Infiniti planning a BMW 1-Series rival
05-01-2008, 05:22 PM
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Infiniti planning a BMW 1-Series rival
Mercedes-Benz is already hard at work on a BMW 1-Series competitor and now, according to a report by AutoCar, Infiniti is also looking for a BMW 1-Series and Audi A3 rival. Inside sources at Infiniti, told AutoCar that the automaker is planning a 1-Series rival that, design wise, will be totally different from anything in its segment.
Infiniti is looking at a small, high-end crossover or a coupe/cabriolet as body styles. The car is expected to arrive around 2010.
Our take? If it carries the 3.7 liter V6 producing 330-hp from the G37 coupe, BMW has something to worry about. We expect Lexus to follow with its own baby model.
05-01-2008, 05:24 PM
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Aawww sshhiittt... bring it on. Instead of a high-end coupe, I think it'd be wiser to go with the coupe/cabriolet body style, just like the 1-Series, IMO.
05-01-2008, 05:26 PM
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damn, dude... you beat me to this posting by ONE minute!!! 
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05-01-2008, 05:29 PM
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According to Autocar magazine, Infiniti is already hard at work developing the yet-to-be-named model. Nissan officials say the new model will be like nothing currently offered in the segment, indicating that Infiniti is working on an even smaller SUV to slot in below the recently launched EX35. 
However, there is still the strong possibility that the new model with be a coupe and/or convertible. Whatever the case, the new model shouldn't be a secret too much longer as Autocar says that Infiniti will launch the new vehicles in 2010.
However, there is still the strong possibility that the new model with be a coupe and/or convertible. Whatever the case, the new model shouldn't be a secret too much longer as Autocar says that Infiniti will launch the new vehicles in 2010.
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On a serious note, i think they could pull off a small coupe. Here we are with Infiniti looking at a smaller coupe and will probably succeed at it.
Too bad Acura fuxored that when they killed the Integra and the CL advancement. They already had the cars, just needed to make good decisions.
Too bad Acura fuxored that when they killed the Integra and the CL advancement. They already had the cars, just needed to make good decisions.
05-01-2008, 05:51 PM
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05-01-2008, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
On a serious note, i think they could pull off a small coupe. Here we are with Infiniti looking at a smaller coupe and will probably succeed at it.
Too bad Acura fuxored that when they killed the Integra and the CL advancement. They already had the cars, just needed to make good decisions.
Too bad Acura fuxored that when they killed the Integra and the CL advancement. They already had the cars, just needed to make good decisions.
05-01-2008, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TommySalami
Hopefully this will look better than the 1 series
05-01-2008, 06:25 PM
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ya know? I saw a 135i the other day at the tracks... and it didn't look that bad... I much rather still get the 335 tho...
05-02-2008, 01:40 AM
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if they can get a infiniti car that starts around $28,000 like the TSX w/o tech and be powered by a V6 engine and 250hp w/AWD as an option, dang i'll be the first in line.
05-02-2008, 11:50 AM
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If Infiniti brings out a coupe/vert with the 3.7 and hits a price point way under the g35, then we have a winner. But Infiniti has one thing to worry about that BMW doesnt. BMW was able to price the 1 close to the 3 and still sell both like hot cakes. If infinity makes the car too cheap, it could hurt nissan sales and if it's too expensive, it just wont sell like the G.
05-02-2008, 12:21 PM
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Seeing how the G sales are on a downward trend this was to be expected. For the first time in decades 1 in 5 cars sold are compact or subcompacts. The era of ever growing cars with more powerful engines is ending. Currently it's driven by gas prices but real soon it will be driven by EPA mileage rules. The luxury sector will not be immune from this.
For the life of me I don't know why Infiniti has not released a G25 - the signs were all there that they needed something with better mileage than the 35 which will go to 37 - no sign they'll go the diesel route for better mileage. I guess by going to a different design they cut some of the weight off the slightly porky G. If this will truly be available in two years it must have been on the drawing board for some time.
For the life of me I don't know why Infiniti has not released a G25 - the signs were all there that they needed something with better mileage than the 35 which will go to 37 - no sign they'll go the diesel route for better mileage. I guess by going to a different design they cut some of the weight off the slightly porky G. If this will truly be available in two years it must have been on the drawing board for some time.
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Originally Posted by bigman
If Infiniti brings out a coupe/vert with the 3.7 and hits a price point way under the g35, then we have a winner. But Infiniti has one thing to worry about that BMW doesnt. BMW was able to price the 1 close to the 3 and still sell both like hot cakes. If infinity makes the car too cheap, it could hurt nissan sales and if it's too expensive, it just wont sell like the G.
05-02-2008, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mokos23
why would it hurt nissan sales? nissan doesn't care cause they would love to make profit either way if you went to nissan or infiniti. personally i like infiniti more than nissan due to their better amenities
05-03-2008, 01:36 AM
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I should have used red text.
If audi can build a great 2.0T motor why couldn't Infiniti?
If audi can build a great 2.0T motor why couldn't Infiniti?
The turbocharged version of the G20 and Sentra SE-R engine powered great cars like the Nissan Silvia and the Nissan Pulsar GTiR (imagine a small sporty hatchback w/ the Skyline GTR's AWD system and a 230 hp motor).
The SR20DE and SR20DET could easily sustain over 400 hp on stock internals. It was a fantastic engine.
They also had a variable valve timing version of that motor called the SR20VET which put out about 280 hp stock.
05-03-2008, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AlterZgo
You guys are on crack. Nissan/Infiniti does/did make a fantastic 2 liter motor. Remember the SR20DE and SR20DET? Those engines were significantly stronger, more tuneable and much more reliable than the crappy Audi 2.0T motor.
