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Old 07-19-2008, 01:20 PM
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Just checed the inventory here in Indianapolis, IN. Butler Hyundai dealer got 3 in stock..... mmmm~~... I'm gonna go check it out today.


I made the mistake of driving an S4 before the Genesis and now I'm done looking. I'm going to wait for them to come down a bit and then go trade in the Speed3. Probably in the fall.

The S4 is the perfect car for me.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I made the mistake of driving an S4 before the Genesis and now I'm done looking. I'm going to wait for them to come down a bit and then go trade in the Speed3. Probably in the fall.

The S4 is the perfect car for me.
LOL funny you should say that. I went to the Hyundai dealer and they only had 1 Genesis V6 in stock. It was parked outside the showroom and the car looked dirty.. the color is ugly too. It had those factory 17" little wheels with FAT tires.. I am aware of having fat tires but damn.. when I actually looked at they were as fat as some jeep or hummer tires lol. It gives me an impression of some Lincoln Towncar which is good for grandma and grandpa.. I'm use to driving my brand new Lexus IS350 Sport and I must've got seriously spoiled... Now I look at this Genesis on the lot and didn't impress me one single bit... the car looks too generic. There were nobody there to help me with the car anyway so I didn't test drive or anything. I just headed back to my IS350 and took off....


The Genesis really needs the following to get some attention to young people:

- Needs a few inch drop. 2.5" drop in the front. 2" drop in the rear.
- 19" or 20" super-light wheels with low profile tires. Fat tires gotta go......
- Exterior color needs to be either black, or red burgendy or something. Any other color gives the impression of old granny car..
- Needs a spoiler on the back.
- Needs aggressive exhaust tips as shown in the pics earlier



LOLz.....



Btw, nice choice you made there. S4 is a sweet car with spirit......

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hyundai must recognize that they can sell this to young people(mid 20's+) simply because genesis can be pimped out with few tricks. they are overly concerned with the targeted demographics like my pop who loves fat tires for comfort. they are trying to steal avalon and ES buyers, but this can have much more wider appeal IMO. the car looks sick when done right.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I made the mistake of driving an S4 before the Genesis and now I'm done looking. I'm going to wait for them to come down a bit and then go trade in the Speed3. Probably in the fall.

The S4 is the perfect car for me.
I still think you should try out the Genesis sedan to see what it's all about. I'm going monday.

The S4 is a nice sedan, I had the S4 Avant on order sometimes last year but ended up dropping it. That V8 sounds pretty good and the MT is nicely weighted to it. You should try an E39 M5 if you can, it's the same kind of feeling only a little larger with more power.
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Just e-mail a dealership...No play on price (on the v6)...
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Just e-mail a dealership...No play on price (on the v6)...
How much $ are they asking?
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How much $ are they asking?
$37K with nav (V6)
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Originally Posted by chungkopi
hyundai must recognize that they can sell this to young people(mid 20's+) simply because genesis can be pimped out with few tricks. they are overly concerned with the targeted demographics like my pop who loves fat tires for comfort. they are trying to steal avalon and ES buyers, but this can have much more wider appeal IMO. the car looks sick when done right.
This targeted demographic is what Hyundai needs to get a hand on first.

Like Lexus.
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$37K with nav (V6)
I think that's pretty good. The local dealer is asking 36k with no nav and that is with no markup or anything.
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i'm glad hyundai didn't experiment on design because acura just proved that over-styling ruins everything..
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Aftermarket Tuner Companies check out the Genesis Coupe

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In an unusual move, Hyundai invited 20 aftermarket companies to come to its North American headquarters and take detailed measurements of its 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe. The session will allow the aftermarket companies to get a head start on developing performance-boosting parts for the car ahead of its debut. At the same time, Hyundai announced it will offer Track versions of both the turbo four and V6-powered cars.


