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Old 07-20-2007, 08:48 PM
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But rumour has it that with Honda's flexible manufacturing facilities they can begin building the current Fit in NA at anytime.
It would be interesting if Honda decides to build the new Fit in Ontario (Alliston plant) with the Civic. I think some capacity is still available there ... or are they gonna really cheap out and built it in Brazil with the South America Fits are built and ship it up to North America? I don't think they will built it in Ohio (Marysville) since they spit out Accords / TL like mad there.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
They had to, they needed a car smaller than the Civic, with Versa and Toyota's little car. Knowing that people wanted it for the gas mileage. Those things are hard to keep on the lots in this area. With it already being built. All they had to do was adjust the build for NA market. IMO people buying them aren't going to worry if it looks different a year or so after they purchased it.
Yeah, Honda Fits are hard to find here in the Bay Area. They still sell at sticker price.

I frequent Fitfreaks.net, and there are many happy Fit owners. If Honda didnt release the Fit, those people might have been Versa, Yaris, or Aveo owners instead.

And often, those who come in to check out the Fit at the Honda dealer often end up buying a Civic or Accord.
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man i saw a Fit this morning on the highway, kept up with me at 80mph, but after that the guy seemed to struggle past that. gosh those things are so small because there was this bigass Suburban right behind it. i don't think i would want to get one of those things to drive on the highway. to me, it's not safe or big enough to drive in US roads with all those bigass SUVs and semitrucks on the road.

the smallest car I would buy to drive on the US highways would be a Sentra, Civic, or Corolla.

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Next generation Honda Fit

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I'm glad I didn't buy the current one, I would've been kicking myself after I saw this. Guess I'll have to pay off the CR-V and get this in a few years as the second car.
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Although I kinda like the current interior more than the newer interior.
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Although I kinda like the current interior more than the newer interior.
We'll see IMO. The US interior wont have the navi.
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I see a lot of Mercedes-Benz A-class in the exterior. That's a compliment, by the way.

I suppose vehicles of this size start to all look the same, however...
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I see a lot of Mercedes-Benz A-class in the exterior. That's a compliment, by the way.

I suppose vehicles of this size start to all look the same, however...
Yeah, party due to the pedestrian collision standards in Europe..
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its okai. but i like the current one better.
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This is the hottest Civic Si HB ever. Err.

Seriously though, it does look good.
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what's wit these big-ass headlight/taillight designs lately, ugh!!

i don't like it, it looks like a fugly fish...with side mirror flippers
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This design wont make it stateside anytime soon me thinks. Dont you think they'll wait for a stand cycle life to go by before suddenly hitting the market with the new design?
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This design wont make it stateside anytime soon me thinks. Dont you think they'll wait for a stand cycle life to go by before suddenly hitting the market with the new design?
An interesting point. Will it be like the Ford Focus, where we are unworthy of the newer designs?
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An interesting point. Will it be like the Ford Focus, where we are unworthy of the newer designs?
I dont think it will be like that. Ford is a bunch of retards running around without a clue. I just think Honda will wait out the 4-5 year period typical of model cycles before bringing it over. OR they will wait another year and introduce it as a mid-cycle replacement. Dunno, just my guesses.
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The current Fit won't be around for long IMO. Honda brought the fit out earlier in the US market than they wanted to in order to compete with the Yaris and Versa (and Xa, Aevo, etc)...

I think they'll bite the bullet and bring over the next gen fit soon after the JDM one is released. It makes sense to have the JDM and USDM launches in sync...

edit: I've been intrigued by the Fit, but I can't see making the transition from a CLS w/ a 6cly to a Fit that easily...
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All it needs it a diesel and I'm on board.
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what's wit these big-ass headlight/taillight designs lately, ugh!!

i don't like it, it looks like a fugly fish...with side mirror flippers
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All it needs it a diesel and I'm on board.

for diesel
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only bad thing about the fit is when you're driving on the highway and you see all these bigass SUV's and semis right next to you.
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It looked pretty ugly first time I saw it (today) and it grew on me quickly, I kinda like it. It does have huge headlights... only on my mind as a potential "practical car"... but I'm 18, I don't have money set aside for a practical car.

The white Fit's front end looked kinda RSX-y to me for some reason. I still like the interior, I wonder if it still has those lounge chair seats.
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First Drive: 2009 Honda Fit



The Big Success Gets Bigger

By Peter Lyon, Contributor, Japan Email
Date posted: 09-20-2007

The teeny Honda that dared to be big is back with a redefined package for 2008. What's this? A brand-new Honda Fit? Didn't it just arrive in America last year?

Well, yes, but Japan and Europe have known about the superb Honda Fit since 2001, when it first landed in their respective showrooms and quickly set sales records. It simply took a further five years to reach us here in the U.S. as Honda struggled with the "ifs" and "buts" of introducing such a small car in America. In the end, the combination of Scion's marketing success and skyrocketing gasoline prices finally forced American Honda to bring the Honda Fit to the U.S.

Now it's time for a major model change, and the new Honda Fit will be introduced at the 2007 Tokyo Auto Show. About a year from now, it will reach America as the 2009 Honda Fit.

