Honda: Civic News
#3481
▒JDM ¥ KING▒
#3482
▒JDM ¥ KING▒
One more "exclusive" for ya'll there.
#3483
Is the wing same height as the roof?
#3485
^^
LOL
Too much alike, thoughts
LOL
Too much alike, thoughts
#3486
Ex-OEM King
#3488
#3489
Team Owner
Just because it's on the street here doesn't mean it's going to be sold here. I am sincerely hoping it is, but that photo is no guarantee.
#3490
Senior Moderator
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#3491
Senior Moderator
Why??? Because Honda HATES US.
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#3492
Senior Moderator
Confirmed to make a showing at Geneva later this year. Here's the teaser video:
Source: Honda Confirms Production Civic Type R For 2015 Geneva Motor Show: Video
Source: Honda Confirms Production Civic Type R For 2015 Geneva Motor Show: Video
#3493
Team Owner
Redline appears to begin at 7000rpm, if you pause the video just right. Nice, but definitely not the 8200/8400rpm redline of days past. Stupid conservative honda!
#3494
Suzuka Master
I'm trying to as optimistic as possible here. Maybe it's a digital redline that you see in supercars that moves higher once the car warm ups
#3495
Team Owner
I highly doubt it. Why would you rev a cold engine to 7000? Why would Honda not have it warmed up all the way for a teaser vid?
The NSX 2.0 has a 7000rpm redline also.
The NSX 2.0 has a 7000rpm redline also.
#3496
Senior Moderator
but with the addition of a turbo we really don't need to worry about the redline but rather where the power is made
#3498
Team Owner
Likely with a turbo, you'll no longer have to rev the shit out of the car to get power out of it.
#3499
Azine Jabroni
I really hope this non-existant version the NJ dealership is getting has the same headlights as the concept. Next to Audi, they may be the best looking on the market.
#3502
Ex-OEM King
#3503
Team Owner
Actually, now that I think about it, that's not necessarily true. It will all depend on pricing as well. Sure, if the civic puts out 290hp and FWD, it won't compete with the RS, but if it's 7k cheaper, where's the comparison? And if the CTR does put down those kinds of numbers, it'll be faster than the Focus ST. Being situated between the ST and RS isn't a bad thing. Not everyone can always be #1
Last edited by TacoBello; 01-30-2015 at 11:10 AM.
#3504
Itz JDM y0!
CTR and the Focus RS aren't even in the same league. CTR will be a mid 20k car and the RS will be a mid 30k car. Comparing CTR and RS is like comparing a ST to RS.
Last edited by VR1; 01-30-2015 at 11:51 AM.
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What, you mean 1.6L, naturally aspirated, DOHC engines aren't popular anymore? :jaw drops:
Actually, now that I think about it, that's not necessarily true. It will all depend on pricing as well. Sure, if the civic puts out 290hp and FWD, it won't compete with the RS, but if it's 7k cheaper, where's the comparison? And if the CTR does put down those kinds of numbers, it'll be faster than the Focus ST. Being situated between the ST and RS isn't a bad thing. Not everyone can always be #1
Actually, now that I think about it, that's not necessarily true. It will all depend on pricing as well. Sure, if the civic puts out 290hp and FWD, it won't compete with the RS, but if it's 7k cheaper, where's the comparison? And if the CTR does put down those kinds of numbers, it'll be faster than the Focus ST. Being situated between the ST and RS isn't a bad thing. Not everyone can always be #1
Civic Si:
Zero to 60 mph: 6.1 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 15.7 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.4 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 8.8 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 8.4 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.7 sec @ 97 mph
2012 Honda Civic Si Sedan Instrumented Test ? Review ? Car and Driver
Focus ST:
Zero to 60 mph: 6.1 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 16.3 sec
Zero to 120 mph: 26.8 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 6.9 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 8.7 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 6.7 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.7 sec @ 96 mph
2014 Ford Focus ST Long-Term Road Test Wrap-Up ? Review ? Car and Driver
(Note: Euro-spec Focus ST is faster: 2015 Volkswagen GTI vs. 2013 Ford Focus ST: Final Scoring, Performance Data, and Complete Specs)
The previous CTR (the FD2 at least) with 220hp was already miles faster than the Civic Si. And this new CTR is way more powerful than before. I don't think there's much doubt that the CTR would be faster a Focus ST.
