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Old 07-08-2017, 02:41 PM
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The New Kia Stinger GT Is Really Good At Getting Sideways And Roasting Tires


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Originally Posted by kurtatx
I want to see the Kia Stinger interior after 10,000 miles. That's always my issue with the entry level models. Hondas hold up. Chevys often don't.
My moms '13 Tucson with 80k on it still looks like new and its not well taken care of. The interior in my (formerly my dads who also didnt take care of it) 2010 genesis with 212k miles on it has held up better than my Acuras did at the 1 year mark.
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https://www.topgear.com/advertisemen...he-kia-stinger

A group of excited petrolheads, a world touring car champion, and one of the greatest tracks in Great Britain: Cadwell Park, also known as the mini-Nurburgring… What better way to introduce the mighty new Kia Stinger to the world for the first time?

You can see what happened right now by watching the video above, as the mighty 3.3 litre, twin-turbo V6-engined luxury sports GT underwent the ultimate test on road and track, and take in the thoughts of world champion racing driver Rob Huff below.

And for the full behind-the-scenes action and the full Rob Huff interview, just head this way…

So, Rob Huff, the Kia Stinger surprised you?

Well, if that car had a BMW badge, which it quite easily could, then you’d know what to expect. With a Kia badge, I didn’t know what to expect. Kia has never done a car like that before, so you wonder what will the first attempt will be like… And we all know how it turned out – I was genuinely very impressed. How Kia has managed to achieve those results, not only performance wise, but also handling wise, as well as making it aesthetically pleasing, at the first attempt, I think is very impressive.

How did the Kia Stinger perform on the track?

It was amazingly impressive. It has so much grip. And plenty of power – the mapping is very good, it’s very smooth, it’s very progressive, there are no holes in the map all the way from nothing to the top of the rev range. And behind those nice wheels it’s got Brembo brakes on it, so you know it’s going stop very well and pull itself up when you ask it too.

The grip and traction were amazing. The lap times we were doing, I imagine, were not far off race cars around Cadwell Park. And that to me is hugely impressive.

What do you like about Cadwell Park as a track?

I like the fact there’s no run-off. I’m known as a street racer – every street circuit I’ve ever raced in touring cars, I’ve won. I’ve won eight times in Macau for example, more than anyone else. Two weeks ago I was in Villareal in Portugal and got the new lap record. So street circuits are very much for me, and at Cadwell Park is quite like that, there’s no room for error. There’s no run-off, no gravel traps, if you run wide you’re straight into the grass and into an Armco barrier or tyre wall or whatever.

What did the passengers make of the track driving experience?

They was quite a lot of swearing! Cadwell Park was the perfect track because it’s so narrow and there’s no run-off, so people feel the danger of it. When you go that quick – and it’s a quick car – going sideways, one corner almost backwards, the whole experience of doing that day was amazing for them.

I would never normally look at a car like that, but after the day we had, I really would, it’s a genuinely impressive car. And that was the reaction of people in the car – how is it possible that Kia has done this, a luxury sports GT car?

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There's still bits aesthetically that are growing on me, but overall it sounds quite impressive.
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Lol when you click into that article, it says,"Advertisement Feature" right at the top left corner. Can't wait to see actual test results and driving impression reports from the likes of C/D, MT, R&T!
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It looks lowered in that last picture. Kinda cool for a factory car to come like that.
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^ Or it's mid-corner & the passenger side suspension is compressed?
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From most angles this doesn't look too bad. But something about the Dodge Charger-like taillights and that super long rear wide marker lens keeps irking me.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
^ Or it's mid-corner & the passenger side suspension is compressed?
haha yes, body roll in action.
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From most angles this doesn't look too bad. But something about the Dodge Charger-like taillights and that super long rear wide marker lens keeps irking me.


The tail lights don't look dodge-like at all. They look more Maserati like, more than anything.
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The tail lights don't look dodge-like at all. They look more Maserati like, more than anything.
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are y'all on crack?
the 1st gen NSX did it first
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
^ Or it's mid-corner & the passenger side suspension is compressed?
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haha yes, body roll in action.
Well then :embarrassed:
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Kia Stinger doesn't just threaten the TLX, it embarrasses Acura

A thread similar to this got closed in the TLX forum (because feelings), but the reality is the Kia Stinger is far superior to the TLX based on early reviews.