Bigger in Almost Every Way
Not surprisingly, the all-new 2009 Honda Fit follows the same recipe as its predecessor. Centered as before around its centrally located fuel tank — the key ingredient in the packaging formula — the Fit gets a tweaked design look, more interior space and, wait for it, improved ride and handling, an issue of some controversy with its predecessor.

As Project Chief Engineer Kohei Hitomi says, "When you're on a good thing, don't just stick to it. Make it better." At our drive of a production prototype of the new Fit at Honda's test track in Northern Japan, Hitomi and his design team were beaming with confidence as they pulled the covers from the new subcompact.

Artfully maintaining that same sharp-nosed, high-roofed look, the Honda designers have added a sportier flavor to the car. There's also an optional panoramic skyroof.

By moving the windshield forward by 4.7 inches, the stylists have created a cabin that feels as roomy as that of a Civic. Clever triangular windows have been sculptured into the side front doors to improve visibility, as the A-pillars of the previous design were thought by many owners to be obstructive.

The wheelbase has been increased 2 inches to 98.4 inches, while the overall length goes up 2.2 inches to 153.5 inches. The Fit is also 0.8 inch wider, while the front track is 1.4 inches wider and the rear track is 1.2 inches wider. It's surprising that the overall weight gain is a meager 22 pounds.

An Interior Where Brave Meets Bold
Inside the Fit's cabin, it's apparent that quality levels are up, with improved plastics, more supportive seats and a tilt-and-telescoping steering wheel. Meanwhile, a new dashboard layout looks softer, reflecting a special effort by stylists to appeal to women.

Just as with the recently introduced Mini Clubman, the stretched wheelbase of the new Fit primarily improves rear-seat legroom, which has increased 1.6 inches. Honda has also decided to do away with the spare tire, and this brave move increases cargo capacity by 1.5 cubic feet to a total of 14.2 cubic feet.

Answering the customary call for even more cupholders, the Fit now offers a staggering total of 10!

Honda at Its Best
In Europe and Japan, the Fit is available with either a 1.3-liter or 1.5-liter inline-4 engine, but the U.S. market will get only the all-new 1.5-liter. The incorporation of i-VTEC variable valve timing helps the 1.5-liter engine produce 118 horsepower at 6,000 rpm (an improvement of 9 hp) and 107 pound-feet of torque at 4,800 rpm (a very useful increase of 21 lb-ft).

We spent much of our time in the 1.5-liter model with the five-speed manual transmission that will come to the U.S. in about a year. With a handheld stopwatch, we clocked this car to 60 mph in 8.9 seconds. We also drove the car with the Japan-spec continuously variable transmission (CVT), which features shift paddles on the steering wheel that can choose among seven gear ratios.

The combination of the 1.5-liter engine with i-VTEC and drive-by-wire throttle represents Honda's engine technology at its best. We had such an early look at this engine that Honda hadn't yet built the proper i-VTEC engine cover for it and the engineers wouldn't let us take any pictures as a result. But we can tell you that it gives the Fit a whole new personality.

Gently squeeze the throttle in light traffic or plant your boot for a quick getaway and the Fit responds briskly and effortlessly. Ample torque is on tap from as low as 2,000 rpm and the engine is always willing. While we sampled the silky-smooth CVT, it is the deliciously mechanical five-speed manual transmission that rewards you with short-throw action and precise gear engagement.

Supple, Yet in Control
Beneath the new look lies a thoroughly reengineered chassis, and improvements (especially in the front bulkhead) have improved structural rigidity by a stunning 164 percent. While this means the doors now close with a deeper, heavier thud of quality, the Fit's ride and handling are the prime beneficiaries.

This will please a lot of drivers of the first-generation Fit that found the ride quality too harsh. Chief engineer Hitomi tells us, "We are very aware that the predecessor was a little firm, so we spent a lot of time fixing that. But we believe we've got it just right now." While the ride is still firm, the Fit now soaks up the bumps far better than before.

Apart from making the front and rear tracks wider, the size of the front bushings has been increased and the steering geometry has been rehashed. At the rear, the torsion-beam setup has gained another 0.8 inch in travel, and Hitomi explains, "Two vertically mounted stiffeners positioned inside the D-pillar above the rear springs work in conjunction with the other rear modifications to bring the rear end around quicker and flatter."

Minicar, Not Minivan
It all works, as the new Fit now turns in superbly, gobbling up corners without rolling onto its door handles. More important, once you turn into a corner, you feel the rear end come around obediently, as if it actually wants to follow the line scribed by the front tires, so there's less understeer than before. The Fit now feels more like a small sedan than a small minivan.

The new suspension calibration also improves straight-line stability. On Honda's high-speed proving ground, the Fit felt as stable at 110 mph as it did at 50 mph. And the brakes also offer loads of stopping power, while the pedal feels firm and uncompromised by brake fade.

The Fit employs a new power-assisted rack-and-pinion steering with a revised rack to reduce steering effort a low speed. This is a fine thing in parking lots, but we found the steering lacked any feel up to about 20 mph. As speed rises, the power-assist gradually increases steering effort to a more reassuring level.

