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00TL-P3.2 04-03-2019 12:54 PM

McLaren: GT/GTS News
 
https://www.motor1.com/news/316628/m...-spied-teased/



Forget the track, this is a McLaren for long distance trips on the road.

First teased in early March, McLaren's upcoming grand tourer hits the road again in new images that whet the appetites of wealthy potential buyers. The company promises to start ripping off the camouflage on April 30. The concept of a more comfortable McLaren model that specializes in eating up miles at high speeds continues to be very intriguing.

The model's actual name still isn't clear, and the brand simply refers to it as the McLaren of Grand Tourers. According to the company, the example in these photos shows off the vehicle's final shape, and the body no longer wears the fake body panels from the coupe in the previous teaser shot (below).

The new shots reveal a more curvaceous rear deck. There are vents at the top of the fenders. Skinny LED taillights cut through an opening in the tail. A pair of big exhausts with chrome tips grab attention because of their visual contrast with the rest of the design.

In front, the design is fairly simple with a low nose and pointy headlights. An expansive, wraparound windshield looks like it would offer excellent forward visibility.Currently, McLaren only confirms that the grand tourer gets power from a twin-turbo V8. "It’s a car that has been designed for distance and one that will also provide the comfort and space expected of a Grand Tourer. But with a level of agility never experienced before in this segment," McLaren CEO Mike Flewitt said when originally announcing the model.

The next step in the development is a 1,000-mile (1,609-kilometer) trip from McLaren's development center near Barcelona, Spain, to the automaker's headquarters in Woking, England. To check the vehicle's level of comfort, the two test drivers plan to take the journey in a single stint while carrying all of their luggage.

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Costco 04-03-2019 02:58 PM

Doesn't look like it's a 2+2. If it is, it must be a pain in the ass to get in the backseat. Still a pretty cool ride, still in an out-of-reach echelon :sad:

00TL-P3.2 05-15-2019 09:58 AM

https://jalopnik.com/the-612-hp-2020...cla-1834777181


A piece of criticism that I have not heard typically levied at modern McLarens is that they are uncomfortable. Indeed, the 720S and the 570S/570GT have all been praised as being quite comfortable. Either way, the 2020 McLaren GT is here now, and boasts even more comfort, practicality and usability than the others.

The GT is another addition to the McLaren lineup from the company’s Track25 business plan, where it has said that it will deliver 18 new cars or derivatives by the conclusion of 2025.

The GT, as its name suggests, is meant to be the grand touring McLaren, according to the press release. It’s the one that you can apparently take on long trips and also not have your pelvis reduced to dust after hours and hours of harsh ride quality.

Plus—storage space! The front-hinged tailgate can store 14.8 cubic feet of luggage, though it looks like a long and narrow 14.8 cubic feet from the photos. Combined with the front trunk, which can hold 5.3 cubic feet of stuff, the GT has a total of 20.1 cubic feet of storage. By comparison, a Porsche 911 allegedly has 5.1 cubic feet of volume in its front trunk and a Toyota Corolla sedan has 13.1 cubic feet of spacein its trunk.

Like all the other McLaren cars, the GT also uses a carbon fiber monocoque chassis. Here, it’s called the MonoCell II-T, with the “T” meaning “touring.” All that means is that McLaren redesigned the upper structure in the back of the car to accommodate the increased luggage space. You also get the fancy-pants dihedral, up-swinging doors and a low sill, so ingress and egress shouldn’t be a huge problem.

The engine is interesting. Instead of the 3.8-liter twin-turbo motors found in the 570 models, the GT uses a 4.0-liter twin-turbo V8 called the M840TE. It’s good for a claimed 612 brake horsepower and 465 lb-ft of torque and will supposedly help the car hit zero to 60 mph in 3.1 seconds and achieve a top speed of 203 mph. We’ve reached out to McLaren and asked how this engine is different from the 4.0-liter M840T found in the 720S.

Ride quality is where apparently the new car will shine. McLaren says the GT uses some kind of “Optimal Control Theory software algorithm,” where sensors alert the suspension about things that are about to happen in the road and then the suspension will react accordingly “in just two milliseconds.” This is probably something I’d need to test out in real life to see.

And the steering is electro-hydraulically assisted, which is cool.

Looking at the GT, I’m kind of happy that it ditches the big grin from the 650 and 570 models. It’s sleeker now, with almost Ferrari F430-ish looks. This is not a bad thing, I loved the look of that car.