Fittingly, the automaker’s headquarters are based in Fountain Valley, California, not too far from the majority of the aftermarket tuners. Hyundai called the exercise its official SEMA measuring session, as the annual SEMA show acts as the breeding ground for the most modified new cars in the industry.

The invited companies ranged from seat cover maker Wet Okole Hawaii to forced induction specialists HKS and Garrett-Honeywell, say Inside Line reports. The latter companies were especially interested in the base car’s 2.0-liter turbocharged engine, as it is closely related to the engine in the latest rally-inspired Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution. In the Genesis coupe, it makes 223 horsepower as opposed to 290, and sits longitudinally-mounted as it powers the rear wheels.

The 310 horsepower V6 will also get some attention, as Gale Banks Engineering plans to produce a supercharger for it. The four-cylinder will also get updates to its turbo and intercooler systems from the company.

The automaker also said Track versions of the coupe will be offered, offering more aggressive suspension tunes, a front strut tower brace, and Brembo brakes all around, with one-piece, four-piston calipers up front.

In addition to retuned suspension compared to the standard versions of the coupe, the Genesis Track models will pick up a front strut tower brace and a full set of Brembo brakes, including four-piston monobloc calipers up front. Both Track models will sport softer Bridgestone Potenza RE050A summer tires, sized 225/40R19 up front and 245/40R19 in back, which are lower-profile and an inch larger than the standard cars, but of the same width.

The first cars are due to arrive at dealership in February of 2009.
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Hyundai is doing everything right this time. Seriously. I truly hope that Genesis will be a big hit for them.
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jesus Hyundai wants the sport market real bad and it's gonna get it. This is really cool
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The sedan handles great. The coupe needs some work in the handling department.

It's nice to see tuners being invited so they can get an early start on parts development, but I sure hope that wasn't HMA's fix in improving its handling and ride.

I just hope that once I get behind the wheel of a production coupe, it will feel like a different car than the prototype.
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
The sedan handles great. The coupe needs some work in the handling department.

It's nice to see tuners being invited so they can get an early start on parts development, but I sure hope that wasn't HMA's fix in improving its handling and ride.

I just hope that once I get behind the wheel of a production coupe, it will feel like a different car than the prototype.
Hey Pure Adrenaline,

In your opinion, do you think the I4 has a greater "mod-ability" than the V6? I mean, I've read that the I4 is a detuned Evo engine, but I don't know a thing about Hyundai's V6 engines.

Figured I'd ask someone who's an employee of Hyundai.
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wow.

When I was driving my IS350 on the street today I saw a rear LED tail lights a head. I got closer and realized it was a BLACK Genesis sedan. Wow. It gave me the impression, a good one. The car looked classy and sharp! and looked sexy... It looked nothing like the one ugly colored Genesis I saw parked outside of the showroom in Butler Hyundai dealer here in Indianapolis. I knew it.... the color makes a big difference in impression. Man ya need to get the black one..... Oh and... my Mom saw one too today! She said it looked like LED tail lights on the rear and the car looked bigger than the Sonata...

I would like to see more these hot rods on the street.. These are cool.


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Oh and... my Mom saw one too today! She said it looked like LED tail lights on the rear and the car looked bigger than the Sonata...

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well, she could've seen an Azera... its bigger than a sonata and has LED tail lights.

but yeah, the Genesis looks good in dark colors
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Originally Posted by BraveDemon
Hey Pure Adrenaline,

In your opinion, do you think the I4 has a greater "mod-ability" than the V6? I mean, I've read that the I4 is a detuned Evo engine, but I don't know a thing about Hyundai's V6 engines.

Figured I'd ask someone who's an employee of Hyundai.
The inline 4 engine is based on the world engine architecture produced by Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance. GEMA is a joint venture among Hyundai, Mitsubishi and Chrysler.

