Honda: CR-V News
11-10-2011, 11:22 AM
#601
AZ Community Team
Sorta kidding, since I have to replace my 3G TL driver seat cushion heater and yet another damn little instrumentation light bulb this weekend. And our Pilot also has one bulb out in the climate control panel. I've replaced 6 of those damn little lights which are a b*&^% to get to.
Last edited by Legend2TL; 11-10-2011 at 11:25 AM.
11-10-2011, 01:35 PM
#602
The sizzle in the Steak
That's it Deb, get back into SOP
Sorta kidding, since I have to replace my 3G TL driver seat cushion heater and yet another damn little instrumentation light bulb this weekend. And our Pilot also has one bulb out in the climate control panel. I've replaced 6 of those damn little lights which are a b*&^% to get to.
Sorta kidding, since I have to replace my 3G TL driver seat cushion heater and yet another damn little instrumentation light bulb this weekend. And our Pilot also has one bulb out in the climate control panel. I've replaced 6 of those damn little lights which are a b*&^% to get to.
I was a hardcore Honda guy for many many moons. Owned everything from cars to bikes, to yard equipment.
...but Honda has seriously taken a bad turn....on many levels.
I hope they turn it around and begin to lead, but it does not seem to be the case.
I had high hopes for the new CRV, but to find the powertrain is pretty much the same old OLD stuff that is behind the rest of the competition is simply sad.
11-10-2011, 02:17 PM
#605
The sizzle in the Steak
Looks fully optioned with leather and nav......and yup, no keyless start. 
11-10-2011, 02:50 PM
#606
Whats up with RDX owners?
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It looks good, yet awkward at the same time.
11-10-2011, 03:35 PM
#607
Not digging how awkward that rear quarter panel looks. Sticks out too much.
11-10-2011, 04:02 PM
#608
Pro
11-10-2011, 04:37 PM
#609
the chrome door handles are gone, looks like the metal accent surrounding the gauges are gone too. the little bits of chrome & metal work made the current CR-V interior feel a little more lux than the rest of the Honda line up, which relies too much on that painted metal crap. and I see flat plastic vs the textured kind that's in the current one as well.
11-10-2011, 06:49 PM
#611
My first Avatar....
11-11-2011, 05:51 AM
#613
AZ Community Team
11-16-2011, 04:22 PM
#615
The sizzle in the Steak
First Drive Review: LLN
http://www.leftlanenews.com/honda-cr...e-review.html#
...just don't mate that thing to a V6 
http://www.leftlanenews.com/honda-cr...e-review.html#
When questioned about the lack of a six speed automatic transmission, Honda’s Jenkins stated “right now we have a bulletproof transmission. We’re using other technologies that will get us the same effect (better fuel economy). We felt the five-speed gave us the best combination of balance, weight and fuel performance. Since the weight was in balance, we used a higher gear ratio to achieve the better fuel mileage.”
Leftlane’s bottom line
Honda is a conservative company, as pretty much all of its recent models have illustrated. Rather than start with a clean sheet, Honda has chosen to refine and improve existing technologies to add to their vehicle’s power and efficiency.
Bundling up that efficiency in a new and generally attractive package only adds to the overall value. But the competition is ever fiercer, so it’s hard to say if CR-V will be able to remain on top forever.
Honda is a conservative company, as pretty much all of its recent models have illustrated. Rather than start with a clean sheet, Honda has chosen to refine and improve existing technologies to add to their vehicle’s power and efficiency.
Bundling up that efficiency in a new and generally attractive package only adds to the overall value. But the competition is ever fiercer, so it’s hard to say if CR-V will be able to remain on top forever.
11-16-2011, 04:30 PM
#616
Senior Moderator
The all-new, the fourth-generation Honda CR-V debuted today at the Los Angeles Auto Show. The 2012 CR-V introduces an upscale styling direction, greater fuel efficiency, and added features and functionality. The CR-V will go on-sale at Honda dealerships nationwide on December 15th.
With the previous-generation CR-V recognized as a "Top Recommended Vehicle" and having the "Best Retained Value SUV under $25,000" by Edmunds.com, and named top compact crossover SUV in dependability by J.D. Power and Associates, the all-new 2012 model introduces the latest evolution of Honda's successful CR-V formula. Compact on the outside and roomy inside, the CR-V represents an ideal balance for size and capability in the entry SUV segment. The all-new five-passenger CR-V offers improved car-like interior comfort, a smoother and quieter ride, and even more innovative features than the previous model.
Powerful and Efficient 4-Cylinder Engine
Leading the changes are a more efficient engine design with improved horsepower and torque, along with an all-new Real Time All-Wheel-Drive (AWD) with Intelligent Control System™. All CR-Vs are powered by a 2.4-liter i-VTEC 4-cylinder engine with 185 horsepower and 163 lb-ft. of torque paired with a standard 5-speed automatic transmission. EPA-estimated fuel economy1 is rated at 23/31/26 mpg city/highway/combined (FWD) (an increase of +2/+3/+2 mpg compared to the 2011 CR-V), and a compact SUV-class leading 22/30/25 mpg city/highway/combined (AWD) (an increase of +1/+3/+2 mpg compared to the 2011 CR-V). Eco Assist, a new feature on the CR-V for 2012, indicates to the driver when the vehicle is being operated in an efficient style via "green" visual cues surrounding the speedometer, and a selectable ECON Mode alters operating characteristics of the vehicle to support an efficient driving style.
New Standard Features
New for 2012 standard features include an Easy Fold-Down 60/40 Split Rear Seat and a range of standard technology features. New high-tech features on all models include a Bluetooth®2 HandsFreeLink® phone interface (previously an available feature), a full-color intelligent Multi-Information Display (i-MID) and a multi-angle rearview camera with guidelines. As a first for Honda, every 2012 CR-V includes an SMS text messaging function, which can read received texts from compatible cell phones aloud over the audio system. Another first is the introduction of a Pandora® Internet Radio interface3, compatible with the Apple® iPhone®, which works with the vehicle's audio controls and i-MID.
Model Range
The CR-V lineup starts with the CR-V LX model, now with more standard equipment for 2012. The CR-V LX is equipped with air conditioning, cruise control, Bluetooth HandsFreeLink, i-MID, remote entry, a 160-watt, a 4-speaker audio system, Motion-Adaptive Electric Power Steering (EPS). The CR-V EX adds an upgraded six-speaker audio system, power moonroof, 17-inch alloy wheels and more. The CR-V EX-L builds on the rich features of the CR-V EX and adds a leather-trimmed interior, 10-way power driver's seat, automatic dual-zone climate control, 328-watt 7-speaker audio system with XM®4 Radio and much more. Available features for the CR-V EX-L include the Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System5 with Voice Recognition™ and FM Traffic, or a DVD Rear Entertainment System (not available with Navigation). Real Time AWD with Intelligent Control System™ is an available feature on each model.
