Honda: Odyssey News
#81
Suzuka Master
^^ Agreed. Looks like a ripoff of the Odyssey. I'd buy a Kia Sedona way before a Chrysler minivan. While everyone else is moving forward, Chrysler minivans are going the opposite way.
#84
The sizzle in the Steak
Chrysler went backwards with the new gen mini-vans.
#86
Originally Posted by dom
Still surprising considering how much more expensive the Ody is.
The Sienna is at 125K for the year.
The Sienna is at 125K for the year.
Actually Odyssey is quiet cheap now. There is $2500 incentive on the remaining 07. You can get a Odyssey EX-L with navi and DVD for $29000.
#87
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by chiawei
Actually Odyssey is quiet cheap now. There is $2500 incentive on the remaining 07. You can get a Odyssey EX-L with navi and DVD for $29000.
I know there cheaper now with the incentives, I just bought one,
But up here anyway Caravan's can be had for under 20K or nicely equipped in the very low 20's, I can only imagine how cheap they are down there.
Even an Ody LX will cost you 24-25K on the road in the US no?
Honda Canada just announced a model below the LX, a DX, for 31,xxx.
#88
Fahrvergnügen'd
Originally Posted by dom
I know there cheaper now with the incentives, I just bought one,
But up here anyway Caravan's can be had for under 20K or nicely equipped in the very low 20's, I can only imagine how cheap they are down there.
Even an Ody LX will cost you 24-25K on the road in the US no?
Honda Canada just announced a model below the LX, a DX, for 31,xxx.
But up here anyway Caravan's can be had for under 20K or nicely equipped in the very low 20's, I can only imagine how cheap they are down there.
Even an Ody LX will cost you 24-25K on the road in the US no?
Honda Canada just announced a model below the LX, a DX, for 31,xxx.
I'd rather pay the extra money upfront and then not have to worry about buying a new one to replace the current one after a few years when shit starts falling off ... Like the doors
#89
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by charliemike
The probably with Caravans is that even when you start cheap you still get fucked in the end when you go to sell it.
I'd rather pay the extra money upfront and then not have to worry about buying a new one to replace the current one after a few years when shit starts falling off ... Like the doors
I'd rather pay the extra money upfront and then not have to worry about buying a new one to replace the current one after a few years when shit starts falling off ... Like the doors
Because they're so cheap the Caravan has been the #1 or 2 best selling vehicle up here for years. There are entire used cars lots dedicated to them. Its not uncommon to see a 2 or 3 year old Caravan for well under 10K.
#90
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by dom
Honda Canada just announced a model below the LX, a DX, for 31,xxx.
What more could they strip from a LX?!?!?!?!
#91
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Does the DX even come with wheels?
What more could they strip from a LX?!?!?!?!
What more could they strip from a LX?!?!?!?!
I haven't looked into yet but I know there are no tints. A minivan without tints is crazy IMO.
#93
The sizzle in the Steak
^^
#94
Senior Moderator
2009 JDM Honda Odyssey Revealed
Press release...
Honda Motor Co., Ltd. today announced that sales in Japan of the all-new Odyssey will begin tomorrow, October 17. The fully remodeled Odyssey features a low-floor and low center-of-gravity package that enables a low profile roofline and performance beyond ordinary minivans together with a spacious cabin. The new Odyssey is also equipped with advanced safety technologies, including the new Multi-view Camera System. A special mobility-assistance version equipped with a lift-up front passenger seat will go on sale November 13, 2008.
Designed around the concept of emotive quality that will move all who experience it, the new fourth generation Odyssey provides an advanced fusion of the human/machine interface, a liberated feeling for all occupants, and a distinctive presence. So, the all-new Odyssey was developed with the goal of generating strong feelings in every circumstance: riding in it, driving it, and looking at it.
To fulfill customer expectations for excellent fuel economy related to growing awareness of environmental issues, the all-new Odyssey is equipped with a 2.4L DOHC i-VTEC engine and torque converter-equipped CVT*1, a combination that enables the vehicle to achieve both superior performance and class leading*2 fuel economy of 13.2km/L*3. Moreover, the all-new Odyssey features DBW (drive-by-wire) control and an ECON mode which improves fuel economy by applying collaborative control of the CVT and air conditioner to reduce engine load.