Exclusive 2018 Kia Stinger GT First Test: Well Stung - Motor Trend

The concept of “grand touring” has been around for centuries, and the moniker has been applied to cars since the 1940s, but it’s a term we tend to associate with exotic sports cars. The formula, though, is pretty simple: stylish, comfortable on a long drive, and plenty of power. But there’s no rule that says it has to cost a fortune, and the Kia Stinger GT is absolutely taking advantage of this exception.

We’ve driven prototypes at an overseas R & D complex, on a frozen Swedish lake, and on the Nürburgring Nordschleife. Now, finally, we’ve driven a production-spec 2018 Kia Stinger GT on real roads and to our own Auto Club Speedway test track. How does it fare against the German luxury sedans against which it will undoubtedly be compared?

Korean-branded cars usually aren’t synonymous with performance, but the rear-drive Stinger GT launches from 0 to 60 mph in 4.8 seconds and clocks the standing quarter mile in 13.3 seconds at 106.9 mph. An emergency stop from 60 mph requires 113 feet, and it’ll pull 0.85 average lateral g on a skidpad. On our exclusive figure-eight test track, the Stinger GT recorded a lap of 26.2 seconds at 0.71 average lateral g. Impressive numbers.

It’s pretty good to drive away from the test track, too. Out in the mountains, the Stinger GT exhibits a surprising but intriguing combination of vertical compliance and lateral stiffness. Over bumps, the suspension was soft and the ride of luxury-car quality. In the corners, though, it was stiff with excellent body control. Even when pushing hard, the Stinger GT rode well but dug into corners with little body roll.

The power is well-matched to the vehicle and only feels inadequate if you let the revs drop too low. You want those turbochargers working for you, and the best way to do it is to take advantage of the paddle shifters because the transmission isn’t quite aggressive enough for the really twisty roads.

“The engine has a fat torque curve, strong in midrange with noticeable lag at the bottom end,” our staff professional racer, Randy Pobst, said during filming for an episode of Ignition—which you can watch right now at Motor Trend OnDemand and YouTube.com/motortrend. “Low revs mean calling ahead and waiting for the power to be delivered. The Stinger is quite powerful, and one must constantly remind oneself that this is a Kia that is tearing up this winding road or on-ramp.”

Randy’s critique continued: “The transmission is just not sport-smart enough in automatic, especially on the track. It shifts up, so I just let it. There’s no reason for me to pull that paddle. I just have to remember to downshift on the way in, or else it won’t. The shifting is reasonable. It matches revs. It’s quick.”

It’s hard to say whether the transmission programming has changed since I drove a prototype on the Nürburgring or if our mountain roads and the Streets of Willow Springs racetrack are so much tighter that it amplifies the transmission’s inadequacy, but my initial impressions were more positive.

As well as we know the Stinger GT can drift in the right conditions, it doesn’t actually want to get wild out in the real world. The suspension tuning is conservative, the default behavior at the limit understeer. It makes the car very stable, never trying to swap ends no matter how hard you drive it. Thankfully, there’s a lot of grip in the front end, so you have to push it very hard to get it to plow. Just driving fast, it feels neutral. You need to be pushing your braking points to the last second and carrying as much speed as possible into a corner to make it cry uncle.

Here again, I wonder if the American-market tuning increases understeer versus the European-spec car I drove. Or maybe Randy just carries that much more speed in the corners. It’s probably the latter. The upshot: You’ll never feel a stability control intervention.

“What they’ve done is create stability control by tuning the car for a lot of understeer in the middle of a corner,” Randy said.

That’s not to say it won’t drift. Turn the computer off, give it a Scandinavian flick and too much throttle, and it’ll do a nice power oversteer or two. It’s just not a hoon by nature.

