand design and comfort to the driving dynamics and safety. This will make Mercedes-Benz the first premium manufacturer to account for the changing customer requirements in the global segment of mid-size pickups, and it will make the tough one-ton pickup with seating for up to five persons the first to be attractive as an urban lifestyle and family vehicle.

With the pickup, Mercedes-Benz Vans will expand its product range with a fourth model series. At the same time, the brand bearing the three-pointed star will become the first premium manufacturer to occupy the promising segment of mid-size pickups. Daimler AG will make investments in the high nine figures (euro) in the new model series by the time of the market launch. It will be launched in late 2017 under the name Mercedes-Benz X-Class. The key markets will be Argentina, Brazil, South Africa, Australia with New Zealand, and Europe.

Dr Dieter Zetsche, Chairman of the Board of Daimler AG and Head of Mercedes-Benz Cars: "With the Mercedes-Benz pickup, we will close one of the last gaps in our portfolio. Our target: we want to offer customers vehicles matching their specific needs. The X-Class will set new standards in a growing segment."

"We will open up and change the segment of mid-size pickups – with the world's first true premium pickup for the modern urban lifestyle", says Volker Mornhinweg, Head of Mercedes-Benz Vans. "Our future X-Class will be a pickup that knows no compromise. Ladder-type frame, high-torque six-cylinder engine, and permanent all-wheel drive are compulsory for us. As an added value we bring safety, comfort, agility, and expressive design – in other words, everything that distinguishes vehicles bearing the Mercedes star. We will thus appeal to new customers who have not considered owning a pickup before."

Changing segment: Mercedes-Benz first premium manufacturer of a pickup

Worldwide the market for mid-size pickups is undergoing a radical change. Gone are the days when they were bought as mere "workhorses". Instead, they are becoming increasingly popular as versatile vehicles for a simultaneous private and commercial use and as vehicles for a strictly private use. The percentage of privately used pickups has been growing steadily for years. Accordingly, the double cab has emerged as the dominating body style, because it offers room for up to five persons. More and more private and commercial customers ask for vehicles with the characteristics and comfort features of a passenger car. A similar development took place in the segment of off-road vehicles some 20 years ago. Back then, Mercedes-Benz was the first premium manufacturer to launch a sport utility vehicle (SUV), the M-Class, and completely redefined the off-road segment – with lasting success.

"The Concept X-CLASS design variants interpret the hallmark brand design idiom of our SUVs in a most expressive form, and embody the dichotomy of our design philosophy: they are hot and cool", says Gorden Wagener, Head of Design at Daimler AG. "With its progressive design the powerful adventurer expresses cool modernity and thirst for adventure, while the stylish explorer on the other hand uses pure emotion to provide a tangible experience of modern beauty."

Concept X-CLASS stylish explorer: progressive design with SUV looks

The Concept X-CLASS stylish explorer, painted in a cool elegant white metallic, impressively demonstrates how the Mercedes-Benz pickup will make a decidedly stylish statement in its segment and in the urban environment. The contrast of emotionally appealing and yet purist surface treatment ("hot") and technically precise, innovative and clever details ("cool") reinterprets the design philosophy of Mercedes-Benz. The athletic design lends the concept car a markedly expressive and dynamic appearance. The distinctive front represents an evolution of the hallmark SUV face of the brand – with a more massive powerdome on the bonnet and headlamps extending far into the wings. The classic SUV front apron and the strongly flared wheel arches put even more emphasis on the sense of width, and give the vehicle an even more solid stance on the road. At the same time, the front cites the single-louvre grille with centrally positioned Mercedes star, the face of the elegant Mercedes-Benz coupťs.

The flared front and rear wings make room for a wide track and large tyre/wheel combinations for tough off-road use. 22-inch light-alloy wheels with a contrasting anthracite chrome finish give the Concept X-CLASS stylish explorer a towering and superior stance. The running boards are integrated into the bodywork and emphasise the athletically sculpted body. Depending on the angle of the incoming light, the paintwork developed specifically for this concept car lends the urban pickup a look that gives the athletic profile even more emotional appeal.