*1 M, L, and Li FWD vehicles
*2 2.4L (gasoline engine) minivan class
*3 M, L, and Li FWD vehicles. Fuel economy when driven in 10-15 mode (Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism figures)
Human/machine interface
New 2.4-liter DOHC i-VTEC engine delivers nimble, lively performance
Low center-of-gravity and advanced chassis balancing ensures luxurious ride comfort and handling that complies with the driver's intentions
Also available is the Odyssey Absolute, a sporty model with further refined performance characteristics
Liberated feeling for all occupants
More slender front pillars secure a wide, clear field of view for the driver, for a greater sense of security
Spacious and well-lighted interior achieves liberated feeling with two-layer instrument panel design
Advanced instrument panel design offers instant recognition and intuitive operation that enhances driving pleasure
The three rows of seats are positioned in a V-shaped layout to allow all occupants to enjoy the forward view
Distinctive presence
Distinctive one-motion form is lower and sleeker, providing a sensation of speed and functional beauty
Resolute expression and contoured front styling emphasize power and vitality
Monthly sales targets (Japan): 4,000 units
Key Features of the New Odyssey
Exterior design
The exterior is designed around a concept of sensual dynamism, with richly contoured surfaces to express both dynamism and solidity for conveying elegance and power.
The front view features sharp graphics, with headlights flowing out from the chromed bumper center portion and a sculpted V-line extending up over the hood from the front grill to impart a sense of speed and power. The narrow headlights add an intrepid feel.
The side view features a fluid silhouette with a one-motion line from front nose to roof end. This combines with the strongly contoured surface in an expression of sleekness and power.
For the rear view, the cabin has been strongly tapered and the rear window rounded to impart a compact feel for the cabin. Horizontally oriented rear combination lights add a feeling of breadth.
The voluptuous body contours are further highlighted with a super platinum coating.
Six color variations are available, including two new colors.
Interior design
The interior is designed to achieve an advanced feel in a refined and comfortable space.
The double-layered, gently sculpted instrument panel imparts a feeling of comfort and spaciousness.
The 3D self-illuminating gauges and indicator lamps are laid out around the centrally positioned speedometer in a 3D arrangement and grouped into functional zones for instantaneous recognition.
The audio, climate control, and navigation controls are positioned for easy operation in a highly intuitive center panel.
The front seat cushions employ low-resistance urethane for low fatigue and an outstanding hold.
A telescopic & tilt steering mechanism helps maintain the optimum driving position.
Power train
The 2.4-liter DOHC i-VTEC engine combines outstanding fuel economy with powerful performance, featuring class-topping 13.2km/L and strong, torquey response at all speed ranges.
The torque converter-equipped CVT combines outstanding fuel economy with smooth and seamless acceleration, for a more comfortable driving feel in a wide range of situations.
Efficiency improvements and weight reduction in the engine and transmission have helped boost fuel economy, while ECON mode supports even more economical operation.
Packaging
The spacious interior comfortably accommodates seven occupants, while the low overall height of 1,545mm*5 is compact enough to access most standard, multi-level parking facilities.
Innovative construction beneath the second-row seats provides an extra 40mm*6 of legroom for third-row passengers. Additionally, thanks to changes in the shape of the second-row seats, an additional 20mm*6 of knee space for third-row passengers improves comfort significantly.
The upper portion of the rear door opening has been expanded for easier access to third-row seating.
The front pillars employ high-strength materials and high-precision manufacturing methods to achieve an approximately 30%*6 reduction in width along with extra reinforcement. This results in improved visibility during cornering while opening up a more refreshing, panoramic field of view.
The seating positions of the left and right second-row passengers have each been moved 25mm*6 toward the center of the vehicle, creating a V-shaped layout for the first- to third-row seating positions. This allows all occupants to enjoy a clear forward view.
*5 FWD vehicle
*6 Honda calculations compared to the previous Odyssey
Utility
The second-row seats feature a three-way split back that allows the left, right, and center seatbacks to be independently folded down, allowing a variety of seating arrangements with a single action.
The third-row seats employ an under-floor storage mechanism to create a flat, easy to use luggage space.
The tailgate has been made thinner and shaped to secure more luggage space than the previous model. The luggage space is even easier to use, with a flat floor and a flexible luggage board that extends all the way to the backs of the second-row seats when the third-row seats are stowed.
Body
Improved joint efficiency at the upper and lower front pillar ends and other innovations result in a frame construction with outstanding rigidity. Optimized front/rear rigidity balance and stronger joints throughout also contribute greater dynamic rigidity.
