Mokos23

It's too bad actually for the I35, my dad had one, nice classy car, but it didn't sell well because the G35 was released a year later.

titan

Yeah. I think a next gen I35 off of the Max would have made a great ES competitor. Infiniti was hell bent on having an all RWD lineup, so it had to go.

BraveDemon

only 1 more day before we'll see a production version... how I wish I were in NY right now...

JediMindTricks

that's what i was thinking. and why would hyundai want two avalon competitors?

phile

It doesn't have to be. If it remains a Hyundai, it would be a big RWD sedan in the 30K price range. The only other car out there like it is possibly the Chrysler 300M, but I think that one's a midsize. This thing is a full-size sedan. It'll be in a class of its own.

titan

Though dimensionally it may be a few inches away from the EPA calling it a fullsize, or whatever, this car would essentially compete directly with the G8 and 300, along with the Avalon, Azera, and Maxima. I see his point. However, is they branded this under a new luxury plate, and it has the content to match, then we're talking a discount alternative to be big lux players...

chungkopi

glad it's not a camry-esque grill.

mltk53

omfg i love this!!!!!!!!!! thank you korea!

msl82

i dont think thats productions version, its probably concept. Look at the headlights.

phile

Would've been cool if the headlights did remain like that.

yohan81718

http://cafe.naver.com/jkcarservices....Farticleid=285

So, it will be launched December of this year in Korea. They are to compete against GS and 5 series. Genesis is next gen of Dynasty and they are in progress of making next gen of Equus (project name: VI). Genesis will be exported to North America around in March 2008. Price will range from 45000000~60000000won(50k~66k USD), costing more than Oprius and less than Equus. They will also include high techs like Adaptive Cruise Control and Adaptive Headlamp.


Hmmm.. at that price range, competing against GS and 5 Series?? I know hyundai sells cars cheaper in US than in Korea, so it'll be around 40k+???

sipark

do i need to register to read the article?

yohan81718

oh what the... i will just capture the screen and repost... sorry man... but i didn't have to register when i read it -_-;

yohan81718

By the way, I found this video clip too.. I actually haven't watched it, so if it's nothing really new, don't blame me
http://www.mncast.com/outSearch/mncP...10524&player=7

yohan81718

hopefully, this link does not require registering.. it has more pictures

http://imagesearch.naver.com/search....cksccj%2F21333

according to the replies on that blog, people reported what they heard from the news.. that the actual genesis and the concept will be almost identical...

Moog-Type-S

Looks like the concept is getting dumbed down.

sipark

based on??

Moog-Type-S

^^ Lights and grille

phile

I was really hoping they'd continue with the headlights-within-headlighs design, but it appears it'll be standard projectors.

chungkopi

i actually didnt really like that camryish grille.

looks to me the production version will be simliar to azera grille, but thicker and more aggressive.

yohan81718

http://www.edaily.co.kr/news/industr...4&curtype=read

basically what the news said was that the genesis will have hyundai badge rather than them making a premium brand like lexus/infiniti/acura
they concluded that it's too early to make premium brand of their own.. like the initial investment would be too much for a lot of things (premium marketing and etc etc)

chungkopi

so basically it's a poorman's phaeton and a glorified avalon competitor. if the loaded v8 is 40k msrp, i bet hyundai will start selling them 5-6 under msrp after 8-9 month of the initial launch. good for the consumers, but bet for the company.

yohan81718

^ stepping up slowly might be better for the company in the long run..

is300eater

also, if they came up with a different name.... wouldn't they have to set up a whole line of dealerships?

S14 n Tsx

looks good.

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

Genesis interior spy shots.

It's the same one that I sat in while I was in Korea. If you've sat in the new IS, you know how it hugs and surrounds you. I kind of felt a little bit of that. It was very comfortable and inviting. At the link below, you can see photos of the original interior and make a comparison.






