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Old 03-13-2016, 01:30 PM
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What I don't like is the tail light portion on the trunk/hatch. If that was photoshopped out, I'm sure the rear would look a lot better.

I work down the street from a Honda dealer and see the new Civic multiple times daily. It's grown on me a lot, but that is the only part that looks off IMO.
I think they needed to continue the light all the way across the rear hatch.



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Like this?

I think it still needs more lights, to be honest.


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I really like the Civic, after seeing it in person. WTF is wrong with me?
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I really like the Civic, after seeing it in person. WTF is wrong with me?
I think most people here feel that way.

I don't care so much about the coupe. But the sedan blows me away every time I see it.

Honda finally nailed it after so many years of blah.

And its proof that those of us who have bagged on honda/acura don't hate for pure hate. When they give us something such as this, we can get excited.

I'm actually hoping my in-laws get one in a month or two when their optima lease ends.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I really like the Civic, after seeing it in person. WTF is wrong with me?
Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I think most people here feel that way.

I don't care so much about the coupe. But the sedan blows me away every time I see it.

Honda finally nailed it after so many years of blah.

And its proof that those of us who have bagged on honda/acura don't hate for pure hate. When they give us something such as this, we can get excited.

I'm actually hoping my in-laws get one in a month or two when their optima lease ends.
Agreed, New Civic sedan & Accord Sport sedan
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Accord sport pisses me off. Needs a v6 with the 6mt
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Accord Sport is so damn nice looking.
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I've seem a few 2016 civic's on the road and I will say I am impressed. Curious how it rides and pulls with the 1.5 turbo.
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I've seem a few 2016 civic's on the road and I will say I am impressed. Curious how it rides and pulls with the 1.5 turbo.
I've only seen a couple & have been tempted to stop in to drive one.
Wish the 6MT were available in more than the LX though.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
I've only seen a couple & have been tempted to stop in to drive one.
Wish the 6MT were available in more than the LX though.
Isn't that the plan down the road? I thought I read somewhere that the 6MT just wasn't ready yet with the 1.5T.
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Isn't that the plan down the road? I thought I read somewhere that the 6MT just wasn't ready yet with the 1.5T.
No idea, personally. I wouldn't doubt it, though. Maybe in the new Si?
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Originally Posted by Jakes_tl
I've seem a few 2016 civic's on the road and I will say I am impressed. Curious how it rides and pulls with the 1.5 turbo.
Car and Driver recorded a 1/4 mile trap speed of 94mph. That's quite respectable for a car in this class. That's higher than A3 1.8T and on par with a CLA250 that's rated at 208hp/258lbft.


My understanding is that the coupe will get the 6MT too (non Si) for 2017 MY, or even later this year.
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2017 Honda Civic Hatchback Prototype Brings Sporty, Euro Styling to North American Debut in New York - Honda News

2017 Honda Civic Hatchback Prototype Brings Sporty, Euro Styling to North American Debut in New York

Mar 22, 2016 - NEW YORK
  • New Turbo technology for manual transmissions confirmed for entire 2017 Civic lineup
  • New Civic hatchback prototype offers best look yet at Euro sport hatch-inspired compact car
  • Assertive stance and distinctive new design establishes 10th generation as the sportiest Civic ever

The next-generation Civic Hatchback, with its striking design and the promise of a sporty, European-inspired driving experience, today made its North American debut in prototype form just a day before the 2016 New York International Auto Show. American Honda Motor Co., Inc. also confirmed that it will marry the all-new 1.5-liter turbo engine to its 6-speed manual transmission for more sporty and dynamic performance. The arrival of the production 2017 Civic Hatchback later this year marks the continued rollout of the 10th-generation Civic lineup, the sportiest and most expansive family of Civics in the car's 44-year history. The Civic Sedan was recently named the 2016 North American Car of the Year, and sales of Civic are up 37 percent through the first two months of 2016.

Being built on the same world-class platform as the 10th-generation Civic Sedan, the 2017 Civic Hatchback will be defined by an unparalleled combination of sportiness, efficiency and utility, with distinctive styling and premium features that enthusiasts demand. The five-door hatchback will feature one powertrain for the U.S. market, a 1.5-liter DOHC direct-injected Turbo engine that can be mated to either a sporty CVT or a slick-shifting 6-speed manual transmission.

"The Civic Hatchback wraps the 10-generation Civic platform and five-door hatchback utility in emotional, Euro-inspired styling," said Jeff Conrad, senior vice president and general manager of the Honda Division of American Honda Motor Co., Inc. "Offered with the first application of the 1.5-liter turbo engine paired with a manual transmission, this sportiest Civic to date will attract a whole new set of enthusiasts buyers to the model and Honda brand."

The Civic Hatchback will launch later this year as the third new Civic variant, joining the 2016 Civic Sedan and Civic Coupe. The 10th-generation Civic lineup will be rounded out in 2017 with the arrival of Civic Si variants and the radical new Civic Type R.

The 2017 Civic Hatchback was developed by the joint efforts of Honda R&D teams in Europe and Japan and is expected to bring new buyers into the Honda showroom here in the U.S.