Design
The 2012 CR-V body adopts a more dynamic and sophisticated appearance compared to the previous generation. The CR‑V's spacious interior layout is more accommodating with a roomy new center console (now standard) and an overall lower cargo floor height for easy loading and unloading. The new Easy Fold-Down 60/40 Split Rear Seat makes accessing the full capability of the cargo area much more convenient than traditional folding seats. Each side of the rear seat can fold nearly flat into the front of the cargo area using one of the release levers located near the tailgate, or a pull-strap positioned on the seat side.
Safety
Every CR-V incorporates as standard equipment VSA, an electronic stability control system; an Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) with Brake Assist; side-curtain airbags; front-side airbags with a passenger-side Occupant Position Detection System (OPDS); and a front seat design that can help reduce the severity of neck injury in the event of a rear collision. An Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure in the front of the vehicle helps make the vehicle highly effective at absorbing and dispersing the energy of a frontal crash.
Warranty
The 2012 Honda CR-V is covered by a 3-year/36,000-mile new-car limited warranty, a 5-year/60,000-mile powertrain limited warranty, and a 5-year/unlimited-mile corrosion limited warranty.
With the previous-generation CR-V recognized as a "Top Recommended Vehicle" and having the "Best Retained Value SUV under $25,000" by Edmunds.com, and named top compact crossover SUV in dependability by J.D. Power and Associates, the all-new 2012 model introduces the latest evolution of Honda's successful CR-V formula. Compact on the outside and roomy inside, the CR-V represents an ideal balance for size and capability in the entry SUV segment. The all-new five-passenger CR-V offers improved car-like interior comfort, a smoother and quieter ride, and even more innovative features than the previous model.
Powerful and Efficient 4-Cylinder Engine
Leading the changes are a more efficient engine design with improved horsepower and torque, along with an all-new Real Time All-Wheel-Drive (AWD) with Intelligent Control System™. All CR-Vs are powered by a 2.4-liter i-VTEC 4-cylinder engine with 185 horsepower and 163 lb-ft. of torque paired with a standard 5-speed automatic transmission. EPA-estimated fuel economy1 is rated at 23/31/26 mpg city/highway/combined (FWD) (an increase of +2/+3/+2 mpg compared to the 2011 CR-V), and a compact SUV-class leading 22/30/25 mpg city/highway/combined (AWD) (an increase of +1/+3/+2 mpg compared to the 2011 CR-V). Eco Assist, a new feature on the CR-V for 2012, indicates to the driver when the vehicle is being operated in an efficient style via "green" visual cues surrounding the speedometer, and a selectable ECON Mode alters operating characteristics of the vehicle to support an efficient driving style.
New Standard Features
New for 2012 standard features include an Easy Fold-Down 60/40 Split Rear Seat and a range of standard technology features. New high-tech features on all models include a Bluetooth®2 HandsFreeLink® phone interface (previously an available feature), a full-color intelligent Multi-Information Display (i-MID) and a multi-angle rearview camera with guidelines. As a first for Honda, every 2012 CR-V includes an SMS text messaging function, which can read received texts from compatible cell phones aloud over the audio system. Another first is the introduction of a Pandora® Internet Radio interface3, compatible with the Apple® iPhone®, which works with the vehicle's audio controls and i-MID.
Model Range
The CR-V lineup starts with the CR-V LX model, now with more standard equipment for 2012. The CR-V LX is equipped with air conditioning, cruise control, Bluetooth HandsFreeLink, i-MID, remote entry, a 160-watt, a 4-speaker audio system, Motion-Adaptive Electric Power Steering (EPS). The CR-V EX adds an upgraded six-speaker audio system, power moonroof, 17-inch alloy wheels and more. The CR-V EX-L builds on the rich features of the CR-V EX and adds a leather-trimmed interior, 10-way power driver's seat, automatic dual-zone climate control, 328-watt 7-speaker audio system with XM®4 Radio and much more. Available features for the CR-V EX-L include the Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System5 with Voice Recognition™ and FM Traffic, or a DVD Rear Entertainment System (not available with Navigation). Real Time AWD with Intelligent Control System™ is an available feature on each model.
Design
The 2012 CR-V body adopts a more dynamic and sophisticated appearance compared to the previous generation. The CR‑V's spacious interior layout is more accommodating with a roomy new center console (now standard) and an overall lower cargo floor height for easy loading and unloading. The new Easy Fold-Down 60/40 Split Rear Seat makes accessing the full capability of the cargo area much more convenient than traditional folding seats. Each side of the rear seat can fold nearly flat into the front of the cargo area using one of the release levers located near the tailgate, or a pull-strap positioned on the seat side.
Safety
Every CR-V incorporates as standard equipment VSA, an electronic stability control system; an Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) with Brake Assist; side-curtain airbags; front-side airbags with a passenger-side Occupant Position Detection System (OPDS); and a front seat design that can help reduce the severity of neck injury in the event of a rear collision. An Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure in the front of the vehicle helps make the vehicle highly effective at absorbing and dispersing the energy of a frontal crash.
Warranty
The 2012 Honda CR-V is covered by a 3-year/36,000-mile new-car limited warranty, a 5-year/60,000-mile powertrain limited warranty, and a 5-year/unlimited-mile corrosion limited warranty.
Same old 2.4. Christ.
11-16-2011, 04:31 PM
#617
The sizzle in the Steak
2.4 Christ 
How did he get involved with the Honda disaster?
How did he get involved with the Honda disaster?
11-16-2011, 04:43 PM
#619
The sizzle in the Steak
Needs 18's in both of the pics.
11-16-2011, 05:04 PM
#620
Three Wheelin'
Honda has had a hit on their hands since 1995 with the CR-V. Now available in over 160 countries around the globe, the Japanese automaker is not content to leave well enough alone, even though CR-V is a perennial top-10 lister. As time marches on, so too, does technology.
Officially unveiled at the 2011 Los Angeles International Auto Show, the 2012 Honda CR-V is now ready for its close up.
CR-V could possibly stand for Compact Recreational Vehicle. Or Civic Recreational Vehicle (it is built on the Civic platform). Or, perhaps Comfortable Runabout Vehicle.
To all of these, we say yes. Hop in as we take a first drive in the 2012 version of this popular vehicle.
Sculpted and chiseled
CR–V’s product planner James Jenkins says that “buyers in this segment are looking for three things: Fuel economy, attractive styling, and good value. And not so minivan-like tendencies.”
So far, so good, we say. At first glance we see lines that are inspired by vehicles costing thousands more. For example the waistline crease that runs from front to rear mimics that found on the BMW X5. We even go so far to say the rearmost side glass has its own variation of a “Hofmeister kink.”
