Infiniti: G-Series news **Next Generation Spied (page 75)**
08-13-2010, 08:32 AM
#2761
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http://www.autoblog.com/2010/08/13/2...ced-at-30-950/
The Infiniti line-up is set to expand this September with the introduction of the G25, a new entry-level sedan packing all the amenities of its bigger brother, but with less power and a budget-minded price tag.
By all outward appearances, the G25 is your standard G sedan with a new badge, but under the hood lies the same 2.5-liter V6 that's been available in Japan since 2008. For an MSRP of $30,950, the G25 packs 218 horsepower and 187 pound-feet of torque channeled through a standard seven-speed automatic gearbox and – depending on the trim – can be had in either rear-wheel or all-wheel drive.
The standard G25, G25 Journey or G25x (AWD) come equipped with leather and power-adjustable seats, automatic climate control, six-speaker audio, 17-inch aluminum wheels, HID Xenon headlamps and the normal array of electo-nannies. An optional RearView monitor and dual-zone temperature control, along with heated front seats and outside mirrors, are available on the Journey.
All told, a completely maxed out G25 will set you back about the same amount of coin as a bone-stock G37 sedan – not a bad deal considering everything that's included. Hit the jump for the full details and expect driving impressions late next month.
By all outward appearances, the G25 is your standard G sedan with a new badge, but under the hood lies the same 2.5-liter V6 that's been available in Japan since 2008. For an MSRP of $30,950, the G25 packs 218 horsepower and 187 pound-feet of torque channeled through a standard seven-speed automatic gearbox and – depending on the trim – can be had in either rear-wheel or all-wheel drive.
The standard G25, G25 Journey or G25x (AWD) come equipped with leather and power-adjustable seats, automatic climate control, six-speaker audio, 17-inch aluminum wheels, HID Xenon headlamps and the normal array of electo-nannies. An optional RearView monitor and dual-zone temperature control, along with heated front seats and outside mirrors, are available on the Journey.
All told, a completely maxed out G25 will set you back about the same amount of coin as a bone-stock G37 sedan – not a bad deal considering everything that's included. Hit the jump for the full details and expect driving impressions late next month.
08-13-2010, 09:27 AM
#2762
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G25
PEBBLE BEACH, Calif., Aug. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Infiniti today announced a new addition to the popular Infiniti G Line, the G25 Sedan, which features a 2.5-liter V6 engine. It is scheduled to go on sale at Infiniti retailers nationwide in September, joining the Infiniti G37 Sedan, G37 Coupe and G37 Convertible. It will have a starting Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price* (MSRP) of $30,950 USD.
"With the new G25 Sedan, we're broadening the appeal of the G Line with a model designed to provide an additional choice for buyers looking for a true luxury sedan, but who might not need the higher levels of performance provided by our larger engine-equipped G37 models," said Infiniti Vice President Ben Poore, speaking at a media event at the 60th annual Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance. "The G25 is positioned in the heart of the luxury sport sedan market, allowing us to bring Infiniti's Inspired Performance to a wider selection of buyers."
The new 2011 Infiniti G25 Sedan shares the same dynamic exterior, interior and chassis as the G37, but with a smaller displacement engine. The 2.5-liter DOHC 24-valve V6 produces 218 horsepower and 187 lb-ft of torque, versus the G37's 3.7-liter DOHC 24-valve V6's 328 horsepower and 269 lb-ft of torque. The G25 Sedan comes with a standard 7-speed automatic transmission and is available in both rear-wheel drive and intelligent all-wheel drive. Three models are offered: G25 Sedan, G25 Sedan Journey and G25x Sedan AWD.
The G25 Sedan's extensive list of standard equipment includes leather-appointed seating, Shodo aluminum interior trim, 8-way power driver's seat and 4-way power front passenger's seat, Automatic Temperature Control, premium audio system with six speakers, XM® Satellite Radio (XM® subscription required, sold separately) and much more.
Other standard features range from 17-inch aluminum-alloy wheels, High Intensity Discharge (HID) Xenon headlights, 4-wheel Anti-lock Disc Braking System (ABS), Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC) and Traction Control System (TCS).
