Lexus: LFA News
01-17-2012, 07:22 PM
#761
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Speculation on the LFA Roadster that made a showing recently from Autoblog: http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/13/l...e-drift-event/
If top-down motoring is your cup of tea, there are few droptops that could elicit as many smiles per sun-drenched hour than the long-rumored Lexus LFA Roadster. We first saw the V10-powered 552-horsepower machine at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show, but the automaker has kept its lips firmly sealed on the potential of a production version since that showing.
Interestingly enough, though, it appears that Toyota's luxury division may not be done trotting proproduction LFA Roadsters around the auto show circuit. As can be seen in the video after the break, the Lexus droptop stunner made an appearance at the most recent Tokyo Auto Salon, where it took part in an exhibition run for the D1GP Kick Off Drift event.
Here's where things get a little murky. We have no idea if this is a factory-made LFA Roadster – it could be a custom job, or it could be the same exact car Lexus showed off in Detroit four years ago, albeit wearing a new coat of white paint and an unfortunate rollbar. Whatever the case, you can see exactly how easily the V10-powered machine can smoke its rear tires after the break.
Interestingly enough, though, it appears that Toyota's luxury division may not be done trotting proproduction LFA Roadsters around the auto show circuit. As can be seen in the video after the break, the Lexus droptop stunner made an appearance at the most recent Tokyo Auto Salon, where it took part in an exhibition run for the D1GP Kick Off Drift event.
Here's where things get a little murky. We have no idea if this is a factory-made LFA Roadster – it could be a custom job, or it could be the same exact car Lexus showed off in Detroit four years ago, albeit wearing a new coat of white paint and an unfortunate rollbar. Whatever the case, you can see exactly how easily the V10-powered machine can smoke its rear tires after the break.
02-10-2012, 12:49 PM
#762
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there are ***FOUR*** LFA's on display at the Chicago auto show!! 
just seems overkill.
just seems overkill.
02-10-2012, 12:55 PM
#763
The sizzle in the Steak
02-10-2012, 01:04 PM
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02-10-2012, 01:28 PM
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02-10-2012, 02:03 PM
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The sizzle in the Steak
Nice pic! 
02-10-2012, 07:33 PM
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I drive a Subata.
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Love it.
02-25-2012, 02:07 PM
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The LF-A is on the cover of the February 27, 2012 issue of FORTUNE.
But, don't forget - it's not an effective Halo car.
But, don't forget - it's not an effective Halo car.
02-25-2012, 02:16 PM
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nice cover!
06-26-2012, 09:58 AM
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Lexus planning new version of their LFA supercar.
When Lexus first rolled out their LFA supercar back in 2009, we couldn't stop gushing about its terrific looks or its excellent 552hp 4.8-liter V10. It's not like the LFA needed a superior version, so when the Japanese company rolled out their Nurburgring Edition LFA, we almost made a mess in our pants.Well, apparently Lexus is going even a step further in the development of the flagship LFA, as the original was meant to be produced in a limited run of only 500 units.
This new edition spotted testing at high speeds on the Nurburgring, features quad exhaust tips in the rear, replacing the standard's center-mounted three. The reason for this change, you ask? To make room for a much larger diffuser integrated into the rear bumper.The new hood has been left unpainted for a raw carbon fiber look, while an additional air intake allows that mighty V10 to breathe a bit better. New spoilers have been added to the trunk-lid.We are assuming that this LFA will be a very powerful final version of the flagship supercar. We don't know what it will be called, however there are "AD-A" letters on each side of this prototype so that could give a clue. Maybe the "Last Edition" or "Final Edition" perhaps? Time will tell what Lexus has in store for their supercar, and we can't wait to find out.
06-26-2012, 12:14 PM
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Because it's a master piece.
06-26-2012, 12:27 PM
#776
The sizzle in the Steak
I swear we have an LFA thread around here somewhere....
06-26-2012, 11:49 PM
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Merged.
Please look for an existing thread of the model car, folks!
Please look for an existing thread of the model car, folks!
06-27-2012, 09:39 AM
#779
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Aren't those quad pipes where the fans used to be? What happened to the fans? We don't need no stinkin' fans?