"We knew that we needed to create a striking and stand-out exterior design that challenged conventional European compact styling while staying true to the original Civic's core values," said Daisuke Tsutamori, chief exterior stylist for the 2017 Civic Hatchback Prototype. "This vehicle represents a marriage of distinctive and sporty design, rewarding driving dynamics and versatile practicality."

New larger and wider wheels and tires give a feeling of an assured stance, while the long wheelbase, short overhangs and sleek cabin area further add to the dynamic feel of the exterior. At the front of the car, a short overhang with large air intakes presents a sharp and aggressive interpretation of Honda's family face. LED headlights and daytime running lights flow from beneath the boldly sculpted hood into the muscular front wheel arches.

The sleek and swept-back body lines continue along the side of the car with a crease that incorporates front and rear door handles before culminating in the distinctive C-shaped LED rear lights. A second, lower character line extends from behind the front wheels up through the doors and meets the rear wheel arches, emphasizing the car's dynamic forward-leaning stance. At the rear, the bumper incorporates angular creases and vents, designed to echo the aggressively styled nature of the rest of the car.

The 2017 Civic Hatchback will be produced exclusively at the Honda of the UK Manufacturing (HUM) plant in Swindon.


2017 Honda Civic Hatchback Debut ? New York Press Briefing Remarks - Honda News

2017 Honda Civic Hatchback Debut – New York Press Briefing Remarks

Jeff Conrad, Senior Vice President and General Manager, Honda Division

Mar 22, 2016

Jeff Conrad:

Good afternoon and thanks to everyone joining us here today, in person or via livestream.

It was roughly a year ago that we set off on our epic 10th-generation Civic launch, right here in New York with the debut of the seriously sporty and seriously green Civic Coupe Concept.

We promised that this would be the sportiest, most sophisticated and most ambitious Civic lineup in our best-selling model's 44-year history.

And since then, we've revealed more of our Civic story, how our designers and engineers set their sights not on our mainstream competitors but on compact-class sports sedans from Europe.

Their goal, to create one truly world-class platform for all 10th-generation Civic models.

This new Civic platform is simply a cut above offering a new level of sporty and refined ride and handling a more spacious and premium-quality cabin class-leading safety and advanced new powertrains.

This includes our first-ever turbocharged engine for our U.S.-model Civic.

We launched our first epic new Civic, the 2016 Civic Sedan, last fall.

And we were honored to have Civic named the 2016 North American Car of the Year just two months ago.

More importantly, our customers have truly embraced this new Civic … with sales up an amazing 43 percent this year.

And just last week, we upped the ante on Civic sportiness and style with the launch of the all-new 2016 Civic Coupe.

Today, we're ready to share the next chapter in our Civic story.

For years, many Honda and Civic enthusiasts have looked longingly across the Atlantic to Civic models like a hatchback, and Type R that until now have been forbidden fruit.

That begins to change right now.

Because, today, we have another first for Civic in North America a 5-door hatch model.

Here, straight from its global reveal at the Geneva auto show and in its first appearance on American soil, welcome the all-new 2017 Honda Civic Hatchback Prototype!!

This new Civic Hatch continues the steady progression of new Civic models that are advancing the stylish and fun-to-drive performance of Civic.

This new Civic Hatchback takes all the goodness of the new, tenth-generation Civic platform and wraps it in emotional, Euro-inspired styling together with the added cargo and people-hauling flexibility of its five-door design.

The Civic Hatch will feature a sporty and fuel-efficient engine our 1.5-liter, 174-horsepower Turbo powerplant mated to either a sporty CVT or a 6-speed manual transmission.

And experts have been quick to note how this amazing new powertrain is delivering fun-to-drive performance and fuel economy like nothing in its class with an EPA highway rating of 42 mpg and a zero-to-60 time that matches the previous-gen Civic Si!

Inside, the new Hatchback will benefit from all the stunning upgrades we've made to the Civic cabin in terms of high-quality materials, added legroom, and leading edge technologies.

This includes our Display Audio touchscreen with Android Auto and Apple CarPlay compatibility.

I have one more piece of news that all Civic enthusiasts will be thrilled to hear and that's our announcement today that ALL of our turbocharged Civic models … Coupe, Sedan and Hatch will be available with a slick-shifting 6-speed manual starting this fall!

We said this would be our sportiest Civic ever and we meant it!

Next year, we'll be rounding out the lineup with the launch of high-performance Si variants and some more goodness from across the pond a radical new Civic Type-R based on this hatch body style.

So, our Civic story is far from complete. And we will be sharing all of the details on this new Civic Hatch as we get closer to its fall launch.

Thank you.
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That is great to hear!
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hmmmmmm.....if VW buys back my Golf....hmmmmmm
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1.5T 6MT....I'd like to know what sort of acceleration numbers it can pull off.....the 1.5T with a CVT is already pretty quick for what it is.
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1.5T 6MT....I'd like to know what sort of acceleration numbers it can pull off.....the 1.5T with a CVT is already pretty quick for what it is.
That depends if you can shift faster than the CVT...

No that is not accurate since CVT does not shift.

