Jaguar: X-Type news **Production to End (page 2)**
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Jaguar's X Type is not yet out and they already have prepared the R version of it!
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A storming 330bhp R version of the imminent X-Type sports saloon is in the pipeline, Jaguar has announced. The company's managing director Jonathan Browning confirmed the exciting news – and sent a clear warning to rivals that the car is only the tip of the iceberg as far as expansion plans for the X-Type go.
He told us: "There will be an R version as well as diesel-engined models for the X-Type. We would like to tell you about more, but they have to stay under wraps." However, Browning did reveal that a hot version of the S-Type will also be on sale within a year.
It's known that the X-Type R will be powered by a substantially re-engineered, supercharged version of the 3.0-litre 24-valve AJ-V6 engine. Company insiders say it promises to deliver at least 330bhp via a six-speed manual gearbox to all four wheels. A six-speed automatic unit will be offered as an option, while the interior will introduce a fresh and more dynamic character to Jaguar, with green suede trim contrasting with red instruments and brushed aluminium across the dash. Under the beefed-up skin, there will be an uprated suspension, wheels, tyres and brakes. Our sources say it will be every bit as quick as BMW's new M3, but substantially cheaper at £35,000.
For those who can't bear a two-year wait for an X-Type R, how about the new S-Type R? Set to become the most powerful production Jaguar on sale, it will boast 400bhp, a new six-speed automatic gearbox, a sportier stance and cabin, plus upgraded running gear to cope with the phenomenal power hike. New diesel engine technology will be introduced into the X and S-Types by 2003. Bosses are pushing parent company Ford and stablemate Land Rover for permission to build an all-new V6 superdiesel to beat the best on performance, refinement, fuel economy and emissions.
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I seen that shit at the NY Auto Show...
BEAUTIFUL. Much better in person... just like the CL.
Definately worth a glance if your in the car market.
Too bad its built in the same factory as the Ford Escort![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/eek.gif)
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BEAUTIFUL. Much better in person... just like the CL.
Definately worth a glance if your in the car market.
Too bad its built in the same factory as the Ford Escort
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by soopa:
so it will be 50k?
or is my conversion off?</font>
so it will be 50k?
or is my conversion off?</font>
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Wow --
Very impressive. I always thought the XJR was a bad-ass ride. However -- I never heard of a reliable Jaguar, let-alone a reliable Jag. after the Ford merger. Maybe that's all rumors, but paper stats only -- this car looks like it'll give the S4 a run for its money if it handles as well --.
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Very impressive. I always thought the XJR was a bad-ass ride. However -- I never heard of a reliable Jaguar, let-alone a reliable Jag. after the Ford merger. Maybe that's all rumors, but paper stats only -- this car looks like it'll give the S4 a run for its money if it handles as well --.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ruvz:
Finally some good competition for BMW....look out M3's!
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Finally some good competition for BMW....look out M3's!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TL_Type_S:
Wow --
Very impressive. I always thought the XJR was a bad-ass ride. However -- I never heard of a reliable Jaguar, let-alone a reliable Jag. after the Ford merger. Maybe that's all rumors, but paper stats only -- this car looks like it'll give the S4 a run for its money if it handles as well --.
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Wow --
Very impressive. I always thought the XJR was a bad-ass ride. However -- I never heard of a reliable Jaguar, let-alone a reliable Jag. after the Ford merger. Maybe that's all rumors, but paper stats only -- this car looks like it'll give the S4 a run for its money if it handles as well --.
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http://www.jdpower.com/global/jdpaaw...es/110200.html
also
http://www.jdpower.com/global/jdpaaw...QS2050500.html
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gavriil:
That's right chief. I like that. Enough with this M3 is the king crap. Watch out, there is a lot more to come on that category. You think Porsche will stay with those prices the 911's got all these years? No way. You think the next CLS will be FWD? No way.
