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Old 03-07-2008, 07:48 PM
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But handing over the reins to American marketers is not something that seems to come naturally to Hyundai Motor. After walking through the receiving line on that Monday morning in February, Kia CEO Ahn spent the day criticizing the company's advertising. The brand has marketed itself as sporty and fun as opposed to the more serious Hyundai. In one of the meetings, Ahn said he hated an ad depicting a Kia dealer doing an impression of the film Flashdance, dancing wildly as the jingle "He's a maniac, maniac, and he's selling like he's never sold before" plays. Ahn halted the spots and said Kia's message should lose the campy humor.
And . That commercial is straight up lame. That commercial alone makes me not want to even sit in a Kia. Best to leave that lame ass humor behind if Hyundai is planning to move upscale.
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And . That commercial is straight up lame. That commercial alone makes me not want to even sit in a Kia. Best to leave that lame ass humor behind if Hyundai is planning to move upscale.
The fact that was greenlighted said to me that someone's wife/sister/brother was high up at the ad company that came up with that idea.

That's the kind of mickey mouse bullshit a local car dealer does.
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hyundai should hire me. i'm korean american and i know both korean/american culture inside out.

anyway, amanti never reached its goal because it was butt ugly. duh. and i thought the flash dance ad was hilarious. relax, old rich farts.
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375 HP @ 6500 rpm and 333 ft/lb torque@ 3500 rpm is no joke.... that is some serious power coming from Hyundai Genesis. The car's weight isn't that too heavy either, about 15~ 70 lbs lighter than the Acura RL. Also the drag co-efficient on the Genesis is measured at 0.27.



I've heard that the Hyundai is already planning on 5 liter variants of the 4.6 and direct injection and twin turbo applications that will make the Genesis over 500hp from the plant. The Genesis cars are being built in Ulsan, South Korea.

One of the guys at Edmunds said that Hyundai has already spent 5 years on the development of this and they know it has to meet or exceed expectations..that is why they keep changing and revising this thing. Also, Hyundai has the money to throw into this because its their 'halo' car that will catapault them to new heights of brand recognition and sales.



Here is a link to the German's review about this car. Very impressive.

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/hyund...it_518927.html








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You know, these days, I hear nothing but praise for Hyundai. Genesis Sedan: Looks great. Gensis Coupe: Looks Awesome, and G37 performance for the cost of an Eclipse?!?!

Can't say the same for Acura. TSX: Looks ok, but no HP increase? RL: Bleh....

Maybe Acurazine will have to create a Hyundaizine branch or atleast a sub forum in the future.
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
375 HP @ 6500 rpm and 333 ft/lb torque@ 3500 rpm is no joke.... that is some serious power coming from Hyundai Genesis. The car's weight isn't that too heavy either, about 15~ 70 lbs lighter than the Acura RL. Also the drag co-efficient on the Genesis is measured at 0.27.



I've heard that the Hyundai is already planning on 5 liter variants of the 4.6 and direct injection and twin turbo applications that will make the Genesis over 500hp from the plant. The Genesis cars are being built in Ulsan, South Korea.

One of the guys at Edmunds said that Hyundai has already spent 5 years on the development of this and they know it has to meet or exceed expectations..that is why they keep changing and revising this thing. Also, Hyundai has the money to throw into this because its their 'halo' car that will catapault them to new heights of brand recognition and sales.



Here is a link to the German's review about this car. Very impressive.

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/hyund...it_518927.html








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Yeah, this car is meant to compete with the RL, but with the base v6 it will be good competition for the TL, and with the v8, it'll go after the RL...

I can only see some of it, but it looks good in black...

And in case anyone is wondering, Manny Tranny got is start over on the TL forum:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...0&page=1&pp=25

Sorry, since we can move threads from there to over here (yet), all I can do is provide a link.
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Another Hyundai war.. I missed that one entirely..
One thing that always amazes me about Acurazine is the great difference in opinion when it comes to cars. I mean I'm not expecting a unanimous decision on a car, people are different and want different cars.