While earlier generations of the CR-V had an almost toy-like appearance, this latest generation seems totally grown-up. That’s not to say it’s perfect, though. The three- bar grille spreads across the front in a wing–like fashion, which helps to emphasize the width, and visual strength, of this entry-level SUV. (With the vehicular hiatus of the Honda Element for 2012, the CR-V, will in fact, be the brand’s new point of entry. An Element-ish vehicle may or may not appear again at a future date.)
Flared fenders bulge out at all four corners adding to the stable look this new Honda gives off. We’d love to see larger sized tires than the 17-inch Continental M+S samples that our test vehicle rode on. From the side and rear views, the CR-V displays a contemporary refinement that looks much more expensive than this CUV’s pricing would have you believe.
Capital Improvements
Honda sought subtle improvements in the CR-V. Toward that end, it now sports, according to Honda, the lowest cargo floor in class. A new and improved electronic all-wheel-drive system in models so-equipped and motion adaptive electronic power steering help to add to the refinement. Sensors detect instability on slippery roads and offer steering inputs during cornering and braking to keep the vehicle under control.
It is now shorter by 0.8 inches, but still rides on the same wheelbase (103.1). It’s less tall by 1.0-inch, but now has an expanded interior space with best-in-class cargo capacity. Improved from 35.7 to 37.2 cu-ft., it was 56.3 inches deep; it now stretches to 61.4-inches. Although not perfectly flat, the rear seats fold forward for greatly expanded room for a Costco run.
This smaller footprint, bigger inside mantra is the same as we saw in the latest Civic, and it’s something we genuinely appreciate.
As for fuel efficiencies, the CR-V is now equipped with an ECO and “Econ” mode. While the ECO mode is a visual form of behavior modification that monitors your driving style and rewards it with green accent lighting around the gauge pod, the Econ mode adjusts and maintains engine parameters within a certain operating range, remaps the automatic transmission functions and monitors the air conditioning functions while the vehicle is idling, at a stoplight, for instance.
Interior decorating
Although not physically larger than the preceding model, the new CR-V manages to squeeze more features and functions into an already efficient space. Our “real-time” AWD EX-L model offered a premium feel – except for the 1970s–era “gathered leather look” that covered all the seats. Smooth, or even textured hides will go a long way in refining this cabin even more. But lose the gathered stitching. A display model with black leather interior looked like a bachelor pad, circa 1979.
Advances in technology are on full display in the CR-V. Starting with low-tech, a new center console storage bin can swallow a full-size purse. Add to that, a 60/40-split rear seat for more versatility. On the high-tech side of the equation add in the now standard Bluetooth HandsFreeLink for cellular phone use, and full-color intelligence multi–information–display (i-MID in Hondaspeak) with its multi-angle rearview camera that shows side and Birdseye views of the vehicle.
Every new CR–V is now equipped with an SMS text messaging function that converts text to voice for SMS readout. iPhone functionality, SirisuXM satellite radio and Pandora (using a connected smartphone for Bluetooth) are now along for the ride.
Power to the people
The CR-V is outfitted with Honda’s seemingly ubiquitous 2.4–liter iVTEC four–cylinder engine. A decrease in engine friction and improvement in air intake have increased the power to 185 horsepower and 163 lb-ft of torque. It is only available with a five-speed automatic transmission, which seems like a cog down compared to rivals. Although we tested Honda’s Real Time All-Wheel-Drive with Intelligent Control System, the CR–V can also be had in a front wheel drive configuration.
When questioned about the lack of a six speed automatic transmission, Honda’s Jenkins stated “right now we have a bulletproof transmission. We’re using other technologies that will get us the same effect (better fuel economy). We felt the five-speed gave us the best combination of balance, weight and fuel performance. Since the weight was in balance, we used a higher gear ratio to achieve the better fuel mileage.”
With the RT-AWD system, slippage in front is immediate cause to send torque to the rear wheels. Continually monitoring conditions, it changes in real-time, shifting torque, up to 100-percent, from front to rear as needed. Incidentally, Honda engineers were quick to point out, it is not similar to the system of the same name that is found in the Acura TL.
EPA estimates for our 3,545 lbs. tester slot in at 22/30 mpg for the AWD. Putting our foot in it, we managed to see a combined average of 23.8 miles per gallon during our 200-plus mile test drive in and around San Diego. That’s just a couple of clicks off of the EPA average of 25 miles per gallon. Honda says the FWD system sees numbers of 23/31 mpg.
Acceleration was impressive considering the size of the engine and the fact that Honda has not yet embraced the concept of direct injection, at least with this generation of 2.4 liter four-banger. It showed off the ability to quickly leave others behind at a traffic light. At the same time though, we had to remind ourselves that this was not a sports car and not up to the corner cutting techniques we employ while testing them. The suspension is a MacPherson strut system in front with multi-link configuration in back to help expand cargo capacity inside the vehicle.
We were impressed with the quiet ride that the CR-V was able to deliver. Highway travel was seamless without the constant drone that intrudes into the interior of some CUVs. New sound insulation and improved sound absorption show why the NVH engineers are some of the hardest working people in autodom.
Leftlane’s bottom line
Honda is a conservative company, as pretty much all of its recent models have illustrated. Rather than start with a clean sheet, Honda has chosen to refine and improve existing technologies to add to their vehicle’s power and efficiency.
Bundling up that efficiency in a new and generally attractive package only adds to the overall value. But the competition is ever fiercer, so it’s hard to say if CR-V will be able to remain on top forever.
11-16-2011, 05:11 PM
#621
I drive a Subata.
iTrader: (1)
Good review.
11-16-2011, 05:29 PM
#622
Three Wheelin'
The current Honda CR-V is one of the best-selling vehicles in the country, let alone in the the small crossover segment, and the redesigned 2012 version doesn't stray far from the formula that has made it so popular: It's easy to drive, has lots of room for its size and gets good mileage.
Improvements to the 2012 Honda CR-V's interior, cargo configurability, ride quality and standard-equipment list should keep the compact crossover atop car shoppers' must-test lists.
What's New
The CR-V drives more like a car now and has a new interior, but the exterior design stands out as being much more interesting than the current model. The front has a forward slope to it, with a large grille that actually cuts into the headlights. This is bold stuff, but without being ugly-bold like the Honda Crosstour. It won't offend.
The back end is even more of a departure, taking the vertical taillight theme from the previous generation even further. It reminds me of Volvo's sleek XC60 crossover.
From the side I thought the CR-V was longer than before, but my eyes were playing tricks on me. The CR-V is almost an inch shorter than the model it replaces, while the wheelbase stays the same. The CR-V isn't as tall, though, and that's definitely noticeable as you look over the roof.
Interior
Compared with the rest of the class — and certainly with the outgoing CR-V — the 2012 is modern and sophisticated. While it isn't a significant step up from the Chevy Equinox or Hyundai Tucson, it shares head-of-the-class status with those two in terms of quality.
Where it shines above the rest is in the comfort level for all passengers in a small space.
