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Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class News

DaimlerChrysler AG has registered the name:

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Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG...

(Hope this is not a repost)

My dream-semi-realistic-I-can-possibly-own-one-day car gets yet more power...EEK. When does the madness stop? Up next, cars from 0-60 in 1.5s!??!? But, wow...I love this machine...

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2004 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG





Most Powerful Roadster in the World

12-cylinder AMG biturbo engine, an output of 450 kW/612 hp and a maximum torque of 1000 Nm - the new SL 65 AMG is the world's most powerful and highest-torque series-produced roadster. The open-top two-seater not only maintains Mercedes-AMG's impressive V12 tradition; it also offers a level of per-formance previously unheard of in this engine size class: the SL 65 AMG acceler-ates from 0 to 100 km/h in 4.2 seconds and passes the 200 km/h mark after just 12.9 seconds; its top speed is 250 km/h (electronically governed).

With its modified AMG sports suspension, mechanical differential lock and newly developed AMG high-performance brake system with composite discs, front and rear, the ultra-powerful high-performance Roadster's dynamic handling is certainly impressive. And the exclusive standard equipment on-board this open-top dream car underlines the technological ambition behind it. The new AMG V12 flagship model extends the number of SL-Class engine versions to five. The market launch of the SL 65 AMG is scheduled for June 2004.

Much of the credit for the AMG 6.0-litre V12 engine's extraordinary performance must go to the biturbo system, which features larger turbochargers and powerful water-type charge-air cooling. The remarkable maximum torque of 1000 Nm remains constantly on tap between 2000 and 4000 rpm. The 570-Nm torque which the AMG V12 biturbo engine delivers to the crankshaft at just 1000 rpm rises to 830 Nm 500 rpm later.

The AMG 12-cylinder is as ideally suited to powerful acceleration in the highest engine speed range as it is to relaxed cruising in high gear. Superbly responsive, yet smooth and refined, it guarantees the high level of touring comfort traditionally associated with Mercedes. Exciting high-tech features are revealed as soon as the bonnet is opened. The redesigned engine cover, which is made from deep-drawn aluminium and carbon-fibre reinforced plastic (CFRP) is a visual treat.

The 12-cylinder engine is assembled by hand at the AMG engine facility - right next to the line where the supercharged AMG V8 for the Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren is produced. The 'one man, one engine' philosophy is reflected by the characteristic signature plate on the AMG V12 which bears the name of the specialist who assembled the engine and guarantees the highest standards of quality and workmanship.

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In the SL 65 AMG power is transmitted by the AMG Speedshft 5-speed automatic transmission with steering-wheel gearshift controls and manual mode. In keeping with the tremendous levels of power and torque available, a number of measures have been taken to optimise key transmission components - including the adoption of newly developed clutch pack discs and modified shift and torque-converter-lockup logic. There are also special drive shafts, larger hub carriers and wheel bearings and special spring links at the rear axle.

In the reinforced rear axle differential case, fitted with a heat sink, is a mechanical, asymmetric, multiple-disc limited-slip differential with a lock factor of 40 percent under load. This ensures good traction, particularly with a very sporty driving style. With the modified acceleration skid control system, which is equipped with traction logic, the high engine output can always be optimally transmitted to the road.

Composite Brakes

The SL 65 AMG is fitted as standard with Active Body Control (ABC) and special AMG spring struts with firmer damping. The driver can select an even sportier mode at the touch of a button, reducing pitch and roll still further. Fully reworked dynamic handling control systems such as ABS, Brake Assist, ASR and ESP® (Electronic Stability Program) complete the enhanced chassis setup. In order to cope with the high power output, there is a newly developed, high-performance, composite brake system with 390 x 36 mm brake discs at the front and 360 x 26 mm brake discs at the rear.

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Where looks are concerned, the new AMG V12 flagship model has several key features which set it apart from other SL-Class models. The redesigned front apron, optimised in the wind tunnel, has a striking contour which is based on the look of the Formula 1 Safety Car. The significantly larger air intakes ensure a reliable supply of fresh air for water, engine oil and charge-air cooling; like the rear apron and side skirts, it is part of the powerful AMG bodystyling package, which blends harmoniously with the award-winning design of the Mercedes Roadster. The independent, AMG-specific radiator grille is another feature which sets this model apart.

Contact with the road is taken care of by multi-piece, 19-inch AMG twin-spoke wheels, painted in titanium grey, with size 255/35 R 19 tyres at the front and size 285/30 R 19 tyres at the rear. The chromed V12 Biturbo lettering on the front wings indicates the exceptional dynamic qualities of this vehicle, while highlights at the rear include the dark-tinted tail lights and the AMG sports exhaust with its two oval, chromed twin tail-pipes. The new composition of the typical AMG, V12 sound provides a special acoustic charm, particularly when driving with the vario-roof open.