“It seems that the stability control is always learning and adapting,” Randy said. “Even with it turned off, it became more and more invasive as the day wore on, and the wheelspin and sliding woke up the nannies that watch over us hooligans. After a few nice drifts, the car began to resolutely resist power oversteer—a darned shame and frustrating.”

In other words, this is a grand touring sedan that actually takes its GT badge seriously. Out on the highway, it’s everything you want on a road trip. It floats over bad pavement while remaining taut and responsive on long, sweeping corners. In a world of Demons and Hellcats, 365 hp might not seem like a lot, but it’s plenty when applied correctly. The in-house eight-speed auto is programmed smartly for real-world conditions, delivering downshifts with little prodding. With the revs up and the turbos spinning, the engine delivers a pleasant surge of power that whisks you past trucks and loafers. It’s a very easy and comfortable car to cover distance in.

“The springs and shocks that control vertical motion are quite soft,” Randy said. “But transitional responses are quite well-controlled, likely by relatively strong anti-roll bars, and the ride is still quite compliant. Think ‘older Buick’ ride quality. Surprising for a sport sedan like this.”

It’s not just comfortable from the driver’s seat, either. The Kia has 2 to 4 inches of wheelbase over the Germans, and it puts them to good use. There’s ample rear-seat legroom and, despite the sloping roof, headroom for tall people. The front seats, meanwhile, are aggressively bolstered so you can concentrate on those mountain roads when you cross their path.

Capable though it may be from seat to steering, and despite testing it on the Nürburgring, Kia insists the Stinger GT isn’t a track car. We took it to a track anyway, and things got complicated. Kia’s press cars at the moment are all preproduction prototypes, and the first car they gave us suffered a power steering failure and had to be replaced. The second car, as it turns out, hadn’t yet had its U.S.-spec springs and dampers installed, and it exhibited considerably more body roll and understeer on the track than the first car. As a result, Randy posted a lap time—1:28.90—that he felt wasn’t representative of what the car could do. With a properly equipped car, Randy believes he could subtract a full second.

Things that didn’t change on track: the car’s weight and its braking performance—113 feet isn’t anywhere near a record in our 60–0-mph braking test, but it only tells part of the story. Randy was continually impressed at the durability of the brakes. Throughout a very hot day, the pedal remained consistent, and the steel brakes refused to fade.

“The brakes are impressively strong, with a consistent and firm pedal feel that inspires confidence,” he said. “The braking does not upset the chassis, and the pad compound can take the heat.”

There will be heat, and not just from the brakes. The Stinger GT is taking on a wildly competitive segment ruled by a small in-crowd. Whether it’s staring down the German triumvirate or the American holdouts, the sport sedan from the value brand has a lot to prove.

“For a first effort at a genuine sport sedan, the Stinger is quite an accomplishment,” Randy said. “It clearly is set up for a comfortable ride as a priority over race car dynamics, but in the real world, this makes sense. Even more so among buyers of a big, powerful GT car.”

Like no Korean car before it, the Stinger GT speaks the language of the enthusiast. Will they listen?How does the Stinger stack up?

How good are the Kia’s performance numbers for a 365-hp 3.3-liter twin-turbo V-6 with 376 lb-ft of torque and a roughly $40,000 starting price? They seem all right when you consider the Stinger GT falls between a midsize and full-size sedan in dimension and weighs 4,005 pounds. Making a direct comparison is trickier because it’s hard to say exactly what the Stinger competes with.

The Chevrolet SS was the most obvious spoiler, but it’s out of production. It started at about $48,000, hit 60 mph in 4.7 seconds, ran a quarter mile in 13.2 seconds at 108.9 mph, stopped from 60 in 108 feet, pulled 0.94 g average on the skidpad, and posted a 24.7-second figure-eight lap at 0.78 g average.

You could match it up with the Dodge Charger even though that car is 10 inches longer with a wheelbase nearly 6 inches longer, and it’s 300 pounds heavier. An R/T with the 370-hp 5.7-liter V-8 is cheaper by five grand, but the Kia will dust it everywhere but the skidpad and figure eight—and even then, it’s close. You need the $41,000 R/T Scat Pack with the 485-hp 6.4-liter V-8 if you want to win. And the Kia has a far nicer interior.