While the Equinox is comfortable, it's a much larger vehicle: 187.8 inches in length versus the CR-V's 178.3 inches. That's a considerable difference. However, despite this difference in exterior size the CR-V has more passenger volume. The Equinox has roughly 100 cubic feet, while the CR-V is rated at 101.5 cubic feet for the EX and higher trims and 104.1 cubic feet for the LX model.
The Tucson is smaller inside and out, and you'll feel it in the cramped interior and firm seats.
Inside the new CR-V, there's 0.4 inches more driver's seat height adjustment and 0.8 inches more travel for the tilt/telescoping steering wheel than there was in the previous version.
The front seats are very comfortable. One of the recently redesigned Civic's positives is its comfort as a daily driver, and the CR-V is similarly cozy. The vehicle I tested was a loaded EX-L with leather seats, which won raves from my co-pilot as well. There's plenty of thigh support, and if the Civic's cloth seats are any indication, the CR-V's should be more than acceptable.
Another major change for the better is a center console that runs from the armrest all the way to the dashboard. The outgoing CR-V wasted the space between the console and dash with an open floor. This new console has a large storage compartment (it could fit a small shopping bag from Starbucks and then some) and two cupholders below the shifter. There are also small storage bins on the side of the console — near where a driver's knee would be — below the cupholders that can hold a spare water bottle or other items you want to stash away.
There's plenty of room for adults in the backseat. Sitting directly behind the driver's seat that was in position for my 5-foot-10 frame, I had a few inches of knee room. I also installed a large, convertible child-safety seat in the backseat. It fit well, with enough space for a child like my 2-year-old to just miss kicking the front seat.
Performance
Under the hood remains the same 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine and five-speed automatic as the 2011 CR-V. Through various adjustments to the engine tuning, the 2012 CR-V gains five extra horsepower, putting it at 185 horses and 163 pounds-feet of torque. Yet better aerodynamics increase the mileage substantially, to 23/31 mpg city/highway (up from 21/28 mpg). That falls behind the Hyundai Tucson, at 23/31 mpg, and Chevy's Equinox at 22/32 mpg.
For the 2012 CR-V, Honda is debuting an all-new all-wheel-drive system. It delivers up to 100 percent of the power to the front or rear wheels to offer better grip at low, takeoff speeds, when it senses slippage due to road conditions.
The new, lightweight electronically controlled system leads to a big mileage gain for all-wheel-drive CR-Vs, putting it at 22/30 mpg, which tops the class. The comparable Equinox is rated 20/29 mpg, the Tucson gets 21/28 mpg and the Subaru Forester is rated 21/27 mpg with standard all-wheel drive.
I tested an all-wheel-drive model through hilly California roads in various states of smoothness, disrepair and open construction. The new model handles these road conditions smoothly, without the undulations of the previous generation.
The electric power steering is exceptionally light, requiring little effort to turn the car. It's responsive enough on twisty roads, but just barely. It is definitely not tuned for at-the-limits driving.
It's also very quiet inside the cabin, even over concrete freeways. The CR-V launches from a stop smoothly, has plenty of power for passing on highways and is generally very smooth when shifting between gears. It does generate some buzz under moderate acceleration up steep hills. I was able to test it against the current Toyota RAV4 and the previous-generation CR-V, and in this specific driving condition the buzzing was actually worse in the 2012 CR-V than in those two, though it's otherwise quieter in most circumstances.
The RAV4's ample power and responsiveness were surprising when tested back-to-back with the CR-V, but for most crossover drivers I don't think they're distinguishing enough traits to put it ahead of the CR-V.
There's also an Econ button on all CR-Vs that alters feedback and driving characteristics to elicit more fuel-efficient driving behaviors, but doesn't adjust the engine or transmission to actively save fuel. The result is drivers will have to push down on the accelerator pedal more to get the same amount of acceleration. The climate control is also adjusted incrementally, but otherwise the feature doesn't impact many of the car's driving characteristics.
Cargo
Cargo room behind the backseat has increased 1.5 cubic feet to 37.2 cubic feet. Maximum cargo capacity with both rear seats folded, however, is down 2 cubic feet to 70.9. But the numbers don't tell the full story.
The rear seats now fold flat into the floor versus the previous generation's, which folded down and then tumbled forward against the front seats. To fold the seats flat now you simply pull a lever on either side of the cargo area. That automatically springs the seat bottoms and backrests forward and down to create a low, flat floor. You can also lower the seats via controls on the seats themselves if you're at a side door rather than behind the cargo area. This ease of use is such a great improvement it can't be overlooked, and the area is plenty large for this vehicle category.
The RAV4 is rated at 36.4 cubic feet with the second row in place and 73 cubic feet with it down. The Subaru Forester, at 33.5 and 68.3 cubic feet, and the Chevy Equinox, at 31.5 and 63.7 cubic feet, respectively, are both smaller.
Features, Trims & Technology
Pricing for the new CR-V hadn't been announced at the time of publication, but Honda says it will range between $21,000 and $30,000. However, we do have complete trim level information and expect pricing among the trims to be similar to the current generation's pricing.
Trims include the base LX, EX, EX-L, EX-L Navi and EX-L RES. Honda categorizes equipment packages like navigation and rear-entertainment systems (that's the EX-L RES version) as separate trim levels, which cuts down on shoppers having to pick confusing option packages.
The LX is well-equipped with high-tech new standard features, including a 5-inch information screen, a backup camera, Bluetooth, a USB input, Pandora internet-radio capability, cruise control, 16-inch steel wheels and power windows.
There's also standard text messaging functions. The system can read incoming messages aloud and send pre-determined messages out, like "I'm running late," as long as you have a compatible smartphone. Most new BlackBerry phones and a few Android phones are compatible with the system, but the iPhone isn't.
The EX adds a six-speaker stereo, a moonroof, 17-inch alloy wheels, a one-touch up/down driver's window, power door locks, body-colored door handles and side mirrors, and a security system.
The EX-L adds leather seating, a 10-way power driver's seat, dual-zone climate control, a seven-speaker stereo with satellite radio, and heated side mirrors.
The EX-L Navi features a navigation system with a 6.5-inch screen, voice recognition and live traffic information.
The EX-L Res doesn't come with the navigation system but adds a 7-inch screen to the ceiling for the backseat. It's a relatively small screen, and the DVD system eats into the center console's generous cargo space. As a parent who is constantly taking an iPad along on road trips, I find built-in systems like this less useful and less flexible than an affordable portable alternative.
Safety
The 2012 Honda CR-V has not yet been tested by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration or the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.
The CR-V comes with standard front seat-mounted side airbags and side curtain airbags for both rows of seats. Antilock brakes and an electronic stability system are also standard, as is required of all 2012 models.
CR-V in the Market
The current CR-V is one of the best-selling vehicles in the country. The 2012 is an improvement in every way, and if the company can keep prices from escalating, it's sure to continue its successful run.
