Lexus Large Coupe News **6-series Fighter Spied (page 1)**
07-20-2005, 01:59 PM
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Lexus Large Coupe News **6-series Fighter Spied (page 1)**
Getting Back in the Game: Toyota caught testing sporty Lexus entries - - Source: Autoweek
After several years of essentially staying on the sidelines of the sports car arena, it is becoming clear through quick glimpes at test tracks that Toyota is about to re-enter the raging horsepower wars in a big way. Our spies caught Toyota testing a high-performance coupe at the Nürburgring with proportions aimed at cars like the BMW 6 Series.
This test mule sports a Japan-market Toyota Crown Royal body that already uses a V8 engine and crucially, can be fitted with rear- or all-wheel drive.
While bodied as a sedan, notice several inches were cut out of the rear doors and roof. Other hints are the quad exhaust pipes, lowered suspension, large disc brakes and low profile tires.
With the Lexus brand’s recent introduction into the Japanese market and growing performance ambitions as telegraphed by its LF-A sports car concept (AW, Jan. 17), this future coupe will likely carry the Lexus badge.
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This test mule sports a Japan-market Toyota Crown Royal body that already uses a V8 engine and crucially, can be fitted with rear- or all-wheel drive.
While bodied as a sedan, notice several inches were cut out of the rear doors and roof. Other hints are the quad exhaust pipes, lowered suspension, large disc brakes and low profile tires.
With the Lexus brand’s recent introduction into the Japanese market and growing performance ambitions as telegraphed by its LF-A sports car concept (AW, Jan. 17), this future coupe will likely carry the Lexus badge.
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That's not the body they're going to use is it... (Didn't catch it in the reading, but I'm thinkin' they would use that body in a two door version?) or are they just testing out the platform right now..
07-20-2005, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Time For Sleeep
That's not the body they're going to use is it... (Didn't catch it in the reading, but I'm thinkin' they would use that body in a two door version?) or are they just testing out the platform right now..
The latter is correct.
07-20-2005, 02:46 PM
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interesting...i hope it drops the prices on the 6 series a lil bit or forces bmw to revamp the interior...
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
Is that an LS430 in the US? It looks hot
Here are some pics and info for the Toyota Crown from the Hong Kong market:
Model Name Royal Crown 3.0
Luxury Saloon
(Standard) Royal Crown 3.0
Luxury Saloon
(Deluxe)
Model Code GRS182R-AETQKSD GRS182R-AETQK
Dimensions & Weight
Overall Length (mm) 4,840
Overall Width (mm) 1,780
Overall Height (mm) 1,470
Wheel Base (mm) 2,850
Tread Front (mm) 1,525
Tread Rear (mm) 1,525
Kerb Weight (kg) 1,580-1,620
Engine
Code 3GR-FE
Type V6 Four Cam 24-valve Dual VVT-i Engine
Displacement (cc) 2,995
Max. output kW(PS)/rpm 170(228)/6,200
Max. torque Nm(kg-m)/rpm 300(30.6)/4,400
Fuel System
Type Electronic Fuel Injection (EFI)
Fuel Used Unleaded Petrol
Fuel Tank Capacity (litres) 71
Chassis
Transmission Type 6-speed Automatic Super Electronically Controlled Transmission with Artificial Intelligence and +/- Mode
Suspension (Front) Double Wishbone with Stabilizer Bar
Suspension (Rear) Multi-link with Stabilizer Bar
Brake (Front/Rear) Ventilated Disc / Disc
Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) *
Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD) *
Brake Assist System (BA) *
Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) *
Traction Control System (TRC) *
Hill Start Assist Control System *
Cruise Control System *
Steering Rack and Pinion, Vehicle Speed Sensing Electronic Power Steering (EPS)
Minimum Turning Radius (m) 5.2
Tyre & Wheel 215/60R16 Alloy Wheels
Exterior
Auto On/Off HID Headlamps with Auto Leveling *
Headlamp Cleaners *
Front & Rear Fog Lamps *
Adjustable Front Intermittent Windscreen Wiper *
Power Adjustable and Retractable Door Mirrors with Heater *
LED Rear Combination Lamp and High Mount Brake Lamp *
Interior
Seating Capacity (Including Driver) 5
Premium Leather Seats - *
Leather Steering Wheel and Shift Lever Knob *
Power Adjustable Steering Wheel with Audio Switches *
Intelligent Air-conditioning System with Air Filter *
Independent Driver and Front Passenger Temperature Control *
Air Purifier and Negative-ion Generator - *
3-set of Driver's Seat and Steering Wheel Position Memory Function - *
Driver's Seat with Power Lumber Support *
Power Adjustable Front Seats * * (with Heater)
Power Adjustable Rear Seats - * (with Heater)
Optitron Meter with Illumination Control *
LCD Multi-Information Display *
Power Windows with One Touch Control Switch and Jam Protection *
Rear Centre Armrest with Audio, Rear Air-conditioning, Seat Heating and Sunshade Controls - *
Power Rear Sunshade - *
Side Window Sunshades - *
Cool Box - *
Dual SRS Front and Knee Airbags *
Dual SRS Front Side Airbags - *
SRS Front and Rear Curtain-shield Airbags - *
All Seats with 3-point ELR Seatbelts *
Front and Outboard Rear Seatbelts with Pretensioners and Force Limiter *
ISOFIX Child Restraint System for Outboard Rear Seats *
Anti-theft System with immobilizer *
Illuminated Entry System *
2-stage Centre Console Box and Door Pockets *
Sun visors with Vanity Mirror and Lamp *
Electronic Tuning Radio/ Cassette/ 6-disc CD Player System * with 8 speaker
*Addition of extra features may change figures in this chart. Toyota Motor Corporation and Crown Motors Ltd. reserve the right to alter any details of specifications and equipment without notice.