Strong, lightweight, high-tensile steel has been effectively deployed along with a larger cross-sectional area to allow the use of thinner materials while ensuring efficient strengthening.
Road and wind noise have been kept to an absolute minimum by reducing sources of noise and vibration while making the body and chassis more rigid throughout to effectively prevent the vibrations caused by engine and road noise from reaching the cabin. Damping and absorption materials are also strategically located to block out unwanted noise.
Chassis
The low center-of-gravity chassis combines nimble handling with a comfortable ride for all occupants.
In the front, a double-wishbone suspension delivers outstanding straight-line stability and ride comfort.
In the rear, the reactive-link, double-wishbone suspension achieves a compact design that significantly contributes to the low-floor platform.
A more compact powertrain and innovative body design secure ample tire turning angle to achieve an outstanding, class-leading*7 minimum turning radius of 5.4m.
*7 Japanese "3-number" minivan category
Driver support functions
Active Cruise Control (ACC) and the Lane Keeping Assist System (LKAS) help alleviate the burden on the driver during highway driving. Availability varies depending on the type*8.
All types come equipped standard with Motion Adaptive EPS, which works in concert with Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) to provide steering assistance for more stable vehicle control.
Camera images are displayed on the navigation screen to reduce blind spots around the vehicle and facilitate smoother parallel and garage parking, as well as enhancing feelings of safety and security when driving along narrow roads or approaching 3-way intersections where visibility is poor. The Multi-view Camera System is available as a factory option on all types.
*8 Standard equipment on the Li
Safety
The vehicle's Advanced Compatibility Engineering body provides a higher level of protection to vehicle occupants while also helping to mitigate impact on the other vehicle in a collision.
The vehicle is also designed to mitigate pedestrian injury in the event of a collision, particularly to the head and legs, thanks to the use of impact-absorbing structures.
The Collision Mitigation Brake System (CMBS) with E-Pretensioners (driver and front passenger seats) helps anticipate collisions and mitigate injuries and vehicle damage should an accident occur. Availability varies depending on the type*9.
A side-curtain airbag system helps mitigate head injuries due to a side collision in all three rows. Availability varies depending on the type*9.
ISO FIX-compatible child seat anchoring bars and tether anchors (left and right second-row seats) are standard on all types.
*9 Standard equipment on the Li
Environmental performance
All models are certified by the Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism as having emissions levels 75% lower than what is required by 2005 standards.
The M, L, and Li FWD types exceed Japanese government fuel economy standards for 2010 by 25%; the M, L, and Li 4WD types by 10%; and the Absolute by 5%.
Odyssey special mobility-assistive vehicle with lift-up front passenger seat
The special mobility-assistive vehicle is equipped with a fully electric lift-up front passenger seat that can be easily raised, lowered, and rotated with a single switch. Other features include a wireless remote, enough space to store a wheelchair even with the third-row seats up, and a wheelchair securing net and protective cover, all standard equipment.
Designed around the concept of emotive quality that will move all who experience it, the new fourth generation Odyssey provides an advanced fusion of the human/machine interface, a liberated feeling for all occupants, and a distinctive presence. So, the all-new Odyssey was developed with the goal of generating strong feelings in every circumstance: riding in it, driving it, and looking at it.
To fulfill customer expectations for excellent fuel economy related to growing awareness of environmental issues, the all-new Odyssey is equipped with a 2.4L DOHC i-VTEC engine and torque converter-equipped CVT*1, a combination that enables the vehicle to achieve both superior performance and class leading*2 fuel economy of 13.2km/L*3. Moreover, the all-new Odyssey features DBW (drive-by-wire) control and an ECON mode which improves fuel economy by applying collaborative control of the CVT and air conditioner to reduce engine load.
*1 M, L, and Li FWD vehicles
*2 2.4L (gasoline engine) minivan class
*3 M, L, and Li FWD vehicles. Fuel economy when driven in 10-15 mode (Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism figures)
Human/machine interface
New 2.4-liter DOHC i-VTEC engine delivers nimble, lively performance
Low center-of-gravity and advanced chassis balancing ensures luxurious ride comfort and handling that complies with the driver's intentions
Also available is the Odyssey Absolute, a sporty model with further refined performance characteristics
Liberated feeling for all occupants
More slender front pillars secure a wide, clear field of view for the driver, for a greater sense of security
Spacious and well-lighted interior achieves liberated feeling with two-layer instrument panel design
Advanced instrument panel design offers instant recognition and intuitive operation that enhances driving pleasure
The three rows of seats are positioned in a V-shaped layout to allow all occupants to enjoy the forward view
Distinctive presence
Distinctive one-motion form is lower and sleeker, providing a sensation of speed and functional beauty
Resolute expression and contoured front styling emphasize power and vitality
Monthly sales targets (Japan): 4,000 units
Key Features of the New Odyssey
Exterior design
The exterior is designed around a concept of sensual dynamism, with richly contoured surfaces to express both dynamism and solidity for conveying elegance and power.