No, Kia wants a piece of the Germans. After all, the Stinger GT has a hatchback like the smaller Audi A5 Sportback or BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe. (The more appropriately sized Audi A7 is $69,000, in case you were wondering.)

The Audi A5 is $43,000 to start, and your only option is the 252-hp 2.0-liter turbo-four. Based on results of the lighter A4, it’s slower, but like the Charger, it just pips the Kia on the skidpad and figure eight. But it’s substantially smaller.

The BMW is also smaller but can be had with a turbo I-6 with 320 hp for about $50,000. Based on our test of the lighter 340i sedan, the 440i Gran Coupe is slower than the Kia, full stop.

Mercedes-Benz doesn’t make a hatchback sedan (yet), but to smoke the Kia, you’d need to spring for the $54,000 C43 AMG, which clips the Kia in every test but is, again, a smaller package.

In other words, the Kia can hang with the big dogs and might have carved out a pretty sharp niche.
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Wow. Looks like it's going for the kill on the Germans too, not just Acura. Not much word on the interior/luxury from the review.

Of course at a price of $40k and a KIA badge on the front.....the biggest enemy is its past reputation. It'll take a bit for someone who is shopping at that price segment to get into a Kia when they have choices at the Germans and Lexus/Inifiniti/Acura....
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Sounds like this is a great gran touring car, but as a sports sedan, based on some of Randy's words, it doesn't seem all that positive:
  • the transmission isn't quite aggressive enough for the really twisty roads
  • The transmission is just not sport-smart enough in automatic
  • noticeable lag at the bottom end, low revs mean calling ahead and waiting for the power to be delivered
  • suspension tuning is conservative, the default behavior at the limit understeer
  • the stability control, even with it turned off, became more and more invasive as the day wore on, and the wheelspin and sliding woke up the nannies that watch over us hooligans. After a few nice drifts, the car began to resolutely resist power oversteer—a darned shame and frustrating
But then, this is a pre-production model, so I think it's only fair to give it the benefit of the doubt and wait for the final US production version before jumping into conclusion. And for the price, what's more can we ask?

It's kinda heavy though at over 4000lb. I guess to keep that cost down, gotta go with steel only, especially Hyundai produces steel..lol.
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Hyundais/Kias are generally heavier- it's due to their chassis design. Building cars is only a small part of what that global conglomerate does. Because they produce their own steel, they are able to save costs on the overall car by doing so, and they make their cars out of solid steel. It's a double edged sword though. On one hand, you get an exceptionally stiff chassis. On the other hand, you get extra weight holding you back.
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The more I see photos of the Stinger, above, the more I love it. I don't doubt the car will have short falls though... they are only starting to nibble at the Germans with this thing. As I've said before, this will not take a bite out of any German sales.. By the 3rd gen? Possible. Now? Nope. It will have growing pains, but it'll show them where they need to focus if they do decide to build subsequent generations. Hmmm... something Acura should try for once
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Haha you can only hope the vehicles coming from the precision concept would do that. Gotta wait for next gen vehicles to see.
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Going to be keeping my eyes on this. Excited to test drive it when it hits dealer lots. I was never a big Kia fan, but after driving my girlfriend's Optima regularly and servicing it myself, I gotta I'm pretty impressed. We got some friends that own them too and they've all been pretty rock solid. Going to wait until the MMR comes out though before actually purchasing since this car will be the first of its model generation.

If this ends up being 85% the car the C45 AMG is, we're def taking this over it. Especially at the price point. Badges don't mean anything to me.
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As much as I the C43, I'd be giving a hard look at the Stinger & G70 as well.
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It is nice to have more options. Who knew Kia would be in this segment now. If somebody told me 10 years ago that Kia was working on a 3-series fighter, I'd tell them they were on crack.

I never cared much for badges, but I do care about reliability and long-term quality. The Germans still haven't proven to me that is something that they care about yet.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
As much as I the C43, I'd be giving a hard look at the Stinger & G70 as well.
My mistake, I forgot the C450 is now the C43.