11-16-2011, 05:33 PM
#623
The sizzle in the Steak
Better than the previous gen....but miles behind the competition.
Nothing innovative to see here, and far short of class leading on many fronts.
When compared to the competition....Escape, Sportage,...etc, only the Honda faithful will still buy the CRV.
Nothing innovative to see here, and far short of class leading on many fronts.
When compared to the competition....Escape, Sportage,...etc, only the Honda faithful will still buy the CRV.
11-16-2011, 05:58 PM
#624
Safety Car
Cnet
With 29 models in the crossover segment, the competition between vehicles is fierce. To make the 2012 Honda CRV stand out from the crowd, Honda has refined its best-selling SUV and dubbed it the "Super CR-V." But does the 4th generation of the crossover live up to its new moniker?
When you're selling a couple hundred thousand units of a crossover, it's a tough job trying to be all things to all people. Honda built an improved version of a best-selling vehicle that will impress a broad range of consumers, but it doesn't mess with its tried-and true formula.
What makes the 2012 model "super" is its ability to wear a lot of hats. The CR-V provides the efficiency of a car and the functionality of a minivan in the SUV packaging that is popular with buyers these days, says Honda. The result is a utilitarian, but sophisticated, compact SUV with style and versatility that will make the CR-V a good option for buyers looking for jack-of-all trades vehicle.
Updated styling
Honda sexed up the 2012 CR-V exterior with a bigger grilles, a more sculpted body that accentuates the wheels, and 3-dimensional vertical taillights. It also trimmed its dimensions a little. Although the width is the same, it's almost an inch shorter and an inch lower than the previous generation, but the interior volume has slightly increased.
Inside the vehicle, the crossover offers all the creature comforts and conveniences the savvy consumer has come to expect in a car these days, but no one will confuse the CR-V for a luxury vehicle.
Wider use of soft-touchpoints on the dash and doors make the vehicle feel refined, but there is no burled wood veneer--real or otherwise--which makes it seem modern and understated. The console has been designed to offer more convenient storage spaces, such as water-bottle holders and a well that can fit a small purse, but its low-profile design doesn't won't intrude on your personal space or create a huge gulf between the driver and passenger.
Standard Pandora integration and audio text messages
Following other competitors' lead, Honda has made a few tech features standard equipment on the CR-V. The CR-V LX base model now includes Bluetooth connectivity for hands-free calling, and all vehicles now include a rear-view camera and in-dash display to help visibility while in reverse. The color screen is also used to display audio information, fuel economy, and time.
Pandora application integration is also a standard feature, along with read-out-loud text message capability. However, full Pandora integration is only available for iPhone, and the text messaging technology works only on phones that include the Bluetooth MAP profile, which is limited to a handful of BlackBerry and Droid smartphones at this time. The voice-control navigation option is the same unit the manufacturer offers across its lineup, but Honda indicated that a significant overhaul of the system will be announced in the near future.
Upgrade to the EX trim level, and consumers will get a several cosmetic changes, such as color door handles and mirrors, and suedelike seat material. The EX-L trim adds leather seats, heated front passenger seats, and audio features. The navigation system is available at this trim level, as is the optional rear entertainment system. But interestingly, you can opt for either the navigation system or the entertainment system, but for some reason, not both.
The navigation and entertainment limitation could influence buyers looking for a family hauler, but it shouldn't be enough to make families cross the CR-V off the shopping list. Honda seems to be paying attention to just how big and bulky baby gear has become, and the CR-V's design offers features to accommodate all of it nicely.
More convenient cargo space
The 2012 Honda CR-V's cargo floor is an inch lower than the previous generation's, which makes it easier to load groceries, luggage, and strollers. It also adds an extra 1.5 cubic inches of cargo capacity behind the 2nd row where families need it most. However, with the 2nd row seats folded flat, the cargo capacity is reduced from 72.9 cubic feet to 70.9 cubic feet. Buyers probably won't notice that reduction because, thanks to the new fold-flat feature, the cargo floor is 5 inches longer than the previous model, making the space more versatile.
That drop in cargo capacity is due to Honda's new 60/40-split "1 touch fold-down" rear seat feature, which is a little misleading because 1st you'll need to pull a strap that unlocks the foldable headrests, making it a 2-step process. But to Honda, the system is 1-touch because when you pull the lever to fold the seats, the headrests automatically fold down, 2nd row seat cushions flip up, and the seat backs fold almost completely flat. As an interesting side effect of this innovative system, you'll easily be able to vacuum up the crumbs, lint and loose change that collect under the seats.
Although Honda says it aimed to offer the functionality of a minivan, the CR-V doesn't offer a third-row option. A 2-row 5-seater is the only seating configuration. For families looking for a carpool vehicle, Honda is hoping to move shoppers over to Odyssey or Pilot.
More power, better fuel economy
Unlike several other competitors, Honda offers only 1 power-train option for the CR-V: a 2.4-liter engine paired with a 5-speed automatic transmission. But it managed to increase horsepower from 180 to 185 while improving fuel economy. The FWD model will achieve 23 mpg in the city and 31 mpg on the highway. The AWD models get 22 mpg in the city and 30 on the highway.
These aren't hybrid numbers--but it's impressive that the CRV is offering sedanlike fuel economy in a SUV. For comparison's sake, the 2012 Toyota Rav4 achieves 22 city/28 mpg on FWD models and 21 city/27 mpg 4WD models, while Ford's Escape offers only 21/23 (6-speed automatic).
To appeal to fuel misers, the CR-V also offers standard Eco Assist and Econ mode. The setting will attempt to help drivers save fuel by reducing driving variability and prioritize energy settings. It also offers driver feedback, and will change guidelines around the instrument cluster from white to green.
But during the short test-drive event held for journalists, that coaching was easier said than done--the lines never budged from white. The CR-V offered a smooth yet nimble ride for a crossover, but it definitely won't feel like you're driving a sedan. At times the steering felt a little loose, and the ride a little bouncy--but again, it's a crossover and not a car. Models equipped with real-time AWD with Intelligent Control System should help the vehicle handle a little better around corners, giving it a more stable feel and ride.
Pricing wasn't revealed, but the manufacturer indicated that it would range from $21,000-$30,000. The vehicle is expected to go on sale December 15.
11-16-2011, 06:13 PM
#626
The sizzle in the Steak
Poor bastard had to open the hatch with his hands....should have bought an Escape
11-16-2011, 06:15 PM
#627
Safety Car
AutoBlog
The 4th generation Honda CR-V has flown under the radar so far, but given that the hot-selling crossover hits dealers on December 15, the Los Angeles Auto Show is as good an opportunity as any for Honda to play show-and-tell. The 2012 CR-V receives all-new sheetmetal, and the result is a more refined look that should give Honda fans some hope for the future. The interior has also been greatly improved, with a more contemporary layout, quick-stow rear seats and gobs of storage, though the top of the instrument panel and door caps are still rendered in hard plastic.