The G25 Journey model adds RearView Monitor, heated front seats, heated outside mirrors, auto on/off headlights, Dual Zone Automatic Temperature Control and more.
"While the G25 Sedan serves as the entry into the G line, it still offers an impressive array of luxury features – from leather-appointed seats to satellite radio," said Poore. "With inspired style and performance – backed by our unique customer care philosophy, the Infiniti Total Ownership Experience® – we are confident the new G25 will attract a lot of attention in the marketplace."
08-13-2010, 09:33 AM
#2763
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It will be interesting to see if Infiniti will break out the G25 sales in their monthly reports. I think a lot of the G25 sales will come out of would-be G37 sales.
08-13-2010, 09:36 AM
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I applaud Nissan for trying to expand the Infiniti brand. But I'm not sure what they are trying to accomplish with adding this cheaper underpowered G. I mean, I understand they are trying to sell more cars. That's understood. But does this help the brand (and G model) image or hurt it? I don't know. Just asking the question.
08-13-2010, 09:41 AM
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I think it helps. Gives consumers an alternative to the TSX and will help push more people into the brand with a lower price of entry. A younger buyer may start with a G25 then move on to an EX or FX once they start a family hmmmm.
08-13-2010, 10:05 AM
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I applaud Nissan for trying to expand the Infiniti brand. But I'm not sure what they are trying to accomplish with adding this cheaper underpowered G. I mean, I understand they are trying to sell more cars. That's understood. But does this help the brand (and G model) image or hurt it? I don't know. Just asking the question.
I doubt the G25 will be underpowered. Many people don't need 0-60 in under 6 seconds. I certainly don't which is why I'm perfectly happy with my TSX, and I'd bet that the G25 will be a bit faster than it. If for some reason my TSX needed replacing (and hopefully it won't for a while!) I'd put the G25 on my to-shop list. On the other hand if my financial situation changed in a positive direction I'd look at the G37 and skip the G25. It's all about getting the best you can for your dollar.
08-13-2010, 10:23 AM
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The 2.5-liter DOHC 24-valve V6 produces 218 horsepower and 187 lb-ft of torque...
08-13-2010, 10:46 AM
#2769
Go Big Blue!
They're trying to increase sales, of course.
I doubt the G25 will be underpowered. Many people don't need 0-60 in under 6 seconds. I certainly don't which is why I'm perfectly happy with my TSX, and I'd bet that the G25 will be a bit faster than it. If for some reason my TSX needed replacing (and hopefully it won't for a while!) I'd put the G25 on my to-shop list. On the other hand if my financial situation changed in a positive direction I'd look at the G37 and skip the G25. It's all about getting the best you can for your dollar.
I doubt the G25 will be underpowered. Many people don't need 0-60 in under 6 seconds. I certainly don't which is why I'm perfectly happy with my TSX, and I'd bet that the G25 will be a bit faster than it. If for some reason my TSX needed replacing (and hopefully it won't for a while!) I'd put the G25 on my to-shop list. On the other hand if my financial situation changed in a positive direction I'd look at the G37 and skip the G25. It's all about getting the best you can for your dollar.
08-13-2010, 11:38 AM
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What did you expect? For relatively not a lot of money you get a car that performs like a TSX (or better), is RWD, has the smoothness and sound of the V6, and is a decent size unlike the IS 250.
Most buyers don't even know that the gas pedal can be pressed all the way.
I bet this will take a lot of sales from the TSX and IS, just the basic layout makes this car superior and the only reason the TSX and IS would win is if the buyer prefers the interior/exterior styling on those cars.
Most buyers don't even know that the gas pedal can be pressed all the way.
I bet this will take a lot of sales from the TSX and IS, just the basic layout makes this car superior and the only reason the TSX and IS would win is if the buyer prefers the interior/exterior styling on those cars.
08-13-2010, 11:43 AM
#2771
I applaud Nissan for trying to expand the Infiniti brand. But I'm not sure what they are trying to accomplish with adding this cheaper underpowered G. I mean, I understand they are trying to sell more cars. That's understood. But does this help the brand (and G model) image or hurt it? I don't know. Just asking the question.