The extremely short front overhang, the very long rear overhang and two long lines stretching along the side amplify the focus placed on driving dynamics. The rear of both concept cars sports the hallmark chromed SUV trim at the lower edge, and, as a distinctive feature, a continuous LED light strip in a slim chrome surround on the tailgate. It points to the unique character of the future pickup.

Stylish interior with a high level of operating and display comfort

The interior of the Concept X-CLASS stylish explorer is an equally emotional and stylish statement – characterised by an intriguing contrast of warm and cool colours, as well as by high-quality materials. The world of colours and materials translates the Mercedes-Benz design philosophy of sensual purity. The sensual touch and feel of the brown, very natural nubuck leather on the seats provides a cosy feel. This warm colour, which is also found on the dashboard, is combined with cool white nappa leather. The trim made of open-pore smoked oak contrasts with the brushed and polished aluminium trim elements. The world of modern luxury is realised in a highly stylish fashion.

The modern flair is further boosted by round air vents, the free-standing high-resolution central display as well as the central controller and multifunctional touchpad. Similar to a smartphone, all telematics functions can be controlled with the touchpad by using gestures or by entering letters and characters. Mercedes-Benz thus introduces the most modern control and display concept in the segment of mid-size pickups. At the same time, the characteristics and functionalities typical in the pickup segment have been retained, such as the handbrake in the centre console.

Concept X-CLASS powerful adventurer: the redefinition of toughness

Complementing the Concept X-CLASS stylish explorer, the second concept car focuses on the classic traits of a pickup. The Concept X-CLASS powerful adventurer with a lemonax metallic paint finish stages toughness, durability, and off-road capability. As a result, it impressively underscores the fact that the future Mercedes-Benz pickup will combine comfort and style with the basic virtues of this vehicle category.

The Concept X-CLASS powerful adventurer towers above it all with a height of 1.90 metres. Large tyres of size 35x11.50, the huge ground clearance, and the athletic design instil respect even at first glance. The brand's hallmark SUV radiator grille with two louvres, front and rear underride guard, wing claddings, and matte carbon wheel arches additionally underscore the superior off-road aesthetics. An electric winch at the front and a metal hook at the rear are further indications of the toughness and power of the future pickup.

With its progressive design the concept car exudes independence and thirst for adventure in their purest forms. This feel continues in the interior. Matte carbon elements in the exterior and interior, metallic brushed surfaces, and a bold colour scheme lend the vehicle a sense of power. The lemonax metallic exterior paint finish is perfectly tailored to the interior colour highlights. The colour and material concept underscores the outdoor look with glossy black nappa leather and the use of carbon-style black embossed leather surfaces. To ensure the seats provide lateral support in all handling situations and in any terrain, the seat side bolsters are trimmed with black leather that offers extremely good grip and has a pleasantly soft touch and feel.

The X-Class: powerful engine, high ride comfort, and exemplary safety

As is the norm for Mercedes-Benz, customers of the X-Class will be able to choose from different equipment scopes to customise the exterior and interior. In addition, the premium brand will develop a special range of accessories for the pickup, for example bed covers and various styling elements. Thanks to the tried and proven modular strategy, a host of interior components that customers know and appreciate from the C-Class and V-Class will be found in the X-Class – from the perfectly finished high-quality materials and the infotainment system to the ergonomic seating comfort. As a result, the pickup will offer the "welcome home" feeling typical of the brand, and define a new level of comfort and value appeal in the segment of mid-size pickups.

The X-Class will also set new standards in the segment with regard to connected life. Thanks to the communication module with on-board SIM card, it will be possible to use the extensive Mercedes me connect services. Drivers can connect with their pickup by smartphone, tablet or PC at any time and from anywhere. For example, to send navigation destinations to the vehicle or query where the pickup is parked and how much fuel is in the tank. In addition to these optional remote online services, standard services such as accident recovery, maintenance management and breakdown management will also be available.