It will be interesting to see what the RS is like though. If it's a 350hp AWD car, then there's not much competition hahaha...
#3506
Team Owner
Yeah, see, the ST sounds awesome on paper, but seems to really drop the ball in actual performance. Sadly, most people only ever consider what's on paper though. To throw a wrench into the mix, I wonder where the Si and ST were tested- elevation may hurt the ST more than the Si.
And to be honest, even if the RS is faster than the CTR, zero fucks would be given. I would whole heartedly jump on the CTR before I'd consider buying a Ford. Ford has done a lot of brand reimaging, but from what I hear from people I know who are mechanics at ford dealerships, they say not all that much has changed in terms of reliability. Plus, I can only imagine how friggin' awesome an I4, VTEC turbo would be
And to be honest, even if the RS is faster than the CTR, zero fucks would be given. I would whole heartedly jump on the CTR before I'd consider buying a Ford. Ford has done a lot of brand reimaging, but from what I hear from people I know who are mechanics at ford dealerships, they say not all that much has changed in terms of reliability. Plus, I can only imagine how friggin' awesome an I4, VTEC turbo would be
#3507
Team Owner
The Type R was ALWAYS an expensive car. That's why there was so few of them and why they hold their value so well, even now.
#3509
Azine Jabroni
#3510
Team Owner
Again, comparing the ST to the Si, the ST has a good 65-70hp more than the Si, yet it's not exactly faster. Honda has always been known as having low numbers on paper, but in the real world they were a blast to drive and could keep up with competitors.
#3511
Team Owner
#3512
Azine Jabroni
"Without racing there is no Honda"
Modern Honda has thrown that out the window.
#3513
Ex-OEM King
What, you mean 1.6L, naturally aspirated, DOHC engines aren't popular anymore? :jaw drops:
Actually, now that I think about it, that's not necessarily true. It will all depend on pricing as well. Sure, if the civic puts out 290hp and FWD, it won't compete with the RS, but if it's 7k cheaper, where's the comparison? And if the CTR does put down those kinds of numbers, it'll be faster than the Focus ST. Being situated between the ST and RS isn't a bad thing. Not everyone can always be #1
Actually, now that I think about it, that's not necessarily true. It will all depend on pricing as well. Sure, if the civic puts out 290hp and FWD, it won't compete with the RS, but if it's 7k cheaper, where's the comparison? And if the CTR does put down those kinds of numbers, it'll be faster than the Focus ST. Being situated between the ST and RS isn't a bad thing. Not everyone can always be #1
also cubs suck.
#3514
Azine Jabroni
Also, I didn't say anything too complicated.
#3516
Azine Jabroni
#3517
Ex-OEM King
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Yeah, see, the ST sounds awesome on paper, but seems to really drop the ball in actual performance. Sadly, most people only ever consider what's on paper though. To throw a wrench into the mix, I wonder where the Si and ST were tested- elevation may hurt the ST more than the Si.
And to be honest, even if the RS is faster than the CTR, zero fucks would be given. I would whole heartedly jump on the CTR before I'd consider buying a Ford. Ford has done a lot of brand reimaging, but from what I hear from people I know who are mechanics at ford dealerships, they say not all that much has changed in terms of reliability. Plus, I can only imagine how friggin' awesome an I4, VTEC turbo would be
And to be honest, even if the RS is faster than the CTR, zero fucks would be given. I would whole heartedly jump on the CTR before I'd consider buying a Ford. Ford has done a lot of brand reimaging, but from what I hear from people I know who are mechanics at ford dealerships, they say not all that much has changed in terms of reliability. Plus, I can only imagine how friggin' awesome an I4, VTEC turbo would be
With that said, the road tests by Car and Driver, MotorTrend, etc are all weather and elevation corrected for consistency.
#3519
Senior Moderator
Comon Honda, give us a 300hp AWD fun car.
#3520
Senior Moderator
I DARE you!