The only disappointment is the lack of a manual.
08-13-2010, 11:48 AM
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08-13-2010, 11:56 AM
#2774
Go Big Blue!
Depends what image you are trying to project I suppose. Both BMW, Audi, and Lexus already have a large lineup and sell a 200"+ sedan that reaches into the 70's and above. For brand cache, it will probably hurt them. Certainly will annoy the G37 buyers as it will put a lot more look alikes on the road and hurt the exclusivity of it. But that is obviously ok with Nissan and who am I too say its a bad move. making money is the name of the game. I'd just hope they have plans to expand the top end of their lineup soon too. More than just a smallish trimmed out japanese rebadge. I mean a real large American market sedan
08-13-2010, 12:12 PM
#2775
The sizzle in the Steak
This is going to kill G37 sales.
08-13-2010, 12:24 PM
#2776
Go Big Blue!
Like the 328 kills 335 sales? I guess so. But without the 328 and C300, those brands wouldnt have 1/3 the customers they now have. So is that a bad thing? The cars all look identical to the average buyer so, for badge whores, the 328 and C300 are the smart purchase.
Problem is, Infiniti doesn't have the brand cache that BMW and Mercedes have and I'm not sure they can afford to dilute the brand image like those others can with an "imitation" version of a properly balanced model.
Will the G25 hurt G37 sales? Absolutely. But I'm wondering if it will indirectly hurt M sales too in the long run and the image of the brand.
Problem is, Infiniti doesn't have the brand cache that BMW and Mercedes have and I'm not sure they can afford to dilute the brand image like those others can with an "imitation" version of a properly balanced model.
Will the G25 hurt G37 sales? Absolutely. But I'm wondering if it will indirectly hurt M sales too in the long run and the image of the brand.
08-13-2010, 12:51 PM
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08-13-2010, 12:54 PM
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08-13-2010, 12:55 PM
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08-13-2010, 01:09 PM
#2782
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Did Infiniti really say that or is that more blogisphere BS. If they did then they are smoking something good. They couldn't have said that or even suggested it with those specs.
Someone post a quote from Infiniti if they have it because that would top the quote from Acura that they want to be a Maybach
Someone post a quote from Infiniti if they have it because that would top the quote from Acura that they want to be a Maybach
08-13-2010, 01:18 PM
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M-sport S-line competition definitely not an AMG M or V killer.
08-13-2010, 01:20 PM
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Did Infiniti really say that or is that more blogisphere BS. If they did then they are smoking something good. They couldn't have said that or even suggested it with those specs.
Someone post a quote from Infiniti if they have it because that would top the quote from Acura that they want to be a Maybach
Someone post a quote from Infiniti if they have it because that would top the quote from Acura that they want to be a Maybach
08-13-2010, 01:47 PM
#2785
The sizzle in the Steak
08-13-2010, 02:17 PM
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08-13-2010, 02:18 PM
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I applaud Nissan for trying to expand the Infiniti brand. But I'm not sure what they are trying to accomplish with adding this cheaper underpowered G. I mean, I understand they are trying to sell more cars. That's understood. But does this help the brand (and G model) image or hurt it? I don't know. Just asking the question.
The G37 will be aimed at the 335i, S60 T6, or IS350. The G25 would face off againt the 328i, forthcoming S60 T5, and IS250.
Simple as that. I don't think it hurts the image at all either. By a new G is due for 2013 right? That would be the time to address its lught power and torque figures. It's above the current IS250's 205 hp/185 tq but already behind the 230 hp/200 tq in the 328i and the next version will be +10 hp/+ 20 tq.
The G makes up over half of Infiniti sales and is nothing close to exclusive as it is.
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08-13-2010, 02:23 PM
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lol smartass 
. I don't think it will "kill" their sales. It may slightly affect it, but if overall sales of the G go up while specific 37 numbers have a slight drop Nissan won't mind. If it cannibilizes sales then I'd agree.
