Mercedes-Benz: CLK-Class news **2009 Spied (page 6)**
11-03-2003, 08:45 PM
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It says that MB will use their DTM experience to let AMG produce a road version of the CLK-GTR. The same 5.5 V8 that is used in DTM will output 610 ponnies. The aim is to essentially crush cars like the M3 CSL.
They also mention that the picture shows the first protoype being tested on the road... and they go on about describing the agressive look of the car (skirts, front lip, etc.). Production is expected to be very limited.
They also mention that the picture shows the first protoype being tested on the road... and they go on about describing the agressive look of the car (skirts, front lip, etc.). Production is expected to be very limited.
11-03-2003, 09:06 PM
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go against the m3 csl???? go right ahead because theres a lot more behind BMW than most people know that thing isnt gonna be able to compete with the newer models that BMW is gonna put out. Plus how is it supposed to be even in the same class as a CSL if it cost as much as it does???
11-04-2003, 03:30 AM
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go against the m3 csl???? go right ahead because theres a lot more behind BMW than most people know that thing isnt gonna be able to compete with the newer models that BMW is gonna put out. Plus how is it supposed to be even in the same class as a CSL if it cost as much as it does???
go against the m3 csl???? go right ahead because theres a lot more behind BMW than most people know that thing isnt gonna be able to compete with the newer models that BMW is gonna put out. Plus how is it supposed to be even in the same class as a CSL if it cost as much as it does???
This car is going to be way more expensive than the CSL
11-04-2003, 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by ApocalypseCL
go against the m3 csl???? go right ahead because theres a lot more behind BMW than most people know that thing isnt gonna be able to compete with the newer models that BMW is gonna put out. Plus how is it supposed to be even in the same class as a CSL if it cost as much as it does???
go against the m3 csl???? go right ahead because theres a lot more behind BMW than most people know that thing isnt gonna be able to compete with the newer models that BMW is gonna put out. Plus how is it supposed to be even in the same class as a CSL if it cost as much as it does???
1. Why cant this go against the CSL? What is it missing?
2. How much does it cost? Sounds like you know.
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11-04-2003, 06:17 AM
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Originally posted by charliemike
Exactly ... strip out a C32 (and add a manual tranny) and then perhaps we can talk.
This car is going to be way more expensive than the CSL
Exactly ... strip out a C32 (and add a manual tranny) and then perhaps we can talk.
This car is going to be way more expensive than the CSL
11-04-2003, 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by Black CL-S 4-Life
Damn! Benz is getting really serious about performance.
Damn! Benz is getting really serious about performance.
11-04-2003, 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by charliemike
Exactly ... strip out a C32 (and add a manual tranny) and then perhaps we can talk.
This car is going to be way more expensive than the CSL
Exactly ... strip out a C32 (and add a manual tranny) and then perhaps we can talk.
This car is going to be way more expensive than the CSL
The C is a 4 door sedan. The M3 is a 2 door coupe. The CLK is a 2 door coupe so it was chosen correctly.
over that.
11-04-2003, 07:46 AM
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Gav you seriously think that a 600 hp benz is gonna be the same price as a 360 hp CSL? if you think that then your a little off in the head. Its pretty obvious that its not gonna be anywhere close to the same price as a CSL......oh and tell benz to stop making automatics......makes the worst driver in the world look good.
11-04-2003, 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by ApocalypseCL
Gav you seriously think that a 600 hp benz is gonna be the same price as a 360 hp CSL?
Gav you seriously think that a 600 hp benz is gonna be the same price as a 360 hp CSL?
Originally posted by ApocalypseCL
if you think that then your a little off in the head.
if you think that then your a little off in the head.
Originally posted by ApocalypseCL
Its pretty obvious that its not gonna be anywhere close to the same price as a CSL......oh and tell benz to stop making automatics......makes the worst driver in the world look good.
Its pretty obvious that its not gonna be anywhere close to the same price as a CSL......oh and tell benz to stop making automatics......makes the worst driver in the world look good.
11-04-2003, 11:00 AM
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yea you prolly would cuz all it does is show your lack of driving skills! Almost anyone can hop into one of those and beat someone on the road......at least come up with F1 shifting like ferrari i mean that even harder IMO.
11-04-2003, 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by ApocalypseCL
chill gav dont take it that serious........sorry for the namecalling it was unecessary... but come on its no way gonna be the same pricing its so obvious.
chill gav dont take it that serious........sorry for the namecalling it was unecessary... but come on its no way gonna be the same pricing its so obvious.
We'll see about the price. Mercedes cars are traditionaly about 10% more expensive than BMW competitors, and that is what I think is going to happen in this case.
11-04-2003, 12:24 PM
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so what? since BMW has no intention of exporting the CSL to the US, who really cares? (cover story of European Car, December 2003 issue)
UNTOUCHABLE!
BMW'S M3 CSL: The best car in the world you can't buy in America
UNTOUCHABLE!
BMW'S M3 CSL: The best car in the world you can't buy in America
11-05-2003, 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by ApocalypseCL
hey moron the car is coming to the US....shows how much you know.
hey moron the car is coming to the US....shows how much you know.
11-05-2003, 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by ApocalypseCL
hey moron the car is coming to the US....shows how much you know.
hey moron the car is coming to the US....shows how much you know.
it would be sooo nice if you people who don't understand the English language would resist from making yourselves look so stupid each and every time you decide to comment on something that you obviously have no real information about. If you know something that contradicts what I posted, say as much, and identify your source. otherwise, go back to your playpen and try to resist engageing in the infantile name-calling route.