06-27-2012, 10:15 AM
#780
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looks amazing, love the winglets and intakes up front! and fans, exhausts, its all the same thing in the end. put 'em wherever. 
06-27-2012, 10:36 AM
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Har har dar dar folks!
06-27-2012, 03:37 PM
#782
Nice car but why buy it over an Aventador or Ferrari F12? 1st world problems I know.
06-27-2012, 03:59 PM
#783
I suppose someone who buys this would already have the other 2 in the garage.
07-25-2012, 01:46 AM
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this guy is BOOKING!
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07-25-2012, 10:09 AM
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07-25-2012, 11:10 AM
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eh I got one on order chump change 
Just waiting for the driveway quotes.
Just waiting for the driveway quotes.
07-25-2012, 11:43 AM
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11-03-2012, 02:10 AM
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2013 Lexus LFA Nurburgring Edition White
Press release...
The Nürburgring Package builds on the track-ready LFA supercar with styling inspiration from the 24 Hours of Nürburgring prototype LFA race car. The 4.8L V10 engine for Nürburgring Package equipped LFA’s will produce 562 horsepower, 10 more horsepower than the standard high-performance LFA. The gear-shift time has been reduced by 0.05 seconds to only 0.15 seconds for even faster gear changes. The Nürburgring Package is limited to only 50 units out of the 500 LFA hand-assembled for global distribution.
Highlights
• Sport-tuned suspension
• Black mesh-type wheels
• Larger front spoiler
• Fixed rear wing
• Carbon fiber center console and door trim
• Four exterior colors: Whitest White, Orange, Black and Matte Black
Highlights
• Sport-tuned suspension
• Black mesh-type wheels
• Larger front spoiler
• Fixed rear wing
• Carbon fiber center console and door trim
• Four exterior colors: Whitest White, Orange, Black and Matte Black
11-03-2012, 02:12 AM
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11-04-2012, 08:15 AM
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Believe it or not, that wing isn't horrible. Nice looking car. Still waiting for my allocation dealer says December 2032 
01-09-2013, 06:54 AM
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Safety Car
Carbon Fiber
The soaring Japanese yen has killed any hope of launching a variant of the money-losing, carbon-fiber Lexus LFA sports car, at least for now, Toyota Motor Corp. officials say.
When the last $375,000 LFA was built here Dec. 14, Toyota was left with a very costly and sophisticated -- yet nearly idle -- carbon-fiber factory.
Now, engineers are looking for ways to repurpose the plant and channel the company's newfound carbon-fiber expertise into other products. For the 1st time, Toyota is planning to use the expensive, high-tech material in a car besides the LFA.
In October 2010, Toyota opened the carbon-fiber plant inside its Motomachi complex to make jet-black, superstrong yet lightweight carbon-fiber components for the LFA. About 65% of the LFA's body, by weight, is carbon fiber.
Since the 1st LFA was built on Dec. 15, 2010, observers have speculated that Lexus would follow the initial limited edition of 500 vehicles with another car, perhaps a roadster.
The LFA was never expected to turn a profit. It was envisioned as a halo car to show that Lexus engineering could compete in the rarified supercars league.
Midway through development, the chief engineer, Haruhiko Tanahashi, ditched plans for an aluminum body, opting instead for carbon fiber, a swap that assured the car's stratospheric cost base.
"At 1 time, there were informal talks about another project to follow here after the current LFA project finishes," 1 Toyota official, who declined to be named, said during a visit to the workshop while the LFA was still being painstakingly hand-assembled there. "But the current business environment is too poor."
The main problem: the yen's strength.
When the project was authorized for commercialization in November 2005, the yen stood at 118 to the dollar. When the production version was shown at the Tokyo Motor Show in October 2009, the dollar had fallen to 89 yen. Since then, the rising yen has spiraled as high as 75 to the dollar, though it has settled recently at around 85 yen. That level represents a roughly 30% swing in currency rates, all to the negative as far as Toyota is concerned and compounding losses for the made-in-Japan car.
Still, Toyota says its carbon-fiber experiment can pay off because know-how gained on the LFA can be applied elsewhere. Aside from making spare parts for the LFA, the in-house mill will soon start pressing carbon fiber for other models.
Those carbon-fiber components are expected to show up in other products in the Lexus and Toyota lineups.
