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Old 04-26-2005, 10:38 PM
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I'm guessing it's going to be a rebadged Avalon this time around.
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GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE... that's the next ES? Lexus taking a design risk? WOW
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Old 04-26-2005, 10:56 PM
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There are rumors of the next Avalon being RWD. Could it be because the next ES will be RWD and the next Avalon will share the platform?
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Originally Posted by titan
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE... that's the next ES? Lexus taking a design risk? WOW
Quite frankly, the current ES is a design risk, I find it quite ugly, yet they sell in droves. You know why? The interior is top notch, it rides like butter and people at this point know its a Lexus, its one of the best. It hit its target market

Seeing how ugly the ES is now, and it selling so well, shows how the car, like a BMW has transcended in America. B/C people believe in the ES badge and will buy it b/c they know Lexus ES means near top entry luxury car.
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Old 04-27-2005, 12:46 AM
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...even if it's fugly.
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hey its not a guised up camry
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Old 04-27-2005, 01:56 AM
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Just some rendering. Take it with a grain of salt. Remember how accurrate that Avalon CGI was last year?? Damn thing looked like a long Pruis hatchback. We saw what happened to that.
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Old 04-27-2005, 03:10 AM
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that is such an ugly ass rear.
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Old 04-27-2005, 04:31 AM
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:30 AM
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what da hell is that
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Old 04-27-2005, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
There are rumors of the next Avalon being RWD. Could it be because the next ES will be RWD and the next Avalon will share the platform?
Really? I didn't know the next Avalon (and by extension, the ES probably) would be RWD. So Lexus would truly be an all RWD lineup? I hope Buick pays attention.
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Old 04-27-2005, 11:41 AM
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there is no way in hell that toyota will go that direction will the next ES. It is too much of a risk for one of lexus' most popular vehicles.
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no way, that's too ugly to be a Lexus
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Originally Posted by AcuraGT-3
Quite frankly, the current ES is a design risk, I find it quite ugly, yet they sell in droves. You know why? The interior is top notch, it rides like butter and people at this point know its a Lexus, its one of the best. It hit its target market

Seeing how ugly the ES is now, and it selling so well, shows how the car, like a BMW has transcended in America. B/C people believe in the ES badge and will buy it b/c they know Lexus ES means near top entry luxury car.
nice. i totally agree. My mom drives the ES330.. the interior is just beautiful and the ride quality is super smooth. i personally hated it when my mom first bought it, but once i drove it around a little every other car i drove before feels like they had the hardest sports suspensions out there..

but i dont know about it being RWD. the people up here buys the ES becuase of it being a fwd. they want a luxury vehicle, with a upscale brand name, that could also be driven through bad road conditions (ie snow). ive seen so many ES's around here, seems like its one of the most popular cars for the business crowd. if they want a lexus with a rwd but on the same platform, they'll buy the GS300.. i doubt lexus would make the always been FWD car into a RWD and lose sales..

oyeah and to stay on topic.. that car is really ugly. so is the model now, but its just getting worse.
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:51 AM
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The ES's ride will probably remain soft. Just going RWD doesn't magically change the driving dynamics to sport tuned. It's just seen as a luxury requirement, I think. It'll be a isolated, soft riding RWD while the ES fights the battles for enthusiats' hearts.
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As long as it's Camry based it will never be RWD. Not only that, the ES will already be fighting with the IS within the Lexus lineup.

Maybe this is a test by Lexus to see what level of ugliness they can get away with.
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Old 04-28-2005, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by titan
Really? I didn't know the next Avalon (and by extension, the ES probably) would be RWD.
Yes. Look for the thread. Next Gen. Avalon News
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Originally Posted by biker
As long as it's Camry based it will never be RWD.
What if it switches to being Avalon based?
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Old 04-28-2005, 11:23 AM
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Isnt the Avalon FWD as well?
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Old 07-30-2005, 01:40 PM
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Lexus boosts prices - - By Greg Migliore - - Source: Automotive News

Lexus also said the price of the entry-level ES 330 sedan rose $125 to $32,950. A top trim level, called the Black Diamond edition, costs an extra $600 for special paint and trim.
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They're real. I've seen them elsewhere. I'm looking forward to seeing the production version of this car. The interior's supposed to be even nicer than it is now, to keep it's distance from the Avalon. Also, it'll be the first Lexus to have the glass roof seen above, a la' E-Class, as an option... very cool. The big question I have is the power plant. Will the next gen be introduced with the current 3.3L? Or will it be introduced with the 3.5L? I think it should definitely have the 3.5, making atleast more than the Avalon's 268HP. The IS's 306HP would be overkill in this FWD application, but 275HP driving the front wheels seems doable, IMO.

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Atleast it won't have crazy headlamps and Pokemon face.
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Everything I have read says that it will have the 3.5 - I just hope that this one looks more different from the Camry than the current generation.
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I think Lexus should change their slogan to:

"Lexus: Not even Buick makes a better Buick".
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Originally Posted by TSX Hokie
I think Lexus should change their slogan to:

"Lexus: Not even Buick makes a better Buick".
Hehehe. It's truly a shame that Lexus had beaten Buick on so many fronts at they're own game in recent years. What's worse, Buick's attempt at revival is halfassed, IMO, and that's a shame. I love Buick (or the Buicks of old).
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omg it has asian eyes on the ass!
(im asian myself btw )
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omg it has asian eyes on the ass!
(im asian myself btw )
It is from Japan after all
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if you look at the proportions on that spy pic, you see it's not carrying the so-called L-Finesse design that Lexus is working on (i.e. long hood, short trunk, swooping roof). I am guessing it'll still be FWD and still be Camry-esque in looks.
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omg it has asian eyes on the ass!
(im asian myself btw )
I resent that!
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I resent that!
You resent the fact that he is asian
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I resent that!
EHH?
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lmao @ asian eyes, although i'm asian and my eyes are quite unchinky thank you very much =D. Anyways Lexus been bangin out hit after hit, GS then the IS, and the new LS concept doesn't look too bad. I wonder if it'll be FWD or RWD?
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I wonder if it'll be FWD or RWD?
FWD. It'll share Toyota's new global platform with the new Camry. I think it's called MC.
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Originally Posted by TSX Hokie
I think Lexus should change their slogan to:

"Lexus: Not even Buick makes a better Buick".

LOL
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EHH?
The Asian eyes thing...it's, it's...racist! I'm so offended.






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