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Old 09-03-2014, 11:23 PM
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I it.

2200lb. Is this real life?
are you back from your trip? i am waiting for your resume. i already told some recruiters about you and they asked me what does he do?

I said i don't know.
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Old 09-03-2014, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
are you back from your trip? i am waiting for your resume. i already told some recruiters about you and they asked me what does he do?

I said i don't know.
Holy!

Let me update you on some stuff tomorrow. Thanks bro!
Old 09-04-2014, 08:29 AM
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Not 100% sold on it yet. Waiting for more detailed photos.
Also, shouldn't the thread title say "2016 revealed"?
Old 09-04-2014, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
are you back from your trip? i am waiting for your resume. i already told some recruiters about you and they asked me what does he do?

I said i don't know.
Can I haz job too??



But seriously, that "reveal" was complete garbage. They never showed anything besides a 3/4 view during the whole time he was talking about the car.
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Few more shots (limited interior included) from TG:UK
Link: TG:UK MX5
I spy large center tach, like the 3S gets, along with the "glued-on" iPad (who knows if this will come to the US this way).
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Originally Posted by MeehowsBRZ
Can I haz job too??



But seriously, that "reveal" was complete garbage. They never showed anything besides a 3/4 view during the whole time he was talking about the car.
He walked around the car though. They showed the front 3/4, side, and rear 3/4.
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I'm looking forward to seeing it in person because I am not really that enthused about it so far.

Plus, what is with the 4-lug wheels? Seriously? Who still does that?
Old 09-04-2014, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I'm looking forward to seeing it in person because I am not really that enthused about it so far.

Plus, what is with the 4-lug wheels? Seriously? Who still does that?
Weight savings, simplicity.
The reveal car was supposedly on 16" wheels also.
Old 09-04-2014, 09:49 AM
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Not a lot of wide 4 lug options out there...here are some color swaps I did.

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Old 09-04-2014, 11:57 AM
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Wide tires aren't really necessary in a ~2200lb car, plus really wide tires would kill steering feel.

And I love the design. I see a lot of 4c in the rear end. Can't wait to see it in person. I just want to know power numbers.
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Whyd they have to give it such looking eyes.. I mean headlights.
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i dont like the front bumper.

It reminds me of

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I don't like it. At all.
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^I read a comment along the lines of "catfish F-Body"

The tail lights bother me the most.

Also, at the end of the reveal the guy said there would be another model with 17" wheels, stepped off stage then the broadcast ended

the presenter was caught saying "I dragged that out as long as I could" before the mic cut out too, heh.
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Also, if you look on MazdaUSA, the 2016 MX5 link says "Preproduction model shown". Wonder what might get changed between now & actual release.

I don't so much mind the 16" wheels, as long as they're proportionately fit to the car without an excessively tall sidewall.

Edit: From the Japanese reveal, in white


One more, with the optional 17" wheels.

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Old 09-04-2014, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Wide tires aren't really necessary in a ~2200lb car, plus really wide tires would kill steering feel.
Sticky will get you further than wider, but a 195?!? 215-225 would be a much better all around size.

I've got 245s on mine and the steering feel is all still there, it's just slightly heavier which it needed anyway. The only drawback I've noticed is the tramlining which can catch you off guard.

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Those optional wheels are 100x better looking and really help the car.

That said, 4 bolt lugs ... Well, at least all the NB owners can just swap out their wheels on the NDs.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Also, shouldn't the thread title say "2016 revealed"?
Oops! Will do.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Those optional wheels are 100x better looking and really help the car.

That said, 4 bolt lugs ... Well, at least all the NB owners can just swap out their wheels on the NDs.
agree on the 17s, hopefully they're a little wider than the 16s. The 4lug thing isn't a killer for me.
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Originally Posted by MarbleGT
Sticky will get you further than wider, but a 195?!? 215-225 would be a much better all around size.

I've got 245s on mine and the steering feel is all still there, it's just slightly heavier which it needed anyway. The only drawback I've noticed is the tramlining which can catch you off guard.
Probably for CAFE standards. Also helps the car feel livelier for test drives, I bet.

Despite how popular MX-5s are for autocross and motorsport, I have to say you're in the minority of owners
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Eh I don't really like, though I could live with it in black I suppose. The NB was the only good-looking one. Otherwise this is the same as every other Miata, good car that needs more power and a fixed roof.
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I like it much better than the current gen
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Originally Posted by Costco
Probably for CAFE standards. Also helps the car feel livelier for test drives, I bet.

Despite how popular MX-5s are for autocross and motorsport, I have to say you're in the minority of owners

I'm willing to bet you are right.
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Eh I don't really like, though I could live with it in black I suppose. The NB was the only good-looking one. Otherwise this is the same as every other Miata, good car that needs more power and a fixed roof.
Rumored.
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~2200lbs I think I read somewhere.

very impressed with the weight control.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Rumored.
I could see that happening sooner or later. Mazdaspeed version as well, but that wouldn't be for several years, if that.

