00TL-P3.2

Need to see it in person, almost looks 'bloated' below the beltline....

oonowindoo

^very similar design as the current Gen...

TSX69

Honda prices retooled 2017 CR-V from $24,925

November 30, 2016 @ 12:01 am

David Undercoffler

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SharesThe fifth-generation CR-V will hit dealers on Dec. 21.PHOTO GALLERY: 2017 Honda CR-V

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Honda’s redesigned 2017 CR-V will go on sale next month with a price tag remarkably similar to the outgoing model.

The 5th-generation CR-V will hit dealers on Dec. 21 with a starting price of $24,925 for the base LX model, a $200 increase over the older 2016 version. The EX trim -- expected to be Honda’s most popular with 30 percent of CR-V sales -- will start at $27,575, up $580 from before.

A fully loaded Touring edition will be $33,275, a jump of just $180 over its predecessor. As with the prior generation, front-wheel-drive is standard, while all-wheel-drive will be a $1,300 option.

All prices include $880 destination for the 2017 CR-V. The CR-V is the top-selling compact crossover in the U.S., with deliveries rising 1.8 percent this year to 293,799 through October.

The 2017 CR-V will ride into showrooms with a variety of updates under its reformed skin. A 1.5-liter turbocharged 4-cylinder engine will be standard on all but the LX models, and it will make 190 horsepower and 179 pound-feet of torque. A CVT is standard on all models.

Honda expects 75% of CR-V buyers to opt for the EX, EX-L, EX-L with navigation and Touring trim levels. In addition to the new powertrain -- which it shares with the Civic -- CR-Vs in EX and higher trim level will come standard with Honda Sensing, a suite of safety technology that includes pre-collision braking, lane-departure warning and mitigation and adaptive cruise control.

These additions help Honda target a Top Safety Pick Plus rating from the IIHS and an NCAP 5-star overall score from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

EPA ratings are also improved, reflecting the use of the turbo engine. 2-wheel-drive models with the turbocharged engine see a two-mile-per-gallon increase over the previous generation for both city and highway efficiency. For 2017, the turbo models are rated at 28 mpg city, 34 mpg highway. Adding all-wheel-drive knocks off 1 mpg for each rating.

In addition to sharing the Civic’s powertrain, the 2017 CR-V also rides on the same modular chassis as the current Civic. It will also underpin the next-generation Accord set to debut in 2017.

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00TL-P3.2

those wheels....
Are those 'touch' buttons on the steering wheel? That was one thing I didn't like in the HR-V, was the full touch screen, no knobs/buttons at all.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

From other photos online, I think those are physical buttons on the steering wheel (i.e. you can press down on them and they move)...if that's what you are asking. May be someone else can confirm..

Are you talking about the center console touch screen? I think that's a volume/power knob on the left? Other key controls such as A/C, heated seats, and heated mirrors all have physical buttons.

00TL-P3.2

Right, what looks like a volume control on the steering wheel doesn't look like a 'button' on the picture above.
For the center screen, the HR-V I test drove did not have a separate volume/power knob. Was all touch screen buttons, really didn't like it.

SamDoe1

Yes, normal buttons. Also there's a real volume knob as well. Now if only they can pull the stupid dual screen shit setup out of their other cars.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

Ya, I think going forward this is (the new CR-V) the layout that Honda will be using (i.e. next gen Accord, Odyssey). Ridgeline, Pilot, Civic, new CR-V, HR-V etc are all using the single screen setup.

And I'm guessing volume knob will be added to cars that don't already have it.

oonowindoo

I am just glad they did not go with the dual screen setup.

For some reason the people at Honda are a lot more logical than the people at Acura.

00TL-P3.2

I think I read somewhere that they got enough complaints about the full-touch center screen that they added back the volume knob.
Overall, I like it.

Curious3GTL

Wow, that looks like really high dollar leather. I am sure they will sell a lot of these.

SamDoe1

This is why I continue to not see the point in Acura in general. Make it a trim level and call it good...or not because they are more or less the same car anyway. There's not a big enough difference between Honda and Acura anymore to justify the price difference.

VR1

lol my mom has a 2017 RDX Tech.. That infotainment system above looks MUCH better and high dollar then the crappy Acura infotainment systems.