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That's right chief. I like that. Enough with this M3 is the king crap. Watch out, there is a lot more to come on that category. You think Porsche will stay with those prices the 911's got all these years? No way. You think the next CLS will be FWD? No way.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by someguy:
Read this, Jaguars have almost as few problems as Acuras
http://www.jdpower.com/global/jdpaaw...es/110200.html
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http://www.jdpower.com/global/jdpaaw...QS2050500.html
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Read this, Jaguars have almost as few problems as Acuras
http://www.jdpower.com/global/jdpaaw...es/110200.html
also
http://www.jdpower.com/global/jdpaaw...QS2050500.html
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Touche!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tom2:
Who says M3 are king?
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Who says M3 are king?
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Ok first off this bullshit with Jag's have to stop.
My dad has owned at least two Jags every year since 1972. From the 1957 Xk120 to 1961 XKE to the XJS V-12's the new XJR. Jaguar's had a lot of problems up until 1994. When not only did they start to totally re engineer the car they also merged with Ford. Since then we have not had one problem with any Jaguar we have owned. We put 50K miles on a 1996 Xj6 and have 26K on a 99 XJR. Not once have we had to do any more than normal work to them (brakes, tires, oil.) So I think everyone has to get this stereotype about jag's out of their heads.
Second the new R is supposed to give the M3 competition. I have heard things from some people my dad is friends with about running upper 4's to 60 just like the new M3. However I can be almost sure the handling will not be as well. Reason for that is Jaguar likes a quite, more comfortable ride and they will try and keep that up which will lack in turning ability.
Either way I was going to get the X-type just wasn't to impressed at the Auto Show last week. However i'm getting the CL-S and putting my name on the list for the new R, and once it comes out that's what I plan on getting. Can't wait.
My dad has owned at least two Jags every year since 1972. From the 1957 Xk120 to 1961 XKE to the XJS V-12's the new XJR. Jaguar's had a lot of problems up until 1994. When not only did they start to totally re engineer the car they also merged with Ford. Since then we have not had one problem with any Jaguar we have owned. We put 50K miles on a 1996 Xj6 and have 26K on a 99 XJR. Not once have we had to do any more than normal work to them (brakes, tires, oil.) So I think everyone has to get this stereotype about jag's out of their heads.
Second the new R is supposed to give the M3 competition. I have heard things from some people my dad is friends with about running upper 4's to 60 just like the new M3. However I can be almost sure the handling will not be as well. Reason for that is Jaguar likes a quite, more comfortable ride and they will try and keep that up which will lack in turning ability.
Either way I was going to get the X-type just wasn't to impressed at the Auto Show last week. However i'm getting the CL-S and putting my name on the list for the new R, and once it comes out that's what I plan on getting. Can't wait.
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Automobile Mag just did a write up about the long term S Type that basicly was a love letter. But, they did have problems with some of the interior pieces being too Ford-like for a 55K car.
I have a buddy up the street that has one of the first ones delivered in the Chicago area, white one. I've been in it a couple of times. I liked it fine, but at its price I think I'd buy Lexus, BMW or MB just for resale protection. He simply loves the car, and it has been flawless. It also hauls like a raped-ape.
He used to drive a 3.0 CL, which he has passed down to his daughter.
There seems to be a lot of "POS" references to domestic cars. I've owned many, and have rarely had problems. Only a 1998 Caravan which ate its valve train was a bad vehicle. I should have known better than to buy a Dodge. I am not saying that all US cars are great, but I do remember lots of Accords from the early 80's having to have their engines rebuilt after blowing a timing belt.
All makers have problems. To me, the strength of the better marques is in the quality of the dealerships. The dealer prep is a serious thing at Honda, Acura etc. At Chevey, its just an additional charge.
When I took delivery of my 95 Impala SS, we went over the car with a fine toothed comb, and I found several things related to the shipping protection that Chevy puts on the car that were ignored by the dealer.
They fixed it.
My Aucra was delivered perfect. They were out of wheeel locks when I picked up the car, so they sent a mechanic to my place of buisness to put them on when they got some.
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I have a buddy up the street that has one of the first ones delivered in the Chicago area, white one. I've been in it a couple of times. I liked it fine, but at its price I think I'd buy Lexus, BMW or MB just for resale protection. He simply loves the car, and it has been flawless. It also hauls like a raped-ape.
