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Old 04-12-2019, 12:16 PM
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An AWD GTI competitor? Hope it sees some reality.

I don't recall torque steer in the M6, but imagine maybe they could map it differently for the 'Hyper' M3. 6AT could use some more aggressive tuning as well.
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First one I've seen in the wild ... from behind, in "Soul Red" ...


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Not bad, too much high gloss black trim, IMO.
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I agree on the high gloss black (would matte black look any better?), but it didn't look as "trucky" in person as I had expected. Still, the rear visibility must be horrible--as bad as a Camaro-cave ... although I guess rearview cams must mitigate that, I guess.
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Flat black may not be the answer either, likely less aesthetically pleasing. Maybe a satin? Body color would possibly be worse on red, too much.
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Nowadays, the CX-5 accounts for more than half of all Mazda sales, leaving the Mazda3 in a very distant second place. Although it doesn't win the popularity contest, the 3 even better demonstrates the tenets of Mazda: low, nimble, and attainably sexy.

For the 2019 model year, the Mazda3 has made key improvements. It moves to a new architecture that boasts 30 percent high-strength steel for improved body rigidity. The 2.5-liter inline four-cylinder becomes the base engine, making 186 hp and 186 lb-ft of torque, and a more powerful Skyactiv-X engine is likely to come much later. A torsion-beam rear suspension replaces the multilink setup. Mazda also promises improved NVH with the help of better cabin insulation.



Never needing lots of power, the Mazda3 has made agility its hallmark. Turns out, though, the sedan is relatively quick. In our tests, the Mazda3 sedan ran from 0 to 60 mph in 7.0 seconds, making it quicker than the Kia Forte EX (8.2 seconds), Volkswagen Jetta SEL (7.8 seconds), and Hyundai ElantraLimited (9.0 seconds). It fell just behind a 2019 Honda Civic Touring we recently tested, which hit the mark in 6.8 seconds.

It was much the same story in the quarter mile, with the Mazda3 forging ahead of the Kia, Volkswagen, and Hyundai, and about on par with Honda. The 3 clocked a time of 15.4 seconds at 91.2 mph, just behind the Civic's 15.2 seconds at 92.2 mph.

Hearing the car accelerate is just as fun as actually accelerating, and this is where the Mazda3 may fall short. "The engine lacks that extra grunt that a premium car delivers," executive editor Mark Rechtin noted of our $28,015 Premium package tester. "It sounds like it is struggling when you floor it."


Mazda outperformed the competition in braking tests from 60 to 0 mph. It managed to stop within 112 feet, compared to 118 feet for the Kia, 113 feet for the Honda, 121 feet for the VW, and 125 feet for the Hyundai. Road test editor Chris Walton noted mild dive in the braking test.

If you need further proof the sedan has made handling a priority, take a look at its figure-eight performance. It outran all the aforementioned rivals, tackling the figure eight in 26.7 seconds at an average 0.66 g. That puts it about even with the Honda's 26.6 seconds at 0.66 g and the Kia's 26.8 seconds at 0.63 g, but ahead of the VW and Hyundai.

Despite a solid figure-eight run, the Mazda3 exhibited a few signs of weakness. Testing director Kim Reynolds noted it understeers in corners. "I was trying to get it to bite on turn-in better, but it just won't," he said. The Mazda3's steering feel is heavier than usual; this isn't necessarily a bad quality, but not everyone will like it.

We don't expect cars in this class to exhibit a buttery ride, but the 3 can be a bit overly stiff. "There is a significant amount of tire roar coming into the cabin," noted Rechtin. He also pointed out, "The suspension lacks that subtlety and suppleness that a premium car delivers," lamenting the clumsy transmission shifts.