Originally Posted by Costco
It is nice to have more options. Who knew Kia would be in this segment now. If somebody told me 10 years ago that Kia was working on a 3-series fighter, I'd tell them they were on crack.

I never cared much for badges, but I do care about reliability and long-term quality. The Germans still haven't proven to me that is something that they care about yet.
I hear ya on that. Reliability is always number one on my list along with resale value. Our Kia doesn't have great resale, but it has been pretty damn reliable (knock on wood). The direction the brand is going right now though, I'm sure their resale value will improve in the years to come.
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Australian review:

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I know this sounds shallow, but the Stinger should almost have it's own logo like a Mustang.
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$32,795
  • $31,900 for base Stinger 2.0T
  • $37,000 for Stinger Premium 2.0T
  • $39,000 for GT 3.3 T
  • $43,500 for GT1 3.3T
  • $49,500 for GT2 3.3 T
  • AWD $2,200 for all models
  • Destination $895

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Originally Posted by Black Tire
Australian review:
Good review. Sounds like that 8AT's got a mind of its own, even in sport mode. Vague steering, too. Hmmmm, too bad, cuz that's a good lookin' body design.

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Originally Posted by 2012wagon
$32,795
  • $31,900 for base Stinger 2.0T
  • $37,000 for Stinger Premium 2.0T
  • $39,000 for GT 3.3 T
  • $43,500 for GT1 3.3T
  • $49,500 for GT2 3.3 T
  • AWD $2,200 for all models
  • Destination $895
So it is not that much cheaper than the Germans...
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https://www.topgear.com/car-news/fir...specs-revealed

4WD and turbo engines galore on Kia's anticipated GT. Yours from under £32k

Remember the Stinger? Kia’s GT with rear-wheel drive? That’s the one. Kia has now revealed the specs and most importantly, the price, which starts at £31,995 when it goes on sale on January 1 next year.

There will be five different variants, with three trims – GT-Line, GT-Line S and GT-S – with a choice of three turbocharged engines. Top of the range will be the GT-S with a twin-turbo 365bhp 3.3-litre V6 engine, a 0-60mph time of just 4.7 seconds and a top speed of 168mph. This will set you back £40,495.

GT-Line and GT-Line S both get the choice of a 244bhp 2.0-litre four-cylinder petrol engine, or a 197bhp 2.2-litre diesel, that latter motor claiming up to 50.4mpg and giving the GT a claimed touring range of more than 600 miles. All models get an eight-speed auto ‘box with flappy paddles plus rear-wheel drive.

Details inside include an eight-inch touchscreen, Android Auto or Apple CarPlay, and a nine-speaker premium sound system.

Some context. A BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe starts from £33k (the 420i Sport with just over 180bhp) against the Kia’s sub-£32k starting price. Move up to the top of the range Stinger GT-S (at £40k), and an equivalent BMW 4 GC (the 440i M Sport) costs over £45k.

“It’s not razor-sharp (nor’s a 4 Series unless it’s an M4, and they don’t do an M4 in the GC body) but it’s game and dignified,” explained TG’s Paul Horrell on the first drive of the Stinger. “Doesn’t feel out of its depth…”

You can read the rest of our first drive review here.

So, BMW or Kia - which gets your online vote?


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While it's not much cheaper in terms of base prices, I'm guessing the big wins will be on the options list. The Kia comes in at ~$50k fully decked out while the 440i comes in at $50k base price plus options...

Where this car will really be a win is in lease deals. They will offer tons of money on the hood to move these from the get go because of the reason above and I'd expect the G70 to be a similar situation.
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The 340i with the premium pkg and Executive pkg is $55.5k including destination. That's about $5k over the Stinger 3.3T GT2 with destination.

You can still add things like driver assistance pkg, blind spot detection, active cruise control, and apple car play to the 340i which would take it up to $59k.

Likewise, a well equipped MB C43 AMG is at $64k.

My understanding is that in the US, BMW offers some pretty competitive lease deals on the 3 series. I'm not sure how it would compare with the Stinger though.