On the Way to the USA
The Fit that will come to the U.S. will be the Japanese-market 1.5-liter RS in most of its basic specifications. The Fit Sport will feature the RS model's body kit of aerodynamic devices as well as taller wheels and tires, much as it does now.

The new Fit addresses all the criticisms leveled at the current car, with improved ride and handling plus a more spacious and more stylish interior. No longer does it seem like a downmarket Honda built to a price point. There might be some concerns in the U.S. that the 2009 Honda Fit will cannibalize Civic sales as the little car continues to surge in popularity, yet it is the Honda way to relentlessly improve its products, no matter what the consequences might be.
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VERY much liking what I see...! In the next 2-3 years, I'll be transforming my s2k into a track car and make way for a new DD - the 2G fit!
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No spare tire? That's just begging for a lawsuit, I doubt that's going to travel over the US version.
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no spare tire? WTF!

Although I don't see how that would warrant a lawsuit, because you are buying the car as it's equiped. it's an option that is customarily standard in all vehicles, the auto manufacturer has the right to remove options they want.

I'm not condoning their action, just odd to see Honda not out"fit" it with a spare. Perhaps the u.s. version will?
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MINI Cooper S have been without spare tires for years now.
Don't get your panies in a bunch.
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MINI Cooper S have been without spare tires for years now.
Don't get your panies in a bunch.

Doesn't the Cooper S have run flats?
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Well to me it looks like the Mini Cooper is even too small to have a spare tire in the back anyways. That also makes me ponder does the Smart car have a spare tire too?
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I just can't see driving a car without a spare... I hit a monster pothole at lunchtime once and used my spare. I don't think work would be to happy to hear me call in (and I don't have a cellphone) and say that I'm not coming back after lunch 'cause I got a flat

That might be a deal breaker for me, unless the spare is optional. I'd be buying a civic...

Maybe it's just a way for honda to pad the Fit's cargo space figures and the spare is a option
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
Doesn't the Cooper S have run flats?
Cooper and Cooper S have run-flats.
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Well to me it looks like the Mini Cooper is even too small to have a spare tire in the back anyways. That also makes me ponder does the Smart car have a spare tire too?
Cooper has a spare tire...Cooper S does not.
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Maybe it's just a way for honda to pad the Fit's cargo space figures and the spare is a option
It would be an option that I would select. I've had a good 3 flat tires in the last 5 years, 2 of them within months of each other.
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I'm glad I didn't buy the current one, I would've been kicking myself after I saw this. Guess I'll have to pay off the CR-V and get this in a few years as the second car.
I kinda disagree cause I was waiting to see the new car before deciding on the current model. I think the interior on this new fit looks cheaper than the current car. Sure they threw in the civic steering wheel but compare the gauges they are using and the dash itself - all look downgraded imo.

Exterior, I love the idea of it looking like a euro civic hatch but it also looks like an egg. I wasn't overly happy with how tall the current fit looked, yet this newer version seems to go even taller in looks.


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I see the new one finally has a dead pedal... I wonder if they were generous enough to include an arm rest this time?
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I see the new one finally has a dead pedal... I wonder if they were generous enough to include an arm rest this time?
I had a Chevy Cobalt loaner and the thing didn't have an armrest...wow, I never knew what it was like to not have one. Now I don't take my armrest for granted anymore.
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I never had an armrest and never thought about having one as a 'driver', I think its as qualitative as a dead pedal
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I never had an armrest and never thought about having one as a 'driver', I think its as qualitative as a dead pedal
The dead pedal is functional, it's used to support your weight under hard braking. The armrest is nice for changing gears with the MT. I drove the fit and if it had the Civic's engine and the dead pedal + armrest, I probably would have one in the driveway right now. It's amazingly annoying to not have those two simple pieces.
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Thumbs up Japan's Car of the Year



Honda Fit/Jazz Voted Japans Car of the Year
Honda’s entry-level Fit compact has taken Japan’s coveted Car of the Year award, beating runners up Nissan and its new Skyline coupe as well as the Subaru Impreza. Judging was handled by a 60-member panel made up primarily of auto journalists and industry analysts.

Surprisingly, Honda has won five of the awards over the past ten years the event has been run, with on those going to the first generation Fit. Last year saw the Lexus LS sedan take home the award, reports Automotive News.

The second-generation Fit, also known as the Jazz in some markets, is one of the most popular models in Japan and has already racked up 20,000 sales after being launched just two weeks ago.


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^^ The Fit beat the Skyline?!?!?!?!?!
This just in: The Japanese need their heads examined!!!!
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^^ The Fit beat the Skyline?!?!?!?!?!
This just in: The Japanese need their heads examined!!!!
Remember ... the Japanese are pragmatic people. If they can't afford to buy a house without a 100-year mortgage, how are they gonna buy a car? The average Japanese person can't afford a Skyline -- if the tax is based upon engine displacement, a 3800 cc engine will cost you! Nor does it help that gasoline over there costs US$5+/ gallon.
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