11-06-2003, 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by SiGGy
$ ?
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11-06-2003, 01:10 PM
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fm pg 54: "But, despite the fact that the CSL name was instrumental in establishing the BMW brand in the U.S. through the IMSA series in the '70s, gte M3 CSL won't make it over the Atlantic. The thousand of road test miles necessary to meet U.S. homologation laws can take anywhere between a year and 18 months to complete, and M simple didn't have the patience for that. "
Reported prices: English pounds - 58,455
Euro - 58,000
Reported prices: English pounds - 58,455
Euro - 58,000
11-09-2003, 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by ApocalypseCL
yea you prolly would cuz all it does is show your lack of driving skills! Almost anyone can hop into one of those and beat someone on the road......at least come up with F1 shifting like ferrari i mean that even harder IMO.
yea you prolly would cuz all it does is show your lack of driving skills! Almost anyone can hop into one of those and beat someone on the road......at least come up with F1 shifting like ferrari i mean that even harder IMO.
11-11-2003, 07:20 AM
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gosh you sound like such a female with "oh im not that good at it now but i can...i really can" awwwwwww how cute maybe you will be go get some more practice....but remember never give up you can do anything you want to do as long as your focused and determined....LOL
11-12-2003, 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by ApocalypseCL
but remember never give up you can do anything you want to do as long as your focused and determined....LOL
but remember never give up you can do anything you want to do as long as your focused and determined....LOL
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the front of the car looks really nice, but im not digging the wheel wells. Looks like a cheap wide body kit, i wish it flowed with the car a little more.
as far as not having a manual tranny, I would not mind it as much if it came with their new 7 speed and was very aggresively ratioed.
as far as not having a manual tranny, I would not mind it as much if it came with their new 7 speed and was very aggresively ratioed.
11-14-2003, 07:06 AM
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Yea well drive ur ass down here with a manual car and we'll drive it around my city one day. You'll be begging for either a new clutch or an auto by the time we get done.
Autos are just my preference. No need to get jealous when autos are kicking manual car's asses.
Autos are just my preference. No need to get jealous when autos are kicking manual car's asses.
11-14-2003, 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by proaudio22
Yea well drive ur ass down here with a manual car and we'll drive it around my city one day. You'll be begging for either a new clutch or an auto by the time we get done.
Autos are just my preference. No need to get jealous when autos are kicking manual car's asses.
Yea well drive ur ass down here with a manual car and we'll drive it around my city one day. You'll be begging for either a new clutch or an auto by the time we get done.
Autos are just my preference. No need to get jealous when autos are kicking manual car's asses.
i love my stick, but I hate it when there is bad bumper to bumper traffic. What I really want is a car with the traditional stick shift and a option for the slush box
11-15-2003, 01:16 PM
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man i live in the dc area if you want to talk about bumper to bumper traffic then come talk to me cuz you dont know what traffic is until you come here. thats a stupid excuse for not knowing how to drive a stick.
11-15-2003, 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by ApocalypseCL
man i live in the dc area if you want to talk about bumper to bumper traffic then come talk to me cuz you dont know what traffic is until you come here. thats a stupid excuse for not knowing how to drive a stick.
man i live in the dc area if you want to talk about bumper to bumper traffic then come talk to me cuz you dont know what traffic is until you come here. thats a stupid excuse for not knowing how to drive a stick.
Traffic is only part of it - it's also the fucked up road construction, idiot drivers, idiot roads, etc.
Also, when did I say I didn't know how to drive a stick? I just said I wasn't good at it. I know how to work the stick just fine.
I'm just not gonna race anyone. So you just keep your manual and keep trying to convince yourself that it somehow makes you a better driver b/c you have to take your hand off the wheel every once in a while. I don't race on a track man. I want a nice smooth ride everyday. I also want some kick ass power. Benz is dishing that up nicely these days. I don't want to have to shift all the time while driving. It's my personal preference, so STFU about it. Even the new SLR is an auto, so there must be something good about autos.
11-15-2003, 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by proaudio22
So you just keep your manual and keep trying to convince yourself that it somehow makes you a better driver b/c you have to take your hand off the wheel every once in a while.
So you just keep your manual and keep trying to convince yourself that it somehow makes you a better driver b/c you have to take your hand off the wheel every once in a while.
11-15-2003, 04:36 PM
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If you have ever seen a REAL race with the driver's feet camera, you will see that there is SOOOOOOOO much more to racing than just steering the car. Proper dowshifting and heel-toe is half the race
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Like I said, I'm not racing on a track. I know exactly what goes into it, I see the vids. I just want a nice ride, and nice power. He seems like half the guys that argue about manuals. ApocalypseCL just sounds like half the guys I hear agruing about manuals thinking that it makes them superior drivers, w/e. I'd really like to see some track number from the Benz w/ it's 7 speed auto vs. a BMW, etc w/ it's manual. The thing about it is we're talking about a production road automobile here, not a track car. Almost any track car is going to stomp a street car. So what?
I'll get back to ya if I start racing...
I'll get back to ya if I start racing...
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Originally posted by nandowong
i love my stick, but I hate it when there is bad bumper to bumper traffic. What I really want is a car with the traditional stick shift and a option for the slush box
i love my stick, but I hate it when there is bad bumper to bumper traffic. What I really want is a car with the traditional stick shift and a option for the slush box