. I don't think it will "kill" their sales. It may slightly affect it, but if overall sales of the G go up while specific 37 numbers have a slight drop Nissan won't mind. If it cannibilizes sales then I'd agree.
08-13-2010, 02:24 PM
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08-13-2010, 04:25 PM
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The sizzle in the Steak
08-13-2010, 04:51 PM
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Well, the next gen G is going to be due for 2012 or 2013. I personally would have liked to seen the G25 in a different body style, size, etc from the G37, but I can understand why Infiniti chose to keep the G37 except make the smaller engine, name change, and option choices. They want to test the waters with this G25 in the entry-level lux segement.
They don't know for sure yet how it's going to sell. This will be the first time they'll have a competitor to the TSX, A4, 328i, C300, IS250, etc. They'll put it out, see how it sells for 1-2 years.
It is my hope that if it sells well, when they go and do the 3G G-Sedan for 2012 or 2013, they make the G25 a completely different model from the G37 or what ever name it gets then so that it looks different from one another.
At this point though, they are just getting their feet wet and see how the G25 does. Glad to see they have a better priced/equipped entry-level model. If they market, sell, and promote it right, it should help boost their overall sales.
They don't know for sure yet how it's going to sell. This will be the first time they'll have a competitor to the TSX, A4, 328i, C300, IS250, etc. They'll put it out, see how it sells for 1-2 years.
It is my hope that if it sells well, when they go and do the 3G G-Sedan for 2012 or 2013, they make the G25 a completely different model from the G37 or what ever name it gets then so that it looks different from one another.
At this point though, they are just getting their feet wet and see how the G25 does. Glad to see they have a better priced/equipped entry-level model. If they market, sell, and promote it right, it should help boost their overall sales.
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08-13-2010, 04:53 PM
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08-13-2010, 06:19 PM
#2793
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08-13-2010, 06:33 PM
#2794
That body kit is terrible especially considering it'll be a factory option. Doesn't flow with the car's lines at all. The slight power bump and red interior is nice though 
but I can't help but think someone could easily make the same amount of power through bolt-ons for much less.
but I can't help but think someone could easily make the same amount of power through bolt-ons for much less.
08-13-2010, 07:15 PM
#2796
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What did you expect? For relatively not a lot of money you get a car that performs like a TSX (or better), is RWD, has the smoothness and sound of the V6, and is a decent size unlike the IS 250.
Most buyers don't even know that the gas pedal can be pressed all the way.
I bet this will take a lot of sales from the TSX and IS, just the basic layout makes this car superior and the only reason the TSX and IS would win is if the buyer prefers the interior/exterior styling on those cars.
Most buyers don't even know that the gas pedal can be pressed all the way.
I bet this will take a lot of sales from the TSX and IS, just the basic layout makes this car superior and the only reason the TSX and IS would win is if the buyer prefers the interior/exterior styling on those cars.
However when it is compared to say an A4 @ 210hp (and ridiculously overpriced imo) it seems like a bit of a bargain.
The G25 will probably do well within the market place.
08-13-2010, 08:22 PM
#2797
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With a torque level that low, the G25 may lure Honda fans. 
I was sort of expecting a VQ30DE-k level of power output. (i.e.: 227hp-217lb-ft)
I was sort of expecting a VQ30DE-k level of power output. (i.e.: 227hp-217lb-ft)
08-13-2010, 11:12 PM
#2798
It will have plenty of pep for it's intended audience. The 2.5 straight six in my old 325Ci wasn't fast by any means, but it wasn't considerably less fun to drive than the Z I had, even thought it was rated at like 120 hp less.
08-14-2010, 06:49 AM
#2799
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I try and resist commenting much on looks because it's so subjective and what does it matter what I think. But I have to agree that doesn't look right. There's too much going on around the bottom and it just doesn't flow with what's above
08-14-2010, 06:58 AM
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The G25 is only $3000 less than the G37, but is down over 100 hp and nearly 100 lb-ft of torque. That doesn't sound like a good proposition to me. At least there is a $6000 price differential between the I4 TSX and V6 TL, justifying the existence of the TSX.