My concern for the Stinger is that it's pretty darn heavy at 4000lb for a 3.3T RWD model. An AWD C43 AMG is 3900lb. All that weight does take a toll on the performance. While the Stinger can do 0-60mph in high 4's and 1/4 mile in mid 13's at 106mph, the C43 AMG does 0-60mph in low 4's and 1/4 mile in the 12's, trapping at 110mph.
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isn't the Stinger GT supposed to be more of a GT car, than all out track monster. if so, quarter mile numbers dont mean squat for the Stinger, as that's not what the car is intended for.
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Yea. But I think the same can be said with most cars in this segment eh - 340i, C43 AMG, Q50 Red Sport - none of these are track monsters.

With that said, are we really suppsoed to compare the Stinger to those cars? I thought that's what the G70 is for?
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
While it's not much cheaper in terms of base prices, I'm guessing the big wins will be on the options list. The Kia comes in at ~$50k fully decked out while the 440i comes in at $50k base price plus options...

Where this car will really be a win is in lease deals. They will offer tons of money on the hood to move these from the get go because of the reason above and I'd expect the G70 to be a similar situation.
With shitty residuals, i am not so sure about that.
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Yea. But I think the same can be said with most cars in this segment eh - 340i, C43 AMG, Q50 Red Sport - none of these are track monsters.

With that said, are we really suppsoed to compare the Stinger to those cars? I thought that's what the G70 is for?
interesting!
buyers in this segment are going to be making a HARD choice!
as it will come down to price, brand cachet, and driving dynamics
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Originally Posted by iforyou
The 340i with the premium pkg and Executive pkg is $55.5k including destination. That's about $5k over the Stinger 3.3T GT2 with destination.

You can still add things like driver assistance pkg, blind spot detection, active cruise control, and apple car play to the 340i which would take it up to $59k.

Likewise, a well equipped MB C43 AMG is at $64k.

My understanding is that in the US, BMW offers some pretty competitive lease deals on the 3 series. I'm not sure how it would compare with the Stinger though.

My concern for the Stinger is that it's pretty darn heavy at 4000lb for a 3.3T RWD model. An AWD C43 AMG is 3900lb. All that weight does take a toll on the performance. While the Stinger can do 0-60mph in high 4's and 1/4 mile in mid 13's at 106mph, the C43 AMG does 0-60mph in low 4's and 1/4 mile in the 12's, trapping at 110mph.
BMW lease deals are some of the best around. Way better than Audi but MB is close behind. I've been looking...

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With shitty residuals, i am not so sure about that.
You can lease a 2017 Genny G80 ($50k car) for $359/mo. Hard numbers like residuals and such are for cars without manufacturer specials. When Kia tosses a few grand on the hood to move the units and/or subsidizes the residual/MF, the lease prices come down fast.
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BMW lease deals are some of the best around. Way better than Audi but MB is close behind. I've been looking...



You can lease a 2017 Genny G80 ($50k car) for $359/mo. Hard numbers like residuals and such are for cars without manufacturer specials. When Kia tosses a few grand on the hood to move the units and/or subsidizes the residual/MF, the lease prices come down fast.

I am not gonna argue with you on the G80 leasing price since i don't know. Maybe that is true. But with 54% residual for 36/12k lease. Before tax and fees, buyer will have to pay about $23k in 36 months. $359/month is only $13000, Hyundai would have to discount at least 10k off MSRP in order to get anywhere close to $359/month before tax and fees. Realistically about $13000 off MSRP if we take money factor into consideration.

If that is how much Hyundai is discounting their cars, then yah it makes sense.
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I am not gonna argue with you on the G80 leasing price since i don't know. Maybe that is true. But with 54% residual for 36/12k lease. Before tax and fees, buyer will have to pay about $23k in 36 months. $359/month is only $13000, Hyundai would have to discount at least 10k off MSRP in order to get anywhere close to $359/month before tax and fees. Realistically about $13000 off MSRP if we take money factor into consideration.

If that is how much Hyundai is discounting their cars, then yah it makes sense.
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