Power comes from Honda's faithful 2.4-liver i-VTEC 4-cylinder, with 185 horsepower and 163 pound-feet of torque – thats 5 more horsepower and 2 additional lb-ft compared to the outgoing CR-V. The transmission continues to be Honda's tried and true 5-speed automatic, which is a bit of a disappointment given the competition's flurry of next-generation gearboxes offering more ratios. Still, Honda promises very competitive fuel economy numbers of 31 miles per gallon on the highway and 23 mpg in the city for the front-wheel drive model. The all-wheel drive variant should deliver an estimated 22 mpg in the city and 30 mpg on the highway.
Honda also pledges to offer more bang for the buck for customers with a range of new standard features. The 2012 CR-V will include standard Bluetooth HandsFreeLink, a multi-angle rearview camera and a full-color information display. The CR-V will also receive SMS text messaging capability, which reads incoming text messages over the audio system.
Honda is also very confident that the CR-V will perform extremely well in safety testing, as the automaker proclaimed during its press conference that this new model will achieve IIHS Top Safety Pick status and net a 5-Star rating from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Hit the jump to read over the official press release, but check out our photos first.
11-16-2011, 06:33 PM
#628
Senior Moderator
TOV review mentions very good interior quality which is nice to hear.
But also mentions way too tall gearing on the 5AT which is noticeable when more power is needed for passing etc....No doubt the that tall gearing also helped with those FE numbers. Time for a 6 speed.
But also mentions way too tall gearing on the 5AT which is noticeable when more power is needed for passing etc....No doubt the that tall gearing also helped with those FE numbers. Time for a 6 speed.
11-16-2011, 06:35 PM
#630
Three Wheelin'
It's a shame the text msg function is compatible with iPhones only... considering that Androids now dominate the market. Some forethought should have gone into that...
11-16-2011, 06:37 PM
#631
The sizzle in the Steak
They have been waaaaay behind the curve on this for quite some time.
11-16-2011, 09:41 PM
#632
shame they got rid of the dual glove compartment, i love that little spot in mine.
and the rear shelf is gone too - which is one of the best thing about the CR-V's utility.
and the rear shelf is gone too - which is one of the best thing about the CR-V's utility.
11-16-2011, 10:40 PM
#633
Safety Car
BloomBerg
Editor's Rating: ****
The Good: Improved mileage, looks, and interior; top safety rating; more standard equipment.
The Bad: Still only comes with a small, 4-cylinder engine and 5-speed automatic.
The Bottom Line: Honda loyalists will love the new CR-V; others should check out the new Ford Escape and Toyota RAV4 before buying.
Make: Honda
Model: CR-V
Model Year: 2012
Body Type: Four-door, five-passenger
Price Class: Mid-Range
Product Name: Honda CR-V
The Good: Improved mileage, looks, and interior; top safety rating; more standard equipment.
The Bad: Still only comes with a small, 4-cylinder engine and 5-speed automatic.
The Bottom Line: Honda loyalists will love the new CR-V; others should check out the new Ford Escape and Toyota RAV4 before buying.
Make: Honda
Model: CR-V
Model Year: 2012
Body Type: Four-door, five-passenger
Price Class: Mid-Range
Product Name: Honda CR-V
Up Front
You have to wonder how long Honda (HMC) can keep riding on its laurels. Each time the company redesigns 1 of its top-selling models, you have the feeling that designers were on the defensive, making as few changes as they could get away with just to avoid falling behind faster-moving rivals. That’s what Honda did with the new Civic, earning lukewarm reviews and prompting Consumer Reports to drop the model from its Recommended list. Now there are reports that Honda will refresh the Civic again for 2013 to address some of the criticisms. (The company has no comment.)
I have the same feeling about Honda’s redesign of its popular CR-V compact SUV as I did about the new Civic: It isn’t quite bold enough. Honda loyalists will love the new model. But the 2012 CR-V, which is due out Dec. 15, comes up short in some respects, especially if you don’t exactly fit the middle-of-the-road buyer profile Honda is aiming at. My advice is to wait and check out the redesigned 2012 Toyota Toyota (TM) RAV4 (due out Dec. 20) and the upcoming 2013 Ford (F) Escape (due out next spring) before buying a CR-V. The Escape has already overtaken the CR-V as the top-selling SUV in America this year, and the new Escape promises to be much better than the current 1.
To be sure, the new CR-V is an improvement over the old 1, too. It’s better-looking, quieter, and has a nicer interior, slightly more luggage space, more standard equipment, and a better all-wheel-drive system than the previous model’s. Fuel economy is up, too. With front-wheel drive, the 2012 CR-V is rated at 23 miles per gallon in the city, 31 on the highway, and 26 on average (2 mpg more than the outgoing CR-V). With all-wheel drive, it’s rated at 22/30/25 (also up 2 mpg).
However, the new CR-V shares some of the weaknesses of the previous model. Notably, it only comes with one engine, a 2.4-liter, 185-horsepower 4-cylinder engine. That’s an increase of a mere 5 hp, and the engine still provides barely adequate oomph.
The RAV4 is available with a V6 that makes it as quick as some sport coupes. The 2013 Escape will be offered with three engine choices, a basic 2.5-liter 4-banger and 2 turbocharged 4-cylinder versions of the company’s marvelous EcoBoost engine, 1 a 1.6-liter and the other a 2.0-liter. With the latter EcoBoost engine, the new Escape also promises to be much quicker than the Honda.
With the smaller EcoBoost engine, Ford says, the new Escape will beat the fuel economy of competitors, including the CR-V. Indeed, that version of the Escape is expected to be so efficient that it’s replacing the Escape Hybrid for 2013. A version of General Motors’ (GM) Chevy Equinox already matches the CR-V, getting 32 mpg on the highway and 26 mpg on average.
1 reason the CR-V isn’t the clear fuel economy leader, I suspect, is that Honda skimped on technology. The company decided to stick with a 5-speed automatic as the only choice of transmission, while Chevy, Ford, Hyundai and Kia have all moved to more efficient 6-speed automatics (the Escape, Hyundai Tucson, and Kia Sorento also are available with a stick shift). Honda also didn’t go with more efficient direct fuel injection in the new CR-V’s engine, as Ford has done in its EcoBoost engines.
Pricing hasn’t been announced yet but Honda says the new CR-V will continue to sell in the same $21,000-to-$30,000 range as the previous model, which means it will probably continue to be slightly more expensive than its competitors. (Keeping the price under 30 grand is one reason you can get a new CR-V with a rear-seat entertainment system or a navigation system—but not with both.)
Safety remains a strong selling point: Honda expects the new CR-V to earn top five-star government safety ratings and to be a Top Safety Pick of the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. Standard gear includes stability control, braking assist, and front-side and head-protecting side curtain air bags.