Overall, the numbers look better than we may have expected. At least on paper, the Mazda3 performs well in acceleration, handling, and braking tests, even besting the class-leading Honda Civicat times. But dig beneath the data, and you'll encounter a few unrefined characteristics.



https://www.motortrend.com/cars/mazd...t-test-review/

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^based on that Article, basically Civic is a better buy
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:00 AM
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Maybe, but: 6AT > CVT and the 3 will almost certainly be the more enjoyable car to drive. I can forgive a couple (imperceptible) 10ths here & there for that.
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Maybe, but: 6AT > CVT and the 3 will almost certainly be the more enjoyable car to drive. I can forgive a couple (imperceptible) 10ths here & there for that.
Then again, 6MT>6AT>CVT.
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Saw my first 3 hatch today, Soul Red.
Looks smaller than the 3G, and the huge C-pillar didn't seem that bad.
Was in a school zone & it was going the opposite direction, so didn't get a really good look at it.
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Saw my first 3 hatch today, Soul Red.
Looks smaller than the 3G, and the huge C-pillar didn't seem that bad.
Was in a school zone & it was going the opposite direction, so didn't get a really good look at it.
I saw one today in the same color. Hatch looked pretty good. Had a body colored hatch spoiler rather than black and looked bigger. Is that an option or something?

Wasnt a Focus RS sized one but big enough to help balance the back end a lot. I liked it.
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If you've ever forgotten to secure even a single lug nut holding a wheel to a car, it doesn't take a lot of driving to notice that something has gone wrong. If the problem comes out of nowhere, though, it may catch a number of people by surprise. That's the reason behind Mazda's latest recall.

Mazda has issued a recall for approximately 25,000 examples of the 2019 Mazda3 in both hatchback and sedan form. The vehicles were produced between Sept. 25, 2018 and April 19, 2019.

The problem comes from the wheel lug nuts, which are responsible for securing the car's wheels to the car itself. According to the automaker, a manufacturing error caused a gap between the hub bolt head and a flange in the hub bearing assembly, which might lead to an eventual loosening of the lug nuts. If that happens and action isn't immediately taken, the wheel may fall off, which presents a pretty massive safety issue. Mazda says that a rattling noise will occur before the wheel falls off, and drivers will possibly feel some shuddering in the steering wheel.

Mazda discovered the issue in April after receiving a field report of a lug nut loosening. Two days later, Mazda found the root cause that could result in loose lug nuts. The automaker improved the assembly process to eliminate this gap between the parts, but it initiated a recall for vehicles already out of the factory with this issue.

The remedy is about as simple as it can get. Upon receiving recalled vehicles at the dealership, technicians will go about tightening the lug nuts, which will eliminate the gap between the parts and prevent the issue from happening again. No replacement parts are needed. Mazda will notify owners in early August via first-class mail.
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The Bottom Line

The Mazda makes a convincing case for a premium hatchback, one that we could imagine someone choosing to drive even if they could afford a more expensive car. Although opting for the manual is pricey, its higher price is justified by a substantial load of additional content. When it came time to vote, we preferred the stylish and luxurious 3 over the staid but functional Golf. But we lament the 3's swerve away from sportiness, and it'd be difficult to make a case for it over the Golf's similarly priced, dramatically quicker, and more enthusiastic-driving GTI sibling.



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^ I read that one this morning. Not sure why they didn't compare it to the GTI given the similar price points.
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How similarly priced at they when optioned out similarly? (3 vs. GTI)

I would think most people cross shopping the 3 would compare it to the Golf and not the GTI. As much as savagegeese sang praises for the 3, I think I would pass on it in favor of the GTI. Can't go wrong either way though, I imagine.
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At similar price points, I'd have a hard time saying no to the GTI. The VW is pretty nice inside as well.
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We went from a GTI to a Mazda3 GT; yes, the power of the GTI was nice, but the maintenance costs for a car with "only" 50,000 miles on the clock were pissing us off. I mean seriously, 4 water pumps (three on our dime) at $1,200 per, and 3 fuel pumps (costing us another $2,300) after such few miles, no thanks. The Mazda now has nearly that same number of miles and hasn't cost us a dime in unscheduled maintenance.
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How similarly priced at they when optioned out similarly? (3 vs. GTI)

I would think most people cross shopping the 3 would compare it to the Golf and not the GTI. As much as savagegeese sang praises for the 3, I think I would pass on it in favor of the GTI. Can't go wrong either way though, I imagine.
The closest in price point between the two is the GTI Rabbit Edition which is <$1k more in terms of MSRP. You lose out on some of the tech gadgets like adaptive cruise and what not but you gain 50hp and 75lbft of torque. Also you get sweet plaid seats with the Golf.