Variety will likewise distinguish the engine range. The top-of-the-line model will be powered by a V6 diesel in combination with 4MATIC permanent all-wheel drive. The high-torque engine will provide high driving dynamics on the road and off the road. The all-wheel-drive system will combine an electronic traction system, a transfer case with reduction gear, and two differential locks. The traction system and the electrically operated on-demand differential locks channel the power to where traction is best. Under extreme off-road conditions, the rear differential and the inter-axle differential can be locked. This will make it possible to safely master difficult obstacles and inclines.

The powerful drive system and the tough ladder-type frame will make a payload of more than 1.1 ton and a towing capacity of up to 3.5 tons possible. Enough power for transporting some four cubic metres of firewood on the pickup bed and a sail boat hooked up to the trailer coupling, for example. At the same time, the specially constructed suspension with wide axles, a five-link rear axle with coil springs, and a precisely calibrated spring/damper set-up will ensure a high ride comfort – on the road and off the road. The pickup bearing the three-pointed star will impress with precise steering, a comfortable ride, and agile cornering. It will absorb bumps in a superior fashion, making it a perfect fit for the urban environment.

Like all Mercedes vehicles, the pickup will be distinguished by exemplary safety. Modern driver assistance systems based on cameras, radar and ultrasound sensors will support and relieve the driver in many situations, and in so doing equally enhance safety and comfort. A host of assistance systems will already come as standard.

The Mercedes among pickups: focus on five customer groups

The X-Class will combine the strengths of a pickup with the value appeal, comfort, driving fun, and safety that distinguish the vehicles bearing the Mercedes star. As a result, the Mercedes-Benz pickup will bridge the gap between commercial and private and between urban and rural use. It will consequently appeal not only to pickup owners wishing for more car-like characteristics, performance, safety, and comfort, but also and above all to people who drive a passenger car, SUV or van. Extensive market research studies conducted by Mercedes-Benz with potential customers in the target markets bear this out.

Mid-size pickups currently have the largest share of the total vehicle market in Australia with 14.1 percent. Argentina comes close behind with 11.6 percent. This means that in these countries, one out of every eight registered vehicles is a pickup in the one-ton category. In Brazil, mid-size pickups have a share of almost five percent of the total vehicle market. That figure is 0.5 percent in Germany, 1.3 percent in Great Britain, 1.4 percent in Turkey, and 0.8 percent in Russia.

Based on its market research studies, Mercedes-Benz has identified five customer groups for the X-Class, which are of different relevance in the individual countries.

One important target group is constituted by families with an active lifestyle and an affinity to premium products. They use the pickup mostly for commuting to work, for shopping, taking the kids to school or sports activities, for weekend trips, and vacation. The key markets are Brazil, Argentina, Australia, and South Africa.

Another target group for the X-Class are successful adventurers, who live in an urban environment and participate in outdoor sports such as skiing or riding jet skis, or have their own boat. They need a comfortable premium vehicle for everyday use that at the same time offers sufficient cargo space and towing capacity for their recreational equipment. The top markets are Australia, South Africa, Brazil, Great Britain, and Germany.

In addition, the Mercedes-Benz pickup will have the potential to inspire trend-conscious individualists with an affinity to premium products. They lead an independent lifestyle and want a vehicle outside the mainstream that underscores their personality and status with a unique design. Independent individualists use the pickup as an "everyday vehicle" in the city, for evening and weekend activities, and for sporting events. The key markets for this target group are Germany, Great Britain, South Africa, and Brazil.

The fourth customer group comprises business owners such as building contractors, architects, and service providers who want to use their pickup for commercial and private purposes: that is as a comfortable company car for customer meetings, which is equally perfect for transporting customers and employees as well as tools and building materials, as an "everyday vehicle", and as a vehicle for weekend activities. Significant markets for business owners are Germany, Great Britain, Australia, and Argentina.