The front view features sharp graphics, with headlights flowing out from the chromed bumper center portion and a sculpted V-line extending up over the hood from the front grill to impart a sense of speed and power. The narrow headlights add an intrepid feel.
The side view features a fluid silhouette with a one-motion line from front nose to roof end. This combines with the strongly contoured surface in an expression of sleekness and power.
For the rear view, the cabin has been strongly tapered and the rear window rounded to impart a compact feel for the cabin. Horizontally oriented rear combination lights add a feeling of breadth.
The voluptuous body contours are further highlighted with a super platinum coating.
Six color variations are available, including two new colors.
Interior design
The interior is designed to achieve an advanced feel in a refined and comfortable space.
The double-layered, gently sculpted instrument panel imparts a feeling of comfort and spaciousness.
The 3D self-illuminating gauges and indicator lamps are laid out around the centrally positioned speedometer in a 3D arrangement and grouped into functional zones for instantaneous recognition.
The audio, climate control, and navigation controls are positioned for easy operation in a highly intuitive center panel.
The front seat cushions employ low-resistance urethane for low fatigue and an outstanding hold.
A telescopic & tilt steering mechanism helps maintain the optimum driving position.
Power train
The 2.4-liter DOHC i-VTEC engine combines outstanding fuel economy with powerful performance, featuring class-topping 13.2km/L and strong, torquey response at all speed ranges.
The torque converter-equipped CVT combines outstanding fuel economy with smooth and seamless acceleration, for a more comfortable driving feel in a wide range of situations.
Efficiency improvements and weight reduction in the engine and transmission have helped boost fuel economy, while ECON mode supports even more economical operation.
Packaging
The spacious interior comfortably accommodates seven occupants, while the low overall height of 1,545mm*5 is compact enough to access most standard, multi-level parking facilities.
Innovative construction beneath the second-row seats provides an extra 40mm*6 of legroom for third-row passengers. Additionally, thanks to changes in the shape of the second-row seats, an additional 20mm*6 of knee space for third-row passengers improves comfort significantly.
The upper portion of the rear door opening has been expanded for easier access to third-row seating.
The front pillars employ high-strength materials and high-precision manufacturing methods to achieve an approximately 30%*6 reduction in width along with extra reinforcement. This results in improved visibility during cornering while opening up a more refreshing, panoramic field of view.
The seating positions of the left and right second-row passengers have each been moved 25mm*6 toward the center of the vehicle, creating a V-shaped layout for the first- to third-row seating positions. This allows all occupants to enjoy a clear forward view.
*5 FWD vehicle
*6 Honda calculations compared to the previous Odyssey
Utility
The second-row seats feature a three-way split back that allows the left, right, and center seatbacks to be independently folded down, allowing a variety of seating arrangements with a single action.
The third-row seats employ an under-floor storage mechanism to create a flat, easy to use luggage space.
The tailgate has been made thinner and shaped to secure more luggage space than the previous model. The luggage space is even easier to use, with a flat floor and a flexible luggage board that extends all the way to the backs of the second-row seats when the third-row seats are stowed.
Body
Improved joint efficiency at the upper and lower front pillar ends and other innovations result in a frame construction with outstanding rigidity. Optimized front/rear rigidity balance and stronger joints throughout also contribute greater dynamic rigidity.
Strong, lightweight, high-tensile steel has been effectively deployed along with a larger cross-sectional area to allow the use of thinner materials while ensuring efficient strengthening.
Road and wind noise have been kept to an absolute minimum by reducing sources of noise and vibration while making the body and chassis more rigid throughout to effectively prevent the vibrations caused by engine and road noise from reaching the cabin. Damping and absorption materials are also strategically located to block out unwanted noise.
Chassis
The low center-of-gravity chassis combines nimble handling with a comfortable ride for all occupants.