But that hasn't happened yet. The LFA is currently the only Toyota or Lexus car that uses carbon fiber. And Toyota would not identify any other Lexus vehicle that is slated to get carbon-fiber components.
Automakers are increasingly considering carbon fiber -- particularly for hoods, roofs, trunk lids and aerodynamic parts such as spoilers -- as an option as they seek to cut weight from vehicles to boost fuel economy. The material is stronger and lighter than steel. The LFA's carbon-fiber body weighs just 193 kilograms, or 425 pounds.
But it is also extremely expensive. Cost relegates it mostly to the league of exotic sports cars. If more manufacturers used carbon fiber, the cost would come down. But until the price comes down, they won't widely use it.
Toyota approached carbon-fiber production as it has other manufacturing technologies: It brought the process in-house to see whether the famed Toyota Production System could eke out efficiencies.
Behind the doors
A peek behind the doors of the LFA Works when it was still in operation showed why the LFA and its carbon-fiber components are so pricey.
From start to finish, it took 3 weeks for a single LFA to wind through assembly. 2 of those weeks were spent mostly laminating and molding carbon sheets made of carbon fibers. Only 1 car was completed in an 8-hour day.
About 170 people toiled in the LFA Works, around 100 of them in the carbon-fiber unit, where much of the work was done behind glass in immaculately clean rooms reminiscent of those in a computer chip factory.
There are 3 ways to make carbon-fiber composite, properly known as carbon-fiber reinforced polymer. Toyota does 2 in-house.
The 1st, called pre-preg, consists of using sheets of woven carbon-fiber fabric pre-impregnated with sticky resin. It is the most expensive and strongest type of carbon-fiber composite.
The 2nd is resin transfer molding. RTM is the next strongest type and is slightly cheaper.
The 3rd approach, which Toyota outsources, is carbon sheet molding compound. It is the weakest and cheapest carbon-fiber composite, though still much stronger and lighter than steel. It bonds chopped-up shreds of carbon fiber in an epoxy soup.
Hair dryers, spatulas
Pre-preg and RTM are labor- and time-intensive processes. Toyota won't say how many people worked on those processes. But the pre-preg room teemed with people laying down precision-cut pieces of carbon fiber into a pattern that would be the LFA's instrument panel.
Workers used hair dryers to heat and soften the resin-infused carbon sheet cutouts, then conformed them to nooks and crannies with a spatula.
The laid-out panel was then put into a giant autoclave pressure cooker for 8 hours. What came out was a single piece.
The RTM process was just as tedious.
Workers wrestled giant sheets of dry carbon-fiber fabric so it would adhere to a mold for what would be the tunnel for the LFA's transmission and propeller shaft. It was like trying to wrap a newspaper smoothly around a football. The sheets constantly slipped out of place. And once wasn't enough. Each tunnel needed 8 layers.
"We have problems all the time with misalignment. And if you pull too hard on the sheets, you can rip holes in the fiber," said a person involved with LFA development. Still, RTM was less labor-intensive than pre-preg.
Under both processes, a single component required 8 hours for layering and then another 8 hours for curing.
Looms to cars
Toyota also spins its own carbon fiber. In this regard, Toyota has come full circle: Before the Toyota Group began making cars in 1936, it made its fortune in automated looms for Japan's textile industry.
Now it is putting looms to work again. A giant circular loom weaves together 144 carbon-fiber threads, each a tight bundle of 24,000 strands of carbon fiber, each thinner than a human hair. Another loom weaves those threads into a flowing, graphite cloth that shimmers with carbon fiber's trademark crosscheck texture.
When all the subcomponents were cured and ready, they were glued together like a kid's plastic model to form the LFA body. Then, that too went into a giant oven. Once the adhesives were cured, the carbon body was complete.
After the last LFA was delivered in December, roughly 2/3 of the workshop's employees returned to their previous divisions. The rest stayed, churning out carbon-fiber parts.
Japanese carbon-fiber makers, led by Toray Industries Inc., account for 70% of the world's supply of carbon fiber. Japan's government promotes the industry as 1 that will have benefits for other sectors, especially autos, if Japan's manufacturers can rapidly reduce costs.
