Mazda: CX-5 News
#42
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^ Based on the Mazda2/Demio, so smaller than the 3. Great if you don't have kids & want a compact SUV.
#45
I think I like the exterior of the face lift 1G more than this, however the interior of the 2G is amazing. I also spy a heated steering wheel button which is ALWAYS welcome up here. Overall a very upscale interior, not sure how I feel about that floating screen. The 1G CX5 actually has a really nice quality interior (soft materials everywhere) and I read in the press release that the 2G has even more soft materials. Overall well done.
My one MAJOR let down is the absence of the turbo 2.5. Mazda was saying it could fit in there a little while back. I thought it was a hint for the release of the 2G CX5.
My one MAJOR let down is the absence of the turbo 2.5. Mazda was saying it could fit in there a little while back. I thought it was a hint for the release of the 2G CX5.
#46
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^ The updated Mazda3 gained the heated steering wheel as well. I like the new design on the CX, a nice blend of the 3 & 9.
Would be nice to see that 2.5T make its way into more models. CX5 & M6 would be good candidates. Mazdaspeed or some trim above GT would work. But would be expensive, I'm sure.
Would be nice to see that 2.5T make its way into more models. CX5 & M6 would be good candidates. Mazdaspeed or some trim above GT would work. But would be expensive, I'm sure.
#47
^ The updated Mazda3 gained the heated steering wheel as well. I like the new design on the CX, a nice blend of the 3 & 9.
Would be nice to see that 2.5T make its way into more models. CX5 & M6 would be good candidates. Mazdaspeed or some trim above GT would work. But would be expensive, I'm sure.
Would be nice to see that 2.5T make its way into more models. CX5 & M6 would be good candidates. Mazdaspeed or some trim above GT would work. But would be expensive, I'm sure.
The 2.5T is necessary in the M6, the current M6 is almost lethargic. I also think they should return the mazdaspeed line and yes it might be more expensive but it also creates a halo car for each model which helps sell the lower models surprisingly. The current CX5 hits 60 in around 7.5s which is alright. Now if it had the 2.5T I could EASILY see it hitting 60 in 5.5s.
#48
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Agreed.
Though it's been a while since I was last in a M6, I don't recall it feeling lethargic, though I drove a Touring with the 6MT. Felt as quick as my 2G TL.
I think it'll be 2018+ before we see anything Mazdaspeed.
Though it's been a while since I was last in a M6, I don't recall it feeling lethargic, though I drove a Touring with the 6MT. Felt as quick as my 2G TL.
I think it'll be 2018+ before we see anything Mazdaspeed.
#49
I think the manual may have helped curb it. The Auto is almost lethargic. Honestly though I really dislike this trend of small forced induction engines. I like V6's and V8's.
#50
Only had two people and some luggage in the car, but it had no problems accelerating uphill on fairly steep inclines (the famous grapevine in LA). For a time that particular stretch of highway was known to cause cars to break down... the signs that say "TURN OFF AIR CONDITIONER" still remain. Had no problem maintaining 70-75 mph on that grade, though the engine made quite a bit of racket.
The standard shift logic in the automatic is geared for fuel economy, you can always put it in sport or even manually "gate shift" it and the transmission plays nicely. I could imagine the CX-5 possibly having some trouble though.
#51
Everyone's perception is different... to me it was perfect for a commuter, but no doubt the chassis could handle more power no problem.
Only had two people and some luggage in the car, but it had no problems accelerating uphill on fairly steep inclines (the famous grapevine in LA). For a time that particular stretch of highway was known to cause cars to break down... the signs that say "TURN OFF AIR CONDITIONER" still remain. Had no problem maintaining 70-75 mph on that grade, though the engine made quite a bit of racket.
The standard shift logic in the automatic is geared for fuel economy, you can always put it in sport or even manually "gate shift" it and the transmission plays nicely. I could imagine the CX-5 possibly having some trouble though.
Only had two people and some luggage in the car, but it had no problems accelerating uphill on fairly steep inclines (the famous grapevine in LA). For a time that particular stretch of highway was known to cause cars to break down... the signs that say "TURN OFF AIR CONDITIONER" still remain. Had no problem maintaining 70-75 mph on that grade, though the engine made quite a bit of racket.