In the front, a double-wishbone suspension delivers outstanding straight-line stability and ride comfort.
In the rear, the reactive-link, double-wishbone suspension achieves a compact design that significantly contributes to the low-floor platform.
A more compact powertrain and innovative body design secure ample tire turning angle to achieve an outstanding, class-leading*7 minimum turning radius of 5.4m.
*7 Japanese "3-number" minivan category
Driver support functions
Active Cruise Control (ACC) and the Lane Keeping Assist System (LKAS) help alleviate the burden on the driver during highway driving. Availability varies depending on the type*8.
All types come equipped standard with Motion Adaptive EPS, which works in concert with Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) to provide steering assistance for more stable vehicle control.
Camera images are displayed on the navigation screen to reduce blind spots around the vehicle and facilitate smoother parallel and garage parking, as well as enhancing feelings of safety and security when driving along narrow roads or approaching 3-way intersections where visibility is poor. The Multi-view Camera System is available as a factory option on all types.
*8 Standard equipment on the Li
Safety
The vehicle's Advanced Compatibility Engineering body provides a higher level of protection to vehicle occupants while also helping to mitigate impact on the other vehicle in a collision.
The vehicle is also designed to mitigate pedestrian injury in the event of a collision, particularly to the head and legs, thanks to the use of impact-absorbing structures.
The Collision Mitigation Brake System (CMBS) with E-Pretensioners (driver and front passenger seats) helps anticipate collisions and mitigate injuries and vehicle damage should an accident occur. Availability varies depending on the type*9.
A side-curtain airbag system helps mitigate head injuries due to a side collision in all three rows. Availability varies depending on the type*9.
ISO FIX-compatible child seat anchoring bars and tether anchors (left and right second-row seats) are standard on all types.
*9 Standard equipment on the Li
Environmental performance
All models are certified by the Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism as having emissions levels 75% lower than what is required by 2005 standards.
The M, L, and Li FWD types exceed Japanese government fuel economy standards for 2010 by 25%; the M, L, and Li 4WD types by 10%; and the Absolute by 5%.
Odyssey special mobility-assistive vehicle with lift-up front passenger seat
The special mobility-assistive vehicle is equipped with a fully electric lift-up front passenger seat that can be easily raised, lowered, and rotated with a single switch. Other features include a wireless remote, enough space to store a wheelchair even with the third-row seats up, and a wheelchair securing net and protective cover, all standard equipment.
#95
Senior Moderator
#96
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#97
Senior Moderator
#98
Safety Car
i see accord in these images
and what the hell??? people this lazy now?? or is this for handicapped person??
edit: actually.. after looking at the trunk, it seems like it's for handicapped people as I was guessing...
and what the hell??? people this lazy now?? or is this for handicapped person??
edit: actually.. after looking at the trunk, it seems like it's for handicapped people as I was guessing...
Last edited by yohan81718; 10-22-2008 at 01:38 AM.
#100
The sizzle in the Steak
Nicely done!.....Let's see how much of that ends up on the next gen NA Oddy.
#103
Senior Moderator
#108
Suzuka Master
#109
It's too flat for my tastes. I like the shape of the American mini-van. Tall and fat. This thing would look excellent as a US Odyssey if we stretched it vertically to give it the US van profile, then the hood would slope more and become shorter.
Projectors FTW. The current US Odyssey is just begging for it.
Projectors FTW. The current US Odyssey is just begging for it.
#110
Unofficial Goat
iTrader: (1)
Exterior styling is pretty hot for a soccer mom mobile, and the interior is attractive too, I bet lots of changes (exterior) are made for the NA model though.
#113
The sizzle in the Steak
...perhaps the interior will be very close to this, and the exterior will take on some of the JDM styling...and that is a great thing.
#115
The sizzle in the Steak
#116
Senior Moderator
Ya, but judging by the posts on this page it doesn't seem clear that this Ody shares nothing with ours.
Unless this is the Latitude that was talked about awhile back. But that's supposed to be more in the mould of a Toyota Venza than Jr minivan.
Unless this is the Latitude that was talked about awhile back. But that's supposed to be more in the mould of a Toyota Venza than Jr minivan.
#117
Suzuka Master
On a side note, my power sliding doors aren't working.. My car radio as well asks some kind of code, probably due to when the battery died a few days ago and I had to boost it.Time to go visit Honda.
#119
Suzuka Master