Beg to differ, this is a FWD base AWD system..1M is RWD.

Pretty sure the driving dynamics are vastly different. Also cylinders will always matter as power delivery will be dependent on that as well. On paper this car sounds nice but doesnt really impress me yet for the price.

 

Just about every car on your list has the options and packages to get into the $70Ks easily.

I agree with you that $48k for a CLA45 seems rather high. Most of the time that I spec out a C63 the way I want, it's nearly $80k. Perhaps MB knows something we don't about average transaction prices of cars like C63 and realizes that a $52k CLA45 isn't going to compete with the C63 because the C63 normally sells in the high $60Ks?

Where I see it cannibalizing sales is from the C350. A $52k CLA45 and a $52k C350 4Matic seems like a harder choice to make.

 

Forgot the TL : $39.6k

 

 

I think I would choose CLA in that case, except I don't know the repercussions of running 26 psi boost in a gas engine. Surely you would think there has to be some reliability concerns.

I understand the options adding up. I started the list because the test CLA in the video was $58k. I started to think, "Jesus, for $4k more, I could have an AWD RLX, and for $8k more a CTS-V." If big sedans rule out those two, an IS-F cleans that up nicely.

The R-Spec won't get over $50k.

True. I suppose it can fit in there with the 335i and 535i on the list. Those three would be the bottom feeders of the list though.

 

All things considered, the TL is no slouch... Although from that list, who can resist the 550 or the IS-F. Those V8's are insta-boners!

 

 

Haha not for me i love RWD thats why i no longer own my accord or rsx

 

all of the german cars are overpriced for the hp you get....try finding a german sedan with 300hp for under 50k with the options you want

 

Wouldn't the more accurate comparison to his comment and a video response be one of a GTR

 

The main thing the GT-R has always been criticized for is that its boring & uninvolving Robo-car persona. Go figure I like them.

That being said I really don't think you can match up a car in the $105/120K range with a TL even if the TL has a bigger back seat. But if its a who's got a bigger one Japan or Germany the Bugatti Veyron is a tarted up Volkswagen.

 

Not sure I fully agree. Audi is your closet bet. For $4k more than a loaded RLX I got A6 with Quattro, 310 HP and close to 400ft/lbs of torque and almost all the features of the RLX. The Germans will always be at least a little more. And I will take Audi's MMI any day over what the RLX has in the confusing dual screens.

 

I'm trying to figure out right now what that video has to do with anything.

 

I like the CLA.. prefer my TSX over it though. New German cars are pretty reliable IMO. I don't see the cla being any different.

 

Stephen! Stop moving these threads!

 

I too am not sure why this thread was moved to Cartalk.

The OP posted this thread as a comparison of the new CLA vs the "aging" 4G TL.

 

Anything looks better than the beak.

 

Merged with the other CLA discussion.

 

The original comment that prompted the vid was German cars are boring. IMHO running side by side with a $370K Ferrari 458 at 170mph in a $50K BMW 4 door sedan is anything but boring. Similar vid with Lamborghini's are common place at the airport runs. Your age suggests you are to young to play but if you ever do get the chance; see if your heart rate does not go up a bit over the resting boring rate as you pass through 165mph.

 

Why? Move it back to TL. Now the discussion is all over the place and we will have 3 pages of Car Talk vs TL.

 

Out of respect for Steven, I cannot do that as he moved this thread to Car Talk in the first place.

 

Ah, now I see.

 

Agreed. This thread is likely to turn into a flaming attack on the 4G TL and how "hideous" it is.

 

Yummy... any way to un-merge? I agree that this thread is now all over the place and the Car Talk discussion got completely overrun...

 

It could be arranged...if someone can tell me the post number of when this topic first started out in the TL forums.

I mean, it won't be perfect as I'll just select all the stuff from that and create a separate thread and move it back to the TL forum. But, it will at least separate the threads. Let me know, folks.

 

Just move everything back to 4G TL except this post:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...6&postcount=63

 

Posts 31-58 & 79-84 are from the other thread.

86-88, 90-91, 93-97 should be deleted as they are in regards to the move.

 

Aight...I'll get to it later, okay?

(unless another mod beats me to it)

 

CLA45 Configurator is up. $73k loaded

 

They should give the AMG version some fender flares.

The car looks "Weak", especially the rear quarter panel.

 

LOL, i would buy a well equipped M3 or M4 for that much.

 

Even if that's not likely to ever be sold that way, it's insane that a CLA45 can be priced that high.

Then again, I guess you can pay $110K+ for a Cayman S too.

 

A Cayman S, at least to me, seems more worth 100k than 70k for a compact MB sedan/coupe. I could see it being around 50-60 & maybe a Black Series in the 70's. Just seems like a lot for what it is.

 

i just built one... the way i wanted it, $58k.

I am not spending $58k + tax on a 4 banger.

 

59k for me, 61 with the sport seat. The 4cyl part doesn't bother me, just seems high for the class of car.

 

I don't think we are the right demographic for this car. It's more for clueless rich kids. I can see these kids buying this.

 

So if you want the AMG Sport package or whatever it is called for $2800. The 19" wheels are required but not included ($850)

WTF is that?
Why dont they just say that package cost $3650??

 

Because they can fool idiots maybe?

 

So I really bashed this thing earlier and called it a German Corolla.. I saw one in the parking lot a couple weeks ago. It looked much better than in pictures.

 

We can officially stop calling this an ILX competitor now?