If you want to put down insane power, go for the I-4. If you want a daily driver that can get you moving quicker stock-to-stock, then get the V6. Our V6s are very solid. The 3.8L V6 is already powering the Veracruz, Entourage, Azera and of course, the Genesis sedan. I've driven all four, some more than others, and they are silky smooth with very good power. In fact, they have been reviewed as "I thought this was a Toyota engine." "Even better than Toyota engines." by renowned car magazines.

As car enthusiasts here, it just depends on what you are looking for. If you plan to modify to the stratosphere, then I really would say go for the I-4. Though it has less power in stock trim, the potential is higher, because it will have a much bigger aftermarket support base. The V6, while very good, is currently lacking aftermarket support and upon launch of the car, I think aftermarket companies will be focusing more on the I-4, anyway.

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A guy just came into my dealership in a Genesis Sedan, he was on a test drive and stopped by to look at the Porsches.

The window sticker on the Hyindai had an addendum on it......
Market Adjustment+ $3000
Nitrogen in Tires + $50

They are actually selling (trying to at least) Hyundais for $3000 OVER MSRP!!!!
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Full Test: 2009 Hyundai Genesis V6

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By Donna DeRosa, Managing Editor
Date posted: 08-05-2008


Shhh. Do not disturb the 2009 Hyundai Genesis V6. It may be the quietest car we've ever driven. It would be rude to interrupt it.

As Hyundai's newest creation slips slyly into the luxury sedan market, we can hear the silent screams of some other fancy automakers.

This car is nice. Really nice. Like why-would-we-spend-our-money-anywhere-else nice. It's the Cadillac of Hyundais.

What It Is
All new, the 2009 Hyundai Genesis is a large, rear-wheel-drive sedan, wrapped in leather and full of luxury and comfort features.

We slipped in and found ourselves surrounded by soft surfaces and quality materials. The seat leather was black while the dash was wrapped in a rich tone of brown leather set off by contrasting stitching. We pushed our finger into the dash and discovered it wasn't just covered, it was cushioned. It even smelled expensive. How much does this car cost?

Well, the 2009 Hyundai Genesis V6 starts at $32,250 and the Premium Plus option brings the price of this test car to an even $36,000.

Other features included in the option package were all the little things that make the difference between a car like an every-day Hyundai Sonata and this Lexus-style Hyundai Genesis V6: 18-inch wheels and tires, power sunroof, tilt and telescoping steering column with a leather-trimmed steering wheel, rain-sensing wipers, auto-defogging windshield, power rear sunshade and a 14-speaker Lexicon audio system that you can control with thumb power on the steering wheel.

Hyundai's Genesis doesn't really match up to any other car at this price. At a length of 195.9 inches overall on a 115.6-inch wheelbase, it's about the size of a Nissan Maxima or Pontiac G8 and a little larger than a Mercedes E-Class and Lexus ES 350. But there's more to all this than dimensions, because the Genesis is its own animal.

Gentle Giant
One of the first things we noticed about the 2009 Hyundai Genesis is its quietness. This is in part due to the acoustic laminated glass, yet even with the windows down and miles behind us on the highway, this car is soft-spoken. We're talking hybrid hush, meditation-room tranquility. Our readings from the sound-level meter show the Hyundai Genesis recorded fewer decibels than a Toyota Prius. It seems everything about the Genesis is quiet: the cabin, the engine and even the style.

It's calming to pilot a car so peaceful, but don't mistake this for a suggestion that this car is asleep. The 3.8-liter, 290-horsepower V6 might be quiet but it's not shy on performance. It offers 264 pound-feet of torque at 3,500 rpm, so acceleration is authoritative as well as smooth, and quick shifts from the six-speed automatic transmission are sufficient for merging into freeway traffic. You can also shift for yourself if you are so inclined (although you probably won't be).

In our track tests, the Hyundai Genesis moves from zero to 60 mph in 6.3 seconds (6.1 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip) and manages the quarter-mile in 14.6 seconds at 95.6 mph. The car shifts before redline in manual mode, which can be annoying when you're wringing it out at the track. Altogether, these are pretty good numbers for a luxury sedan that weighs 3,862 pounds.