The standard shift logic in the automatic is geared for fuel economy, you can always put it in sport or even manually "gate shift" it and the transmission plays nicely. I could imagine the CX-5 possibly having some trouble though.
The one ither thing I have to give mazda is their excellent steering and body control, very very good and honestly the mazda 6 is a really really nice looking car to boot. Would love a 6mt or dsg M6 with the 2.5T and AWD.
#52
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^ And with a few of the Mazda tuners, those numbers are just a good base.
OVTune has a 2.0 Miata up to 185hp on 95 octane, up from the stock 155hp, with just a full exhaust.
OVTune has a 2.0 Miata up to 185hp on 95 octane, up from the stock 155hp, with just a full exhaust.
#53
Really? 30hp gain in a NA small engine like that is really good honestly. I am very impressed with the new miata overall, very very well balanced and good car. Good for Mazda for surviving the ford kiss of death. Still missing saab.
#54
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Longtube header/midpipe/race exhaust & a tune; on 95 octane.
I think it was more in the low 170s in 91 octane; had to do with ECU torque limiting, supposedly resolved.
I think it was more in the low 170s in 91 octane; had to do with ECU torque limiting, supposedly resolved.
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#56
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CX-5 getting the CX-9 treatment.
#57
Manuel too, in an SUV... that's great
#58
I'm really not liking the SUPER long nose look. But I have to hand it to them on that interior. Well done!
#59
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#61
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^ Right, but that's also a EU market model. US only gets the manual on the lowly Sport.
#62
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Mazda Will No Longer Sell You A Manual CX-5 And I'm Not Even Mad
" Hey did you hear? You no longer have a three pedal option in a front-wheel-drive crossover that you didn’t want to buy anyway. That’s right Mazda, purveyor of zoom-zoom will no longer let you row your own on the all new 2017 CX-5."
" Hey did you hear? You no longer have a three pedal option in a front-wheel-drive crossover that you didn’t want to buy anyway. That’s right Mazda, purveyor of zoom-zoom will no longer let you row your own on the all new 2017 CX-5."
#63
#64
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^ May be that they're dropping the 2.0 option from it
Curious what the take rate is for the 2.0 CX-5, since the 2.5 is also available in the Sport.
Curious what the take rate is for the 2.0 CX-5, since the 2.5 is also available in the Sport.
#65
I'd imagine only those with the lowest budget would take the 2.0. The performance increase with the 2.5 from the 2.0 is like night and day. 0-60 goes from 9.5s iirc to 7.5s. That is a HUGE jump IMHO for only 40hp and roughiy 50 lb/ft increase and is totally worth it to me. Mazda teased that the 2.5T could fit in the engine bay...god how I wish they would do it. It would make it VERY competitive in the top end of it's class (i.e 2.0t escape, forester, santa fe sport) vs competeing with the 195hp crv and 180hp rav4.
#66
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^
I drove a really early 2.0 auto CX5 & was pretty disappointed with the performance.
Especially compared to how quick the 6MT 2.5 Mazda6 & Mazda3 felt.
I've, too, heard that the 2.5T will fit in the CX5 and the Mazda6 (maybe Mazda3). Question is, will they do it? I haven't driven the CX9, but have heard it's pretty good with the 2.5T.
I drove a really early 2.0 auto CX5 & was pretty disappointed with the performance.
Especially compared to how quick the 6MT 2.5 Mazda6 & Mazda3 felt.
I've, too, heard that the 2.5T will fit in the CX5 and the Mazda6 (maybe Mazda3). Question is, will they do it? I haven't driven the CX9, but have heard it's pretty good with the 2.5T.
#67
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I drove a really early 2.0 auto CX5 & was pretty disappointed with the performance.
Especially compared to how quick the 6MT 2.5 Mazda6 & Mazda3 felt.
I've, too, heard that the 2.5T will fit in the CX5 and the Mazda6 (maybe Mazda3). Question is, will they do it? I haven't driven the CX9, but have heard it's pretty good with the 2.5T.
