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#41
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Sportier, eh. 10k more, prob a 1000lbs more than the xb,
The Element is longer (170 in.) than the xb (155 in.) and also it's 5 inches wider and 6 inches higher. Although the xb is actually bigger inside.
I don't think I could drive either vehicle.
#43
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Still ugly!! ....and I hope Nissan does not import the Cube.
#45
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Honda Element-D...
From Leftlane...
Honda at the SEMA auto show unveiled the Honda Element-D drift racecar. Built for the racing sport of drifting, the Honda Element-D racecar replaces the stock 4-cylinder/Real Time(TM) 4WD drivetrain with a custom-designed and longitudinally-mounted 3.2-liter Honda V6 and rear-wheel-drive.
Producing 500-horsepower, the lightweight twin-turbocharged powerhouse is guaranteed to light up the rear tires and accelerate sideways at full opposite lock. Associates from Honda R&D Americas, Inc., in Ohio plan to campaign the Element-D in the 2007 Formula Drift Series.
Producing 500-horsepower, the lightweight twin-turbocharged powerhouse is guaranteed to light up the rear tires and accelerate sideways at full opposite lock. Associates from Honda R&D Americas, Inc., in Ohio plan to campaign the Element-D in the 2007 Formula Drift Series.
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Honestly, i think the Scion BB, Nisssan Cube and the Element falls under similar looks. And i think all those tree look so cool and got character.
But the element seems abit overweight, and it probably needs a bigger engine on the US soils just to keeep up with the traffic .
But the element seems abit overweight, and it probably needs a bigger engine on the US soils just to keeep up with the traffic .
#49
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That drifter is cool as hell.
The worst thing about the element is that it is a pure 4 seater. That really SUCKS. I would like it a little more if it at least sat 5.
The worst thing about the element is that it is a pure 4 seater. That really SUCKS. I would like it a little more if it at least sat 5.
#50
The sizzle in the Steak
Recall: Honda Element
Honda recalls 241 2008 MY Elements
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has announced a recall involving Honda’s 2008 model year Element. Although the recall includes only 241 vehicles, Honda is advising all 2008 Element owners to stop driving their vehicles until they can be inspected by a Honda dealer.
The recall is due to a potentially faulty weld on the front bushing bracket of the left trailing arm of the rear suspension. If the weld fails, it could cause the release of the lower wheel hub, causing loss of control and the possibility of a crash.
The NHTSA failed to mention if any crashes have been linked to the defect.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has announced a recall involving Honda’s 2008 model year Element. Although the recall includes only 241 vehicles, Honda is advising all 2008 Element owners to stop driving their vehicles until they can be inspected by a Honda dealer.
The recall is due to a potentially faulty weld on the front bushing bracket of the left trailing arm of the rear suspension. If the weld fails, it could cause the release of the lower wheel hub, causing loss of control and the possibility of a crash.
The NHTSA failed to mention if any crashes have been linked to the defect.
#51
I drive a Subata.
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that's a serious problem
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#56
The sizzle in the Steak
#57
They should have had a recall for the Element's styling.... or its 4-seats to become 5.
...actually I don't think the Element is that bad looking. Its just not good looking at all, but its hardly ugly. Its kind of like the Scion xB.... meh.
...actually I don't think the Element is that bad looking. Its just not good looking at all, but its hardly ugly. Its kind of like the Scion xB.... meh.
#62
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http://jalopnik.com/5056738/2009-hon...s-all-over-web
Honda should seriously consider a new team of designers. Not that its any worse than the previous one but their trucks are getting battered with the ugly stick. I don't hold much hope for the new Ody in a year or two.
Honda should seriously consider a new team of designers. Not that its any worse than the previous one but their trucks are getting battered with the ugly stick. I don't hold much hope for the new Ody in a year or two.
#63
I can only imagine the Odyssey with the new flat face bug eyed styling....
