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Old 02-10-2005, 04:54 PM
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I think the S65 will be governed to 155MPH like all the other AMG's. I remember reading somewhere that the CL65 without the governer can get close to 200MPH.
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
I think the S65 will be governed to 155MPH like all the other AMG's. I remember reading somewhere that the CL65 without the governer can get close to 200MPH.
I know, I just threw out a number...

these cars could threaten 200 mph. the only things that will limit them are drag and, well, speed limiters.
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Originally Posted by srika
I know, I just threw out a number...

these cars could threaten 200 mph. the only things that will limit them are drag and, well, speed limiters.
Yeah, imagine this car on the Autobahn without a governer, you could cruise comfortably with five people in the car at ~190MPH all day.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004

I hate it when companies produce such amazing cars and then sell them to boneheads who crash them..:
MB doesn't care who buys their cars as long as someone buys them........if you can afford a $180k car, you can afford to crash it.
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
...if you can afford a $180k car, you can afford to crash it.
so true....

so sad, but so true....
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BREAKING NEWS! Hot! New S-class spyshots in... - - Source: www.autospies.com


Codenamed W221, these 2006 S Class test cars undergoing cold weather testing have just a smidgen of camouflage hiding a handful of details.

The seventh-generation S Class measures in larger than today’s version, and will offer a new lineup of engines including V6 and V8 offerings, and an all-new 3.0-liter V6 diesel with over 230-horsepower, as well as a 4.0-liter V8 diesel. Other options will likely include a 6.3-liter V8 with 600-horsepower and a 6.5-liter twin-turbo V12.

Bells and whistles, as expected, will likely include pedestrian air bags which would eject from the grille if it senses such an impact, as well as an advanced crash avoidance system and an estimated sixteen airbags!

You can get a good idea as to the new S Class styling here, or you can wait until next fall for its official introduction, probably at the Frankfurt Motor Show.

Brenda Priddy & Company


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If the V8 will make 600HP, I am guessing the V12 will make at least 650HP. But with a ton more torque than the V8 since now AMG is switching to the NA solution for some of their engines.

Mercedes will not back down from the HP wars. They want to be at the top like Nissan/Infiniti in their respective class.
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The outputs on some of these engines are amazing. But Benz won't win all of the hp wars... the new 3.5L's making around 272 in the C and E, while Infiniti's coming with atleast 280hp.
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mercedes is my favorite car company that car has presence, and you can't even see what it is :lol:
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I think Mercedes has more 450+HP cars then any other car company out there.
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Originally Posted by titan
The outputs on some of these engines are amazing. But Benz won't win all of the hp wars... the new 3.5L's making around 272 in the C and E, while Infiniti's coming with atleast 280hp.
Yea...but they also make the 5.5 with 360+. Granted, it's much more $$$, but once they up the hp in the E55, they will lead each class they are in.
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hahaha pedestrian airbags

"Bells and whistles, as expected, will likely include pedestrian air bags which would eject from the grille if it senses such an impact"

found that funny for some reason
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Yea...but they also make the 5.5 with 360+. Granted, it's much more $$$, but once they up the hp in the E55, they will lead each class they are in.
True dat. But Infiniti doesn't have a car to compete with the E55.
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Originally Posted by titan
True dat. But Infiniti doesn't have a car to compete with the E55.
I am anxiously waiting to see how the new M5 does against it. MB will up the E55's hp soon from what I have read/heard because they dont want the M5 to have 30hp more than it. We might be seeing a 600hp STOCK M5 or E55 sooner than we thought.
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This months Car and Driver already mention the S65 coming for 2005 on the current platform.
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Dammnn, I like the looks of it. The Maybach rear isn't as bad as I thought it'd be. But they could have done more with the tailamps for sure. The quad pipes and wheels look great. I even like the strong creases over the front and rear fenders. Gives off a very muscular feel. I look forward to seeing the interior.
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Originally Posted by cob3683
I am anxiously waiting to see how the new M5 does against it. MB will up the E55's hp soon from what I have read/heard because they dont want the M5 to have 30hp more than it. We might be seeing a 600hp STOCK M5 or E55 sooner than we thought.
Wonder if Audi has any plans w/ the RS6/8
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I've never liked the Maybach rear. And it still doesn't look good on the S class.
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Looks nice. They really need to hit a home run with this car. MB already has the engines and the designs right, they just need to work on their reliability some more.
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Not a big fan of the rear end
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i dont like it too much. it looks kinda cheap IMO, or mb its just that ugly ass color
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A little too Maybach. This will result in a watering down of the status of the Maybach name.
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I like the current S-Class's look over this one. We've seen hints of that for a while, and I was just hoping it wasn't true. But at this point, it most likely is.
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Would be nice, not so sure on the paint on the rear lights instead of the tinted clear lense.
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Previous Gen. Mercedes S-Class News **Last one rolled off assembly line (page 2)**



The source of this is not that reliable so I wont quote it, but there are rumors that Mercedes will offer an S350 version of its S-class lineup with the 3.7 liter V6 from the ML350 (that's a different engine from the one used in the SLK350) for an MSRP of about $65,600.