The CR-V has continued to sell well, despite weather-related disruptions in Asia. U.S. sales of the CR-V were up 11.1%, to 180,361, in the 1st 10 months of this year compared with the same period last year. However, the Ford Escape’s sales soared 31.4%, to 206,896, during the 1st 10 months of this year. Other rivals also are gaining ground on the CR-V: Chevy Equinox sales were up 43.2%, to 160,143, and Kia Sorento sales jumped 22.7%, to 109,903, through October.
Toyota has been the big loser: RAV4 sales fell 24.3%, to 106,800, during the 1st 10 months of this year. But the new CR-V could suffer, too, if consumers don’t cotton to the redesign and the RAV4 makes a comeback.
Behind the Wheel
The CR-V has never been much fun to drive. When you punch the gas to, say, accelerate onto a freeway, the engine really strains and fuel economy plunges. Of course, the same is true of rival models powered by the base engine, but you also sometimes have the choice of a more powerful engine if you want one.
In the test drives I did at a Honda press event, I wasn’t able to time the 2012 model, but I’d guess it accelerates from 0 to 60 about as slowly as the outgoing CR-V—in about 10 seconds. With 6-cylinder power, the current RAV4 jumps from 0 to 60 in about 6.5 seconds. The 2013 Ford Escape may offer similar quickness when powered by the 2.0-liter EcoBoost engine.
The CR-V’s new motion-adaptive power steering system doesn’t provide much feedback to the driver, but it’s great for maneuvering in tight spaces. Honda also has upgraded the CR-V’s all-wheel drive to an electronically controlled system designed to respond instantly to even slight wheel slippage. The suspension has been softened and made more car-like, too.
A feature I really like is Eco Assist. You push a button on the dash and the vehicle goes into a fuel-saving mode that doesn’t seem to affect acceleration much. Numerous readouts help the driver conserve gas. Among other things, a ring around the right side of the speedometer glows green when you’re driving efficiently. I found I could easily achieve the CR-V’s rated mileage.
The CR-V’s cabin feels more upscale than before. The center stack is nicer-looking, and attractive leather upholstery continues to be offered on the high-end trim levels. However, there’s still too much hard plastic on the dash and doors, and there are too many seams in the dash, as if it were cobbled together from pieces. The dash in the new Ford Focus, for 1, is less busy-looking and more attractive.
Bluetooth connectivity is standard on the new CR-V, as are both a Pandora Internet radio interface and SMS text-messaging. A backup camera and hands-free phone capability also now come standard.
Luggage space behind the CR-V’s rear seats is up 1.5 cu. ft., to a voluminous 37.2 cu. ft., expanding to 70.9 cu. ft. with the rear seats folded down. One of the CR-V’s handiest new features allows the rear seats to fold down nearly (but not quite) flat in a 60/40 pattern at the flick of a lever. There had been some speculation in the automotive press that Honda would offer a 3rd-row seat in the CR-V, to match the one offered in the RAV4, but that didn’t happen.
Buy It or Bag It?
The CR-V remains an excellent vehicle. Honda loyalists who simply go out and buy 1 will be happy with their decision. However, the Kia Sorento is cheaper, and the new Escape and RAV4 offer options the Honda doesn’t. In short, like the Civic, the CR-V is no longer the clear top choice in its segment.
11-16-2011, 11:46 PM
#634
^ Much better review than the others. I like that the author dares to point out the CR-V's deficiencies and mentions other CUVs worth considering.
11-17-2011, 01:24 AM
#636
No mention of width, so maybe the same?
But from post #620 above
But from post #620 above
It is now shorter by 0.8 inches, but still rides on the same wheelbase (103.1). It’s less tall by 1.0-inch, but now has an expanded interior space with best-in-class cargo capacity. Improved from 35.7 to 37.2 cu-ft., it was 56.3 inches deep; it now stretches to 61.4-inches. Although not perfectly flat, the rear seats fold forward for greatly expanded room for a Costco run.
11-17-2011, 04:58 AM
#637
On Honda news no mention about European launch of the CR-V... only US the 15th of December...
The japan-Honda site doesn't show the new CR-V nor the EU ones...
I think (and hope) it will be more upscale in our countries (start-stop system... bi xenon lights... maybe engine? 201 hp as they said before...).
The japan-Honda site doesn't show the new CR-V nor the EU ones...
I think (and hope) it will be more upscale in our countries (start-stop system... bi xenon lights... maybe engine? 201 hp as they said before...).
11-17-2011, 05:04 AM
#638
Autocar first drive US new CR-V
What is it?
The original Honda CR-V invented the compact crossover 16 years ago. Now, it’s back with a fourth-generation hitting U.S. showrooms before year-end, and due to follow on this side of the Atlantic next year.
Few models are more eagerly anticipated. The segment is among the market’s fastest-growing, but the Honda CR-V is also a critical product for the manufacturer which took a critical drubbing for the latest U.S. version of its mainstay Civic – and which has struggled to maintain momentum as the result of production cuts caused by the March 11 Japanese earthquake and tsunami.
What’s it like?
Honda can crow about the 2012 CR-V’s excellent use of space, front and rear with lots of useful storage nooks. Then there are the elegant new 1-touch fold-down rear seats.
On the downside, the interior mimics the latest Civic with too much hard plastic that suggests over-zealous cost-cutting. The exterior is reasonably attractive – from most angles – though the back of the greenhouse is a bit awkward.
The 2.4-litre inline-four engine is smooth and responsive, delivering excellent fuel economy for a compact crossover, even the all-wheel-drive model reaching 30mpg (US) on the motorway.
But Honda seems to have taken a ‘good enough’ approach, opting for port fuel injection where the competition offers direct injection, and a 5-speed gearbox where 6, 7, even 8-speeds are becoming the norm. The maker insists it doesn’t need to spend the extra money to top the rest but what happened to the Honda that once led the world in powertrain innovation
Our single biggest complaint covers the Honda CR-V’s new electric power steering system. It may save fuel but it is disconnected from the road and requires too much sawing as you work your way around the corners. Too bad, as the overall ride is reasonably pleasant with relatively little body roll.
The CR-V is one of Honda’s most consistent models, with few variations between US and European models – unlike Civic, which is completely different. However, there could still be differences when the car appears on this side of the Atlantic, particularly to the suspension and steering settings.
Should I buy one?
Current owners will likely appreciate the functionality and efficiency but the 2012 Honda CR-V will face a tough challenge regaining its sales lead from competitors like the equally all-new Ford Escape (to be sold as the Kuga in Europe).
11-17-2011, 07:03 AM
#639
Safety Car
Chronicle Herald
When it finally starts rolling off the Ontario assembly and into dealers across the country in January, the 2012 Honda CR-V will have suffered an unexpectedly lengthy gestation period. It has been delayed by parts shortages due to the tragic earthquake and tsunami in Japan last March and record deadly floods in Thailand last month
While excruciating for Honda dealers and fans, the wait will have been worth it for consumers. Virtually every aspect of the 4th-generation CR-V has been upgraded. It is good timing as the compact SUV segment that was getting underway when the first CR-V arrived in 1997 is now the 2nd biggest in the country after compact cars.