SamDoe1

I agree and for the large part Hondas have better interior and exterior designs than comparable Acuras.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

This is exactly why the sales of Acura sedans are tanking. The SUV's are holding its own because the MDX is actually a very nice SUV while the RDX has proper V6 power.

And this is also why Acura introduced the Precision Concept stuff. Whatever they have now is outdated and not good enough. The Precision Concept is to show that they are doing something about it. The main concern is that Acura needs those changes asap.

kurtatx

The problem is, the precision concept isn't an actual model. The MDX facelift is underwhelming. We need to see a full generational update to see the actual fruits of the concept.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

ya...just need to wait..again..ahahahaha

kurtatx

We should have to wait no more than 6 months.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

good luck with that it's Acura we are talking about man!

kurtatx

Right. I'm frustrated as an Acura owner. I'll be going elsewhere soon.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

Ya, I'd imagine that's the best way to get the message across to Acura. Once enough people move away from them, they will have to act.

rondog

iTrader: (1)

They are bound by the status quo, whatever is popular at the time WILL influence them. It's like math class, not like art class. Too much riding on every little decision, so whatever is proven by popularity and sales is what they are going to do. Can't please everybody,

fsttyms1

Problem is is they are having a hard time pleasing anybody. They lack the appendages to attempt to lead. They take too much time trying to figure out what will sell and by time they get it out there its outdated. They need to think ahead, bring it out ahead, and they need to not take so long in between design to reality.

oonowindoo

Finally saw 1 in person yesterday.

I think the pictures looked better than the actual car but still much improved over the previous Gen.

Legend2TL

Saw a 2017 EX-L at dealer yesterday next to a 2016. Nice redesign.
It's very similar to the 2016 but more muscular and aggressive in it's lines.
I like the interior alot more and the rear C pillar got sharpened up some.

00TL-P3.2

https://www.motor1.com/news/267569/h...brid-revealed/

RPhilMan1

Nice torque.

biker

Honda appears to be having problems with its bread and butter crossover. Some owners of 2017 and 2018 CR-Vs equipped with the new 1.5-liter turbocharged I4 have been reporting stalling and reduced power output, resulting in a top speed of 20 mph.

Consumer Reports has confirmed several instances of this problem, and there are numerous complaints via online forums and social media. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has also confirmed reports with CR of gasoline scents in the passenger compartment and dilution of engine oil with gas. NHTSA did not confirm any complaints about stalling or loss of engine power.

The problem appears to stem from unburned fuel finding its way into the engine’s lubrication system. Honda released an official statement that confirmed that they are aware of the issue and that they are working on a solution. According to the statement, the fix should be ready by mid-November and will be covered under warranty. Honda will also be applying the fix to all 2019 CR-Vs.


The complaints from owners began in 2017. Many of the reports have originated in areas with cold weather but have not been exclusive to those climates. Experts have said the most likely culprits are the design of the fuel injectors or a lack of heat in the cylinder resulting in incomplete vaporization of the fuel. Excess fuel in the combustion chamber and oil system can dilute the oil’s lubricity, which could result significant internal damage to the motor.

According to CR and NHTSA, the only consistent fix Honda has presented to date is offering owners frequent free oil changes. Some cars have had their fuel injectors and spark plugs replaced. Though Honda has confirmed the issue, the company has not officially said what the repair will be.

Honda did issue a service bulletin for 380,000 CR-Vs and some Civic models in China for a similar problem. The recall instructed owners to take their vehicles to the dealer to address “an inappropriate fuel-injection setting” that caused unburnt fuel to seep into the engine’s oil at temperatures of -4° F and below, especially in vehicles were used for short trips. The U.S. spec CR-V and Civic do share the 1.5-liter turbo engine, but with different outputs, boost pressures and fuel injection mapping. It is not likely that Honda will issue a recall for the problem in the U.S. -- the notice that Honda sent out in China was deemed a “safety recall”, but that term does not carry the same connotation as it does in North America.

In the meantime, if you have a 2017 or 2018 Honda CR-V with a 1.5 turbo engine, you should check your oil frequently and watch for warning signs including high oil level and/or a fuel smell in the oil or in the cabin. Other signs include heaters that don’t work well or at all in cold weather and the aforementioned stalling and low power output.


