Mercedes-Benz: R-Class news
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When this thing was conceived, DaimlerChrysler said a few times that this would not be a Mercedes' version of Pacifica, although it was to be designed on the same platform.
All I see in these pictures is a Mercedes' version of Pacifica. Which is not a bad thing at all. Pacifica is a great car.
All I see in these pictures is a Mercedes' version of Pacifica. Which is not a bad thing at all. Pacifica is a great car.
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This vehicle is another mini revolution type of vehicle. This is what the ML was when it was first unveiled in 1997. I have said this many times, but I see this type of vehicle within every manufacturer's lineup only a few years from now.
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
wish they would bring over the B-class instead. imagine a AMG B-class
B class, no go for US. The dollar's weakness against the Euro will have to have it priced at $30K in order for MB to make money. So B for now.
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I just saw the R-Class today at the NYIAS. Looks better in person.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Nice pics.
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new generation for soccer moms....
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Shifting Focus - - Source: Autoweek
After its six-passenger R-Class crossover suffered an identity crisis, Mercedes-Benz has bumped up sales by lowering the vehicle's price and targeting a different group of buyers.
Since launching the R-Class last fall in the midst of a slumping large-truck market, Mercedes-Benz has sold 10,029 units. It put $5,000 in dealer cash and a $499 monthly lease offer on the vehicle in December. The base price for the six-cylinder R350 model is $48,775, including shipping. The V-8-powered R500 price starts at $56,275, including shipping.
Mercedes also switched its marketing from empty nesters to families. Sales in February and March averaged 2,192 units a month - roughly what Mercedes needs to reach its U.S. sales target.
Mercedes-Benz USA executives won't say what sales targets are for the R-Class. But before launch, executives at headquarters in Stuttgart said the R-Class' global sales goal was 50,000 vehicles a year. Half of that was to be for the United States.
Ron Mueller, department manager for luxury sport utility and touring vehicles at Mercedes-Benz USA, says sales in the R-Class segment dropped between 10 and 20 percent last year, depending on which vehicles are included.
Mueller says R-Class competitors include the Cadillac SRX, Chrysler Pacifica, Infiniti FX, and Volvo and Audi wagons. Analysts say full-sized SUVs, including the Lincoln Navigator, Hummer H2 and Infiniti QX56, also compete with the R-Class.
Rivals await
Other competitors are waiting in the wings. BMW will enter the segment with a similar vehicle and a smaller people carrier in 2008. And Audi launches its Q7 SUV in June.
While others have called the R-Class a large station wagon or small minivan, the brand's executives say it is in a new segment. Mercedes recently completed an online poll of would-be-buyers of the R-Class who said the vehicle is "something different and something new," says Mueller.
And the R-Class is bringing in new buyers. About 75 percent are conquests, he says.
Families, not nesters
Mercedes says launch marketing pitched the vehicle at the wrong buyers - wealthy empty nesters. Mercedes positioned the R-Class as "a brand new way for six adults to travel."
Mercedes found that young families are shopping the R-Class, which raised questions about the vehicle's pricing.
The confusion over the target customers is surprising, considering Mercedes started marketing the crossover more than two years before launch. Last June, after an 18-month Internet campaign, Mercedes-Benz said it had a list of 98,000 potential buyers. The vehicle was first shown in concept form at the Detroit auto show in 2002.
So what went wrong?
Todd Turner, an analyst with Car Concepts Inc. in Thousand Oaks, Calif., says Mercedes got the entire concept wrong. The styling isn't sporty enough for Mercedes.
"In this market people expect Mercedes-Benz to be luxurious, sporty and just about anything that the R class isn't," Turner says. "It's too expensive for the styling statement that is has."
Response to GM
Mueller says that Mercedes-Benz pumped up incentives in December because segment sales were dropping. Also, General Motors was cutting sticker prices on its products, he says.
"We had to respond as quickly as we could," Mueller says. "You can't reprice the vehicle in the middle of the model year."
According to data from the Power Information Network, Mercedes-Benz outspent competitors on incentives in March with more than $9,000 on both the R350 and R500.
The average transaction price has fallen from $62,182 in October to $54,018 in December and $50,248 in March, according to Power data. Mueller says initial production was heavily skewed toward fully loaded models to make sure the plant in Alabama could manufacture a vehicle with all options.
Fletcher Jones, owner of the Fletcher Jones Management Group with Mercedes dealerships in Honolulu; Fremont and Newport, Calif.; Las Vegas; and Chicago, says Mercedes-Benz acted correctly to refocus marketing.