But it's just like a whole 'nother world in the TL racing forum. Felt like I stepped into some anti-korean forum run by xenophobes.

Also, TwinTurbo335 is an embarrassment to AZ.. just had to get that out
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Can someone please translate the review?
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Google translate to the rescueee!


http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=en&ie=UTF8
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For infinite justice!

It's 2007 ... Why can't translation software figure out nuances of languages now? I mean cripes, every translation is "someone set us up the bomb" painful.
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Doesn't look bad to me at all! But the rear i'm a bit iffy about..
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$39K-$41K for an optioned-out V8 according to this:

http://jalopnik.com/366046/hyundai-g...B-with-options
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Originally Posted by TLyoung'un
But it's just like a whole 'nother world in the TL racing forum. Felt like I stepped into some anti-korean forum run by xenophobes.
The fanboix tend to stay in the car forums (tl, cl, etc)... most of the real enthusiasts will hit the automotive news/cartalk forum here...

I'm an acura owner, but whoever makes a car that fits my needs and my budget regards of the badge on the grille gets my sale...
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Originally Posted by theslik1
$39K-$41K for an optioned-out V8 according to this:

http://jalopnik.com/366046/hyundai-g...B-with-options
The Technology Package includes:
- Lexicon Discrete Audio System
- Six-disc in-dash DVD changer navigation system
- Reversing camera
- Driving Information System
- Multimedia controller
- HID, Auto-levelling headlights
- Adaptive cornering headlights
- Parking sensors
- Cooled driver's seat
I was pretty sure some of those things would've been standard (ie, the HIDS) considering its luxury/value mission.
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
The fanboix tend to stay in the car forums (tl, cl, etc)... most of the real enthusiasts will hit the automotive news/cartalk forum here...

I'm an acura owner, but whoever makes a car that fits my needs and my budget regards of the badge on the grille gets my sale...
funny you said this...I was just told to keep my "RWD bias to myself" in a thread in the TL forums titled how much nicer would a RWD tl be?
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Originally Posted by phile
I was pretty sure some of those things would've been standard (ie, the HIDS) considering its luxury/value mission.
maybe they're taking a play out of the German's playbook. Are HIDs even standard in a 5-series yet? I'm surprised they don't offer "leatherette" standard with leather as an option.
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I would like to make a statement that "stitched" leather wrapped dash and wood trimmed leather wrapped steering wheel are some dope.. which comes as a Standard in V8 version.


To get really some serious stuff out of this car overall, I would need a Technology package. Would be fabulous if I could possibly get it for $38~ 39k.



btw, TLyoung'un, I love your avatar. She is incredibly cute. Who is she?
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Originally Posted by Jackygor
haha that was surprisingly comprehensible for the most part. Thanks

Manual, she's a Korean singer named Solbi. (Here's where my Hyundai bias is revealed )
But I have owned a Hyundai in the past..
nationality aside, how can I help it if it's such fun watching the company grow and disprove the naysayers
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Originally Posted by TLyoung'un
Manual, she's a Korean singer named Solbi. (Here's where my Hyundai bias is revealed )
Thanks. God she is cute.


But I have owned a Hyundai in the past..
nationality aside, how can I help it if it's such fun watching the company grow and disprove the naysayers
I perfectly agree.