I drove a really early 2.0 auto CX5 & was pretty disappointed with the performance.
Especially compared to how quick the 6MT 2.5 Mazda6 & Mazda3 felt.
I've, too, heard that the 2.5T will fit in the CX5 and the Mazda6 (maybe Mazda3). Question is, will they do it? I haven't driven the CX9, but have heard it's pretty good with the 2.5T.
Hot hatches are selling like hot cakes (pun HEAVILY intended) and a mazda3 with the 2.5t or even a 2.0t would sell VERY well.
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#68
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I don't disagree. I think part of the holdback is the fact that they don't (assumption) have the finances that someone like Ford does, to be able to introduce a MazdaSpeed variant. That, and maybe the brand doesn't quite have the clout to pull in buyers of a $40k car, considering a loaded M6GT is near $36k
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#69
I don't disagree. I think part of the holdback is the fact that they don't (assumption) have the finances that someone like Ford does, to be able to introduce a MazdaSpeed variant. That, and maybe the brand doesn't quite have the clout to pull in buyers of a $40k car, considering a loaded M6GT is near $36k
#70
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Again, we agree. I'd love to see some new MS variants. Tough risk though, if they just sit on lots because people say they'll buy them, but no one shows up with their wallets open.
Then again, the Fusion Sport is pretty much on its own with no competitor, other than maybe the WRX/STi, but not sure if those 2 would be cross shopped.
#72
Again, we agree. I'd love to see some new MS variants. Tough risk though, if they just sit on lots because people say they'll buy them, but no one shows up with their wallets open.
Then again, the Fusion Sport is pretty much on its own with no competitor, other than maybe the WRX/STi, but not sure if those 2 would be cross shopped.
you said earlier, this is a much smaller company than ford and doesn't have money to throw around.
#73
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Also, in the CX9, I'm sure the 2.5T is tuned for more 'truck' like, low end power. Not really a performance oriented application.
I'm sure it won't be long before someone drops the 2.5T in the 6 or 3 & gets someone like OVTune to try their hand at it.
#74
#75
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Is the Mazda CX-5 About to Go Turbocharged? - The Truth About Cars
Where would Mazda be without the hot-selling CX-5? Of the 29,980 vehicles Mazda sold in the U.S. last month, 47.3 percent of them were CX-5s. Suffice it to say the stylish compact crossover is the brand’s most important model, regardless of what MX-5 fans would have you believe.
Parents everywhere applauded when a crisper, better-handling CX-5 appeared for 2017, content in knowing a family vehicle existed that wouldn’t relegate them to a world of bland conformity. Our own Chris Tonn was enraptured by the sight of his Grand Touring tester as it sat in an Ohio parking lot. Still, despite its on-road prowess, the zoom-zoom brand’s most popular offering isn’t exactly a pavement scorcher. That might not be the case for long.
According to a certification document from the California Air Resources Board (CARB), Mazda might offer the 2019 CX-5 with the turbocharged 2.5-liter four-cylinder found in its larger CX-9 sibling. The doc shows emissions results from a 2.5-liter four boasting direct injection and forced induction, with its applications listed as the 2019 CX-5 and CX-9.
In the 2018 CX-9, this engine generates 227 horsepower and 310 lb-ft of torque. Currently, CX-5 buyers choose from a 2.0-liter Skyactiv four-cylinder making 156 hp and 150 lb-ft, or a naturally aspirated 2.5-liter with 187 hp and 186 lb-ft. A delayed diesel’s on the way. Should Mazda grace us with a hot rod variant of its compact ute, buyers can expect a two-thirds increase in twist compared to the existing top-line powerplant.
Maybe it’s too much to ask that it come with a stick shift.
Of course, Mazda doesn’t make a habit of commenting on future products, and this case is no exception. We’re left to wait and see if our crossover dreams come true.
Sales of the CX-5 in America haven’t waned once during its time on the market. Each year since its 2012 debut saw more and more buyers line up at their local dealer, ready to fill Mazda’s coffers. This May saw the crossover’s sales rise 19.9 percent, year over year, with volume over the first five months of 2018 up a generous 43.7 percent.