"The program has been good and aggressive," he says. "It's a tremendous family car that husbands aren't ashamed to drive."
Since launching the R-Class last fall in the midst of a slumping large-truck market, Mercedes-Benz has sold 10,029 units. It put $5,000 in dealer cash and a $499 monthly lease offer on the vehicle in December. The base price for the six-cylinder R350 model is $48,775, including shipping. The V-8-powered R500 price starts at $56,275, including shipping.
Mercedes also switched its marketing from empty nesters to families. Sales in February and March averaged 2,192 units a month - roughly what Mercedes needs to reach its U.S. sales target.
Mercedes-Benz USA executives won't say what sales targets are for the R-Class. But before launch, executives at headquarters in Stuttgart said the R-Class' global sales goal was 50,000 vehicles a year. Half of that was to be for the United States.
Ron Mueller, department manager for luxury sport utility and touring vehicles at Mercedes-Benz USA, says sales in the R-Class segment dropped between 10 and 20 percent last year, depending on which vehicles are included.
Mueller says R-Class competitors include the Cadillac SRX, Chrysler Pacifica, Infiniti FX, and Volvo and Audi wagons. Analysts say full-sized SUVs, including the Lincoln Navigator, Hummer H2 and Infiniti QX56, also compete with the R-Class.
Rivals await
Other competitors are waiting in the wings. BMW will enter the segment with a similar vehicle and a smaller people carrier in 2008. And Audi launches its Q7 SUV in June.
While others have called the R-Class a large station wagon or small minivan, the brand's executives say it is in a new segment. Mercedes recently completed an online poll of would-be-buyers of the R-Class who said the vehicle is "something different and something new," says Mueller.
And the R-Class is bringing in new buyers. About 75 percent are conquests, he says.
Families, not nesters
Mercedes says launch marketing pitched the vehicle at the wrong buyers - wealthy empty nesters. Mercedes positioned the R-Class as "a brand new way for six adults to travel."
Mercedes found that young families are shopping the R-Class, which raised questions about the vehicle's pricing.
The confusion over the target customers is surprising, considering Mercedes started marketing the crossover more than two years before launch. Last June, after an 18-month Internet campaign, Mercedes-Benz said it had a list of 98,000 potential buyers. The vehicle was first shown in concept form at the Detroit auto show in 2002.
So what went wrong?
Todd Turner, an analyst with Car Concepts Inc. in Thousand Oaks, Calif., says Mercedes got the entire concept wrong. The styling isn't sporty enough for Mercedes.
"In this market people expect Mercedes-Benz to be luxurious, sporty and just about anything that the R class isn't," Turner says. "It's too expensive for the styling statement that is has."
Response to GM
Mueller says that Mercedes-Benz pumped up incentives in December because segment sales were dropping. Also, General Motors was cutting sticker prices on its products, he says.
"We had to respond as quickly as we could," Mueller says. "You can't reprice the vehicle in the middle of the model year."
According to data from the Power Information Network, Mercedes-Benz outspent competitors on incentives in March with more than $9,000 on both the R350 and R500.
The average transaction price has fallen from $62,182 in October to $54,018 in December and $50,248 in March, according to Power data. Mueller says initial production was heavily skewed toward fully loaded models to make sure the plant in Alabama could manufacture a vehicle with all options.
Fletcher Jones, owner of the Fletcher Jones Management Group with Mercedes dealerships in Honolulu; Fremont and Newport, Calif.; Las Vegas; and Chicago, says Mercedes-Benz acted correctly to refocus marketing.
"The program has been good and aggressive," he says. "It's a tremendous family car that husbands aren't ashamed to drive."
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This is one confused car/van.
This is not a truck nor SUV. It's a people mover. For $60k people mover, I expected it to have more room. There are already perfect people mover outhere, it is called a minivan or large SUV with useable space.
R-class is too small.
This is not a truck nor SUV. It's a people mover. For $60k people mover, I expected it to have more room. There are already perfect people mover outhere, it is called a minivan or large SUV with useable space.
R-class is too small.
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Originally Posted by chiawei
This is one confused car/van.
This is not a truck nor SUV. It's a people mover. For $60k people mover, I expected it to have more room. There are already perfect people mover outhere, it is called a minivan or large SUV with useable space.
R-class is too small.