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maybe they're taking a play out of the German's playbook. Are HIDs even standard in a 5-series yet? I'm surprised they don't offer "leatherette" standard with leather as an option.
I would think so, don't recall ever seeing a 5-series without HIDs. And if Hyundai plans to play one of those "bare bottom trim at the lowest price, yet when you go to the dealership only the optioned out trims are available" hand, I doubt it's going to work.
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I would think so, don't recall ever seeing a 5-series without HIDs. And if Hyundai plans to play one of those "bare bottom trim at the lowest price, yet when you go to the dealership only the optioned out trims are available" hand, I doubt it's going to work.
Bi-Xenons are $800 ... Does that mean the standard item is just a Xenon/halogen combo?
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I would think so, don't recall ever seeing a 5-series without HIDs. And if Hyundai plans to play one of those "bare bottom trim at the lowest price, yet when you go to the dealership only the optioned out trims are available" hand, I doubt it's going to work.
I agree. It may work at BMW and MB dealerships, where buyers aren't looking for "value", but not at a Hyundai dealership where people are focused on what they can get for as reasonably little as possible (as in Acura buyers ???).
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
I agree. It may work at BMW and MB dealerships, where buyers aren't looking for "value", but not at a Hyundai dealership where people are focused on what they can get for as reasonably little as possible (as in Acura buyers ???).
How many $39,675 335s do you have on your lot? I mean, doesn't everyone do that to some degree or another?
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How many $39,675 335s do you have on your lot? I mean, doesn't everyone do that to some degree or another?
I think the chances of that happening at the Hyundai dealership is far greater than that at the BMW dealership, which I agree w/MrDeeno. We're speaking relatively, of course everyone wants a bargain.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Bi-Xenons are $800 ... Does that mean the standard item is just a Xenon/halogen combo?
I'm not too keen on the Germans options/standard, gets way too complicated.
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Even people at Lexus forum are talking about the new Hyunda Genesis. The thread has over 33 pages and has way over 10,000 hits. The majority of the users who are viewing the thread at clublexus are showing great interest in Genesis. They are estimating this one could indeed be a big success for Hyundai.. The day when the Genesis cars hit the street the Hyundai dealers will be jam packed... Everyone will be there.. including Lexus owners. Amazing... Props Props Props..

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/show...328301&page=33



Also, I heard that the prices may not have been decided by Hyundai yet. There is still potential that the price could drop. $37~ 38K on a V8 Technology Pack would be absolutely fantastic, to me that is.

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I think the chances of that happening at the Hyundai dealership is far greater than that at the BMW dealership, which I agree w/MrDeeno. We're speaking relatively, of course everyone wants a bargain.
We simply do not know. I haven't been to a Hyundai dealer in forever (looked at a V6 Tibby back in teh day). Watch car commercials and you'll regularly see "Starts at X" and then in minute script at the bottom "Price as shown, = Way more than X" ...
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
Even people at Lexus forum are talking about the new Hyunda Genesis. The thread has over 33 pages and has way over 10,000 hits. The majority of the users who are viewing the thread at clublexus are showing great interest in Genesis. They are estimating this one could indeed be a big success for Hyundai.. The day when the Genesis cars hit the street the Hyundai dealers will be jam packed... Everyone will be there.. including Lexus owners. Amazing... Props Props Props..

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/show...328301&page=33



Also, I heard that the prices may not have been decided by Hyundai yet. There is still potential that the price could drop. $37~ 38K on a V8 Technology Pack would be absolutely fantastic, to me that is.


but why would lexus owners be interested in hyundais?

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I hope this car does well and they convert the Azera to RWD. The Genesis is just too big for me ... It's just me and my dog LOL.
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isn't the azera pretty damn big too? I thought it had roughly same interior volume as the 7-series. I think it's slightly smaller exterior-wise because it's a FWD layout, which is more compact.
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isn't the azera pretty damn big too? I thought it had roughly same interior volume as the 7-series. I think it's slightly smaller exterior-wise because it's a FWD layout, which is more compact.
It doesn't seem that big but you're right. They supposedly both are around 197 inches. Wow ... LOL.
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but why would lexus owners be interested in hyundais?

Yea apparently the Lexus owners find it very intriquing due to its new level of luxury and refinement and more importantly, great value. These guys know stuff, and it really got their attention. This is going to hurt Toyota, Honda, and Nissan sales.... Things will get interesting.
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^ sort of how the original Lexus LS set the precedent...
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I can't believe I just read it up to page 17 over at lexusclub site.

So far, I think memebers over at LC giving hyunida some credit for what they are doing.
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Hyundai just keeps looking better and better. Still, I can't say that I am particularly interested in the Genesis sedan. Now the Genesis coupe on the other hand......I can't wait to see more of that....


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