I actually like the new Pilot all around, inside and out, better than the previous one. But what in the world did they do to the front end? It looks like an aged design already, like it was something Honda came out with in the mid 90's.
I actually like the new Pilot all around, inside and out, better than the previous one. But what in the world did they do to the front end? It looks like an aged design already, like it was something Honda came out with in the mid 90's.
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I think it looks good
Not much change from the current, but enough to smooth out some of the design.
Not much change from the current, but enough to smooth out some of the design.
#65
The sizzle in the Steak
Thanks Honda....for more ugly.
#66
It hardly changed, interior is almost the same
#68
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2nd Generation
The Element crossover wasn’t exactly the sales hit Honda was hoping for, but the Japanese automaker will reportedly give the funky CUV a second chance with an all-new model. The Element hit the market in 2003 and has only received minor updates.
Although the Element hasn’t set the sales charts on fire, it is drawing a different buyer into Honda showrooms. As such, Honda execs are keen to keep a vehicle like the Element in production. “Our specialty vehicles give a little spice to the brand,” John Mendel, Honda’s executive vice president, told Automotive News. “It’s all about platform usability. And the Element is part of that strategy.”
According to Honda’s findings, Element buyers rarely –if ever – cross-shop the Element with its platform mate, the Honda CR-V. “In the showroom you couldn’t get most Element buyers to even sit in a CR-V,” Mende said. As such, Honda wants to keep a more flexible and youth-oriented vehicle in showrooms, even if the current Element isn’t selling as well as expected.
Honda originally set an internal sales goal of 75,000 Element sales per year, but only managed a high of 67,500 units during its first year on the markets. Sales have been on the slide since then, with only 13,500 Element sales tallied this year. But still, the Element is attracting a different kind of buyer to the Honda showroom.
Mende failed to give any details on the Element replacement, including if the new model would carry the Element nameplate. However, as the Element is now approaching its 7th birthday, we suspect the new model will be available sooner rather than later.
Although the Element hasn’t set the sales charts on fire, it is drawing a different buyer into Honda showrooms. As such, Honda execs are keen to keep a vehicle like the Element in production. “Our specialty vehicles give a little spice to the brand,” John Mendel, Honda’s executive vice president, told Automotive News. “It’s all about platform usability. And the Element is part of that strategy.”
According to Honda’s findings, Element buyers rarely –if ever – cross-shop the Element with its platform mate, the Honda CR-V. “In the showroom you couldn’t get most Element buyers to even sit in a CR-V,” Mende said. As such, Honda wants to keep a more flexible and youth-oriented vehicle in showrooms, even if the current Element isn’t selling as well as expected.
Honda originally set an internal sales goal of 75,000 Element sales per year, but only managed a high of 67,500 units during its first year on the markets. Sales have been on the slide since then, with only 13,500 Element sales tallied this year. But still, the Element is attracting a different kind of buyer to the Honda showroom.
Mende failed to give any details on the Element replacement, including if the new model would carry the Element nameplate. However, as the Element is now approaching its 7th birthday, we suspect the new model will be available sooner rather than later.
#69
The sizzle in the Steak
Like a zombie this thing won't die
#70
I drive a Subata.
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#71
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Honda originally set an internal sales goal of 75,000 Element sales per year, but only managed a high of 67,500 units during its first year on the markets. Sales have been on the slide since then, with only 13,500 Element sales tallied this year.
#72
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“It’s all about platform usability. And the Element is part of that strategy.”
Any idea what world wide sales are? Because continuing production for 13.5K seems like time and money well wasted.
#73
The sizzle in the Steak
My advice: Stop. Stop looking for something that's not there.
Your head might explode.
#74
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#75
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My guess is that Element probably makes a little money or break even for Honda. Since much of the platform is off CR-V, Honda is essentially selling a CR-V that looks different.
The part about buyers being different is interesting. Does Honda really get a lot of young buyers? with surf boards? my subjective impression is that the buyers seem to be in the 50s.