Truck sales now account for more than 57% of the market, with compact SUVs making up 30% of that, having grown 50% in the past 5 years!
Every major volume manufacturer has a player in this game, many of them new within recent months. The good news is the new CR-V can stand toe-to-toe with any of them thanks to clever packaging, aggressive pricing and intelligent engineering. The goal from the 1st day of development was 3 pronged: the feeling and efficiency of a car, the functionality of a minivan and the confidence of an SUV. The resulting package is slightly shorter and lower, lighter and offers more space, performance and fuel efficiency.
The 2012 CR-V is new from bumper-to-bumper. The engine is the only significant component carried over from the outgoing model but it has been extensively updated.
The driver sits taller, facing an entirely new instrument panel. The cargo area is the largest in the segment with a lower floor and impressive depth below the window line. Bluetooth with streaming audio and text-messaging capability and a rear view camera are standard and while prices have not been locked in this far in advance of full production, Honda says it will hold to 2011 model year pricing despite the addition of $1,500 to $2,500 worth of new equipment or features dependent on trim level.
The exterior styling is similar to, but an advance on, the current CR-V. The biggest changes evident appear at the front and rear. The interior bears no resemblance to the old model other than the steering wheel is in the front left position — and that wheel is now populated with controls for various audio and other functions, even on the least expensive model. The dash is divided into Driving and Information ‘interfaces’ or zones. The driver gets all the necessary information and controls and both he and the passenger have access to everything else, including the now standard information screen, which will display text messages when a smart phone is connected. A rear view camera with a choice or three viewing angles and expanded driver side mirror are also included on all rim levels.
The console has a number of clever touches and more than ample storage inside and alongside. The second row seats also showcase some clever thinking. Tug on a handle in the cargo area or a strap at the base of the seat and the head restraint and seat back fold and the seat bottom flips forward and the whole thing lies down with no further intervention or effort. The rear seat back is split 60/40 and the cargo area is an impressive 589 litres with the 2nd row seats in use.
Internal friction in the 2.4-litre 4 cylinder engine has been reduced by 5.4%, this and other changes have put 5 more horses in the corral. Reduced weight, attention to aerodynamics, especially beneath the relatively tall vehicle, and a myriad of other detail have resulted in mileage ratings of 9.2 litres/100 km in the city and 6.6 on the highway reductions of 12% and 8.9% respectively.
A new Real-Time AWD system, weighing 17% less and benefitting from 59% less drag, has been developed. Whereas the old 1 waited for the front wheels to slip before transferring power to the rear, the new version automatically sends some power to the rear every time the CR-V starts off from rest — up to 100% if necessary. When it reaches cruising speed all power is sent to the front wheels for maximum fuel efficiency and stability. It also works in concert with the standard electronic stability control system to minimize under-steer and over-steer in the corners
The CR-V is equipped with a ‘training’ system called ECON, which changes the instrument panel lighting from white to green when the driver is operating in a fuel efficient manner. There is also an ‘eco’ button to the left of the steering wheel which softens throttle response and transmission operation for u to 10% more mileage lights change from white to green when driving efficiently.
The rear suspension had been upgraded, bending rigidity increased by 7% and torsional rigidity by 9%. Engine and road noise have been considerably improved as was clearly evident in back-to-back drives over a variety of surfaces with the new and existing models. The only complaint after this 1st drive of a few hundred kilometres was a great deal of reflection from the top of the instrument panel in the more steeply sloped windshield of the new CR-V.
The 2012 Honda CR-V will be available in LS, EX, EX-L and Touring trim, the latter replacing the EX-L with leather offered previously. A five-speed automatic transmission and hill start control are standard on all models and the new all-wheel-drive system on EX-L and Touring models. AWD will be available on the LX and EX models.
Standard equipment on all trims includes: heated seats, ABS, ESC, 4-wheel disc brakes, heated power mirrors, Bluetooth, compass, cruise control, tilt and telescope steering wheel, outside temperature indicator, power locks and windows, remote keyless entry, USB jack, 5-inch-Imev display, and steering wheel controls for audio and a rear view camera
The LX trim has $2,500 more content than the current model, the EX $1,900, EX-L $1,750 and the Touring $1,500 more. Prices will cover the $25,00-$35,000 range.
Parts shortages tough on Honda
Beset by one hiccup after another, the new 2012 Honda CR-V appears set to hit dealers in January.
Originally scheduled for release this fall, the 4th-generation of what might have been the original compact SUV was 1st delayed by the tragic earthquake and subsequent tsunami in March that shut down the facilities of many suppliers in Japan.
That same earthquake also caused considerable damage to the company’s R&D headquarters in Tochigi.
Working at a fevered pace, Honda and the suppliers managed to get the supply chain back intact in record time. Production of many Hondas was getting back to normal, including the new 2012 Civic in Alliston, Ontario.
The same facility was ramping up for the new CR-V when tragedy struck again, this time in Thailand last month where massive flooding, the worst in 50 years, literally put out of business facilities producing electronic components used in every single Honda and Accord product built around the world, as well as those of many other companies.
That same flooding also shut down production of some Honda motorcycles and small power equipment. By Nov. 2, Honda production around the world was down by 50%.
It was not a case of cleaning up and resuming production, these plants were completely submerged and are not expected to be back in operation for many months if not years. Honda couldn’t wait that long — dealers were already crying for more Civics and can’t wait for the new CR-V. New suppliers with sufficient capacity and quality were identified and located, Civic output is nearing normal and CR-V production is scheduled to begin in January with deliveries to dealers to follow immediately.
Jerry Chenkin, executive vice-president of Honda Canada, says it has been a "very trying year," a "perfect storm" of sorts with production of its 2 best-selling vehicles severely restricted just as new models were being introduced "by terrible events that were out of our control."
The Civic has been the best-selling car in Canada for more than 12 years and the CR-V continuously in contention for runner-up honours in the 2nd biggest segment of the Canadian market — compact SUVs. Honda has sold more than 5 million CR-Vs, 260,000 of them in Canada.
Last year saw record sales of 25,000 and this year appears set to outpace even that level — without the new model and dependent upon the supplier issue.
The CR-V is sold in 160 countries, but those sold in Canada are produced exclusively in Ontario. The Ontario plant will add 400 additional jobs when full production of the Civic from Plant One and CR-V from Plant 2 get underway.
70% of all Hondas sold in Canada are built in Canada and 94% of all Honda and Acura products sold here are built in North America.
The parts shortages have been especially tough on Honda and the Ontario plant, which celebrates its 25th anniversary this year after producing in excess of 5.4 million vehicles, about 80% of them exported from Canada.