More info --

http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/da...day=&Answer=29

TLyoung'un

steering wheel is pretty big lol. whats that below the shifter? something like i-drive?

yohan81718

looks big jump for hyundai... but not quite there yet
they are catching up indeed...
i'll be looking into hyundai (or lux brand of hyundai) in about 5~10 years hopefully

Sclass88

Very impressive! I can't wait to see the real thing!

Beltfed

This was reported over on HyundaiExchange.com by a supposedly very reliable source. If it turns out to be BS, don't blame me.......

phile

Wow, that's similar to the 4.7L in the Lexus, I think it's 371hp.

But I'll believe it when I see it, too.

dom

Interesting. Here's hoping they can also get more out of the 3.8L V6.

yohan81718

interesting indeed. however, i'd rather have well-built, possibly luxury level, appearance (both int/exterior) with nice techs over high hp/tq numbers if they cannot score them both.

Beltfed

Well, its definitely going to be feature rich.....leather, heated/cooled seats, radar based cruise control, Nav, etc. Supposed to be a tad under $40K for the V8 model.

Moog-Type-S

Hyundai continues to amaze!

Costco

I know you all are praising Hyundai and all of their vehicles and are excited about their forthcoming developments, but how many of you besides Pure Adrenaline will actually be in line for one when their new models come out?

I think I may be a bit of a badge whore but I don't know if I'll buy a Hyundai yet. That in itself was a badge whore statement.... but are they even going to be offering a manual transmission with the RWD V8? I could care less about manually shifting automatics with paddle shifters that make 0.00000007 quadrillisecond shifts.

Then again this is all concept and speculation, so I'll reserve judgment. I know some concepts can get me excited but the Hyundai RWD concept hasn't garnered too much interest from me. Will probably deserve a look and drive though when the finished product finally comes out.

BraveDemon

^

Well if you go to Costco, I'm sure you definitely understanding the meaning of great value at great prices.

And I suspect that the 1st generation Genesis and the 1st generation RWD Tibby will be offered at great prices. That in itself will probably be enough for people to line up to buy one.

Manual tranny or not, there will be a line out the door of every Hyundai dealership if Hyundai does indeed manages to produce a 380 horsepower V8.

JediMindTricks

charliemike

Me tooer if I can get a great car at a good price and don't have to pay markup for status

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

Why would they offer a manual transmission? Manual transmission sales are continuously declining, and this is the day and age where more Corvettes are being sold equipped with automatic transmissions than manual.

It just doesn't make business sense to invest the R&D costs into offering a manual transmission considering the target demographics of this vehicle. Your expectation is extremely unrealistic and unprofitable in the real world.

You also need to widen your perspective to across the auto industry, not just within your own vision. Name another company that currently offers or will offer in the near future, a rear wheel drive, V8, 6-speed manumatic transmission for under 40 grand. Honda does not. Neither do Toyota or Nissan. You have to step up to their respective premium brand and fork over a lot of money. Heck, you can't even do that at Acura with all the money in the world.

The fact that Hyundai is able to respond to the market faster than its major competitors says a lot. In fact, Hyundai's ability to quickly respond to changing market demands is considered by the industry as one of its main fortes. For many other companies out there, their technology is already considered outdated by the time the vehicle actually hits the market. That's just sad.

Whether you like this car or not, Hyundai is storming the global auto industry. It'll be among the top 5 auto companies soon; its current ranking is 6th behind GM, Ford, DCX, VW/Audi and Toyota.



Bottom line is... Hyundai needs to boost their brand image. This is Hyundai's next major homework. It needs to shed the bad reputation it received from 20 years ago and since. Hyundai knows it and that is why it recently switched the main ad agency.

People laughed when Hyundai put out the slogan for America's Best Warranty and named quality a priority. This was just few years ago. It has been received very widely and well by the public, the media and the critics. I don't see any reason why the new goal of boosting brand image will not achieve the same level of success.

.02

And yes, they keep telling me to sell the "Honda" and get a Hyundai. I keep saying I'll do it when they give me a fat raise but so far, no luck.