Moog-Type-S

This just in: Hyundai leapfrogs Acura in lux-sedan sales. Acura is now a relic of the past.

yohan81718

DAMN. I looked at the updated www.the-genesis.co.kr just now with the full features and techs info/pics. Just WOW. At least they are par with most lux brands in features if not better considering the price.

Few things I was surprised to see...
-Water proof front door glass
-Solar control glass
-Rear electronic curtain
-Front blind-spot camera + rear backup camera (2 cameras up front, 1 camera in the back)
-ECM outside/inside mirror (at night)
-17 speaker Lexicon sound
-DMB (it's mobile satellite tv)
and more...

go check it out guys.. detailed explanations are in Korean, but you can nav through different pictures and etc since they are in English.

It's highly questionable all these things are gonna come to US market or not. Knowing how it's done in the past, it's not likely, especially if you look at the price difference of Genesis in Korea vs US.

theslik1

It could happen. If the Genesis lives up to the hype it's going to force everyone to up their ante.

A couple of things pop out at me:

runnerX

I would buy one

Beltfed

I didn't do these, but not too shabby......

Moog-Type-S

This car is a winner! Take it to the bank.


....and you will with all the $$$ you will save.

Mizouse

^^ yea that front grill looks better imo

phile

Agree with Edmunds.

Although the initial specs are very impressive.

jz-97-c7

the first chop beltfred posted makes me want to go out and make a deposit on one today :wow:

and i don't think this car will torpedo the g8 at all...pontiac isn't really touted as a "luxury" car, they're more performance with some luxury thrown in for good measure.

theslik1

The problem with that is Genesis offers comparable performance (both V6 & V8) on a comparable RWD platform with a substantially larger available feature set. And you have to assume Hyundai's pricing will be very aggressive, therefore the G8 will be at risk.

I do agree that the ready-made G8 market (mainly domestic V8 guys) would be highly unlikely to cross-shop Hyundai, but that's a small subset of the targeted customer demo. Pontiac needs to sell to more than just GM die-hards.

Anyway, the G8 is just one example...Hyundai has its sights set on bigger fish than Pontiac.

jz-97-c7

i think there's room in the market for everybody :gheyhug: and you're right, hyundai has their sights on much bigger fish...some other manufacturers should take notes

MeehowsBRZ

At first I didn't like the way the car looked (especially with the grill) but those chops make it look real good.
for Hyundai.
for Acura for getting leapfrogged by Hyundai to the V8 RWD market.

agranado

im sure there will be aftermarket grilles for these hyundais soon after the car is released. not very attractive... however as for the rest of the car, just simply :wow:

totally pissed that acura is just moving too slowly about this.

nokiaman

A magnificent car.

Crazy Bimmer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sabObpr0Jro

Brandon24pdx

Win the Superbowl and drive off in a Hyundai?

alstonmichaels

I am so mad right now I can hardly contain myself. Why is it that on Hyundai's website for the Genesis and all the pics taken on other websites, I do not see nor hear any mention of a starter button, backseat controls for the rear seats nor a tv, raise/lowering height clearance of the vehicle, and only see two buttons on the shift coloumn instead of six for the American version of the Genesis? What gives? Are we, the American market, on the crap list of the world which includes GM? 2008 Chinese Buick Park Avenue anyone? What is so wrong with our country that we can not receive the same treatment as every other country when it comes to high feature and cool vehicles without having to pay top TOP dollar for them? What!?!

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

Because Americans can't drive, don't care to learn how to drive, bitch about pricey options and when car companies actually offer more options to the niche markets, they lose money.

Also consider that the Genesis will sell for nearly 10,000 USD less in the U.S. than the KDM version. Many options will have to be forfeited to offer it at a lower price. Otherwise a $50,000 Genesis will not possess the competitiveness it needs in the U.S. market.

CCColtsicehockey

Shit if my CL tranny dies I want one of these.

yohan81718

You pay $35k USD for V8 fully loaded and they pay close to $60k USD for V6 fully loaded... nuff said

Infamous425

calm down... its only your 2nd post...

BraveDemon

First off, chill out. I understand your frustration with the fact that the U.S. automarket seems to never get "any of the good stuff," but if you take a second and step back, you'll see why.

Lets go back (how far? Back in time... lol) to the 90s, during the time when there existed (perhaps) the greatest level of production Japanese sports cars in the U.S.. THink about all the cars that most car enthusiasts have come to love, and if not love, then at least have come to respect. I'm talking about the last gen Supra, last gen RX-7, the Mitsubishi 3000gt VR6.

Back then, import car makers offered top of the line products here in the American market, a twin turbo supra, twin turbo RX-7, and an AWD vr6 3000gt, were all considered superb sports cars, and America actually got to see them on showroom floors.

But many Americans simply could not justify paying the cost for these great cars: All of the cars in their top form ranged from 45-50k (maybe even more) new off the lot. Sure you could get a stripped down version for much less, but again, people refused to pay 30k for a non turbo supra, RX-7, and 3000gt.

So what happened?

All the companies began to lose money; it was no longer cost efficient to offer such vehicles in their line up, since the cars cost too much to build considering the lower amount of sales.

Thus, Toyota Discontinued the Supra, Mazda discontinued the RX-7, and Mitsubishi discontinued the 3000gt. And Toyota has yet to reintroduce a Supra, Mazda made an RX-8 (which I believe is a great sports car due to it's handling abilities, but fails due to the lack of horsepower) and Mitsubishi turned out the Evolution which sells for cheaper than what a 3000gt VR6 sold for.

Why is Toyota reluctant to offer a new Supra, and Mitsubishi a new 3000gt vr6? Because they offered top of the line products before and the american public was simply not interested.

Why is Hyundai not offering top of the line options? Because they look at those previous experiences of Toyota with the SUpra, Mazda with the RX-7, and Mitsubishi with the 3000gt. Hyundai looks at those examples and understands that their is a great risk when pricing a car far above their normal price range, and from the examples above, they do not want to lose money like those companies did.

So before you bitch about the import car companies refusing to give us all the goodies, look at history. Every company that offered "top of the line" vehicles were met with the harsh reality that the majority of the american public refused to pay for such vehicles.

Hyundai is smart for not offering everything possible; this way a decked out Genesis will probably come in under $40k. And 40k today may seem a bit more reasonable for what their offering, than what a Supra Twin Turbo offered for $45k back in the day.

chungkopi

noice!

The Dougler

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ya those pics are teh sex.

chungkopi

imagine if this had acura RL tag. lol

JediMindTricks

the RL forum would have members.

Moog-Type-S

Consumers would be interested in Acura again

The Dougler

iTrader: (1)

Acura would sell high end luxury cars?

Moog-Type-S

Pigs would fly
Hell would freeze over
Monkeys would fly out of my butt.....

phile

It wouldn't have made it past the drawing board.

chungkopi

is300eater

is that suppose to be an optional grill?

chungkopi

i don't know. some one posted that in other website.

The Dougler

iTrader: (1)

I heard over at Jalopnik that Hyundai wants to hear from the people which grill to launch with as they are unsure themselves which is more appealing.

leedogg

makes it look like a pontiac. The mesh detracts from the elegance and makes it cheaper looking.

chungkopi

looks more like a jag than pontiac IMO.

leedogg

Regardless, it gives it a dull and boring look. This pic/chop is a million times better

biker

^ the new car to pimp for the bling-bling crowd?

yohan81718

no

JediMindTricks

the grille looks better.

but the drop and wheels make....