The other rumor is that the PRHT might have a bit more sound deadening. I like the lines on it better, and I need a relatively quiet car for DD duty...
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Originally Posted by MarbleGT
Sticky will get you further than wider, but a 195?!? 215-225 would be a much better all around size.

I've got 245s on mine and the steering feel is all still there, it's just slightly heavier which it needed anyway. The only drawback I've noticed is the tramlining which can catch you off guard.
Don't you need thin tires on this car to make it fun? Just like the Scion FR-S, they put small tires so that you can actually drift it with the stock engine.
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it depends on the type of fun you want to have.

You want track/autocross type of fun then you will need better and wider tires. The feel of having extra capability to go faster in the corner but have to hold back because of crapper/skinny tires is not fun, it is sad!

or if you want drifting fun (not competition), burnout, power slide kind of fun, then yah you can just use pretty much any tires.
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Originally Posted by Costco
I could see that happening sooner or later. Mazdaspeed version as well, but that wouldn't be for several years, if that.

The other rumor is that the PRHT might have a bit more sound deadening. I like the lines on it better, and I need a relatively quiet car for DD duty...
Even if they do a coupe, I'd still go for the roadster. Same as the F-Type.
Just prefer the open top in this case.
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Don't you need thin tires on this car to make it fun? Just like the Scion FR-S, they put small tires so that you can actually drift it with the stock engine.
The car is meant to handle, not drift. The put small tires on it to save on weight and increase gas mileage, likely the same for the GT86. Its cost effective and very practical to have smaller common size tires. Kicking the back end out is fun, but not being able to and trying really really hard is more fun. Mine won't break loose at any speed I'm comfortable with.

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The other rumor is that the PRHT might have a bit more sound deadening. I like the lines on it better, and I need a relatively quiet car for DD duty...
The current PRHT is not much quieter than the soft top..slightly less wind noise, but still a noisy car by nature.

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The car is meant to handle, not drift. The put small tires on it to save on weight and increase gas mileage, likely the same for the GT86. Its cost effective and very practical to have smaller common size tires. Kicking the back end out is fun, but not being able to and trying really really hard is more fun. Mine won't break loose at any speed I'm comfortable with.



The current PRHT is not much quieter than the soft top..slightly less wind noise, but still a noisy car by nature.
Should have phrased that better. Rumors were that the ND PRHT is coming, and it should have more sound deadening compared to a hardtop/PRHT

and yes, people will upgrade the wheels and tires anyway on a car like this. The chief engineer of the FR-S has mentioned that a few times.
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From here: 2016 Mazda MX-5 To Get 2.0-Liter Engine In U.S, 1.5-Liter Elsewhere

The United States’ version of the 2016 Mazda MX-5 will get a 2.0-liter Skyactiv-G four-cylinder engine, the company confirmed today. Combined with the Skyactiv-MT manual transmission, the fourth-gen MX-5’s powertrain should prove similar to the existing car’s setup.

With that familiar powertrain taken to the next level of efficiency and refinement wrapped in the new, lighter, stiffer fourth-generation chassis, the MX-5’s legendary reputation for driving pleasure at an attainable price should not only remain intact, but grow.

While details on the 2.0-liter Skyactiv-G engine remain masked, Mazda says it offers “ultra-high compression,” hinting that its output may be greater than the 2.0-liter Skyactiv-G unit found in the Mazda3, which rates 155 horsepower.

In the Mazda3 with the manual transmission, that engine also rates 29 mpg city and 40 mpg highway; in MX-5 tune it may yield slightly better or slightly worse efficiency, but either way, the new car should prove considerably more efficient than the current MX-5, which scores EPA ratings of 21 mpg city, 28 mpg highway and 24 mpg combined with the six-speed manual transmission.

On top of its promising dynamics, the 2016 MX-5’s exterior design is far more striking than at any point in the previous three generations. Likewise, the interior quality and materials appear to be above those of its predecessors.

All in all, the fourth coming of the world’s most popular two-seat roadster holds a great deal of promise for the enthusiast.
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Would be nice to be closer to 200.
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in MX-5 tune it may yield slightly better or slightly worse efficiency
LOL No shit..

They can make it worse by saying, slight better or slightly worse or maybe the same efficiency.
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Would be nice to be closer to 200.
It's easy to get more power out of a car.
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Very much looking forward to these getting here.
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It's easy to get more power out of a car.
While sticking with NA? Try that with your BRZ then.

I'd rather the power be from the factory first.
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While details on the 2.0-liter Skyactiv-G engine remain masked, Mazda says it offers “ultra-high compression,” hinting that its output may be greater than the 2.0-liter Skyactiv-G unit found in the Mazda3, which rates 155 horsepower.
The compression ratio is already at 13.0:1...isn't that considered ultra high already? I wonder how much higher it can go.


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