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Old 10-12-2007, 01:16 PM
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...and still a station wagon. Sedan version gets no love.
I wish the sedan would get some love too.
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best looking wagon / car in it's class.
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From Autoblog...

With the Mazda2 and Mazda6 selling successfully abroad, the Zoom-Zoom crowd is turning its attention to the Mazda3, with this rendering surfacing in good company of the wealth of RX-9 sketches that were popping up everywhere last month. The rendering borrows cues from its little and big brothers to forecast what the upcoming 3 could look like, while ostensibly reasonable predictions place four-cylinder engines underhood ranging from 1.5 to 2.5 liters, as well as the availability of four- and five-door variants like the current and previous models.

The current Mazda3, although facelifted just a couple of years ago, has been on the market for five years now, making it a prime candidate for a total redesign. Reports suggest that the new 3 could bow in Paris this September ahead of a spring 2009 market launch, so we'll keep an eye out for it when we land in the City of Lights.
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looks very nice...

will this be sold in the US unlike the new mazda6?

i can't believe the 3's been on the market for 5 years already. i still remember the first time i saw it on display at a shopping mall and thinking "this is a mazda?!?!"
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how come they don't do AWDs on the MazdaSpeed3, like they did with the Speed6? It'd be another contender in the WRX/EVO market...
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Old 02-22-2008, 12:35 PM
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how come they don't do AWDs on the MazdaSpeed3, like they did with the Speed6? It'd be another contender in the WRX/EVO market...
The Speed6 isn't exactly setting sales records. Weight and cost were the two biggest reasons (I'm a MS3 owner) ... They wanted to keep the car in the low-mid $20Ks and AWD would have put the car at $30k which is where the MS6 is languishing.

If you haven't driven a MS3, you don't know how much AWD isn't missed. Yes there is torque steer but it's not bad at all. I have 275hp at the wheels and I can pretty much do whatever I want without worry the car is going to squirt off in some unintended direction.
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It's good. It's amazing how strong MB's design influence is throughout the auto world. The strong, crescent shaped front fenders found on the S-Class seem to be popping up everywhere... with this sketch being no exception...
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Old 02-22-2008, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by is300eater
how come they don't do AWDs on the MazdaSpeed3, like they did with the Speed6? It'd be another contender in the WRX/EVO market...
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It's good. It's amazing how strong MB's design influence is throughout the auto world. The strong, crescent shaped front fenders found on the S-Class seem to be popping up everywhere... with this sketch being no exception...
To me, it looks more like the RX-8 influenced the fenders...


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Now that's just silly. Volvo uses the same platform and has a S40 T5 AWD.
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Old 02-22-2008, 09:03 PM
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Now that's just silly
yeah, when he quoted me I wasn't sure where he was going with that...
Mazda is like one of the only line (under Ford) doing good
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Old 02-22-2008, 09:20 PM
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Mazda is like one of the only line (under Ford) doing good
Ford only owns about 34% of Mazda. Everyone thinks it's like Volvo but it's not.
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^^^opps, sorry charliemike I didn't mean to put part of my reply inside your quote... I was trying to fix it but I went pass the 5 minutes mark... I have like little to no service with my Treo right now...
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Old 02-24-2008, 03:03 PM
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The Extreme above goes squarely against the rumored Focus RS which is coming out soon in Europe with 280 HP and FWD also. The specs are identical.
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Old 02-24-2008, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
The Speed6 isn't exactly setting sales records. Weight and cost were the two biggest reasons (I'm a MS3 owner) ... They wanted to keep the car in the low-mid $20Ks and AWD would have put the car at $30k which is where the MS6 is languishing.

If you haven't driven a MS3, you don't know how much AWD isn't missed. Yes there is torque steer but it's not bad at all. I have 275hp at the wheels and I can pretty much do whatever I want without worry the car is going to squirt off in some unintended direction.
You put 275 at the wheels with a Mazdaspeed 3? What did you do to it?

Because I have driven this car, stock, many times cos a friend owns it and lends it to me often, I can tell you that this car's problems are:

1. Not linear power delivery by the engine (many times it's like an on/off switch). The meaty part of the torque is squeezed into less than 2000 rpm of a range.

2. Harsh on rough roads

3. The exhaust resonates at even medium load

Stock, yes, FWD is adequate, however had they had it tuned at 100% the torque on the first two gears, it would have been a problem. First and second gears are tuned so that the CPU backs off the torque and power output of the engine quite a bit.
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Old 02-25-2008, 07:37 PM
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You put 275 at the wheels with a Mazdaspeed 3? What did you do to it?

Because I have driven this car, stock, many times cos a friend owns it and lends it to me often, I can tell you that this car's problems are:

1. Not linear power delivery by the engine (many times it's like an on/off switch). The meaty part of the torque is squeezed into less than 2000 rpm of a range.

2. Harsh on rough roads

3. The exhaust resonates at even medium load

Stock, yes, FWD is adequate, however had they had it tuned at 100% the torque on the first two gears, it would have been a problem. First and second gears are tuned so that the CPU backs off the torque and power output of the engine quite a bit.
Mazdaspeed Intake and Cat-back exhaust ... Before and after dyno at the same shop within two days or so of each other. Mazda had been saying that you could see up to 30hp with the CAI/CBE combo and they were right. Went from 252/252 to 275/287.