07-20-2005, 04:15 PM
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Look at this interior. And it's a Toyota!
WHEN ARE GM INTERIORS GONNA LOOK LIKE THAT GOD DAMN IT?!?!
WHEN ARE GM INTERIORS GONNA LOOK LIKE THAT GOD DAMN IT?!?!
Can you imagine how well Caddy would do if they had interiors like that? GM is getting better but for a company of it's size to not be leading the pack, it's a shame really.
07-20-2005, 04:22 PM
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And thats "just" a Crown Royal, which is Crown's V6 model.
Crown Majesta(the V8 model) is much better inside and out:
interior: http://toyota.jp/crownmajesta/interior/index.html
exterior: http://toyota.jp/crownmajesta/exteri...lor/index.html
The best have yet to come, they will save it for the LS line for sure.
Crown Majesta(the V8 model) is much better inside and out:
interior: http://toyota.jp/crownmajesta/interior/index.html
exterior: http://toyota.jp/crownmajesta/exteri...lor/index.html
The best have yet to come, they will save it for the LS line for sure.
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Originally Posted by Time For Sleeep
The crown is a truly classy car. Would our equivalent be a camry or avalon for that?
07-20-2005, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Time For Sleeep
The crown is a truly classy car. Would our equivalent be a camry or avalon for that?
07-20-2005, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by stangg172004
wait never mind, i got it! i just read the title than saw the pics and got confused.... my bad!
07-20-2005, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by stangg172004
wait im confused 
The title says coupe, as in two doors? i dont see a two door car, just a big ass sedan 
what am i missing? 
The title says coupe, as in two doors? i dont see a two door car, just a big ass sedan what am i missing? 
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Avalon, since it's Toyota's halo car currently for our shores.
07-21-2005, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by titan
Acutally, that's was the equivalent of the LS (with a V6 though), if I'm not mistaken. I've been waiting to see what happens to that nameplate now that Lexus has finally been introduced in Japan.The Crown has been around for a long time. I always liked the exterior of the Crown as opposed to the LS, but I never got a good shot of the interior. That interior is beautiful... with a better design than our LS, IMO.
Though I would not be surprised if the Crown Majesta and Royal are based on the Celsior platform. I think the Celsior is the top sedan in the Toyota lineup next to the Century or whatever their V12 presidential cruiser is called.
07-21-2005, 07:40 PM
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^^ Right. Gav already caught me on that. The Crown is the Avalon here, and the LS is the Celsior there.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
The Crown isn't linked to the Avalon in anyway. We have no version of it here.
The Avalon is based on the next-gen Camry platform, if I am not mistaken. Previous iterations had all been based on the Camry platform.The Avalon is an American exclusive--in no other country is it offered. It's designed and made here, right in America.
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Originally Posted by titan
^^ Right. Gav already caught me on that. The Crown is the Avalon here, and the LS is the Celsior there.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
When you say linked what do you mean? I never meant it like the Avalon and the Crown shared components. I used the word halo (i believe you did too). So they are linked only from the perspective that the Crown is the top Toyota offering there as the Avalon is here.
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I think the Crown could have been a Lexus, superior to our avalon in quality, 
but with the new Is-series, which has an equal interior to the crown yet superior exterior imo, there really is no longer a need for it and surpsingingly, Lexus Japan(august05) seems to only use Us based cars- probably a smart move since the US is the largest market(proving ground).
but with the new Is-series, which has an equal interior to the crown yet superior exterior imo, there really is no longer a need for it and surpsingingly, Lexus Japan(august05) seems to only use Us based cars- probably a smart move since the US is the largest market(proving ground).
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