The GT is available to order now. It starts at $210,000 and deliveries will happen at the end of this year.


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00TL-P3.2 05-15-2019 09:59 AM

@Yumcha
Thread title update, please?

McLaren: GT News

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knight rider 05-16-2019 08:34 PM

I'll have to admit, I'm not very big on McLarens. They are extremely capable vehicles that (IMO) lack the exotic design language of their segment competitors. The GT is no different, unfortunately. When I think, "expensive GT" I think Aston Martin; Vanquish or DBS Superleggera to be exact. These are the GTs by which all GT design should be measured. Some come close, real close (Ferrari 599 GTB, Ferrari F12 Berlinetta). The McLaren GT is not close. It looks like what it is, a supercar that's trying to be a GT.

The air ducts are too large. They scream, "I'm a supercar". The wheels have too many spokes. I believe McLaren used this wheel design to emote "luxurious GT". I get it. There's only one problem though. The wheel design doesn't match the design of the car. I bet if McLaren put 5 spoke wheels on the GT it would look even more like a supercar. And then there is the choice of launch color. Gold!? Again, I think this was a play on "this is a GT". Black, red, blue, or even white may have been too sporty. Silver was already taken.

I do like the design of the rear of the car though, as well as the interior. I really like how they angled the speakers towards the cabin occupants. I'm sure that makes a difference in the listening experience. I'm sure that there is a market for this McLaren. I'm just a non-wealthy car enthusiast that will probably never get a chance to decide if I want an Aston Martin or a McLaren GT. Perhaps I'm missing the point completely. However, I think McLaren missed the mark a bit on this one.

SamDoe1 05-17-2019 09:40 AM

This post is contrary to the one above. A lot of the things mentioned (wheels, color, etc) are all able to be changed when you order a car like this.

Take my money, this thing is awesome. The unfortunate part is that no one will put miles on this "GT car" because of the incredibly high cost of maintaining it as the miles rack up not to mention the reliability.

Last thought is that this kinda looks like a modern Ferrari 430...

iforyou 05-18-2019 04:22 PM

Are McLaren's that unreliable? This looks pretty nice and that cargo room looks useful! I read somewhere it has 14cu.ft of cargo space. That's on par with quite a lot of sedans.

00TL-P3.2 05-20-2019 08:09 AM

:shrug:
It's a supercar at heart, it's going to be 'less' reliable/more maintenance prone than something like a big MB/BMW GT.
No direct knowledge, but I'd imagine it's a bit more to maintain than even some higher tier GTs (Continental/Ghost/DB11)?

SamDoe1 05-20-2019 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by iforyou (Post 16427927)
Are McLaren's that unreliable? This looks pretty nice and that cargo room looks useful! I read somewhere it has 14cu.ft of cargo space. That's on par with quite a lot of sedans.

They are all hand built one off designs so yes. All of the other GT's around use some semblance of a high production volume vehicles.

Example:
Bentley - VW/Audi parts
Rolls - BMW parts
Aston - Mercedes parts
Mercedes - Mercedes parts

If I was going to buy a GT car today for around $200k it would be an AMG GT-S or GT63S all day every day.

ttribe 05-20-2019 03:47 PM

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iforyou 05-22-2019 01:15 AM

Man for $200k u can get a amg gt r for $160k and still have enough money to get a ctr as a daily beater!

00TL-P3.2 08-14-2019 08:48 AM

2020 MSO GT

https://www.netcarshow.com/mclaren/2020-gt_by_mso/


McLaren Automotive, the creator of luxury high performance sportscars and supercars, debuts the new McLaren GT by MSO - featuring personalisation options available through McLaren Special Operations - on the Concept Car Lawn at the 2019 Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance.

The McLaren GT reimagines the spirit of traditional Grand Touring, offering the engaging drive McLaren is known for, as well as the space, comfort and usability expected of a GT. The McLaren GT on display on the Concept Car Lawn at the world-renowned event in California showcases the personalisation options available from MSO for the new GT. It features a newly developed exterior paint colour, MSO Defined Flux Silver, contrasted by an MSO Bespoke Satin Graphite exterior paint applied to the door skirts, front splitter, wing mirrors, rear bumper and diffuser. Complementing the exterior are MSO Bespoke Satin Graphite Iron Brake Calipers and the MSO Bright Pack, featuring a bright chrome exterior upper window surround, polished titanium exhaust finisher and Gloss Black Diamond Cut wheels.