Read more: https://autoweek.com/article/car-new...#ixzz5TSAouj7n

RPhilMan1

Going to need to watch this closely. As it gets colder, this is more concerning. Mid-November is starting to get to that pretty cold period. Let's hope it's sooner rather than later.

So far no gas smells. I will check the oil as well.

Otherwise, this little engine is fantastic.

biker

Surprised there's no mention of this in the Accord.

00TL-P3.2

You bought a CRV?

RPhilMan1

I mentioned it somewhere several weeks back, but it was time for the wife to upgrade from her '07 Civic Coupe. Always had the CR-V on the radar and we bought a '18 AWD Touring last month. It's really great. And even I love driving it. And when I get back into my car, it feels like a race car compared to it.

Haven't had an opportunity to take pictures yet but I eventually will. The tech on it is amazing. And the LED headlights & taillights look great.

00TL-P3.2

Nice, must've missed that one.
If we didn't use the 3rd row fairly regularly, a CRV would probably be on the list for an eventual Flex replacement.

TSX69

https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-au...shened-styling

2020 Honda CR-V: America’s Most Popular CUV Gets New U.S.-Built Hybrid-Electric Version, Standard Honda Sensing® and Freshened Styling

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September 18, 2019 — DETROIT

• CR-V is America's most popular CUV over the past 22 years
• Honda's first hybrid-electric SUV leads plan to electrify light trucks
• New investments and jobs to build 2020 CR-V Hybrid in Indiana

America's best-selling crossover of the past 2 decades gets a major boost with the introduction of the 2020 Honda CR-V, sporting freshened styling, new features and upgraded powertrains—including a new CR-V Hybrid to be built in the company's Greensburg, Indiana plant1. The 2020 CR-V Hybrid is the first electrified SUV from the Honda brand in America, joining the Accord Hybrid and Insight as the third electrified Honda manufactured in the U.S. as the company moves to apply its advanced 2-motor hybrid-electric system to all of its core U.S. models in the years ahead.

In addition to the new hybrid-electric variant, major upgrades to the 2020 CR-V include bolder front and rear styling, re-designed wheels and standard Honda Sensing® safety and driver-assistive technology (previously available only on EX and above trims). All non-hybrid 2020 CR-V models are now powered by the 1.5-liter VTEC™ Turbo engine, previously available only in EX and above trims. The 2020 CR-V will go on sale at Honda dealerships nationwide this fall, followed by the launch of the all-new CR-V Hybrid in early 2020.

Production of the CR-V Hybrid for the U.S. market will take place at Honda's Greensburg, Indiana plant alongside CR-V and the Insight hybrid sedan. The company will invest $4.2 million and add 34 new jobs in the plant to support production of the CR-V Hybrid. Honda's Russells Point, Ohio, plant will manufacture the CR-V Hybrid's 2-motor power unit, and the company's Anna, Ohio, engine plant will produce its 2.0-liter 4-cylinder engine.

"The Honda CR-V is the best-selling CUV over the past two decades and the updates we've made to the 2020 model, including a new hybrid-electric variant, solidify its position as a leader in the compact SUV market," said Henio Arcangeli, Jr., senior vice president of Automobile Sales at American Honda Motor Co., Inc. "The CR-V Hybrid also signifies our direction to bring Honda hybrid-electric technology to all core models and to invest in the production of electrified vehicles in America."

Honda Electrification Initiative

Honda is targeting two-thirds of its global automobile sales to come from electrified vehicles by 2030. In North America, Honda is focusing on the expanded application of its advanced 2-motor hybrid-electric technology as the most effective means to meet customer needs while realizing significant near-term gains in fuel efficiency and accompanying reductions in CO2 emissions that contribute to global climate change.

U.S. sales of electrified Honda vehicles are on track for a 3rd consecutive year of growth. For the 1st 8 months of 2019, sales of Accord Hybrid, Insight and Clarity have reached 42,270 combined sales, propelling Honda electrified vehicle sales to year-over-year gains of 67.9 percent. In 2018, Honda set a new record of 49,914 electrified vehicle sales in the U.S., which were nearly double 2017 results.