If you really want to directly compare the two feature for feature then you have to go to the Autobahn model which is quite a lot more expensive at ~$35k but you still retain the aforementioned power advantage.
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We went from a GTI to a Mazda3 GT; yes, the power of the GTI was nice, but the maintenance costs for a car with "only" 50,000 miles on the clock were pissing us off. I mean seriously, 4 water pumps (three on our dime) at $1,200 per, and 3 fuel pumps (costing us another $2,300) after such few miles, no thanks. The Mazda now has nearly that same number of miles and hasn't cost us a dime in unscheduled maintenance.
What year was your GTI?
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What year was your GTI?
I'm guessing 2015 or 2016. The plastic water pumps are a known issue - even on the 2018s. Kinda ridiculous that they didn't replace all of them under warranty in this instance (or goodwill them if outside of warranty).

But I agree with Costco - the average 3 buyer is not cross shopping it with a GTI.
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I'm guessing 2015 or 2016. The plastic water pumps are a known issue - even on the 2018s. Kinda ridiculous that they didn't replace all of them under warranty in this instance (or goodwill them if outside of warranty).

But I agree with Costco - the average 3 buyer is not cross shopping it with a GTI.
Oh I completely agree, the GTI is aimed at a different buyer but then again, so is the Golf. The Mazda3 is aimed at someone who wants luxury and good driving dynamics without the pricetag. The Golf is aimed at someone who wants economy and the pricetag associated with it while still being well built and having good driving dynamics. The article referenced was only comparing the MT versions of both cars. The difference is that the Golf (and the GTI) can be had with manual in any trim level so you can get a bare bones model for not a ton of money. The Mazda can only be had in manual at the top trim level and is, as such, expensive for an "economy car". If one were to get an auto, it can be a lot cheaper.

I didn't know about the water pump thing...thank god for 6/72 warranty!
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what year was your gti?
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Re: the water pumps, it's kind of an infuriating trend I have seen in particular manufacturers. I am sure there is some thermal and/or cost-related reason for doing it but I do not trust plastic cooling system components.
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VW and faulty plastic cooling components, name a better duo...
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Any British car + Lucas Electric
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Re: the water pumps, it's kind of an infuriating trend I have seen in particular manufacturers. I am sure there is some thermal and/or cost-related reason for doing it but I do not trust plastic cooling system components.
Depends on how old the car is. Modern plastics are easily able to handle the thermal and chemical attacks from coolant and heat without a problem. I wouldn't trust plastics from the early-mid 00's to do that.

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Depends on how old the car is. Modern plastics are easily able to handle the thermal and chemical attacks from coolant and heat without a problem. I wouldn't trust plastics from the early-mid 00's to do that.
Yeah but metal is better

Likewise, a modern car has much better metals than from two decades ago. I think time will tell. Engineers and bean counters may want one thing, but as a consumer I know what I prefer.
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When the third-generation Mazda3 was unveiled in 2013, we were more than pleased with what it delivered. The Mazda3 was the compact sedan we recommended. In 2014, it won a Big Test comparison against the Honda Civic, Hyundai Elantra, Kia Forte, and Toyota Corolla. But only a couple of years later we saw new generations of the Civic, Elantra, and Chevrolet Cruze, and the Mazda3 lost its crown. It came in fourth place in a follow-up comparison, losing to the three aforementioned sedans.

The 3 hadn't lost its magic, though; it simply slipped behind new and improved competition. With the debut of the fourth generation for the 2019 model year, we decided to pit it against our current favorite and Big Test winner: the 2019 Honda Civic.

Honda really changed the segment with the 10th-generation Civic when it arrived for the 2016 model year. The styling, technology, driving dynamics, and value helped the Civic get to the top, and it also brought a key ingredient that set it apart from its competitors: fun. For 2019, Honda made the Civic sleeker, adding updated headlights across the board and a black grille to the Touring model. Everything stayed the same under the hood, which means the 1.5-liter turbo-four engine still produces 174 hp and 162 lb-ft of torque, and the CVT sends all that power to the front wheels. Our Civic Touring had a price of $28,220.