Inside, the high-quality trim in fine wood or aluminium and the leather appointments, available in three colours, exude an exclusive flair. Electrically adjustable AMG sports seats with AMG-specific seat fluting and perforation pattern, optimised lateral support, multicontour function, memory and seat heating make every journey in the SL 65 AMG more delightful. Further standard equipment in the SL 65 AMG includes the AMG instrument cluster with its Alcantara surround, 360-km/h scale and V12 Biturbo lettering, the AMG ergonomic sports steering wheel with gearshift buttons, the door sill panels in etched and polished aluminium with the AMG logo, the bi-xenon headlamps, COMAND with DVD technology, the CD changer and the sound system.

The new SL 65 AMG will make its debut at Mercedes-Benz sales and service outlets and dealerships from June 2004.

Specifications
Year: 2004
Make: Mercedes-Benz
Model: SL 65 AMG

Engine & Transmission
Position: Not Available
Configuration: Twin Turbo, Twin Spark V12
Valvetrain: DOHC, 3 Valves per Cyl
Displacemen: 5513 cc / 336.4 cu in
Power: 456.4 kw / 612 bhp @ Not Available rpm
Torque: 1000 nm / 737.6 ft lbs @ 2000-4000 rpm
Bore: 82 mm / 3.23 in
Stroke: 87 mm / 3.43 in
Redline: 6050
HP / Liter: 111.01 bhp per litre
HP / Curb Weight: 313.85 bhp per weight
Gear Type: 5-Speed Automatic w/Speedshift
1st Gear Ratio: 3.59:1
2nd Gear Ratio: 2.19:1
3rd Gear Ratio: 1.41:1
4th Gear Ratio: 1.00:1
5th Gear Ratio: 0.83:1
6th Gear Ratio: Not Available
7th Gear Ratio: Not Available
Final Drive Ratio: Not Available

Body/Chassis
Drive Wheels: RWD
Curb Weight: 1950 kg / 4299 lbs

Performance
Drive Wheels: RWD
Curb Weight: 1950 kg / 4299 lbs
0 - 60 mph: Not Available
0 - 100 mph: 4.1 seconds
EPA City/Hwy: Not Available
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wow, that's it, just wow!!!
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I love that car, but those rims look like ass to me.
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i think i wet my pants
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4500-4700lbs with passengers :thumbsdn:
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Originally posted by Zapata
4500-4700lbs with passengers :thumbsdn:
Yeah, the weight does make it kinda a boat...But, with all that power and torque (observe the 0-100 time), the weight is kinda moot, no?
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0-100 MPH in 4.1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

are you sure thats not suppossed to be KMPH???
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Oops...I think that IS a misprint...it has to be km/h...
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i love those rims, the car is
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the car is just amazing but why not manual, then it would be insane, but that is sickly fast and pimp for an auto.
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some will still complain about poor gas mileage,,, so I would have to give it back and never drive it,,, someone please give one to me I promise I'll give it back,,
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I don't mind the weight if the car doesn't feel like it's 5000lbs.

As far as the manual tranny goes, the seven-speed auto is a better choice.
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Originally posted by Yumchah
Yeah, the weight does make it kinda a boat...But, with all that power and torque (observe the 0-100 time), the weight is kinda moot, no?

nah i guess not. They are built like tanks so i'd feel pretty safe. Just an observation
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Originally posted by Jaydef03
0-100 MPH in 4.1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

are you sure thats not suppossed to be KMPH???

Must've been a typo for him....cuz in the article, it said "0-100 Km/h in 4.3s" which is 0-60 in 4.3s....so he must've put the 4.1 in the wrong place? o.O
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Originally posted by charliemike
I don't mind the weight if the car doesn't feel like it's 5000lbs.

As far as the manual tranny goes, the seven-speed auto is a better choice.

The 7-speed isn't built to handle that much power. Which is why the SL-R comes with a beefed up five speed.
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Originally posted by Minch00
The 7-speed isn't built to handle that much power. Which is why the SL-R comes with a beefed up five speed.
That's exactly what I heard too... the SLR engineers were actually thinking of putting the trusty old 4 speed auto from the S600 in there but I guess someone with a brain bitchslapped em... not enough, though. 5 speed auto on a "supercar" is pathetic.
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Originally posted by DanMan1464
Must've been a typo for him....cuz in the article, it said "0-100 Km/h in 4.3s" which is 0-60 in 4.3s....so he must've put the 4.1 in the wrong place? o.O
Details details!
'K, we'll just settle that this car goes faster than most things on four wheels on the road, yah?
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Originally posted by Yumchah
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'K, we'll just settle that this car goes faster than most things on four wheels on the road, yah?
Well that wa sjust my theory of why it said 0-100 in 4.1....

it seems logical statistically. Just say that it does 0-60 in 4.3!

