oonowindoo

for the record, 1 series is not the most beautiful design. It is quite :theghey: . in fact, if the 1 series don't have the TT motor in there, it is :theghey: x100

is300eater

I don't think it's fugly... when I saw one from the front... I didn't even know it was a 1 series... I thought it was a 3 The only part of the car that I don't care for is the sharp drop in the back (roof). Otherwise I don't think it's bad at all... (and keep in mind... I'm all pro Infiniti). I mean... I think this AC Schnitzer 1 series looks pretty tight...

oonowindoo

i know it is not ugly. i never said it is ugly. it is a good performance machine and it is just that. but the design is nothing to brag about.

JediMindTricks

personally, i think the 1series is not a good looking car at all. so i agree with oonowindoo.

titan

+2

Brandon24pdx

Please...135i will never lose to anything marketed by Infinity. It was a freak of nature from day 1, not unlike the Supra.

oonowindoo

what the fuck did you just say?

is300eater

I was going to say the same thing

congo

looking forward to see one,

Black Tire

What do you mean? You think a G37 cannot beat this car in every catergory?

is300eater

that whole statement is just weird... how is the Supra relavent?

F23A4

Besides, the Supra was no more popular nor special than the FD3S, Z32 and GTO (3000GT) during its production run. (It wasnt until The Fast and the Furious a decade later that it reached another level.)

SeCsTaC

mrproul

shit they should just update the convertible m30 coupe from back in the day and be done with it. that car came stock with 3.0v6 in it and made ok power.

F23A4

IMHO, the C-pillar in the coupe looks a little whack so a vert is a definite improvement.

JediMindTricks

reminds me of "three kings" when they were arguing whether or not infiniti made a convertible.

TommySalami

The 1 needs to drop its smile
I chopped some eyelids on one with a different bumper that I think looks a good bit better

TMQ

The Infiniti G37 is small enough. Go try the back seat. If it's any smaller, it might as well be the Z.

Frankly Infiniti has some nice sporting machines but the packages haven't all been that great. Look at the EX - function wise it's terrible.

To compete with BMW, Infiniti will have to under cut the price significantly in a smaller platform. I don't think they can pull it off with something as exciting.

By the way, Infiniti follows BMW all over the place and in the long run it's not going to be successful doing that.

Python2121

If Infiniti builds a 1 series competitor with the 3.7 engine and stick and an option of a 5 door hatch I would buy it in a heartbeat (uhh...when I have a job)

GreenMonster

SMALL ?? Sure... but it's a pig @ almost 3700lbs... (3668lbs for a sport 6mt G37).

What Infiniti needs to do is come up with a lightweight RWD offering to counter the 1-series... The 128i weighs in @ 3252lbs so something closer to 3000bs would rock

Ghosn has hinted before about reviving the old Datsun name with a lineup of cheap lightweight rwd vehicles before...

Jackygor

That would be great! IMO, the Datsun name is pretty legendary. I am pretty sure the 1-series infiniti fighter would probably based on the next Silvia.

is300eater

Mokos23

Datsun would be pimp to make a comeback.

F23A4

^^ on the prior 4 posts.

Brandon24pdx

Do you not fucking understanding english or something?

Here's the cliff's notes: Infiniti attempting to beat BMW at anything besides price = FAIL

Mokos23

Infiniti needs to have more engine choices in their models and then they'll be more in the BMW realm. Like the 3 series has 3 choices there, 328, 335, and M3. 1 series has the 128 and 135. If Infiniti had a G25, G35, and maybe a G45/50, then they'll be on par with BMW.

I still would rock an Infiniti over a Lexus or Acura now.

Jackygor

I think more engine choice is an eventuality, but Infiniti still has a long way to go before they release a smaller or larger displacement engine for their current line up. Maybe if the 1-series fighter came with a turbo inline-4 then maybe that engine could serve as a lower trim displacement engine. But seeing as the direction Nissan/infiniti is heading now, I think they would be geared more towards reducing weight of the car instead.

oonowindoo

Just to name a few:
Interior, reliability and customer service

oonowindoo

and no i do Not "Understanding" your English and your infinitY

is300eater

***ask him what he meant about the Supra? and it's relevance?

agranado

dang, exciting.

And how the hell would an infiniti competitor with the 3.7 engine to the 1series not be a fucking blast to drive?

Hell, they could release a coupe to compete w/bmw, and a 5 dr. hatch to compete with
Audi both on the same platform...

Mokos23

well more engine choices with Infiniti cars the more broader range of customers would buy an Infiniti. Seriously, if the G20 was still around with the 4 cylinder that made 210 hp I would've bought that instead of a TSX.

F23A4

It would conceivable be a G25 using the Sentra SE-R Spec V motor. (Pure speculation on my part.) Even so (and though I am a Nissan guy), I would take a TSX over a QR25DE G25.

is300eater

but when Ghosn stepped in, wasn't that one of the first thing he wanted to do was to get rid of all 4 bangers (and FWD) over in the Infiniti line?

Mokos23

wow, what's the reason why you would choose the TSX over the G25?

oonowindoo

cuz TSX's got the

Mokos23

hahahahaha

titan

That's exactly what he did. It was the right call at the time, too. I'm not opposed to a turbo-four banger, but the Infiniti should definitely be RWD, IMO.

titan

Nah, a 1-Series compeititor that's a bit smaller than the G, a coupe, and RWD, would be hot with the QR25DE. It'd be awesome to toss around. The main issue would be weight. If they could keep the weight down, it'd be the shit.

F23A4

Moko was referencing the Primera based G20 NOT the FM based G35....as in newer version of the G20 (which likely would not be a 'G' at all, in order to avoid any confusion with the current G) as an alternative to the TSX:

That said, the QR25DE has had its share of problems and from my personal experience is nowhere near as refined as the K-series. (I wont even go into how problematic the QR has been for Nissan.) IMHO, when it comes to V6 motors, VQ > J-series...but when it comes to NA 4 cylinders, K>>QR and just about every other NA inline 4 on the market.