While most MSO show cars focus on the exterior, MSO's bespoke creativity truly comes to life in the interior. Most notably, MSO Bespoke Geoform Stitching, inspired by the geometric canopy design of the British Museum, is applied to the seat backs, sun visor, door cards and armrest, elevating the cabin to another level of luxury. Interior materials include Flux White Leather, which contains a subtle, metallic sheen, and a contrasting Satin Graphite Leather, to complement the exterior colour. The MSO logo is debossed in the headrests and leather sills, while MSO Bespoke Silver Infused Carbon Fibre is applied to the extended gear shift paddles and the steering wheel clasp. The MSO Electrochromic Roof, Bespoke floormats and MSO Painted Key Back, in Flux Silver to match the exterior body colour, round out the specification.

"The McLaren GT defies the rules of a conventional Grand Tourer - it maintains the McLaren DNA of a lightweight and engaging drive, while adding in the space, comfort and usability expected of a GT. We believe that the McLaren GT has class leading elegance and sophistication, and is the perfect car to further personalise, whether it be through an MSO Defined or MSO Bespoke option, or alternatively, a unique, customer inspired design that MSO delivers a stunning interpretation of." Ansar Ali, Managing Director, McLaren Special Operations

Though comfort, space and usability are hallmarks of Grand Touring, no McLaren would be complete without abundant performance. The McLaren GT features a 620PS 4.0-litre, twin-turbocharged V8 mated to a 7-speed SSG transmission that delivers linear, seamless and relentless acceleration. The performance statistics speak for themselves: 0-100km/h (0-62mph) in 3.2 seconds, while 0-200km/h (0-124mph) is dispatched in 9.0 seconds. One of the most defining elements of the new McLaren GT - and arguably what will cement its position as the new segment leader - is its dynamic prowess. The suspension, steering and brakes are all bespoke to the car and are optimised to provide an outstanding Grand Touring drive experience with inherent balance, responsiveness and precision, and with ride comfort setting new McLaren standards.
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00TL-P3.2 12-19-2023 08:25 AM

https://www.netcarshow.com/mclaren/2024-gts/



McLaren revealed the new GTS, which joins the McLaren line-up as a replacement for the GT. The super-lightweight GTS is engineered to delight drivers who demand the dynamic excellence and driving excitement of a McLaren and the ride comfort, refinement and luggage space suited to routine drives and extended journeys.

"The new McLaren GTS offers an unmatched blend of McLaren driving dynamics and performance, with refinement and practicality. When you want a true supercar driving experience, the GTS delivers that; when you want to relax on a longer journey of with luggage for a weekend away, the GTS is an ideal companion. This is a car that is true to McLaren's racing DNA but with multiple layers of ability." Michael Leiters, CEO, McLaren Automotive

Retaining the core McLaren attractions of beautiful yet functional design, class-leading power-to-weight ratio - enabled by lightweight carbon fibre construction centred on a unique monocoque chassis - and unmatched driving dynamics, the new GTS is also visually even more powerful and offers increased choice of exterior and interior specification.

The elegant exterior lines of the GT remain the basis of the car's aerodynamic package and profile, but new visual enhancements mean that the GTS is even more assertive. At the front of the GTS, the 'hammerhead' signature styling has been updated with a new lower front bumper section. This area of the car features newly sculpted air intakes that are more pronounced, with wider intakes to channel more air into the car's radiator system. The front intake air blades can be optioned in gloss visual carbon fibre, reflecting McLaren's racing DNA and giving the GTS a more aggressive look. On the rear fenders, new, taller air scoops - also available in gloss visual carbon fibre - are sited on the car's shoulders. Like the redesigned front end, the enhancements on the rear fenders are functional, enabling greater airflow into the 4.0-litre twin-turbocharged V8 engine.

The muscular visuals and surfacing of the GTS include a large rear diffuser and dual exhausts - the latter also part of a package that delivers a raw supercar soundtrack on demand with the optional Sports Exhaust system.

As standard, the McLaren GTS comes with a gloss black finish on the exhaust finisher, mirror caps and window surrounds, for a stealthy appearance by default. New GTS badging, including new side badges, can be tinted with a black finish by selecting the Stealth Badge Pack option. Visual carbon fibre options include an underbody carbon pack, which encompasses the front splitter, side skirts and rear bumper lower and diffuser. Exterior details such as the front air intake blades, the rear fender air intakes and mirror caps can also be finished in carbon fibre.