He used to drive a 3.0 CL, which he has passed down to his daughter.
There seems to be a lot of "POS" references to domestic cars. I've owned many, and have rarely had problems. Only a 1998 Caravan which ate its valve train was a bad vehicle. I should have known better than to buy a Dodge. I am not saying that all US cars are great, but I do remember lots of Accords from the early 80's having to have their engines rebuilt after blowing a timing belt.
All makers have problems. To me, the strength of the better marques is in the quality of the dealerships. The dealer prep is a serious thing at Honda, Acura etc. At Chevey, its just an additional charge.
When I took delivery of my 95 Impala SS, we went over the car with a fine toothed comb, and I found several things related to the shipping protection that Chevy puts on the car that were ignored by the dealer.
They fixed it.
My Aucra was delivered perfect. They were out of wheeel locks when I picked up the car, so they sent a mechanic to my place of buisness to put them on when they got some.
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Here is a different report on the quality of cars:http://www.usatoday.com/money/consumer/autos/mauto639.htm
Sorry, new here. How to you post a link correctly?
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Sorry, new here. How to you post a link correctly?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gavriil:
Just because you are answering to this it is proof that you have said it and/or believe it in some way. There is your answer.
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Just because you are answering to this it is proof that you have said it and/or believe it in some way. There is your answer.
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This is not the first time that you have "put words in MY mouth".
Grow up.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tom2:
Don't put words in my mouth, bookboy.
This is not the first time that you have "put words in MY mouth".
Grow up.
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Don't put words in my mouth, bookboy.
This is not the first time that you have "put words in MY mouth".
Grow up.
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X-Type Wagon and "R" version may come afterall...
From www.autoexpress.co.uk today:
X-Type Estate's In The Frame
Get a load of this! Auto Express has the clearest pictures yet of the eagerly awaited new Jaguar X-Type estate.
Reader William Cardiff saw a whole transporter full of them as he stopped for fuel at Kegworth Services on the M1 in Leicestershire. "I realised what they were, so went and bought a disposable camera before it drove off," he said.
Set to make its public debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September, the practical newcomer looks certain to boost X-Type sales, which have disappointed Jaguar chiefs to date. Although the official name of the load-lugger remains a secret, our spies have revealed plans for a varied line-up.
Drivers can expect practical additions, including paint-protecting roof rails and folding rear seats. Extra storage will be available under the boot floor, and the car will have a selection of cargo nets and securing points to help stow heavy items. Both two and four-wheel-drive machines will be available when the car goes on sale next year, powered by a choice of 2.0, 2.5 and 3.0-litre V6 petrol engines. A 2.0-litre diesel will also be offered, while a 2.7 V6 edition is under development.
Set to take on BMW's 3-Series Touring and Audi's A4 Avant, the new estate is likely to carry a £1,500 premium over the saloon. A secret R-badged flagship to rival Mercedes' C32 AMG estate is also undergoing testing. Offering at least 330bhp from its 3.0-litre V6, it could cost around £35,000.
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X-Type Estate's In The Frame
Get a load of this! Auto Express has the clearest pictures yet of the eagerly awaited new Jaguar X-Type estate.
Reader William Cardiff saw a whole transporter full of them as he stopped for fuel at Kegworth Services on the M1 in Leicestershire. "I realised what they were, so went and bought a disposable camera before it drove off," he said.
Set to make its public debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September, the practical newcomer looks certain to boost X-Type sales, which have disappointed Jaguar chiefs to date. Although the official name of the load-lugger remains a secret, our spies have revealed plans for a varied line-up.
Drivers can expect practical additions, including paint-protecting roof rails and folding rear seats. Extra storage will be available under the boot floor, and the car will have a selection of cargo nets and securing points to help stow heavy items. Both two and four-wheel-drive machines will be available when the car goes on sale next year, powered by a choice of 2.0, 2.5 and 3.0-litre V6 petrol engines. A 2.0-litre diesel will also be offered, while a 2.7 V6 edition is under development.