This is not a truck nor SUV. It's a people mover. For $60k people mover, I expected it to have more room. There are already perfect people mover outhere, it is called a minivan or large SUV with useable space.
R-class is too small.
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I'd rather by an ody.
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Originally Posted by jwong77
Well for that price, an Ody and a nice used S2000 for the weekends. ![Tongue](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
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an ody and a integra gs-r and use the extra money saved from not buying the s2000 to mod the gs-r
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From Leftlanenews...
The controversial Mercedes-Benz R-Class "was a lesson learned," said Daimler sales executive Klaus Maier. Daimler CEO Dieter Zetsche also weighed in on the situation, saying the minivan-SUV-crossover has "definitely not lived up" to expectations, according to trade publication Automotive News Europe.
Mercedes originally targeted sales of 25,000 per year in the United States, the report claims. Last year, R-Class sales were 18,000 and falling (a 28 percent decline).
Maier said it was a mistake to assume the unusual vehicle would appeal to a wide range of customers. Meanwhile, Zetsche said Daimler is in the early stages of thinking about a replacement for the R-Class. He said it could be a direct replacement, but there's also the distinct possibility of something totally different.
Recently, BMW CEO Norbert Reithofer announced his company had cancelled plans for a rival to the R-Class, saying the vehicle would "not fit BMW’s image."
Mercedes originally targeted sales of 25,000 per year in the United States, the report claims. Last year, R-Class sales were 18,000 and falling (a 28 percent decline).
Maier said it was a mistake to assume the unusual vehicle would appeal to a wide range of customers. Meanwhile, Zetsche said Daimler is in the early stages of thinking about a replacement for the R-Class. He said it could be a direct replacement, but there's also the distinct possibility of something totally different.
Recently, BMW CEO Norbert Reithofer announced his company had cancelled plans for a rival to the R-Class, saying the vehicle would "not fit BMW’s image."
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The folks who buy in this class are pretty well informed and rather buy an E350 wagon. Or if they really need something bigger they'll just get an ML350.
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_____ R-class driver
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...and the R Class goes the way of the Pacifica
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Recently, BMW CEO Norbert Reithofer announced his company had cancelled plans for a rival to the R-Class, saying the vehicle would "not fit BMW’s image."
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another story
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/15/m...was-a-failure/
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/15/m...was-a-failure/
Mercedes admits R-Class was a failure
Posted Jan 15th 2008 11:11AM by Noah Joseph
That the R-Class has not been the most successful vehicle in the history of Mercedes-Benz is no big secret, but after staunchly espousing its virtues for year, the automaker has finally admitted it. And as any recovering addict could tell you, admitting you have a problem is the first step on the long road to recovery.
Mercedes had pegged production of the crossover at its Vance, Alabama, plant at 50,000 units annually, with half of that staying in the United States. Last year, however, American dealerships sold only 18,000 units. According to Daimler CEO Dieter Zetsche, the R-Class "has definitely not lived up to our original plans."
Mercedes is planning a replacement for R-Class, and while it could retain the same big CUV/wagon set-up, the next R is more likely to take another format altogether. Mercedes biggest competitor at BMW, meanwhile, is evidently thinking otherwise with the X6 crossover it just unveiled yesterday.
[Source: Automotive News]
Posted Jan 15th 2008 11:11AM by Noah Joseph
That the R-Class has not been the most successful vehicle in the history of Mercedes-Benz is no big secret, but after staunchly espousing its virtues for year, the automaker has finally admitted it. And as any recovering addict could tell you, admitting you have a problem is the first step on the long road to recovery.
Mercedes had pegged production of the crossover at its Vance, Alabama, plant at 50,000 units annually, with half of that staying in the United States. Last year, however, American dealerships sold only 18,000 units. According to Daimler CEO Dieter Zetsche, the R-Class "has definitely not lived up to our original plans."
Mercedes is planning a replacement for R-Class, and while it could retain the same big CUV/wagon set-up, the next R is more likely to take another format altogether. Mercedes biggest competitor at BMW, meanwhile, is evidently thinking otherwise with the X6 crossover it just unveiled yesterday.
[Source: Automotive News]
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Mercedes is planning a replacement for R-Class, and while it could retain the same big CUV/wagon set-up, the next R is more likely to take another format altogether. Mercedes biggest competitor at BMW, meanwhile, is evidently thinking otherwise with the X6 crossover it just unveiled yesterday.
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I never saw the "R" Class as a CUV, more a wagon... but I guess it's gonna be a CUV now
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