The GTS is underpinned by the carbon fibre MonoCell II-T monocoque chassis, which boasts strong, ultra-lightweight construction and the rigidity demanded by a mid-engine McLaren supercar. The standard composite roof is made from recycled carbon fibre, one of many weight saving solutions within the construction of the GTS that contributes towards optimal vehicle performance and dynamics. These choices are instrumental in enabling the GTS to deliver a thrilling lightweight supercar driving experience, without deterioration in ride quality, or unnecessary noise, harshness and vibration.

At just 1,520kg (DIN) the GTS is the lightest car in its class and has a segment best power-to-weight ratio of 418PS per-tonne. The power of the V8 M840TE 4.0-litre twin-turbocharged engine has been elevated to 635PS at 7,500rpm, the additional 15PS coming from increased crankshaft torque enabled by more aggressive combustion phasing and revised ignition timing. A launch-control function is standard; when enabled, the GTS hits 0-100km/h (0-62mph) in only 3.2 seconds and 0-200km/h (0-124mph) in just 8.9 seconds. The maximum speed of the GTS is 326km/h (203mph).

The McLaren GTS has a seven-speed SSG transmission that provides smooth, seamless and rapid shifts in default-from-start-up Comfort mode, ensuring relaxing yet brisk acceleration. Beyond this, a driver can enhance their supercar experience with two further driving modes - Sport and Track - via the Active Dynamics Panel. Sport introduces heightened drama and urgency, with momentary ignition-spark-cut technology delivering faster and more aggressive gearshifts. Track mode takes this to a higher level still, maximising the performance of the gearbox with minimal loss of torque between shifts. Manual control of gearshifts is possible using the steering-wheel-mounted paddle shifters in any of the drive modes.

The tuning of the electro-hydraulic steering system, the standard-fit suspension featuring adaptive damping with proactive damping control, and the powerful carbon ceramic braking system are all unique to the McLaren GTS. These elements optimise the mid-mounted position of the V8 engine and the car's lightweight construction for an authentic supercar driving experience, with balance and agility prioritised, but not at the expensive of comfort and ride quality when this is beneficial.

The steering of the GTS delivers a level of feedback and feeling unmatched by rivals. Ultra-precise and accurate, the system automatically increases its level of assistance at low speeds, for ease-of-use during low-speed manoeuvres such as parallel or bay parking.

The McLaren GTS is equipped with 390mm brake discs at the front and 380mm discs at the rear, all carbon ceramic. With lightweight six-piston aluminium calipers (four-piston at the rear), the braking system delivers immense feel and performance, capable of bringing the car to a halt from 62mph in just 32 metres.

The continuously variable, twin-valve hydraulic dampers from McLaren Automotive's Official Intelligent Suspension Supplier, Monroe, are a fundamental part of the lightweight, aluminium double-wishbone suspension. Featuring McLaren's adaptive damper technology, Proactive Damper Control, suspension characteristics alter between the three Active Dynamics modes - Comfort, Sport and Track. This ranges from maximum compliance in Comfort, ideal for more relaxed driving, to much more robust damper control in Track mode, for dynamic drives.

The McLaren GTS is also well within its comfort zone in urban environments. Visibility to the front is excellent, while the large glass tailgate, glazed C-pillars and large rear quarter windows ensure first-class rearward vision. Underbody ground clearance of 110mm can be increased to 130mm using the vehicle lift function. Enhanced over the GT's system, the GTS vehicle lift can now raise or lower the nose in only four seconds - more than twice as fast as before.

A carbon fibre rear upper structure within the monocoque chassis' design allows for the creation of a large and versatile luggage space behind the passenger cell. 420 litres in capacity, the cargo area is accessed via a front-hinged, full-length glass tailgate that is electrically operated and incorporates a soft close function. The luggage space is complemented by a 150 litre storage within the nose of the car. The total cargo space of 570 litres makes the McLaren GTS the most practical new supercar on sale.

Aligned with the inherent practicality of the GTS is an interior designed to blend the car's level of performance with a refined and luxurious space. It is a comfortable cabin for long distance journeys, while it also provides a platform from which the driver can take full advantage of the car's outstanding dynamic capabilities.