While I agree with you, AWD would have added a couple hundred pounds to a car that really doesn't need it. Yes they monkey'd with the torque in 1st and 2nd but the heart of this car is in 30-50 and 50-70 where it just hauls ass. Paid $25k for the car (got it during the heady days of MSRP) and put about $1000 in parts and labor into it and I am very happy I did it.
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Mazdaspeed Intake and Cat-back exhaust ... Before and after dyno at the same shop within two days or so of each other. Mazda had been saying that you could see up to 30hp with the CAI/CBE combo and they were right. Went from 252/252 to 275/287.

While I agree with you, AWD would have added a couple hundred pounds to a car that really doesn't need it. Yes they monkey'd with the torque in 1st and 2nd but the heart of this car is in 30-50 and 50-70 where it just hauls ass. Paid $25k for the car (got it during the heady days of MSRP) and put about $1000 in parts and labor into it and I am very happy I did it.

Agreed. When you are between 2.8K rpm and 4.2K rpm it hauls like a V8. But that's it. It's very weak at the very top and very low end.

However you are saying that stock the 3 puts down 252HP at the wheels? Automobile shows 214HP which makes a lot more sense.
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Old 06-30-2008, 04:37 PM
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Rendered Speculation: Next-gen Mazda3

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The Mazda3 has been a compact darling ever since its introduction in 2004, and even though its current design is nearly five years old, it still wins many comparison tests. Since its near the end of a design cycle, a new Zoom Zoom Mazda is on its way, and some interesting renderings have been published online of what the new Mazda3 could look like.

The design theme is decidedly Mazda6-based up front, with similarly angled LED headlights and the same basic shape, but this unofficial Mazda3 is far more "in your face." The large front air dam looks more like something from the MazdaSpeed collection, and its large opening doubles as the Mazda3's grille. The side view features clean, flowing lines and the same basic shape as the current Mazda3 hatch. Out back, football-shaped LED taillamps give this rendering a touch of class, and the similarly-shaped in-set dual exhaust looks like a concept-only touch. Due to the surprising success of the current model, the next Mazda3 has to be very, very good or it will be a big disapointment. If the next 3 looks as good as these renderings, we wouldn't be disappointed at all.




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I'm not sure - not quite feeling it. The head on shot looks OK but the rest......
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i like the direction this design will be taking
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I like the exhaust pipes staying in same theme with the headlights
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Old 06-30-2008, 04:47 PM
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mazda has impressed me with all of their recent models and designs. this one is no exception.
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the rear shot is awful at best...
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Old 07-01-2008, 04:23 PM
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Thankfully, the front and rear won't make production looking like that.
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Thankfully, the front and rear won't make production looking like that.
Sure, but overall it's a nice design.
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much more aggressive than the outgoing model. i'll reserve judgement until i see the official pics.
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Is the next gen Mazda 3 really due out in the Spring of '09, or just speculation?
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Is the next gen Mazda 3 really due out in the Spring of '09, or just speculation?
Definitely '09, not sure yet if its Spring or Summer.
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http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/31/2...nveiled-in-la/

This November's Los Angeles Auto Show is shaping up to be Mecca for enthusiasts. The 2010 Ford Mustang is due to be revealed in the City of Angels, Volkswagen will supposedly unveil a mid-engine roadster to rival the Elise and it's been all but officially confirmed by Nissan that the 370Z is on its way – two of them, no less.

So with all that rear-wheel-drive hotness on display, the redesigned Mazda3 sedan might have to struggle for attention. Then again, it might not. As suspected, spied and rendered, the next Mazda3 will be taking cues from the recently released Mazda6, including flared wheel arches, swept back headlamps and a gaping air dam. The illustration above (courtesy of AutoCar) is yet another derivation of a reoccurring theme we've seen before, and with the same C1 Ford Focus chassis, the 2010 Mazda3 will have the looks to back up its performance.

As for engines, European consumers will get a choice of gasoline powerplants ranging from 1.4- to 2.0-liters, along with 1.6- and 2.2-liter oilburners. In the U.S., we can expect engines ranging from 2.0- to 2.5-liters, while the Mazdaspeed version is expected to be packing the turbocharged 2.5-liter five-cylinder from the Focus ST. The five-door will debut at the Bologna Motor Show in December, and sales are expected to begin in Europe and North America early next year.
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It's ok, but I think they went overboard with the football/eye-like ovals.
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the front is too droopy, but I like the rest.
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First official photos of the All new 2009 Mazda 3 Sedan










Looks awesome! They took the original shape and added some flare to it, and now it looks even better than the out going generation. Don't fix what ain't broke!
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I am really loving Mazdas new designs. The 6 is a great looking car and now the 3 too. It was in need of a refresh and it looks like they have changed it enough to make it look like an almost all new car. I give it a big
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Wow, the new 3 looks great.
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