Landowners, such as cattle ranchers in Argentina, soy bean farmers in Brazil or vintners in South Africa, also use their pickup for commercial and private purposes. They need a vehicle that on the one hand takes them through unpaved terrain and has sufficient cargo and towing capacity. On the other hand, it must be suitable for driving to customer and supplier meetings as well as for use as an "everyday vehicle" for the family.

Production cooperation with Renault-Nissan

The market launch of the Mercedes-Benz X-Class in Europe will begin in late 2017. The new model series will be positioned in the segment at an attractive price. The pickup will be manufactured in a production cooperation with the Renault-Nissan Alliance. Production for the European, Australian and South African markets will start at the Nissan plant in Barcelona, Spain, in 2017. The X-Class for the Latin American market will roll off the assembly lines at the Renault plant in Cordoba, Argentina, starting in 2018.

With the X-Class, Daimler AG and the Renault-Nissan Alliance expand their strategic cooperation which began six years ago. This affords Mercedes-Benz fast and cost-efficient entrance to the fast-growing segment of mid-size pickups. In addition, both companies benefit from optimal utilisation of the production capacity. Nissan is the second-largest manufacturer of mid-size pickups with a payload of one ton in the world, and can look back on more than 80 years of experience in producing and marketing these types of vehicles.
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In those places, much less likely someone will buy it for other than practical reasons.
Adding on to your post, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

Though I learned about how Sprinter vans bypass that, interesting. Don't see why they don't do the same thing
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Adding on to your post, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

Though I learned about how Sprinter vans bypass that, interesting. Don't see why they don't do the same thing
Because it's expensive to do and American's aren't going to buy a truck without a Ford, Chevy, or Dodge badge on the hood anyway.
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Because it's expensive to do and American's aren't going to buy a truck without a Ford, Chevy, or Dodge or Toyota badge on the hood anyway.

Lots of Tundras/Tacos down here. Not near as many as F150s/Silverados, but lots.

But, you're right, I just don't see much chance of the XClass being a big seller. I don't even see many CLA/GLA around here.
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Because it's expensive to do and American's aren't going to buy a truck without a Ford, Chevy, or Dodge badge on the hood anyway.
That's true. Didn't realize the Cadillac EXT was discontinued in 2013. All the rappers bought one each for themselves and their crew already by then, seems like

Can't remember the last time I saw one on the road anyway.

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Lots of Tundras/Tacos down here. Not near as many as F150s/Silverados, but lots.

But, you're right, I just don't see much chance of the XClass being a big seller. I don't even see many CLA/GLA around here.
Yeah... even the Tundra Platinum 5.7L runs around 50k. Can't imagine what an X-Class would cost.

I can't lie either, the idea of a plush MB truck with 4-wheel independent suspension (nobody is going to off-road this) and a 6-cyl diesel sounds like an amazing tow rig.
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Yeah... even the Tundra Platinum 5.7L runs around 50k. Can't imagine what an X-Class would cost.

I can't lie either, the idea of a plush MB truck with 4-wheel independent suspension (nobody is going to off-road this) and a 6-cyl diesel sounds like an amazing tow rig.
Yeah, but Tundra = Full-size, XClass = Midsize. So the Taco would be a more accurate 'competitor' to it. Tacos get pretty pricey as well, same with the Colorado.
I expect the X to start high & go higher. Considering a loaded GLA250 4Matic is nearly $50k, I'd think the X would possibly get closer to $60k here.

In other (Euro) markets, they can offer lower content vehicles, which I'd think would cut costs a good bit. The US market starts at their mid-level & goes up.
Not sure on current models, but I know previously, things like cloth seats & manual transmissions are available elsewhere; while we get MB-tex or leather only.
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Yeah, but Tundra = Full-size, XClass = Midsize. So the Taco would be a more accurate 'competitor' to it. Tacos get pretty pricey as well, same with the Colorado.
I expect the X to start high & go higher. Considering a loaded GLA250 4Matic is nearly $50k, I'd think the X would possibly get closer to $60k here.