Advanced Powertrains

The 2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid promises substantially improved fuel efficiency while maintaining CR-V's award-winning balance of interior space, driving dynamics and comfort that has made CR-V such a success with American buyers. The CR-V's advanced 2-motor hybrid powertrain, shared with the current Accord Hybrid, combines 2 electric motors with a 2.0-liter, 16-valve DOHC Atkinson cycle engine with greater than 40 percent thermal efficiency, the highest for any mass-produced Honda engine.

The CR-V's 2-motor system operates without the need for a conventional automatic transmission for smooth and seamless power delivery similar to a pure electric vehicle, and boasts a broad range of electric-only operation. The compact intelligent power unit (IPU), containing the hybrid battery pack and its control systems, is mounted under the cargo floor, allowing the new CR-V Hybrid to retain excellent cargo utility, including a 60/40 split rear seatback with a flat load floor. Peak total system horsepower is 212, up from 190 HP on the CR-V, along with an anticipated 50 percent increase in the EPA city fuel economy rating compared to the CR-V.

The CR-V Hybrid also marks the 1st application of all-wheel drive to Honda's 2-motor hybrid system in the U.S. When available traction is low, an electronic clutch activates, sending the appropriate level of power from the electric motor to the rear wheels. Detailed specifications on the new CR-V Hybrid, including EPA fuel economy ratings, will be provided closer to on-sale timing early in 2020.

Also for 2020, all non-hybrid CR-V models, including LX, are powered by the efficient 1.5-liter DOHC, direct-injected VTEC™ Turbo powerplant rated at 190 horsepower (SAE net), with responsive and refined performance across the engine's full operating range. Available in front- or all-wheel drive configurations, power is transmitted through a smooth yet sporty continuously variable transmission (CVT) with Honda G-Shift control logic.

Sophisticated Interior and Exterior Styling

Exterior styling updates to the 2020 Honda CR-V result in a more upscale and rugged appearance. In front, broad openings for the fog lights are fully integrated into the bumper, giving the 2020 CR-V a more aggressive look, while the chrome grille is more pronounced. CR-V EX, EX-L and Touring trims get round LED fog lights, while CR-V Hybrid models in the same trims get distinctive bar-type fog lights with five LEDs.

CR-V Hybrid models will also get hybrid badging and a distinctive blue Honda logo in the center of the grille. In the rear, all CR-V trims feature sophisticated new dark-tinted taillights and a new dark chrome treatment for the garnish below the rear glass, better integrated with the more darkly tinted rear window. In addition to hybrid badges on the hatch, CR-V Hybrid Touring trims receive a unique rear bumper. CR-V Hybrid also has a hidden tailpipe, while non-hybrid CR-V Touring trims get new chrome exhaust finishers for a sporty appearance. All CR-V EX and EX-L trims, including Hybrid, get newly designed 18-inch wheels with a dark gray and machined finish, and Touring trims get a new, larger 19-inch wheel and tire (+1 inch).

3 new exterior colors are available for 2020: Sonic Gray Pearl and Radiant Red Metallic on standard and Hybrid models, and new Aegean Blue Metallic is available exclusively on non-hybrid models.

Inside, the new CR-V Hybrid is distinguished from non-hybrid models through its unique interior trim. Most apparent is the new push-button gear selector flanked by 3 switches for Econ, Sport or EV mode. Econ mode alters throttle inputs to help driver's maximize fuel efficiency, while Sport enhances throttle response for a more aggressive feel, with the engine sound enhanced by Active Sound Control for a sportier note. EV Mode allows the CR-V Hybrid to operate under electric-only power when the hybrid battery has a sufficient charge.

The instrument panel also is unique to CR-V Hybrid models, and features a display for power/charge status, as well as a driver-selectable display for power distribution and regeneration. CR-V Hybrid models also receive deceleration selector paddles on the steering wheel. By clicking the left paddle, drivers can increase the amount of regenerative braking from the hybrid system's electric motor when decelerating.

All 2020 Honda CR-V models and trims benefit from a redesigned center console bin that is easier to use and offers more flexible storage options, and CR-V Touring trims now come standard with Qi-compatible wireless cell phone charging. Additional in-vehicle technology includes a color TFT driver-information interface (DII) center meter display, available 7-inch touchscreen Display Audio interface with Apple CarPlay® and Android Auto™ integration, and an available Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System™. Also available are remote engine start, dual-zone climate control, an Electric Parking Brake (EPB), rear USB charging ports, front passenger seat with 4-way power adjustment, driver's seat with 8-way power adjustment and 4-way power lumbar support, and heated front seats. All CR-V models, including the hybrid model, continue to offer top-class interior space with legendary Honda versatility.