Parents everywhere applauded when a crisper, better-handling CX-5 appeared for 2017, content in knowing a family vehicle existed that wouldn’t relegate them to a world of bland conformity. Our own Chris Tonn was enraptured by the sight of his Grand Touring tester as it sat in an Ohio parking lot. Still, despite its on-road prowess, the zoom-zoom brand’s most popular offering isn’t exactly a pavement scorcher. That might not be the case for long.
According to a certification document from the California Air Resources Board (CARB), Mazda might offer the 2019 CX-5 with the turbocharged 2.5-liter four-cylinder found in its larger CX-9 sibling. The doc shows emissions results from a 2.5-liter four boasting direct injection and forced induction, with its applications listed as the 2019 CX-5 and CX-9.
In the 2018 CX-9, this engine generates 227 horsepower and 310 lb-ft of torque. Currently, CX-5 buyers choose from a 2.0-liter Skyactiv four-cylinder making 156 hp and 150 lb-ft, or a naturally aspirated 2.5-liter with 187 hp and 186 lb-ft. A delayed diesel’s on the way. Should Mazda grace us with a hot rod variant of its compact ute, buyers can expect a two-thirds increase in twist compared to the existing top-line powerplant.
Maybe it’s too much to ask that it come with a stick shift.
Of course, Mazda doesn’t make a habit of commenting on future products, and this case is no exception. We’re left to wait and see if our crossover dreams come true.
Sales of the CX-5 in America haven’t waned once during its time on the market. Each year since its 2012 debut saw more and more buyers line up at their local dealer, ready to fill Mazda’s coffers. This May saw the crossover’s sales rise 19.9 percent, year over year, with volume over the first five months of 2018 up a generous 43.7 percent.
#76
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https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/m...rtain-airbags/
Thankfully, the issue is limited to a small number of vehicles.
As much praise as we may heap on some cars, they're still not immune to recalls. Case in point, the Mazda CX-5.
Mazda has issued a recall for 682 examples of the 2018 CX-5 SUV. The problem stems from a manufacturing error. Some vehicles may have side curtain airbags that, due to this error, might not inflate correctly in the event of a crash. Mazda says that this may increase the risk of injury to passengers involved in rollovers that require curtain airbag deployment.
Thankfully, the automaker has received no reports of accidents or injuries stemming from this issue.
Given the small number of vehicles affected -- representing about 4.8 percent of a single month's worth of sales -- it's safe to say that Mazda quickly caught and remedied the issue. It did not lay out a specific repair plan, but when the time comes, owners will have to make a trip to the dealer to have the repair applied for free. Owners will receive a notification via first-class mail.
Aside from the recall, the Mazda CX-5 has proven to be an exceedingly safe vehicle. In 2017, the CX-5 earned the IIHS' highest honor, Top Safety Pick+. That was downgraded in 2018 to the second-best Top Safety Pick, because that was the year that the IIHS started including headlight ratings in its rankings, and the best the CX-5 could muster in that category was an "Acceptable" rating.
As much praise as we may heap on some cars, they're still not immune to recalls. Case in point, the Mazda CX-5.
Mazda has issued a recall for 682 examples of the 2018 CX-5 SUV. The problem stems from a manufacturing error. Some vehicles may have side curtain airbags that, due to this error, might not inflate correctly in the event of a crash. Mazda says that this may increase the risk of injury to passengers involved in rollovers that require curtain airbag deployment.
Thankfully, the automaker has received no reports of accidents or injuries stemming from this issue.
Given the small number of vehicles affected -- representing about 4.8 percent of a single month's worth of sales -- it's safe to say that Mazda quickly caught and remedied the issue. It did not lay out a specific repair plan, but when the time comes, owners will have to make a trip to the dealer to have the repair applied for free. Owners will receive a notification via first-class mail.
Aside from the recall, the Mazda CX-5 has proven to be an exceedingly safe vehicle. In 2017, the CX-5 earned the IIHS' highest honor, Top Safety Pick+. That was downgraded in 2018 to the second-best Top Safety Pick, because that was the year that the IIHS started including headlight ratings in its rankings, and the best the CX-5 could muster in that category was an "Acceptable" rating.
