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Old 11-27-2013, 09:51 PM
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If they arent worried they should be, and should be fired.
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Old 11-27-2013, 10:32 PM
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Have you seen the rear end of the RLX? They ARE copying. BMW in the RLX's case.
Badly at it too, I'd say.
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Have you seen the rear end of the RLX? They ARE copying. BMW in the RLX's case.
Now that you mentioned it, I think I see where you are coming from. It wasn't that obvious like the case with the Genesis though IMO.
Old 11-28-2013, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Now that you mentioned it, I think I see where you are coming from. It wasn't that obvious like the case with the Genesis though IMO.
RLX is much more balanced designed than BMW 5. BMW 5 has that long front end but very short rear end. MB E even looks more outdated.




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RLX is much more balanced designed than BMW 5. BMW 5 has that long front end but very short rear end. MB E even looks more outdated.




I think dom (Dom, correct me if I made the wrong assumption, thx) was referring to the 7-series...see below:



Old 11-28-2013, 06:58 PM
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long front end, short rear end are hallmarks of a FR car. Unlike a FF car - long front overhangs FTL.
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Originally Posted by iforyou
I think dom (Dom, correct me if I made the wrong assumption, thx) was referring to the 7-series...see below:
Yup.
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Now that you mentioned it, I think I see where you are coming from. It wasn't that obvious like the case with the Genesis though IMO.
Honestly, I think there's simply a stereotype out there that ever new Hyundai product is a copy of (Insert German car here). I don't think they copy any more or less than the Japanese do. Lexus to Acura have hints of every German car made over the last 10 years. hofmeister kink anyone?
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Originally Posted by phile
long front end, short rear end are hallmarks of a FR car. Unlike a FF car - long front overhangs FTL.
When cars are that long that overhang is practically identical. it is only in smaller car like BMW 3 series size that make a difference.

Old 11-28-2013, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MuGen7Modulo
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Seriously? Are you that deluded?
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I'll break it down for all geni koolaid fans wasting their time on Azine.

First one:

Big mistake in design - cramped/dead view rear window



Trying to hard to reach A7 which has a Sportsback - 5th door vs geni regular trunk.



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Old 11-28-2013, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MuGen7Modulo
I'll break it down for all geni koolaid fans wasting their time on Azine.

First one:

Big mistake in design - cramped/dead view rear window



Trying to hard to reach A7 which has a Sportsback - 5th door vs geni regular trunk.



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Old 11-28-2013, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MuGen7Modulo
I'll break it down for all geni koolaid fans wasting their time on Azine....
You seem to have missed the point of my question. You see, I already said I don't like this new design of the Genesis. That being said, do you really think the RLX design is a "winner"? It would seem the market disagrees with you.
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Originally Posted by MuGen7Modulo
I'll break it down for all geni koolaid fans wasting their time on Azine.

First one:

Big mistake in design - cramped/dead view rear window
Damn Hyundai copying Acura again.

- http://www.edmunds.com/acura/rlx/201...html?sub=sedan
2014 Acura RLX

The sweeping hood design makes it difficult to judge the front dimensions. The tall trunk lid partially obscures rearward visibility but the rearview camera mostly solves that.
- 3G TL Poor Rear Window Visibility: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/poor-rear-window-visibility-545167/


- http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2...-bold-shoulder
2010 Acura TL

The cargo area is sizable; I managed to fit my kids' bikes in there. However, there are no bag hooks or grocery containment methods, so your eggs may very well be an omelet by the time you get home from the grocery store. Visibility is good to the front and sides, though a small rear window limits the view. I was grateful for the backup camera and parking sensors that come with the navigation system as part of the Technology Package ($3,730).

- http://www.autos.ca/acura/day-by-day...09-acura-tl/3/
Day-by-Day Review: 2009 Acura TL

The TL provides good feedback on the road and is fun to toss around despite its size. Where the size does become an issue though is where you would expect it to… in parking lots. Visibility is poor as the rear deck is very high. One side mirror does dip down when the car is placed in reverse, which helps some. It is getting to a point now with so many vehicles having very high rear decks that a back-up camera is almost essential to ensure we don’t run over youngsters in parking lots.

- http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/2009-Ac...verview-c21024
2009 Acura TSX

Safety features often get overlooked by potential car buyers, who can be easily distracted by the more glamorous technical gadgetry and engine specs. Fortunately, 2009 TSX owners can rest happy, as the sedan easily earns five stars in all of the NHTSA crash test categories. The TSX comes standard with 4-wheel disc and ABS brakes supplemented by electronic brake assist. Traction and stability control feel solid and deliver good road grip at high speeds. Six airbags include dual front-side and side curtain bags for both rows. Lighting the road at night are xenon HID headlamps, foglights, and automatic headlamps. The new ACE (Advanced Compatibility Engineering) system helps keep front passengers safe by spreading collision impact across a wider area.

A rearview camera is optional in the Tech Package, and several owners find it helpful combating what they say is a rear visibility problem caused by a small rear window.