It Is Enough
There is a 368-hp V8 available for the Genesis but we don't see why you would need it. The V8 offers more power, but it doesn't really deliver more performance. The Genesis V8 manages 60 mph in 5.9 seconds, and the 0.4-second improvement doesn't exactly spin your head around. Save yourself some headache at the gas pump and stick with the more fuel-efficient V6 that delivers 18 mpg city/27 mpg highway. We never found a situation where we felt we needed more oomph.

In our deceleration tests, the Hyundai Genesis's disc brakes and Dunlop SP Sport 5000M tires bring the car down from 60 mph in 117 feet. Pedal feel is excellent and the response is quick. In repeated high-performance testing, however, the brakes faded quickly. We first chalked this up to brake pads that were relatively new and not yet thoroughly bedded in, but then we encountered the same glitch when we tested the Genesis V8. At the same time, we had no problems under normal conditions and the brakes performed as expected with clean, straight stops.

Skid pad and slalom testing numbers were also impressive for a 3,862-pound car that carries 52.2 percent of its weight up front. It pulls 0.83g on the skid pad, a good number limited by the intervention of the stability control. It navigated our 600-foot slalom course at 62.8 mph. The steering could offer a little more feedback, yet the Genesis V6 is well-behaved and actually performs slightly better in our handling tests than the V8 and feels better doing it.

With a well-tuned suspension both front and rear, the Genesis V6 offers a good balance between comfort and agility, offering good damping over the bumps and not much wobble or body roll in the corners.

Not Just for Drivers
Shotgun passengers in the Genesis V6 get their own climate controls and a heated power seat. The A/C has a good variety of levels, and we appreciate that the lowest setting is really low and the system has the potential to crank up icily when you need it. Front legroom is more than other cars of this size at 44.3 inches, while headroom is also better at 40.4 inches.

Rear passengers are not forgotten. The Genesis has a backseat that actually accommodates humans who stand over 6 feet tall, and you can easily fall asleep in the soft, enveloping cushions. Even better, the backseat is roomy even with the front seats all the way back, as rear legroom is generous at 38.6 inches and there are 37.7 inches of headroom. The rear-seat A/C vents are mounted on the B-pillars, so rear passengers get cool air on their bodies instead of just their knees.

You could easily fit a couple of child seats in the rear seat of this luxury sedan and the rear power window shade can keep the sun off their sweet little heads. Or just fill the back with suitcases and get outta town. The rear seats do not fold down, although you can access the trunk via the pass-through behind the center armrest.

Speaking of the trunk, the Genesis offers 16 cubic feet of cargo capacity with a mesh tie-down to keep your goodies from rolling around. A major expedition to the outlet mall might be in order.

Bright Lights, Big City
As an everyday car, the Hyundai Genesis is a pretty sweet ride. But it also makes you look smart. Its design is quietly elegant. The car has clean lines with no harsh angles and seams. The front and rear lamps look interesting but are not showy. The Genesis doesn't scream "look at me." Its beauty is refreshingly subtle.

When you open the door, the interior lighting is bright — you know, in case someone wants to peek inside to get a look at that handsome dash. The instrument panel's design is restrained, featuring simple, clear readouts and intuitive controls. It has all the bells and whistles you expect in a modern luxury car, without the gazillion buttons.

Name Brand, Outlet Mall Price
The 2009 Hyundai Genesis V6 is a thoroughly thought-out example of the modern luxury car, a careful assembly of all the features and all the performance that make a car special rather than just ordinary. It's everything we expect.

We're not suggesting Hyundai is ready to steal customers away from BMW or Mercedes-Benz, but Cadillac and Lexus are within reach, we think. With Cadillac and Lexus, the issue of value is as important as refinement, and in this the $36,000 Hyundai Genesis V6 makes a major statement.