On the other hand, Mazda decided to try something different with the new 3. The Hiroshima-based brand took its compact a step above and made the design and interior much more premium. "Take the logos off, and you'll think it's a luxury car," associate online editor Stefan Ogbac said. The new exterior is carefully crafted with crisp creases and details, and the updated interior has elegant lines and materials inspired by the most luxurious brands from Japan. Under the hood, Mazda updated the 2.5-liter four-cylinder engine to produce 186 hp and 186 lb-ft of torque. A six-speed automatic transmission sends all the power to the front wheels. All of that added luxury comes with a price: Our Mazda3 Premium package had a price tag of $29,415, or $1,195 more than our Civic Touring.

Mazda and Honda diverge with their interiors, even when we're comparing both brands' top-of-the-line models. The new 3's dash, door panels, and seats are appointed with nice soft-touch leather. Even rear passengers get soft-touch plastics, something Honda doesn't offer. "Another way I can actually buy into Mazda's latest premium push is with the edge of the center console, which has a leatherlike material," senior production editor Zach Gale said. "Sure, it's a little hard, but you can feel the softness with your hand or knee. Not expected at this price point." In terms of interior space, though, the Mazda falls short. The back seat feels tight, lacking both head- and legroom. Tall passengers have just enough space before their heads touch the headliner, and both Gale's and my knees were touching the seat back when the front seat was adjusted to our driving position. The Civic, on the other hand, feels cavernous and provides more than enough room for tall passengers.

We prefer Mazda's 8.8-inch screen over Honda's 7.0-inch screen, but we'd rather have Honda's touch-controlled infotainment system than Mazda's rotary knob. The Mazda3 has a head-up display and a bigger screen, and the display is located on top of the dashboard, making it easier for the driver to operate the screen without being distracted from the road. Ogbac, our resident infotainment-meister, described Mazda's system as "a step backward" for being a maze of menus. "It takes too many steps to change satellite radio stations—five or more at least," he said. "Using a knob is really distracting, taking your concentration away from the road."

On the other hand, although the Civic's infotainment is slow and looks a bit outdated, it's easier to control. Everything is well organized, and you can get to where you want easier. A volume knob is "new" for 2019, returning after a three-year absence. Both cars have Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. "I do wish you could get a larger touchscreen because the 7.0-inch looks tiny next to the Mazda3's 8.8-inch display," Ogbac said. "The upgraded audio system is pretty good, too, second best behind the Mazda's Bose unit."

The previous Mazda3's driving abilities made the vehicle one of our favorites. Mazda's powertrain was well calibrated, and it brought a sense of driving enjoyment other cars in its class didn't have. But for 2019 Mazda did things differently with the 3: It ditched the independent rear suspension for a cost-saving torsion beam, which dramatically changes the way it behaves on the road. "I felt more road imperfections in the Mazda than I did in the Honda," Gale said.

When driving over Portuguese Bend's broken pavement on the Palos Verdes Peninsula, the Mazda3's rear felt like it lost traction whenever we drove over a bump on a corner. "Get ready to feel the rear end skitter and jump around the moment you go over uneven pavement," Ogbac said. Once you drive over smooth pavement, the ride is refined, but the moment there's a bump or imperfection on the road, things go down.

We also weren't in love with the 2.5-liter engine. It has adequate power when you're going straight on flat surfaces, but when you try to merge on the freeway or go uphill, the powertrain struggles. Although the cabin is mostly quiet in normal driving situations, when you step on the gas, you'll hear a good roar from the engine. The updated engine made the compact sedan 0.1 second faster than the last Mazda3 we tested, getting from 0 to 60 mph in 7.3 seconds. One other nitpick with the Mazda3: Its brake pedal was hard to predict, feeling like you needed to press down hard in order to come to a stop. This was also noticeable at the track, where testing director Kim Reynolds had a hard time with the braking during the figure-eight test.

On the other hand, the Civic felt pretty familiar with its punchy 1.5-liter turbo, which doesn't exert itself much to go uphill or merge onto the freeway. Although we've complained about the loud CVT, it works smoothly and generally does a good job. We also prefer it over the Mazda's six-speed, which showed some jerkiness at low driving speeds. Its independent rear suspension tackles most road imperfections before you feel any vibrations in the cabin, and when the bumps are big, the springs and shocks get to work to keep cabin movement to a minimum. The Civic also feels planted in the corners, showing low body roll and also providing a fun driving experience. "Its steering is also really quick and direct, giving the driver a connected feel on the road and letting you know exactly what the front wheels are doing," Ogbac said.