So that depends on if you can shift 6 times faster than no shift.
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Apparently, you can! Just look at the numbers of the Accord I4, 6MT vs CVT......
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yah that just shows the car is faster. But in reality, most of us will lose to a AT/CVT with the same car.
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Someone needs to learn to drive better
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Seeing more & more of the new Civic around here. One in ABP (Aegean Blue Pearl) looked really nice.
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They're everywhere here. Plus I live near a Honda dealer.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
yah that just shows the car is faster. But in reality, most of us will lose to a AT/CVT with the same car.
Lose to AT, yes, but CVT...I don't know man. I guess launching well in a MT can be tricky. However, when you look at those 0-30mph times in those CVT-equipped Honda's, they suggest that they don't launch really well too.

2016 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 2016 Honda Accord, 2016 Mazda 6, 2016 Toyota Camry: Final Scoring, Performance Data, and Complete Specs

When you look at the above link, you'd see how the Accord is the slowest by far for 0-30mph. But by 60mph, it's already the second quickest, and it's simply faster than everyone else after that. Also look at how its 1/4 mile trap speed is higher.


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LOL!
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LOL what. he was talking about you.
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any guesses on the Type R price? My wife's 2016 WRX is tempting me to get another hot hatch to DD for myself.
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I personally will take the RS over it.
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Thanks for the pricing info.

After how happy I was with our previous MS3, I was hoping for a Gen3. But doesn't seem to be in the cards yet.

RS is a fantastic machine. But no RS or Golf R for us.

I have another year I will keep the wagon, and then it will be replaced.
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My age just does not scream for Type R, powered by Vtec anymore.
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Everybody's priorities are different, and I respect that.

If I let my age dictate my car choices, we wouldn't have the cars we have
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
My age just does not scream for Type R, powered by Vtec anymore.
I have seen my fair share of 50+ year old women in ITRs and S2000s. Or maybe it's the same women driving them?

I know, but that is not their MO these days. Honda could make a high-revving high-ish volume sporty vehicle like an Integra Type-R of old. But people would complain it's raucous, underpowered, not enough torque, etc...

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Everybody's priorities are different, and I respect that.

If I let my age dictate my car choices, we wouldn't have the cars we have
Yup. Plus nearly all teenagers won't be able to afford the CTR new, whatever it may be. Most certainly will be around the same price if not even more than the Mugen Civic Si was, which was just at $30k almost a decade ago.

I almost bought a Mazda 6... thinking I needed the extra room, fuel economy, and simplicity for a daily. Plus my teenaged years were long ago. My commute shrank to almost nothing, and I don't want to have kids or get married, so why not get a sports car?

Thanks to some of you on here convincing me I didn't need a family sedan in my 20s. I don't regret getting my BRZ one bit.
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I daily drove a 2 seaters all my life, even after marriage, and one kid. Me and kid to school etc. Second kid is what was the end of my roadster life, and first ever 4 door...

Looking forward to the CTR.
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LOL what. he was talking about you.
No, I was talking about you and your poor driving skills, letting CVTs and autos take your ass. Psssh.

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any guesses on the Type R price? My wife's 2016 WRX is tempting me to get another hot hatch to DD for myself.
Originally Posted by oonowindoo
35k
I'm willing to bet it'll surpass 40k. Depends how you option it out though. I'm sure you can get just the car for 36-38k. If you want the aero kit, Honda sensing safety package, performance package, blah blah, it'll crack 40k.
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Lose to AT, yes, but CVT...I don't know man. I guess launching well in a MT can be tricky. However, when you look at those 0-30mph times in those CVT-equipped Honda's, they suggest that they don't launch really well too.

2016 Chevrolet Malibu vs. 2016 Honda Accord, 2016 Mazda 6, 2016 Toyota Camry: Final Scoring, Performance Data, and Complete Specs

When you look at the above link, you'd see how the Accord is the slowest by far for 0-30mph. But by 60mph, it's already the second quickest, and it's simply faster than everyone else after that. Also look at how its 1/4 mile trap speed is higher.
it is Honda aerodynamics efficiency. above 100mph. it demolish competition.
my TSX goes from 100mph to 120mph in instant.
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
it is Honda aerodynamics efficiency. above 100mph. it demolish competition.
my TSX goes from 100mph to 120mph in instant.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
My age just does not scream for Type R, powered by Vtec anymore.
Even when I was in my 20's when I had a modded car, I appreciate hot hatches but for DD it's not very practical. Not so much hey I'm in my 30's, I shouldn't drive that but more like: my priorities now that I'm in my 30's have changed and a CTR doesn't fit my needs.
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
it is Honda aerodynamics efficiency. above 100mph. it demolish competition.
my TSX goes from 100mph to 120mph in instant.
And my 5000 lb brick in the wind Explorer does it even faster!
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Even when I was in my 20's when I had a modded car, I appreciate hot hatches but for DD it's not very practical. Not so much hey I'm in my 30's, I shouldn't drive that but more like: my priorities now that I'm in my 30's have changed and a CTR doesn't fit my needs.
Focus ST is a very practical DD!


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