Advanced Safety and Driver-Assistive Technology

With the 2020 model year, all Honda CR-Vs now come standard with the Honda Sensing® suite of advanced safety and driver-assistive technologies, including:

• Collision Mitigation Braking System™ (CMBS™) with Forward Collision Warning (FCW) and pedestrian sensing capability
• Road Departure Mitigation (RDM) with Lane Departure Warning (LDW)
• Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) with low-speed follow
• Lane Keeping Assist (LKAS)

Additional driver-assistive technologies include the available blind spot information (BSI), Rear Cross Traffic Monitor (CTM) and Auto High Beam headlights.

CR-V Hybrid models benefit from a new Acoustic Vehicle Alerting System (AVAS) designed to increase awareness by pedestrians when travelling under electric-only power. A speaker mounted in the front bumper generates a distinct audible alert that varies in volume depending on vehicle speed and is easily noticeable to pedestrians, but nearly inaudible to the driver or passengers under most circumstances.

The 2020 Honda CR-V also incorporates Honda's next-generation Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure, helping CR-V achieve the highest possible collision safety ratings, including an NCAP 5-Star Overall Vehicle Score from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), and targeting a TOP SAFETY PICK+ rating from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS).

Chassis Technology

The 2020 Honda CR-V and CR-V Hybrid maintain the same agile and confident handling, greater refinement, additional ground clearance and superior overall versatility versus its competition. Its front MacPherson strut and rear multi-link suspension use specially tuned low-friction dampers, with both FWD and AWD models including tubular front and solid rear stabilizer bars that promote responsive turn-in and flatter cornering. Dual-pinion, variable ratio Electric Power Steering (EPS) also contributes to the CR-V's direct and satisfying steering feel. For CR-V Hybrid, an electronic servo brake pedal maintains a firm and linear brake feel like its non-hybrid sibling.

About CR-V
With U.S. retail sales of the Honda CR-V approaching 5 million units since its U.S. launch in 1997, the CR-V has been America's best-selling crossover SUV over the past 22 years. The current-model, 5th-generation CR-V is manufactured in plants in North America, in Marysville and East Liberty, Ohio; Greensburg, Indiana; and Ontario, Canada. Retail sales of CR-V this year tally more than 200-thousand units, putting CR-V on-pace for its seventh year in a row for sales of 300-thousand units or more.

About Honda
Honda offers a full line of reliable, fuel-efficient and fun-to-drive vehicles with advanced safety technologies sold through over 1,000 independent U.S. Honda dealers. The Honda lineup includes the Fit, Civic, Insight, Accord and Clarity series passenger cars, along with the HR-V, CR-V, Passport and Pilot sport utility vehicles, the Ridgeline pickup and the Odyssey minivan.

Honda has been producing automobiles in America for more than 35 years and currently operates 19 major manufacturing facilities in North America. In the first half of 2019, nearly 90 percent of all Honda brand vehicles sold in the U.S. were made in North America, while nearly two-thirds were manufactured in the U.S., using domestic and globally sourced parts.

For More Information
Additional media information including detailed pricing features and high-resolution photography of all 2020 Honda models is available at hondanews.com. Consumer information is available atautomobiles.honda.com. To join the Honda community on Facebook, visit facebook.com/honda.

biker

00TL-P3.2

Looks pretty good, IMO.
Still not a fan of the push button 'shifter'/gear selector.

F23A4

Seems like a natural progression, particularly given the shift away from sedans towards crossovers. I’d like to see how the real world performance pans out in terms of fuel economy.

I would also be interested in seeing a 2.0T version of the CR-V but I suppose the RDX fills that preference.

AZuser

Honda still doesn't get it.

"You never put Navigation screen under the vents"

oonowindoo

There is not going to be one... it will be too expensive for what it is and the 1.5T is more than enough to compete in that segment.

I am curious if the LX will get a price hike due to the added safety features and 1.5T....

SamDoe1

I doubt many people even bought the LX so it probably doesn't matter.

That said, this thing is solidly "meh" but will sell by the thousands every week.