#77
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https://jalopnik.com/epa-claims-the-...9-m-1828205341
Mazda has been promising the U.S. a diesel engine for nearly a decade now, but year after year has passed and still no diesel. Now, with the EPA releasing ratings for a 2.2-liter Skyactiv-D diesel CX-5, the prospect of a diesel Mazda is finally feeling real. Here’s how the car did in EPA testing.
The table below shows how the compression ignition Mazda scores according the EPA’s official website, with front-drive and all-wheel drive 2018 models on the left side, and gas models shown on the right for comparison:
That’s 28 city, 31 highway, 29 MPG combined for the front-drive CX-5 and 27 city, 30 highway and 28 combined for the all-wheel drive model. Comparatively, the 2.5-liter naturally aspirated gas motor scores 3 MPG lower in the city, but the same ratings on the highway.
The gas engine makes 187 horsepower and 186 lb-ft of torque. As for how much the 2.2-liter diesel will make in a U.S.-spec CX-5, we don’t know yet. In Europe, the motor puts out about 148 horsepower and 280 lb-ft of torque. Update: It’s worth noting that there’s also a 173 horsepower, 310 lb-ft 2.2-liter diesel CX-5 available in Europe.
God I hope the U.S.-spec model gets that much twist.
These ratings, which I assume came out recently (I’m not sure exactly when), are a big deal because a diesel Mazda has been a long time coming. In late 2016, we reported an Automotive News story that included claims from Mazda’s CEO, Masamichi Kogai, that Mazda was for real bringing the 2.2-liter Skyactiv-D diesel to the U.S., and that it would arrive in late 2017 in a CX-5.
This followed a number of promises over the years, including one in 2010for a release date of 2012 in a Mazda6. Then a diesel Mazda6 actually showed up in 2012 at the LA Auto Show, after which the diesel was delayed until 2014.
After all these years, there’s still no diesel Mazda in the U.S., but the fact that there are official fuel economy ratings is definitely a good sign. I asked Mazda when the car will actually hit the market, but a spokesperson just gave me the standard line: “Mazda is committed to bringing diesel to the North American market.”
So who knows when this is actually going to happen. But maybe soon? Ish?
The table below shows how the compression ignition Mazda scores according the EPA’s official website, with front-drive and all-wheel drive 2018 models on the left side, and gas models shown on the right for comparison:
That’s 28 city, 31 highway, 29 MPG combined for the front-drive CX-5 and 27 city, 30 highway and 28 combined for the all-wheel drive model. Comparatively, the 2.5-liter naturally aspirated gas motor scores 3 MPG lower in the city, but the same ratings on the highway.
The gas engine makes 187 horsepower and 186 lb-ft of torque. As for how much the 2.2-liter diesel will make in a U.S.-spec CX-5, we don’t know yet. In Europe, the motor puts out about 148 horsepower and 280 lb-ft of torque. Update: It’s worth noting that there’s also a 173 horsepower, 310 lb-ft 2.2-liter diesel CX-5 available in Europe.
God I hope the U.S.-spec model gets that much twist.
These ratings, which I assume came out recently (I’m not sure exactly when), are a big deal because a diesel Mazda has been a long time coming. In late 2016, we reported an Automotive News story that included claims from Mazda’s CEO, Masamichi Kogai, that Mazda was for real bringing the 2.2-liter Skyactiv-D diesel to the U.S., and that it would arrive in late 2017 in a CX-5.
This followed a number of promises over the years, including one in 2010for a release date of 2012 in a Mazda6. Then a diesel Mazda6 actually showed up in 2012 at the LA Auto Show, after which the diesel was delayed until 2014.
After all these years, there’s still no diesel Mazda in the U.S., but the fact that there are official fuel economy ratings is definitely a good sign. I asked Mazda when the car will actually hit the market, but a spokesperson just gave me the standard line: “Mazda is committed to bringing diesel to the North American market.”
So who knows when this is actually going to happen. But maybe soon? Ish?
#79
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^ I've seen rumors of the 6/CX9 turbo being put into the CX5, nothing concrete though. Would dramatically improve the drive though, same in the 3.