The refined, high-quality cabin uses a mixture of materials selected to deliver an ambience of performance and luxury. Machine polished and knurled aluminium switches and controls are placed around the interior, including for the steering wheel-mounted gearshift paddles, alongside gloss black surrounds for the infotainment screen, gear-selector on the centre console, air vent housings and window switches. Optional visual carbon fibre packs include a satin carbon finish steering wheel clasp and extended gearshift paddles, and interior surrounds, along with sill finishers with McLaren branding.

As standard, the Comfort seats of the GTS are upholstered with Nappa leather trim alongside a leather trimmed steering wheel. New Performance and TechLux interior schemes introduce a refreshed design. Performance trim is sporty, sharp and technical with seats upholstered in Softgrain Aniline leather and AlcantaraŠ in Jet Black or Barolo, with contrasting piping. Performance also includes Power Adjust Heated Memory Comfort Seats. The new TechLux interior scheme epitomises classical elegance, albeit with a modern McLaren twist. A choice of Softgrain Aniline Leather interiors feature sophisticated colour highlights with a unique and newly introduced double piped pattern on the seats.

The 10.25-inch digital instrument display, with its crisp and sharp graphics, provides a clear view of vital driver information such as speed, gear selection and engine revs, and integrates with the standard navigation system to provide turn-by-turn directions. The GTS also features a 7-inch central touchscreen infotainment system, portrait in orientation. Sharp and responsive thanks to its powerful 10-core processor, it's easy to use, with its smartphone-style menu and input method. Satellite navigation with HEREŽ navigation mapping and real-time traffic information, Bluetooth telephone connectivity and media streaming, plus DAB digital radio reception is standard. A Bowers & Wilkins premium audio system comprising 12-speakers, along with carbon fibre sub-bass woofers and Kevlar mid-range drive units is optionally available.

Interior illumination by way of hidden-until-lit six-colour ambient lighting is offered, while the natural light afforded by a glass panoramic roof is available with an electrochromic glazed panel, which replaces the standard carbon fibre composite gloss black roof. The panel allows a driver to select one of five light transmission levels at the touch of a button. In its darkest setting, the electrochromic roof provides a 0.6% light transmission level.

Alongside an extended and refreshed palette of exterior paints including new options such as Mantis Green, Tanzanite Blue and Ice White, there is a new colour exclusive to the GTS from launch: Lava Grey. This metallic finish incorporates a shimmering red fleck that catches the light to create a distinctive effect that marks it out from other shades of grey.

Further additions include a new 10-spoke Turbine lightweight forged alloy wheel, available in Silver, Gloss Black, Gloss Black with Diamond Cut effect, and Orum. The standard wheel for the GTS is a 10-twin-spoke forged alloy wheel, also offered in Silver, Gloss Black or Gloss Black Diamond Cut, alongside an exclusive Tungsten option. Both wheel designs can be combined with new optional titanium locking wheel bolts, which are 35% lighter than the standard bolts, reducing unsprung mass. McLaren's technical partner Pirelli supplies P ZERO™ tyres developed specially for the GTS, offering high-performance and levels of grip, alongside refinement in equal measure.

The McLaren GTS comes with a standard three-year vehicle warranty with unlimited mileage, as well as a three-year paint warranty and a ten-year anti-perforation warranty. The GTS is eligible for the McLaren Extended Warranty, which can be purchased in 12- or 24-month periods up to a total warranty of 12 years. Three years of vehicle servicing is included with the McLaren Service Plan.

An accomplished and functional approach to a lightweight McLaren supercar, the new GTS takes its place in a McLaren line-up that will continue evolving in 2024 and beyond.
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SamDoe1 12-19-2023 10:13 AM

Looks cool but still looks like every other McLaren out there. I'm surprised these don't depreciate more.

00TL-P3.2 12-19-2023 11:25 AM

Would still have a 570, for my $$, if I were picking a MCL, or an Artura.

SamDoe1 12-19-2023 12:35 PM

Isn't this basically a 570? Artura is a lot different.

00TL-P3.2 12-19-2023 12:48 PM

I'm not sure how much different the GT is to the 570, appearance is definitely similar between the GT & Artura than the GT & 570 [at least at the front] :shrug:

SamDoe1 12-19-2023 12:54 PM

El Goog says that the GT is a GT version of the 720S with less power. Same engine and basic chassis structure/suspension.


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