In other (Euro) markets, they can offer lower content vehicles, which I'd think would cut costs a good bit. The US market starts at their mid-level & goes up.
Not sure on current models, but I know previously, things like cloth seats & manual transmissions are available elsewhere; while we get MB-tex or leather only.
My mistake for not clarifying, I was only comparing price. But for a full-size pickup, the 5.7L Tundra offers a lot more utility than even what I would imagine a $60k X-Class would, which would make it a difficult proposition for most potential pickup buyers.
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My mistake for not clarifying, I was only comparing price. But for a full-size pickup, the 5.7L Tundra offers a lot more utility than even what I would imagine a $60k X-Class would, which would make it a difficult proposition for most potential pickup buyers.
Agreed completely. But, again, I seriously doubt the average X-Class owner wants the same utility that the average American full-size truck owner.
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Agreed completely. But, again, I seriously doubt the average X-Class owner wants the same utility that the average American full-size truck owner.
Right. A pickup gets trashed and worked heavily in a lot of cases. Why spend Mercedes money if you're just going to destroy the interior and exterior?
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Lots of Tundras/Tacos down here. Not near as many as F150s/Silverados, but lots.

But, you're right, I just don't see much chance of the XClass being a big seller. I don't even see many CLA/GLA around here.
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That's true. Didn't realize the Cadillac EXT was discontinued in 2013. All the rappers bought one each for themselves and their crew already by then, seems like

Can't remember the last time I saw one on the road anyway.



Yeah... even the Tundra Platinum 5.7L runs around 50k. Can't imagine what an X-Class would cost.

I can't lie either, the idea of a plush MB truck with 4-wheel independent suspension (nobody is going to off-road this) and a 6-cyl diesel sounds like an amazing tow rig.
They already make this, it's called the ML320 or GLE320 or whatever the hell it's called this week. I think the big GL also gets a diesel and would tow quite well. Having a truck bed doesn't automatically make something a good tow rig lol.

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Agreed completely. But, again, I seriously doubt the average X-Class owner wants the same utility that the average American full-size truck owner.
The average American full size truck owner doesn't give a crap about utility, it's mostly about image. If they did, they'd be buying Ridgelines hand over fist as that is currently the most useful and economical truck on the market today.

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Right. A pickup gets trashed and worked heavily in a lot of cases. Why spend Mercedes money if you're just going to destroy the interior and exterior?
Same reason you'd drop $70k on a F150 Limited.
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They already make this, it's called the ML320 or GLE320 or whatever the hell it's called this week. I think the big GL also gets a diesel and would tow quite well. Having a truck bed doesn't automatically make something a good tow rig lol.
It does, if you're trying to tow a fifth wheel. But yeah, that isn't exactly for everybody.

The average American full size truck owner doesn't give a crap about utility, it's mostly about image. If they did, they'd be buying Ridgelines hand over fist as that is currently the most useful and economical truck on the market today.

Same reason you'd drop $70k on a F150 Limited.
I think utility and imagine both go hand in hand for those buyers. I would think higher driving position and perception of safety are either their own merits, or more in line with utility rather than image.

But yes, the Ridgeline is a nice alternative
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Right. A pickup gets trashed and worked heavily in a lot of cases. Why spend Mercedes money if you're just going to destroy the interior and exterior?

I don't see the X-class filling the pickup truck segment. I do however see it as posing some competition or filing a niche for some mid size crossovers that can actually tow. For example the Jeep GC can tow about 7200(400-600?) pounds, the VW touareg and porsche cayenne can tow 7700 pounds, Durango is 7400 pounds I believe. I know of quite a few people who buy diesel touaregs to tow good sized boats and motor homes and the Touareg costs 50k-70k here in Canada while the Jeep GC is 40k-70k. I probably glossed over it, but has the tow rating been mentioned? If this thing can't tow...then it is DOA.

Edit: Looks like it can tow 3.5 tons, exact match to the capabilities of the touareg. I don't see it selling well, but I can expect a few hundred per month...maybe thousand.

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