To paraphrase fashion designer Coco Chanel, "True luxury is the silk lining of a coat. Only you know it's there." This is the kind of luxury that feels wonderful against your skin, yet no one can see it. And that's why the Hyundai Genesis doesn't have "luxury" stamped across its grille. This is a different statement from the Korean automaker, one that promises a quiet appreciation that content matters more than simple branding. The Hyundai Genesis is the kind of sedan that will quietly transport you around town in secret sumptuousness.

Tell your friends, but remember to whisper.
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We're not suggesting Hyundai is ready to steal customers away from BMW or Mercedes-Benz, but Cadillac and Lexus are within reach, we think. With Cadillac and Lexus, the issue of value is as important as refinement, and in this the $36,000 Hyundai Genesis V6 makes a major statement.
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Which one? Um....remember, the Gen is FR!
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Great review from Edmunds. I can't wait to see one in person. I was honestly just expecting the pictures to be nice but the materials to be crap in person, but now that Edmunds mentioned the cushioned (not just leather wrapped) dash, this tells me Hyundai is extremely serious about this thing. They didn't have to go that far (in this price range), but they did.
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Originally Posted by black label
A guy just came into my dealership in a Genesis Sedan, he was on a test drive and stopped by to look at the Porsches.

The window sticker on the Hyindai had an addendum on it......
Market Adjustment+ $3000
Nitrogen in Tires + $50
They are actually selling (trying to at least) Hyundais for $3000 OVER MSRP!!!!
Who would actually pay that B.S. charge?!?!?!
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Saw that review earlier...sounds really good...can't wait to have the opportunity to check one out in person.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Who would actually pay that B.S. charge?!?!?!
I wouldn't but many people do because they just don't think.

Not only would I not buy a car that uses ADM stickers, I won't even go get service there.

I figure if they're going to cheat you on the front end, they're going to cheat you on the back end too.

My buddy had declared bankruptcy in 2002 and in 2005 he went to get a car loan. He's kinda lazy so he only works enough to make about $28k a year at UPS. Anyway, at that point he was working even less and making about $16k a year (like I said, he's lazy).

Anyway, at a local Honda dealership that puts $1700 markups on every car they sell from Civics to Ridgelines, he went to test drive a used Civic. They lied on his credit app to get him approved by inflating his income.

After hearing that, the $1700 ADM made sense. They are just ratbastard douchebag car dealers of the worst kind. They fit every stereotype.

Never buy from a dealer that tries to charge over MSRP. And definitely don't use them for service (even warranty work).
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My gorgeous IS350 costs $43,500.
I'm use to driving my brand new Lexus IS350 Sport
When I was driving my IS350 on the street today

I could be wrong, but I think Manual Transmission drives an IS350.

Manual, can you confirm?
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I could be wrong, but I think Manual Transmission drives an IS350.

Manual, can you confirm?
No, I think he drives a Lexus IS350.

Manual, can you confirm?
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Is it a manual transmission Lexus IS350?
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Wait....a member here bought an IS350?

Do tell.
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Who's this Manuel guy? And what's he driving these days?
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Originally Posted by black label
A guy just came into my dealership in a Genesis Sedan, he was on a test drive and stopped by to look at the Porsches.

The window sticker on the Hyindai had an addendum on it......
Market Adjustment+ $3000
Nitrogen in Tires + $50

They are actually selling (trying to at least) Hyundais for $3000 OVER MSRP!!!!
Doesnt that take away from the whole point of this car being a bargin?
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Yes, Manual Transmission bought a IS350 recently. He used to post a lot in the Racing & Competition sub-forum.
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^ yep, he's almost as annoying as msl82.
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Steering wheel is copied from Accord?????? lol
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tails look good at night
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Originally Posted by JS + TL
^ yep, he's almost as annoying as msl82.
Where does msl82 post I am not even sure I know who that is?
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Originally Posted by yohan81718


tails look good at night
It out-BMWs the BMWs lights!


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