Infiniti: G-Series news **Next Generation Spied (page 75)**
06-12-2012, 01:21 AM
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06-12-2012, 01:23 AM
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06-12-2012, 04:51 AM
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I personally couldn't get over the fact that it only had a 1-2mpg advantage over the much more powerful G37. 
06-12-2012, 07:32 AM
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06-12-2012, 09:55 AM
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06-12-2012, 11:36 AM
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For the G25, it uses the same VQ architecture and same 7AT (with may be different ratios). It also has the same aerodynamic drag and same chassis. The main differences are less weight and may be smaller rims. Another example is the Lexus IS. The IS250 is only 1 mpg more efficient than the IS350 for the combined rating, despite a 100hp deficit.
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06-12-2012, 12:46 PM
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Eveyone will likely go the MB/BMW route - the lower end model will have a 4 cyl turbo to put some meanigful diff, mileage wise, between the models.
06-12-2012, 01:03 PM
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^^^^^
And Audi is also doing this too.
And Audi is also doing this too.
06-12-2012, 04:28 PM
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2012 328i 8AT: EPA - 23/33/26mpg
2012 335i 8AT: EPA - 23/33/26mpg
2012 C250 7AT: EPA - 21/31/25mpg
2012 C350 7AT: EPA - 20/29/23mpg (and this engine is getting old, at least not as new as the C250 one as far as I know)
The difference is not that big IMO.
06-12-2012, 07:05 PM
#2970
2G TLX-S
^^^^^
So it seems that the more forward gear ratios there are available inside the tranny, the better the fuel economy.
So it seems that the more forward gear ratios there are available inside the tranny, the better the fuel economy.
06-12-2012, 09:39 PM
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I think that's expected. Most people usually associate higher power with poor fuel economy. To an extent, that is true. The mpg losses usually come from things like heavier engine, more cylinders (4 cyl vs 6 cyl for instance) to move, and more pumping loss. On the other hand, a larger, more powerful engine in the same car doesn't work as hard as a smaller engine. The larger engine might shift up to the next gear at 2000rpm instead of 3000rpm while still having the same acceleration. Then there are some cars that have cylinder deactivating technology to shut down unnecessary cylinders. And in some cars, pumping loss has been reduced greatly (like the Civic). Given the above reasons, plus the fact that the engine in the G25 is from the same engine family as the G37, they share most part of the design and technologies. This is why engine downsizing doesn't work that well in the real world. We often see new turbocharged engines are rated better than their larger predecessors. The mpg gain doesn't just come from the turbo system, but the newer engines are also more technologically advanced (ie. DI, less friction, higher compression ratio, variable intake manifolds, start-stop tech, plus a bunch of other technologies). These newer engines are also usually mated with newer, more efficient transmission with better torque converter and gears.
For the G25, it uses the same VQ architecture and same 7AT (with may be different ratios). It also has the same aerodynamic drag and same chassis. The main differences are less weight and may be smaller rims. Another example is the Lexus IS. The IS250 is only 1 mpg more efficient than the IS350 for the combined rating, despite a 100hp deficit.
For the G25, it uses the same VQ architecture and same 7AT (with may be different ratios). It also has the same aerodynamic drag and same chassis. The main differences are less weight and may be smaller rims. Another example is the Lexus IS. The IS250 is only 1 mpg more efficient than the IS350 for the combined rating, despite a 100hp deficit.
06-13-2012, 07:55 PM
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09-26-2012, 08:16 PM
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09-26-2012, 10:03 PM
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I see Audi
09-26-2012, 10:13 PM
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Seems to be using a similar style to the way they designed the front of the JRX...?
09-26-2012, 10:23 PM
#2978
The 3-Series is unfortunately so ugly looking in the front IMO.
09-26-2012, 10:58 PM
#2979
First thought upon seeing front end was Nissan Maxima.
Looking good from what can be seen.
Looking good from what can be seen.
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09-27-2012, 08:46 AM
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09-27-2012, 10:27 AM
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waiting for a GTR powered G series 
09-27-2012, 10:49 AM
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I see Altima/Maxima
09-28-2012, 12:07 AM
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09-28-2012, 06:32 AM
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Interesting that the Altima and Maxima still seem to be going in the same styling direction as the JX and 3G G (and vice versa). While that's not a bad thing, it kind of hinders styling differentiation between lineups.
10-08-2012, 11:51 PM
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More spy pics, looks like sports package equipped G.
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/10...nfiniti-g.html
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/10...nfiniti-g.html
10-09-2012, 01:54 AM
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I'm liking what little I can see.
10-12-2012, 07:39 PM
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Nobody hinders styling differential then BMW. A 3,5, and 7 series look exactly the same except each one is longer than the last one.
10-12-2012, 09:10 PM
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10-22-2012, 10:40 PM
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It looks like the 2014 G will be shown off at the Detroit Auto Show in January. Just 3 months or so away.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/22/2...o-show-reveal/
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/22/2...o-show-reveal/
10-23-2012, 01:04 AM
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New NSX and this... nice.
10-23-2012, 02:38 AM
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All I want in new G is a 6MT mated to that sweeeeeeeet acronym soup awd system and at least 330hp. Too much to ask?
what do you get when an angry bird hits a Camry?
G4 TL
but thanks to that, resale value on G3 has been holding well. Wish I could want a single new acura product today, but there is zero. Ok 1 - NSX.
what do you get when an angry bird hits a Camry?
G4 TL
but thanks to that, resale value on G3 has been holding well. Wish I could want a single new acura product today, but there is zero. Ok 1 - NSX.
10-23-2012, 05:44 PM
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The sizzle in the Steak
Please no angry catfish!
Please no bulbous looking exterior!!
Please no bulbous looking exterior!!
10-23-2012, 06:17 PM
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10-23-2012, 06:35 PM
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The sizzle in the Steak
^^^ 
Please, say it aint so!!!!!!!!!!
I'm gonna wait, and hope for the final debut.
Please, say it aint so!!!!!!!!!!I'm gonna wait, and hope for the final debut.
10-23-2012, 06:38 PM
#2996
Infinitys all look like sea monsters.. great lease rates though.
10-23-2012, 06:39 PM
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The sizzle in the Steak
@ sea monsters.There was a time when they didn't.
10-23-2012, 07:00 PM
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Almost makes me wonder why I am paying mine down so quickly. I could just lease for half of my payment and get a new car every 2 years or so 
Oh yeah, I don't want payments for a few years and start paying myself.
Oh yeah, I don't want payments for a few years and start paying myself.
10-23-2012, 07:03 PM
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You will have a double clutch set up too in case you are used to driving moving trucks from the 70s.
10-23-2012, 07:11 PM
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Even from a distance you can tell the interior materials have improved as well.
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