At the track, the Civic showed slightly better numbers than the Mazda, getting from 0 to 60 mph in 7.0 seconds and completing the quarter mile in 15.4 seconds at 90.8 mph (15.7 seconds at 90.3 mph for the Mazda3). Our Honda also had better braking numbers from 60 to 0 mph—115 feet over the Mazda's 117 feet.

For 2019, every Civic comes standard with the Honda Sensing safety technologies suite. Customers get adaptive cruise control, lane keep assist, automatic emergency braking, and other additional techs. During our drive, the lane keep assist and adaptive cruise control worked really well on the highway; the Civic kept a good distance between the car in front of us and read the lane marks correctly. "Honda Sensing is the best suite here," Ogbac said. But one thing we missed on the Civic was bling-spot monitoring; the Honda still uses the outdated LaneWatch, which displays a camera view of the car's right side on the infotainment screen when the right turning signal is on. For the driver's side, there are no alerts or any kind of monitoring. Gale, however, still preferred LaneWatch over blind-spot monitoring.

Mazda, on the other hand, falls short on the list of safety technologies, as the 3 doesn't even get automatic emergency braking standard. To get comparable safety tech on the Mazda3, you'll have to opt for the Select package; the Select package includes lane keep assist, lane departure warning, driver attention alert, and Mazda's Smart City Brake Support with pedestrian detection (among others). Although our Mazda3 with the Premium package had these options, we weren't as pleased with the way they worked. Lane keep assist only intervened when the car had gone over the lane on the highway, and the adaptive cruise control left such a long following distance that we kept getting cut off.

The final decision in this comparison wasn't difficult. Although the new 3 has great styling and a premium interior, the changes made to its suspension and powertrain and its lack of standard safety technologies kept it from earning top honors. The new Mazda3 is still fun to drive, but it doesn't have the same character it used to. If you're cross-shopping between these two cars, you should also know that the Mazda has worse fuel economy numbers.

The Civic, on the other hand, continues to deliver on everything it promises. It can be sporty when you want it to be fun and quiet when you need a peaceful ride. Its value, standard equipment, and interior space are superior to Mazda's, and it simply continues to be the best car in its class.

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Not the verdict I expected.
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I'm still holding out hope they'll drop the 2.5T into the Mazda3; that coupled to a 6-Speed Manual should make for a pretty fun car.
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I'd be surprised if they put the 6MT behind it, but even with the 6AT, it would be a blast.
That engine works well in the Mz6, so in the lighter Mz3,
Plus, with the 3 having AWD as an option, and the CX5 can be had with the 2.5T + AWD....
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Mazdaspeed 6 when?

Mazdaspeed 3 when?

Mazdaspeed MX-5 when?

RX-9 when?
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Never.

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Gonna happen.
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Shifting from indep rear suspension to torsion beam was an understandable (cost cutting) decision, but still a mistake IMO.
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RCR on the 3rd gen (BM) Mz3 .... "torque-less engine"


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SkyActiv-X is a brand new, spark controlled compression ignition (SPCCI) engine that has been under development at Mazda since 2015. The firm proudly insists that it’s the first true compression ignition petrol powered engine ready for production. It’s a petrol engine that uses intense pressure to combust the fuel-air mixture, like you would find in a diesel engine. Spark plugs remain in place as a control factor, but in the simplest terms, the aim is petrol performance and responsiveness with diesel fuel economy.

The engine makes its debut here in the latest Mazda 3 - a car we’ve already heaped plenty of praise on for its style, upmarket quality, strong levels of refinement and, more than anything else, for the way it drives. It’s a brilliant family hatchback to find yourself behind the wheel of, but the car’s launch engines lacked a little sparkle. That’s a gap Mazda hopes the new engine can bridge when it lands in the UK this October.