While the LFA undertaking has now thrown Toyota into the mix, it is unclear how competitive the carmaker's technology is.
Other carmakers
Lamborghini, Ferrari, Bentley and McLaren all use carbon fiber in their cars and are likewise pioneering manufacturing techniques and composites. Some say they have cut the time for certain stages of production down to minutes compared with hours at Toyota.
Bentley, for instance, has added cobalt to its carbon fiber to make it magnetic. This allows the company to use magnets to automate manufacturing, which cuts costs and speeds production time.
The LFA's outer panels, by contrast, are all carbon fiber and no more magnetic than other forms of plastic. But the electrostatic painting commonly used in vehicle mass assembly won't work on plastic. So certain parts had to be painted by hand.
Lamborghini uses a system called "forged composite," which it says is faster than pre-preg and autoclave processing.
BMW AG has created a joint venture with SGL Carbon SE in Moses Lake, Wash., to mass produce carbon fiber and develop in-house processing. The venture's site was chosen to take advantage of less-expensive hydroelectric power, yet another sign of how the industry is seeking any advantage in lowering costs.
Yet it may simply be more cost effective to turn over the manufacturing of carbon fiber and carbon-fiber products to the established makers that already have achieved mass scale.
Last year, General Motors partnered with Japan's Teijin Ltd. to develop carbon-fiber car parts that might be used in GM vehicles. At the time, GM said Teijin has the potential to produce them using a thermoplastic material that can be molded in less than 1 minute.
As part of that project, Teijin opened a technical center in Auburn Hills, Mich., in March 2012, to spearhead research into automotive applications of carbon fiber.
Toyota's insights
Toyota says it is evolving its technology as well, seeking to improve productivity and cut costs. In the future, it sees itself shifting more toward RTM and away from pre-preg. Its RTM process uses lower pressures than older techniques, vacuum assist and injection presses, which allow it to be more flexible and faster than traditional methods.
At the very least, Toyota's experiment with carbon fiber gives it an insight into the costs and manufacturing technologies involved.
Toyota has a history of gauging its suppliers' prices and quality by making similar parts in-house as a benchmark. It then uses that expertise in negotiating prices with suppliers and working with them to find efficiencies.
The carbon-fiber factory means Toyota will know the ropes for those parts, too.
"This is a success because we have nurtured an expertise in developing the technologies and techniques needed to make the carbon fiber," Toyota spokesman Keisuke Kirimoto said. "When advancements are made in speeding up the curing time of the resin, this accumulated knowledge will be used in the future."
LFA's life
Genesis: 2000. Idea for high-performance sports car originates in bar banter between Haruhiko Tanahashi, later the chief engineer, and Toyota executive Tetsuo Hattori.
Start of production: Dec. 15, 2010
Production run: Limited edition of 500 vehicles
Last vehicle built: Dec. 14, 2012
Price: $375,000
Powertrain: 4.8-liter V-10, 6-speed automatic transmission
0 to 60 mph: 3.7 seconds
Top speed: 202 mph
Body: 65% carbon fiber, 35% aluminum
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01-09-2013, 02:30 PM
#794
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I will always remember this car as simply one of the baddest cars ever made. The sound, the feel, the experience. It is a stunning feat for a company like Lexus with no prior experience in this market to have produced such a vehicle. They basically channeled all their know-how from F1 into this car.
01-09-2013, 02:39 PM
#795
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I will always remember this car as simply one of the baddest cars ever made. The sound, the feel, the experience. It is a stunning feat for a company like Lexus with no prior experience in this market to have produced such a vehicle. They basically channeled all their know-how from F1 into this car.
01-09-2013, 02:40 PM
#796
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Did you forget I drove one at a racetrack?
01-09-2013, 02:44 PM
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01-09-2013, 02:46 PM
#798
speaking of Altegris, when was he taking delivery of his LF-A again? 
of course, the guy has disappeared off of AZ. He'll show up again later this year under a different alias I guess.
of course, the guy has disappeared off of AZ. He'll show up again later this year under a different alias I guess.
01-09-2013, 02:46 PM
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01-09-2013, 02:48 PM
#800
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I'm eagerly waiting for him to come back under a new alias to tell us all about the Huayra or CCX he has on order.