The part about buyers being different is interesting. Does Honda really get a lot of young buyers? with surf boards? my subjective impression is that the buyers seem to be in the 50s.
#76
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Recall
The 2010 Honda Element is being recalled for a problem with its shifter.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has issued the recall for the Element and ordered that Honda stop selling the vehicle until August 13, 2010, so that repairs can be made to vehicles coming off assembly lines and those at dealers.
The recall affects just 585 vehicles built from April 1, 2010, to June 25, 2010, according to the NHTSA.
According to the manufacturer, the cable that connects the shift lever to the transmission isn't set properly, which could lead to the car failing to engage the selected gear. The shift issue could also prevent owners from removing the key from the ignition, and could even keep drivers from being able to shift into park.
All affected vehicles will be repaired free of charge. To arrange your repair, call Honda at 800-999-1009 and mention campaign number R45 to see if your Element is included in the recall.
#77
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Dog-Friendly Pkg Test Drive
We've always thought of the Honda Element as one of the best vehicles for dog owners. Thanks to its tall cabin, easy-clean cargo floor and versatile seating arrangement, it's long been a favorite among active folks with dogs.
For 2010, Honda finally took advantage of the Element's usefulness—or pawtential, we've said—by introducing a new Dog Friendly Element. Our own pooch, Owen, is usually a willing adventurer, if a little anxious as a passenger, so it seemed like a no-brainer for us to hop in a Dog-Friendly Element, test out its creature comforts, and head for a hiking trail.
The Dog Friendly package includes a host of additional accessories, which Owen and I put through the paces on the way to and from our hike. Special 2nd-row seat covers allowed Owen to be belted in with his harness (you should never let a dog ride shotgun, or be loose in the vehicle) in a special dog pattern, as well as rubbery bone-pattern floor mats.
The centerpiece of the Dog Friendly package is a soft-sided car kennel, made by the safety supplier Takata, of seatbelt-grade vinyl webbing. Owen fit into it perfectly, the floor is soft and it includes a ventilation fan and water dish. All that said, it was a little too claustrophobic for him, especially when we zipped up the screen; but plenty of dogs dig that.
The package also includes an extendable (5 foot or so) ramp that stows under the kennel floor in a separate compartment. It would surely be handy for the smaller or arthritic pups, but my hound just didn't get the need for this either.
As we've reported about other Honda Element models in the past, including the 2010 Element, this utility vehicle is hard to beat for people who often have 1 or 2 people plus gear to carry. The Element's suicide-type door setup (back doors are hinged at the rear) allows a very wide opening for loading, and the back seats fold down easily, with the tall, boxy body enabling more useful cargo capability than in most other utility vehicles. Only when you try to fit adult passengers in back do you run into the tradeoffs: flat, short cushions back there that aren't very comfortable for longer trips, as well as a door arrangement that requires back doors to be closed before the front ones.
The Element's 2.4-liter 4-cylinder engine doesn't have awesome thrust, but it's quick enough, and the 5-speed automatic shifts smoothly most of the time (except when rolling back onto the throttle out of a tight turn, when it would often hesitate between gears for a moment). The most surprising thing about the Element, for those who've never driven one, is that it doesn't at all feel tipsy, and even with some crosswinds on the highway it still tracks straight. At lower speeds especially, the Element feels confident and nimble—credit underpinnings that are shared with Honda's small cars.
And it's frugal: Over a week, I covered about 250 miles in all, with and without Owen, and averaged about 25 mpg—beating the 4WD test vehicle's 19 mpg city, 24 highway EPA rating.
The Dog Friendly package costs just $995, which brought the price of our top-of-the-line 2010 Honda Element EX (with navigation) up to $27,365. I'm pretty convinced that's a good value, but Owen is still hinting that it could buy the mother lode of kibs.
#79
The sizzle in the Steak
Serioiusly.....was this story from the Onion?
#80
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maybe i should sell my Expedition because it doesnt have a dog ramp and rubber floor mats with dog bones on them