It’s also technology that Mazda’s dealers may have a hard time explaining to customers. Ultimately, how the SkyActiv-X engine feels to drive in the Mazda 3 is what will sell it, and while this car gains some much needed performance over the 122bhp SkyActiv-G with 187bhp and 224Nm of torque, it’s still a very different proposition to the turbocharged options that have become the norm in this segment.


Start the car cold and it idles quietly like a petrol - nothing unusual here. But get on the move and the quirks and character of this brand new engine begin to become apparent.

The engine uses a supercharger to ram as much air into the fuel-air mixture as possible to achieve that lean burn, but Mazda’s engineers have focussed on trying to create a naturally aspirated feel to the way the engine responds and delivers its power. By and large, this is exactly how it feels.

Peak torque of 224Nm is still down a little on turbo cars such as TSI engined Golfs and the EcoBoost fitted Ford Focus, but while those cars dump the torque low down the rev band, the Mazda still requires revving out, building slowly from idle in a linear fashion to a sweet spot at around 3,000rpm where maximum power sits. From there it revs out comfortably to 6,500rpm, but it takes its time - the gearing feels quite long, and sixth is a cruising gear undoubtedly.

As the revs rise the engine note changes too. From a petrol-like idle the sound begins to mimic a diesel knock when the engine is turning over around that 3,000rpm peak torque zone, then the sound transforms back to a smoother petrol note as you get into the higher reaches of the rev band. A menu on the slick infotainment system can show you when the car is operating in SPCCI mode, and it shows that there really isn’t a certain speed or rev zone required to achieve this - just keep the car at a steady pace and eventually it’ll settle back into performing its party trick.




What does that mean for fuel economy? In the manual car we threw caution to the wind to try and unpick the secrets of the new engine, only averaging 28mpg but making full use of the derestricted autobahn on our test route. A more realistic drive in an automatic SkyActiv-X equipped 3 threw up 40mpg on the trip computer, so stick with the excellent six-speed manual gearbox and 40+ without really trying is probably what you’re looking at.

Does that really move the game on from the turbocharged opposition? Not really, based on our first, somewhat unscientific taste of the technology. It seems as if the SkyActiv-X car won’t be hugely more economical to run than the cheaper SkyActiv-G either. But, importantly, it is a much better performer, and almost certainly the car to budget for. The more powerful engine loses a little refinement, but finally the Mazda 3’s excellent chassis and steering have a whiff of performance to exploit.
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mazda/...-x-2019-review
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& nothing new to us.
Unless they do a Mazda3 Signature with the 2.5T. But odds are it'd be 6AT only, with AWD & quite expensive compared to its likely more sporty rivals.

https://www.motor1.com/news/359964/m...ful-hot-hatch/

Mazda has rightfully earned a lot of praise over the last few years. People have commended the company for its new design language, interior fit and finish, and performance, and yet, the Japanese automaker hasn't treaded into familiar waters with a new Mazdaspeed model. While Mazda is capable of building an engine capable of such power demands for the Mazda3, the automaker has no plans to do so, according to Hiroyuki Matsumoto, Mazda's head of global development and product planning, in an interview with Cars Guide.

The news is disheartening for Mazdaspeed enthusiasts who are eager for the company to take aim at the VW Golf GTI, Honda Civic Type R, and others in the hot-hatch segment. Instead, customers will have to rely on the aftermarket scene for more power and performance. It was twelve years ago when Mazda released the Mazdaspeed3, but it didn't stick around for long, bowing out after the 2013 model year when a new Mazda3 generation debuted.

The publication notes Mazda peeps from the UK to Australia have stated a desire to see its employer resurrect a proper hot-hatch offering. But the company has no plans to produce it. This could be a ploy to keep rabid keyboard speculators at bay, but Mazda is a significantly smaller company when stacked against VW and Honda. Investing in a niche performance vehicle as the company pours money into new engine technologies such as its SkyActiv-X engine while also developing hybrids and electric vehicles makes little financial sense.

Would we love to see Mazda resurrect the Mazdaspeed nameplate for a new model? Of course, who wouldn't? But the company has been adamant about having no plans to do so. However, that doesn't mean the company can't change its mind down the road. Hatchbacks don't get the love they used to due to the growing popularity of crossovers. Maybe a Mazdaspeed CX-3 would be more appropriate.
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