Set to take on BMW's 3-Series Touring and Audi's A4 Avant, the new estate is likely to carry a £1,500 premium over the saloon. A secret R-badged flagship to rival Mercedes' C32 AMG estate is also undergoing testing. Offering at least 330bhp from its 3.0-litre V6, it could cost around £35,000.
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damn...pics aren't working
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Pic 2: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/openpic..._pic_10595.jpg
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I actually like the X-type. It is a beautiful car, nice interior and nicely priced. Yea, it's not reliable, but I expect that from a Jag! haha...
I do not want to see a wagon though. I just think a wagon in their lineup would look out of place. And the design's would just look strange in a wagon form.....but I am excited for the X-type R!!!
I do not want to see a wagon though. I just think a wagon in their lineup would look out of place. And the design's would just look strange in a wagon form.....but I am excited for the X-type R!!!
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In this month's Automobile mag, their long tem X-type got terrible reviews. It broke down on them all the time and they basically said it cheapens the brand JAGUAR.
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i personally like em. i'd hit an XJ or S-type before it ofcourse, you get what you pay for, but i dont think the X-type is THAT bad, a friend of mine has one and nothings gone wrong with it.
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Jaguar: X-Type news **Production to End (page 2)**
From autoexpress:
Is the Big Cat set to be leaping off the front of an SUV in the near future? It's inevitable, according to our source highly placed in Jaguar product development. "Considering the success of the Volvo XC90, I can't see how we can avoid entering this sector," he told us.
The US is one of the company's most important markets and sales of lightweight crossover SUVs such as the Lexus RX300 and BMW X5 are booming there. Bosses admit that the European diesel engine boom has cost the firm dear, and they don't want to be left behind again.
Officially, all Jaguar will say is that it investigated building an SUV in 1999, but concluded it didn't need to enter the market. Since then, though, sales of lifestyle crossover models have exploded. Jaguar's owner Ford is also rushing to enter the American SUV market with two models - a Ford and a Lincoln - based on the 4x4 Mazda 6 platform. These will be built in Canada and should be unveiled in late 2005. Industry sources think a Jag SUV could be a version of this car, although serious design work has yet to start at the British firm's Coventry-based styling studios.
Is the Big Cat set to be leaping off the front of an SUV in the near future? It's inevitable, according to our source highly placed in Jaguar product development. "Considering the success of the Volvo XC90, I can't see how we can avoid entering this sector," he told us.
The US is one of the company's most important markets and sales of lightweight crossover SUVs such as the Lexus RX300 and BMW X5 are booming there. Bosses admit that the European diesel engine boom has cost the firm dear, and they don't want to be left behind again.
Officially, all Jaguar will say is that it investigated building an SUV in 1999, but concluded it didn't need to enter the market. Since then, though, sales of lifestyle crossover models have exploded. Jaguar's owner Ford is also rushing to enter the American SUV market with two models - a Ford and a Lincoln - based on the 4x4 Mazda 6 platform. These will be built in Canada and should be unveiled in late 2005. Industry sources think a Jag SUV could be a version of this car, although serious design work has yet to start at the British firm's Coventry-based styling studios.
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I always thought of Land Rover as the Jaguar of SUV's....well now that they are both owned by Ford, why can't Jaguar "merge" (closer) w/ Land Rover to help eachother financially...this would also help both keep their image.
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When I was growing up I wanted a Jag so bad. It was prestigous, expensive and something to aspire to. The S-type was not my cup of tea but the X-type RUINED Jaguar. A Jag SUV will be he end of them and they will be seen like Infiniti and Acura, Lincoln etc.
