McLaren: P1 News
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Well, if this were in Forza or Gran Turismo, you could also tune your car with mods. I'm assuming you'd have to attempt this in a stock Poopdick/P1/918...?
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Heh...Gordon Murray appears to pan the P1...or it's sour grapes.
From here: http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and...82168_20140221
From here: http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and...82168_20140221
McLaren's legendary F1 hyper car was recently superseded by the P1, a 673kW twin turbo V8 hybrid speed monster. But it doesn't follow the F1 in the spirit of driving purity, according to the earlier car's creator, Gordon Murray.
Murray designed and engineered the 1992 F1, but he is not excited by his former employer's new P1 hypercar. The heavy electric motors and computer assisted components don't excite his passion for driving, and nor does the relative weight of the P1 and its closest rivals – LaFerrari and Porsche 918.
Instead he's planning a lightweight supercar, focused entirely on the driving experience. "I've got one more supercar left in me" he said to Motor Sport Magazine. The new Supercar would be limited to similar numbers as the F1, and would follow the same ethos.
Murray designed and engineered the F1 as a driver focused, lightweight driving machine that held the title for fastest production Supercar until the Bugatti Veyron took over – more than a decade later. It had a central driving position, Formula 1 style, to maximise the driving experience. It also featured a manual transmission, and a 468kW, 6.1-litre BMW V12 engine with no turbos so as to not detract from the immediacy of power delivery.
More importantly, it featured one of the first uses of a carbon fibre tub, which multiplied passenger cell strength while reducing weight – a technology that was still new in Formula 1 back then, and is still used in today's supercars. This resulted in a car that weighs just 1062kg, achieving a top speed of 391km/h, making it the fastest production McLaren yet – with the new P1 being limited to 350km/h.
Before he left McLaren, Murray penned a strategy for the British supercar company, where the F1 would get replaced by a smaller, lighter naturally aspirated driving machine. However, technological advances, the need for more efficiency, safety and lower emissions lead to the creation of the P1 Hybrid hypercar instead.
Murray expressed excitement at the challenge of a light new supercar that carries the spirit of the F1. "The fun and new challenge to me would be looking at this new brace of supercars, one-and-half-to-two tonnes, full of electrics and stuff, would be to dump all that and build a driver's car again", he said.
But those who think Murray completely disdains electric power should know that among his his nine other car projects underway is a city car called MOTIV.e, powered by a 25kW, and 896Nm electric motor, capable of 105km/h. Plastic panels on a lightweight frame keeps mass down to 730kg, and allow for a 160km range. Yamaha intends to produce it, having shown the world a preview at the Tokyo Motor Show last November.
For those who are excited by Murray's motivations but can't afford a new supercar, a cheaper sports car designed by Murray is due in 2017. The lightweight car will have similar simplicity and lightweight ideals as its supercar sibling, and will be joined later by several other cars, including an offroader.
Murray designed and engineered the 1992 F1, but he is not excited by his former employer's new P1 hypercar. The heavy electric motors and computer assisted components don't excite his passion for driving, and nor does the relative weight of the P1 and its closest rivals – LaFerrari and Porsche 918.
Instead he's planning a lightweight supercar, focused entirely on the driving experience. "I've got one more supercar left in me" he said to Motor Sport Magazine. The new Supercar would be limited to similar numbers as the F1, and would follow the same ethos.
Murray designed and engineered the F1 as a driver focused, lightweight driving machine that held the title for fastest production Supercar until the Bugatti Veyron took over – more than a decade later. It had a central driving position, Formula 1 style, to maximise the driving experience. It also featured a manual transmission, and a 468kW, 6.1-litre BMW V12 engine with no turbos so as to not detract from the immediacy of power delivery.
More importantly, it featured one of the first uses of a carbon fibre tub, which multiplied passenger cell strength while reducing weight – a technology that was still new in Formula 1 back then, and is still used in today's supercars. This resulted in a car that weighs just 1062kg, achieving a top speed of 391km/h, making it the fastest production McLaren yet – with the new P1 being limited to 350km/h.
Before he left McLaren, Murray penned a strategy for the British supercar company, where the F1 would get replaced by a smaller, lighter naturally aspirated driving machine. However, technological advances, the need for more efficiency, safety and lower emissions lead to the creation of the P1 Hybrid hypercar instead.
Murray expressed excitement at the challenge of a light new supercar that carries the spirit of the F1. "The fun and new challenge to me would be looking at this new brace of supercars, one-and-half-to-two tonnes, full of electrics and stuff, would be to dump all that and build a driver's car again", he said.
But those who think Murray completely disdains electric power should know that among his his nine other car projects underway is a city car called MOTIV.e, powered by a 25kW, and 896Nm electric motor, capable of 105km/h. Plastic panels on a lightweight frame keeps mass down to 730kg, and allow for a 160km range. Yamaha intends to produce it, having shown the world a preview at the Tokyo Motor Show last November.