I think it said it did 0-200 kmH in 12.x seconds, which is 0-120 mph?
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Mind you that we might be seeing the SL 69 in the next few years. Imagine how insane that would be.
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i love it, but i cant get past that vent on the front fender in front of the front wheel. you see that? it just looks sooooo awkward.
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Originally posted by goldmemberer
5 speed auto on a "supercar" is pathetic.
at least it can handle power unlike honda's 5 speed auto
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you guys can bitch all you want about it being an auto - it's still one of the most pimpest vehicles out there
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It's awesome. Period.
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Originally posted by goldmemberer
5 speed auto on a "supercar" is pathetic.
youre right, 600hp? 0-60 in sub 4.5? def not a supercar.
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the whole auto hating thing is so played.
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Originally posted by ItalianStallion
youre right, 600hp? 0-60 in sub 4.5? def not a supercar.
Aw, c'mon dude...you see, for the real discerning car snob, a real supercar must have 2000HP and can do 0-60 in 0.02 s. A nine-speed manual gearbox...And and! It must have 99 inch rims...with extra bling. Yup. And, it must be so low that not even bacteria can crawl between the undercarriage of the car and the pavement...THAT, is what is a supercar...DUH. Geez, you'd think you know a thing or two...
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And oh yeah, I don't like this SL65 cuz it ain't expensive enough. Geez, the MSRP just bugs me...the way DaimlerChrysler came up with that number. So, this car sucks.
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Originally posted by Infamous425
at least it can handle power unlike honda's 5 speed auto
You're comparing a 35k car to a 135k car. But admittedly, Honda did fuck up pretty bad.

Originally posted by ItalianStallion
youre right, 600hp? 0-60 in sub 4.5? def not a supercar.
I'm not saying it's not a supercar, I'm just saying that if you're going to make it auto, atleast give it 6 speeds or so? I'm not disputing the fact that this car is fucking pimp as they come, I love this shit.
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The latest Car and Driver TV Show I saw on Speed had a test of the CL600. I believe Mercedes gives a 0-60 in the high 4s. C&D tested it for 3.6 for the 60mph and 11.9 secs for the 1/4 mile !!!

That's faster than the GT2 and the Viper they said. And that's an auto tranny.

I was blown away! Both by how Mercedes under-claims its cars' acceleration (traditionally, but never that much), but also by how quick that thing is.

Now it makes sense. Because when I see Mercedes claim acceleration numbers for some of its AMG and other powerful cars, I cant figure out how much power does it take to get into the 3s. Well, they're just claiming.

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That's just awesome... absolutely incredible. The 600 in the 3's... I love that car.
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The latest Car and Driver TV Show I saw on Speed had a test of the CL600. I believe Mercedes gives a 0-60 in the high 4s. C&D tested it for 3.6 for the 60mph and 11.9 secs for the 1/4 mile !!!

That's faster than the GT2 and the Viper they said. And that's an auto tranny.

I was blown away! Both by how Mercedes under-claims its cars' acceleration (traditionally, but never that much), but also by how quick that thing is.

Now it makes sense. Because when I see Mercedes claim acceleration numbers for some of its AMG and other powerful cars, I cant figure out how much power does it take to get into the 3s. Well, they're just claiming.


And noobs, the reason they have to use the 5-speed auto is it's the tranny that can handle the torque..... The 7 speed can't take it.
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I'd love to see real life acceleration numbers for the SL65........

Mercedes rates the 600 at 4.5............and it gets 3.6

Mercedes rates the 65 at 4.2..............and it gets ???
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my friend's modded SL600, has somewhere around 600hp.
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Originally Posted by Minch00
I'd love to see real life acceleration numbers for the SL65........

Mercedes rates the 600 at 4.5............and it gets 3.6

Mercedes rates the 65 at 4.2..............and it gets ???
the Germans always underrate their cars performance numbers. I would say the SL65 will do 60 in about 3.5-3.6, and the 1/4 in 11.4-11.5 @ the low-mid 120's. Kinda insane really. It's hard to get below the ~3.5 second 0-60 mark, regardless of how much power you have, it's almost like that is the general limit of traction or something for getting to 60mph... you can have 2000hp, it doesn't mean you are going to hit 60 mph in 2 seconds, it becomes a question of getting the power to the ground.

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the Germans always underrate their cars performance numbers. I would say the SL65 will do 60 in about 3.5-3.6, and the 1/4 in 11.4-11.5 @ the low-mid 120's. Kinda insane really. It's hard to get below the ~3.5 second 0-60 mark, regardless of how much power you have, it's almost like that is the general limit of traction or something for getting to 60mph... you can have 2000hp, it doesn't mean you are going to hit 60 mph in 2 seconds, it becomes a question of getting the power to the ground.

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The latest Car and Driver TV Show I saw on Speed had a test of the CL600. I believe Mercedes gives a 0-60 in the high 4s. C&D tested it for 3.6 for the 60mph and 11.9 secs for the 1/4 mile !!!....
I dunno why but that 11.9 time has been real hush-hush in general... I noticed it earlier in the year while perusing the Road Test Review at the back of a C&D, not sure what date that test was done but I think it was early this year.
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