Rumored specs are:

Power: 241 hp @ 5,800 rpm
Torque: 258 lb-ft @ 3,000 to 4,500 rpm
Acceleration: 0 - 60 mph in 7.6 seconds
Fuel economy EPA estimate: 17 mpg
Highway estimate: 25 mpg

Needless to say, Mercedes has been offering versions of its S Class in Europe with many smaller engines, the USA market does not "receive", but this is a peculiar move from the company in my opinion, one that I believe is closely related to the company's latest financial performance.
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http://www.mbusa.com/brand/models/S350V.jsp
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As an FYI, the smallest-engined S Class that I know of offered in Europe is the S280 equipped with a 2.8 liter V6 making 204HP. 0-62mph in 9.7 seconds.
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Originally Posted by TypeSAddict

Ha! I guess it's no rumor then.

No one reliable has reported this...or it happened a while ago and I have missed it.

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Ha! I guess it's no rumor then.

No one reliable has reported this...or it happened a while ago and I have missed it.

Thanks.

Sure. I don't know if the source you cited above discussed the S350 before or after its NA release, but if it was before he was spot on in the details
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Meh, an S class with an NA V6.

I would've rather liked to see an S350 with a turbo diesel making 290+HP and 400+lb-ft of torque that could get around 30MPG.

BTW, I think the 0-60 in 7.6s for the S350 is optimistic since that's what the S430 with 275HP V8 runs.
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
Meh, an S class with an NA V6.

I would've rather liked to see an S350 with a turbo diesel making 290+HP and 400+lb-ft of torque that could get around 30MPG.

BTW, I think the 0-60 in 7.6s for the S350 is optimistic since that's what the S430 with 275HP V8 runs.
You mean the S320CDI which produces more torque than even the S500 at a lower RPM range and is available in many countries [such as New Zealand] and is available to see online at: http://www.liveupdater.com/mbnz/pass...s/s-320cdi.asp ?Yeah... why would Americans want that kinda thing?

Is that really what DCX is thinking?
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
Meh, an S class with an NA V6.

BTW, I think the 0-60 in 7.6s for the S350 is optimistic since that's what the S430 with 275HP V8 runs.
and

always thought it was sad those people that just want to get the symbol on the hood and buy the absolute cheapest mercedes or bimmer even though they could get something much better at the same price.


like the 525's i keep seeing. You just paid 45k for a 184 hp car. well done
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Originally Posted by 95gt
You just paid 45k for a 184 hp car
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Originally Posted by goldmemberer
You mean the S320CDI which produces more torque than even the S500 at a lower RPM range and is available in many countries [such as New Zealand] and is available to see online at: http://www.liveupdater.com/mbnz/pass...s/s-320cdi.asp ?Yeah... why would Americans want that kinda thing?

Is that really what DCX is thinking?
Yea, something like the euro S320 CDI, but with a bigger diesel engine for the US.

BTW, I just priced out a fully loaded S350 on the MB site and it came out to a little over $82K! That's a lot of money for a V6, for that kinda cash I'd rather get a nicely equipped Audi A8L, Jaguar XJR, or the new BMW 750i.
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Pretty smart move IMO. Especially when they drop the 430 and raise the 350's output up to 270 like the others. Now they are able to get people into an S class cheaper. If the 430's sold well (see tons of them in Atlanta and Orlando), a V6 with better gas mileage and the same hp for $10,000 less will sell pretty damn well.
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Originally Posted by cob3683
a V6 with better gas mileage and the same hp for $10,000 less will sell pretty damn well.
...and it can slaughter the "S-class" image in a matter of minutes too.
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Originally Posted by goldmemberer
...and it can slaughter the "S-class" image in a matter of minutes too.
As true is that may be it paints a much more accurate picture of Mercedes in Europe. If you've ever been to europe it's quite rare that you see big engined cars and most of the s-classes I've seen have been the CDI versions or the v6 models. I think it's a good move because now they can get more money from people who might forgo buying a e500 and jump to a S350 just for status. Keep in mind also that in the previous body style they sold the S-Class with a V6 in the S320.
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always thought it was sad those people that just want to get the symbol on the hood and buy the absolute cheapest mercedes or bimmer even though they could get something much better at the same price.


like the 525's i keep seeing. You just paid 45k for a 184 hp car. well done
100% I laugh to myself when I see a 525i on the road. It's a joke for the price, IMO.
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
BTW, I think the 0-60 in 7.6s for the S350 is optimistic since that's what the S430 with 275HP V8 runs.
I dont know about that. The S430 felt as strong as my CLS when I drove it around town. I think the S350's acceleration is spot on.


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