The turbocharged version of the G20 and Sentra SE-R engine powered great cars like the Nissan Silvia and the Nissan Pulsar GTiR (imagine a small sporty hatchback w/ the Skyline GTR's AWD system and a 230 hp motor).
The SR20DE and SR20DET could easily sustain over 400 hp on stock internals. It was a fantastic engine.
They also had a variable valve timing version of that motor called the SR20VET which put out about 280 hp stock.
The turbocharged version of the G20 and Sentra SE-R engine powered great cars like the Nissan Silvia and the Nissan Pulsar GTiR (imagine a small sporty hatchback w/ the Skyline GTR's AWD system and a 230 hp motor).
The SR20DE and SR20DET could easily sustain over 400 hp on stock internals. It was a fantastic engine.
They also had a variable valve timing version of that motor called the SR20VET which put out about 280 hp stock.
05-03-2008, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
the EX35 is not an SUV/CUV! thing looks like a raised hatchback.
After checking one out firsthand I find that the EX is effectively a G35 wagon.
Back on topic, I do agree with Alter but the SR20 is a dead motor to Nissan and it is unlikely that the QR or MR motors will make their way into a US Infiniti showroom. I do picture a sub-300hp version of the VQ in a prospective 1-Series rival.
Originally Posted by bigman
If Infiniti brings out a coupe/vert with the 3.7 and hits a price point way under the g35, then we have a winner. But Infiniti has one thing to worry about that BMW doesnt. BMW was able to price the 1 close to the 3 and still sell both like hot cakes. If infinity makes the car too cheap, it could hurt nissan sales and if it's too expensive, it just wont sell like the G.
That is a reality that BMW did not have to worry about. (IMHO and similarly, Nissan may lose some G35 sales to the 2009 Maxima.)
05-03-2008, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by titan
I think a sub G coupe with JDM's 2.5L V6 as a base with an optional 3.7L V6 is a great idea.
There were rumors of a G25. With the G37 weighing in at 3600 lbs and the Altima 2.5 I4 weighs in at 3000lbs. Infiniti would need to come up with something in between these...
Now if they can put the 2.5L v6 in a lightweight package, they'll have a winner on their hands...
05-07-2008, 10:30 PM
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Blurry images of Infiniti 1-series fighter surface
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/07/b...ghter-surface/
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While Jonathan's shots of the new 370Z were seductively cryptic, these newest images from Car do more to confuse than enlighten. Car was attending a presentation by Nissan design chief Shiro Nakamura, and with their camera phone at the ready, snapped off a few shots of Infiniti's upcoming small sports car that looks more like Han Solo in carbonite than a swoopy coupe.
The Infiniti two-door is expected to debut sometime later this year in concept form, and is poised to take on the BMW 1-series in the compact coupe segment. The shape, even in the grainy pic, is decidedly different from anything else in its class, with a long hood and a cab-backward design that has plenty of potential.
Car also grabbed a shot of the Nissan 370Z, which appears to get some seriously styled wheel arches and a steeply raked windshield. But according to the Brit buff book's sources, the new Z will take several cues from the GT-R when it's unveiled later this year at the Los Angeles Auto Show.
The Infiniti two-door is expected to debut sometime later this year in concept form, and is poised to take on the BMW 1-series in the compact coupe segment. The shape, even in the grainy pic, is decidedly different from anything else in its class, with a long hood and a cab-backward design that has plenty of potential.
Car also grabbed a shot of the Nissan 370Z, which appears to get some seriously styled wheel arches and a steeply raked windshield. But according to the Brit buff book's sources, the new Z will take several cues from the GT-R when it's unveiled later this year at the Los Angeles Auto Show.
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Originally Posted by AlterZgo
You guys are on crack. Nissan/Infiniti does/did make a fantastic 2 liter motor. Remember the SR20DE and SR20DET? Those engines were significantly stronger, more tuneable and much more reliable than the crappy Audi 2.0T motor.
The turbocharged version of the G20 and Sentra SE-R engine powered great cars like the Nissan Silvia and the Nissan Pulsar GTiR (imagine a small sporty hatchback w/ the Skyline GTR's AWD system and a 230 hp motor).
The SR20DE and SR20DET could easily sustain over 400 hp on stock internals. It was a fantastic engine.
They also had a variable valve timing version of that motor called the SR20VET which put out about 280 hp stock.
The turbocharged version of the G20 and Sentra SE-R engine powered great cars like the Nissan Silvia and the Nissan Pulsar GTiR (imagine a small sporty hatchback w/ the Skyline GTR's AWD system and a 230 hp motor).
The SR20DE and SR20DET could easily sustain over 400 hp on stock internals. It was a fantastic engine.
They also had a variable valve timing version of that motor called the SR20VET which put out about 280 hp stock.
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Originally Posted by SRK85
I want turbo diesel damnit. Not another smaller car with a bigger engine.
05-08-2008, 08:21 AM
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that blurry pic sucks, looks like i'm looking at clouds. looks more like so far on the blurry pic more like a 350z covertible copy for the infiniti line. disappointing to me so far. i want a 4 dr sedan similar in size to the 1st gen TSX.
05-08-2008, 07:03 PM
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Nissan/Infiniti has all the tools and experience to defeat this 1 series. it is just if they decide to do it or not. put a updated version of SR20DET in a light weight body and sell it at below 30k, then you will be saying 1 series who??? 
05-08-2008, 07:13 PM
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not that I'm defending BMW or anything... it's not just about the power/weight/performance but... the styling too... Infiniti could fvck it up with some fugly design then people will still be drawn to the 1 series