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IMO the X-type, thats fine, a sporty, solid, semi-affordable Jag. the S-type, more upscale and a bit less sporty, a solid mid range luxo sedan eventhough the style is getting old. ofcourse the XJ and XK are fine cars signifying exactly what Jaguar is about.
an SUV is NOT the answer for shitty sales. use the R&D money on something exciting, something new, something innovative, not something we all loathe. the SUV craze is going down just as more companies are producing more. i say they should come up with a stylish, sporty and sufficiently fast little brother to the XK. something for the mid 30-50 range. something that says jaguar but doesnt cost as much as the XK8/R, like a V6 iteration and slightly different body style. is there a problem with this?
an SUV is NOT the answer for shitty sales. use the R&D money on something exciting, something new, something innovative, not something we all loathe. the SUV craze is going down just as more companies are producing more. i say they should come up with a stylish, sporty and sufficiently fast little brother to the XK. something for the mid 30-50 range. something that says jaguar but doesnt cost as much as the XK8/R, like a V6 iteration and slightly different body style. is there a problem with this?
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Jaguar marks down X-Type by $3K
Faced with lagging sales, Jaguar marks down X-Type
By MARK RECHTIN | Automotive News
Faced with lagging sales of its entry-luxury X-Type, Jaguar Cars North America will slash the price of the 3.0-liter model for the 2004 model year.
Jaguar will cut the sticker price of the upper-level X-Type 3.0 to $33,995 from $36,970, including destination charges.
In addition, the base X-Type 3.0 has added as standard a power moonroof, automatic headlamps, split folding rear seat, a wood-and-leather steering wheel, another cupholder and two extra audio speakers, which Jaguar values at $2,225.
The 2.5-liter model will remain at $29,995, including destination charges. There are no changes in the basic content of that car.
No change in dealer discount The price reduction will have no impact on the dealer discount, says Richard Beattie, executive vice president of sales and marketing for Jaguar and Land Rover North America. He hopes the 2004 X-Type 3.0 will account for about 75 percent of X-Type sales. It now accounts for about 25 percent. "The feedback we were getting was stronger for the 3-liter than the 2.5. We needed to reposition the vehicle in the heart of the segment," Beattie says, noting that the typical entry-luxury segment transaction price is between $33,000 and $34,000. The 3.0-liter X-Type will offer 227 hp and all-wheel drive, compared with the similarly priced BMW 325i, which has rear drive and 184 hp, and the Mercedes-Benz C240, which has rear drive and 168 hp, Beattie says. Despite the price cut, Jaguar will continue incentives, offering a competitive lease for both the 2.5-liter and 3.0-liter versions, Beattie says. "We will be focusing more on value and product attributes of the 3-liter," he says. "We also are dramatically reducing the number of build combinations, so there is less ordering complexity from the dealer point of view." The X-Type could use a sales boost. Through July, X-Type sales were 14,491 units, off 32.3 percent from last year. For comparison, BMW 325 sales were 45,826 units through July, up 9 percent. Mercedes-Benz C-class sales were 40,092, up 5.3 percent. Overall Jaguar sales were down 21.0 percent to 29,824. Lower residuals Slashing prices usually brings lower residual values of previous model-year vehicles, Beattie says. He notes that Jaguar has set aside some incentive funds to help dealers move used X-Types off their lots. Raj Sundaram, president of Automotive Lease Guide in Santa Barbara, Calif., thinks the repositioning is "the right thing to do because the 3-liter already had between $5,000 and $6,000 of lease subvention on it. "There is nothing worse than being perceived at a high price and also at a high discount," Sundaram says. As a result of Jaguar's price reduction, ALG has increased the forecasted residual on the 3.0-liter X-Type, to 49 percent of original value after 36 months, up from 46 percent, Sundaram said. Other luxury automakers have tried this tactic in the past. Infiniti recalculated its pricing in the middle of a product cycle in the late 1990s and saw incentive spending decline, though customers still wanted to haggle. Sundaram says Mercedes-Benz slashed the price of the S class when it was redesigned and also cut the dealer margin, thus improving the transaction price of the car.
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Jaguar Heats Up X-Type
Jaguar Heats Up X-Type
A hot new X-Type is heading for the road. Jaguar engineers are putting the final touches to a high-performance flagship, set to be unveiled at March's Geneva Motor Show. The newcomer will be powered by a version of the 3.0-litre V6 tuned to around 250bhp and feature lower suspension and a bodykit with a boot spoiler.