- http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Co...cura&model=ZDX

2013 Acura ZDX -- ConsumerReports.org® Overview

If you pine for a ZDX, you should hurry: Acura is dropping it in 2013. Based on the very good MDX, this coupelike, four-door luxury SUV has a taut yet supple ride and responsive handling. It has a smooth 3.7-liter V6 mated to a six-speed automatic. That's where the positive attributes end. The low roof, tall belt line, small side windows, and narrow rear window significantly limit visibility. The front seats are relatively roomy, but access to the rear seats is atrocious, and there isn't much room for two adults once they're inside. Cargo space is limited. The ZDX will be discontinued after the 2013 model year.
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back to the next gen Genny spanking the RLX and upcoming TLX in sales.
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Originally Posted by ttribe
That being said, do you really think the RLX design is a "winner"? It would seem the market disagrees with you.
RLX conversation is done.
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Originally Posted by MuGen7Modulo
I'll break it down for all geni koolaid fans wasting their time on Azine.

First one:

Big mistake in design - cramped/dead view rear window



Trying to hard to reach A7 which has a Sportsback - 5th door vs geni regular trunk.



...
Hate to break it to you, but the RLX is NOT rated very good for rearward visibility. Nice try though, try again
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Originally Posted by dom
Honestly, I think there's simply a stereotype out there that ever new Hyundai product is a copy of (Insert German car here). I don't think they copy any more or less than the Japanese do. Lexus to Acura have hints of every German car made over the last 10 years. hofmeister kink anyone?
Haha to be fair, an ex-Audi designer is now working for Hyundai/Kia...I guess that is a factor too.

Not only copying the design elements from European cars, but sometimes the Japanese copy each other too. For instance, I think the 1G RL was a copy of the 2G Lexus.
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I was never too crazy about the previous gen Genesis, other than the R-Spec. But the base model already looks good. The front end has some resemblance to its predecessor, and the rear reminds me a bit of a muscular version of the Elantra rear




But oh wait, it's a Hyundai, so let's nitpick every detail...
Old 11-29-2013, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
I think dom (Dom, correct me if I made the wrong assumption, thx) was referring to the 7-series...see below:




Not only that, he probably would deny that the Accord has an eerie similarity to the outgoing Genesis from the side/rear.


Way too easy to debunk a troll.







And then there are those who say the rear of the new Genesis looks like the rear on the Lexus GS, but the rear of the GS also looks like the rear of the Sonata.

And as for the cramped rear window - the Impala, Avalon, Fusion, etc. all have the cramped rear window based on the sloping roofline (and so did an older model of the Infiniti M); but still, they're nothing like the cramped rear window on the Taurus or the LaCrosse.

Anyway, I think the increased resemblance btwn Hyundai's luxury and mainstream lineups is a mistake (see VW w/ the Phaeton being seen as an oversized Passat, notwithstanding that it was priced too high) - and based on the spyshots of the new Sonata, think that it has a good chance of actually having the nicer sheetmetal (already has the sleeker greenhouse).

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Not only that, he probably would deny that the Accord has an eerie similarity to the outgoing Genesis from the side/rear.
Accord shape is result of aerodynamic testing. infact 278bhp Accord is faster than 330bhp Genesis. and Accord does not need 8speed auto or performance all season tires.
Accord is TSP+ despite lighter weight.
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Can we just ban SSFTSX?
I will donate $100 to Child's Play if someone does.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I will donate $100 to Child's Play if someone does.
I smell a poll.....
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I will donate $100 to Child's Play if someone does.
you better make sure its a permaban
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Old 12-02-2013, 04:55 PM
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Put him on the ignore list. It's free.
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So pretty much every car on the road look like each other

Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Accord shape is result of aerodynamic testing. infact 278bhp Accord is faster than 330bhp Genesis. and Accord does not need 8speed auto or performance all season tires.
Accord is TSP+ despite lighter weight.
Will you run faster if i gave you all reason running shoes?
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Haven't seen these posted in here yet... I'm loving these color combos. Very interested to see what features make it to the to our shores...

























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Gotta say, it looks very Audi.

I like the overall exterior design and the interior is looking nice. I wonder how the materials will feel?
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I agree looks very Audi and thats not a bad thing. I like this car alot.
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damn that Genesis is a nice lookin car!
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The interior especially the rear looks more Equus than Genesis.
If history is any indicator, a lot of the features won't make it to the US.
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I think Hyundai is starting to find their image... and sticking with it. Now they need to continue to improve upon it and deliver on their promises.

The new HTRAC AWD system will be sourced from Magna. Does anyone have any experience or information on the Magna systems?
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This car is stunning inside and out.
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I think Hyundai is starting to find their image... and sticking with it. Now they need to continue to improve upon it and deliver on their promises.

The new HTRAC AWD system will be sourced from Magna. Does anyone have any experience or information on the Magna systems?
Magna Powertrain manufactures parts for automakers across the world including AMG, Audi, BMW, Brilliance Auto, Buick, Chery, Chevrolet, Chrysler, Citroën, Daimler, Dodge, Dong Feng, FAW, Ferrari, Fiat, Ford, General Motors, Honda, Hyundai, Iveco, JAC, Jaguar, Jeep, JMC, KTM, Land Rover, Mahindra, MAN, Mazda, Mercedes-Benz, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Opel, Peugeot, Porsche, Renault, Saab, SAIC, Samsun, Skoda, Soueast, SsangYong, Suzuki, Tata, Toyota, Volvo, and VW.

Dodge trucks have been known to use axles that are well liked built by them.
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It's beautiful, but the fairy/laser (?) lights look horrible.
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I feel like this is a game of "spot the ripped design cue"



Headlights from BMW 7-series










Badge from Bentley



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