For those who are excited by Murray's motivations but can't afford a new supercar, a cheaper sports car designed by Murray is due in 2017. The lightweight car will have similar simplicity and lightweight ideals as its supercar sibling, and will be joined later by several other cars, including an offroader.
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The supplementary video to go with the video srika posted with Harris' test drive...
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Some nice images of the P1...
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Cool pic with the helo behind it.....
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Nice high-res pic...
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Hooliganning the P1 at its limit...
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oh man......... looks extra sexy in Azure Blue.........
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Who is the asshole in southern California who was lucky enough to get that awesome blue?
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This is a nice shade too...
Another "blue"...
Another "blue"...
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That Azure Blue is hideous.
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That silver , funky blue, no thanks.
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Jay Leno was the first US customer...
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^ Yeah, that was posted by srika in Car Talk.
Personally, I would've picked another color...but, since I'm a beggar, I'll take it in ducksh*t green if it was given to me.
Personally, I would've picked another color...but, since I'm a beggar, I'll take it in ducksh*t green if it was given to me.
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Probably a little of each.
The lightweight issue I agree with him, the hybrid power trains are heavy for the electric power that they add, though batteries are rechargeable. IIRC 2 gallons of gas (12 pounds) equals approx. 600-800 lb. of LiOn batteries in energy.
FWIW, Murray is also critical of the SLR and he was chief of engineering at McLaren cars where the chassis was designed and built. He wanted the SLR to be mid-engined and weight ~3000lb. Although he got his way with design on the F1, that was not the case on the SLR.
I saw the P1 a month ago and it does not photo well (or I suck at car pics), it's lines and shape are more elegant to see in person.
The lightweight issue I agree with him, the hybrid power trains are heavy for the electric power that they add, though batteries are rechargeable. IIRC 2 gallons of gas (12 pounds) equals approx. 600-800 lb. of LiOn batteries in energy.
FWIW, Murray is also critical of the SLR and he was chief of engineering at McLaren cars where the chassis was designed and built. He wanted the SLR to be mid-engined and weight ~3000lb. Although he got his way with design on the F1, that was not the case on the SLR.
I saw the P1 a month ago and it does not photo well (or I suck at car pics), it's lines and shape are more elegant to see in person.
Heh...Gordon Murray appears to pan the P1...or it's sour grapes.
From here: http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and...82168_20140221
From here: http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and...82168_20140221
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Yellow P1 Not a flattering color for it.
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from a cars/coffee in Irvine today
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Love it in silver too.
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It looks lovely in any color. Except for Jay Leno's yellow
That's an interesting VIN. I couldn't for the life of me figure out what country "S" was from until I looked lower on the plate.
That's an interesting VIN. I couldn't for the life of me figure out what country "S" was from until I looked lower on the plate.
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Track Version in Consideration
From here: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/sc...ion-considered
McLaren is set to launch a special 'Track' version of its P1 hypercar.
Autocar understands the Woking firm has written to all 375 owners and prospective owners of the P1 road car asking for expressions of interest in an even more focused, track-only version of the P1, after several customers asked McLaren if it would consider making such a model.
The project is now on the drawing board in the early stages at McLaren, with an production target set in the low double digits to make it viable.
Only P1 road car owners will be invited to purchase a P1 Track, as the model is known internally.
The model is set to have even more extreme bodywork to differentiate it from a 'standard' P1, alongside suspension upgrades that will see the P1 permanently 'locked' in its lowest setting, and more power and torque liberated from the petrol-electric hybrid drivetrain.
McLaren is likely to keep the P1 Tracks on behalf of the owners and arrange a series of track days and events throughout the year where the cars can run.
The scheme will therefore similar to the one employed by McLaren’s rival Ferrari and its XX models.
Autocar understands the Woking firm has written to all 375 owners and prospective owners of the P1 road car asking for expressions of interest in an even more focused, track-only version of the P1, after several customers asked McLaren if it would consider making such a model.
The project is now on the drawing board in the early stages at McLaren, with an production target set in the low double digits to make it viable.
Only P1 road car owners will be invited to purchase a P1 Track, as the model is known internally.
The model is set to have even more extreme bodywork to differentiate it from a 'standard' P1, alongside suspension upgrades that will see the P1 permanently 'locked' in its lowest setting, and more power and torque liberated from the petrol-electric hybrid drivetrain.
McLaren is likely to keep the P1 Tracks on behalf of the owners and arrange a series of track days and events throughout the year where the cars can run.
The scheme will therefore similar to the one employed by McLaren’s rival Ferrari and its XX models.
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Leno finally reviews his own car...
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it doesn't appear we covered this -