Honda: Civic News
#482
Looking at the body colored mirrors/door handles on these spy shots, they are obviously not the DX models. And the 16" wheels manage to still look tiny!
Can anyone tell if those are LEDs in the back lights of that white one?
Can anyone tell if those are LEDs in the back lights of that white one?
#483
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by phile
Looking at the body colored mirrors/door handles on these spy shots, they are obviously not the DX models. And the 16" wheels manage to still look tiny!
Can anyone tell if those are LEDs in the back lights of that white one?
Can anyone tell if those are LEDs in the back lights of that white one?
#484
They do have that led look, but could be the lense with hole shapes cut out, leaning towards fake. Cadillacs led lights don't light up the whole lense like this civic, the dots form rows of red light within the lense. You can see the same type of row pattern in the accord spy pics.
Think I would have liked to have seen xenon lights to go against the mazda 3.
Think I would have liked to have seen xenon lights to go against the mazda 3.
#485
Yeah, Infiniti had the same trick with the I35's rear lights.
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New Civic Si spied - - Source: Autoweek
We thought our first chance to see the next Honda Civic Si coupe would come this fall when it is expected to make its premiere at the Specialty Equipment Market Association show in Las Vegas. But our spies have captured the production-ready car a few months ahead of Honda’s schedule.
Looking much like the concept that Honda showed at the Chicago Auto Show earlier this year (AW, Feb. 21), we expect just a few minor production changes, including adding functional door handles and a huge exhaust tip.
The Si will be powered by a 200-hp VTEC four-cylinder mated to a six-speed manual transmission. Look for it in showrooms late this year.
Looking much like the concept that Honda showed at the Chicago Auto Show earlier this year (AW, Feb. 21), we expect just a few minor production changes, including adding functional door handles and a huge exhaust tip.
The Si will be powered by a 200-hp VTEC four-cylinder mated to a six-speed manual transmission. Look for it in showrooms late this year.
#489
Registered Abuser of VTEC
Originally Posted by gavriil
This looks better than the concept in my opinion. It does not look bad at all from that angle.
#493
Originally Posted by gavriil
#496
I don't like how compact it looks with that short hood which looks like it should be on the euro hatch compared to something like the tc which looks like it should almost be a midsized coupe.
#499
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#502
how handsome I am
tsx/tl'ish lights and reminds me of a scion.
Honda's serious about stomping toyota out, huh?
Looks a hell of alot nicer than this last generation of civic though. jessus christ this last one made me
even the hatch was undesireable.
-Alex
Honda's serious about stomping toyota out, huh?
Looks a hell of alot nicer than this last generation of civic though. jessus christ this last one made me
even the hatch was undesireable.
-Alex
#503
Photography Nerd
Originally Posted by dom
You feeing ok Dan?
Plus I could put the remaining money into a fun weekend car.
#504
Registered Abuser of VTEC
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
I'll probably keep the TSX for another couple years but I hardly ever have anyone in the back seats to justify a four door. With the Civic, you get the same power as the TSX but in a package that probably weighs 500lbs less so it should be a lot of fun.
Plus I could put the remaining money into a fun weekend car.
Plus I could put the remaining money into a fun weekend car.
#505
Got da Internet Goin Nutz
^They have already given said Navi will be available. For me, I could care less about leather, although it would be nice, for an econo car that will in essence be my beater I want navi and could live with cloth.
#506
Photography Nerd
Originally Posted by bl^5
^They have already given said Navi will be available. For me, I could care less about leather, although it would be nice, for an econo car that will in essence be my beater I want navi and could live with cloth.
If I bought this car the one thing I would likely do is retrofit some HIDs because I doubt it will be an option. Once you go HID you don't go back.
#507
Registered Abuser of VTEC
Originally Posted by bl^5
^They have already given said Navi will be available. For me, I could care less about leather, although it would be nice, for an econo car that will in essence be my beater I want navi and could live with cloth.
#510
Originally Posted by corey415
It seems like you will be able to get everything the mazda 3 has except for the HIDs and TPMS.
Only prob, is "everything" doesn't have exceptions. If a new Honda can't surpass the bar a Mazda has set, then imo they are indeed falling behind, cause I can't imagine Toyota letting that stand after the Tc.
As far as the Si having 200hp, above the 3's 160hp, I don't think that will be long lasting with the mps 3 on the corner will all sorts of power options available from ford/volvo/&mazda.
#511
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Honda Builds a Better Civic: Still no double wishbones but a CRX is coming in two years
MARK VAUGHN
Posted Date: 7/26/05
The new 2006 Honda Civic, due this fall, is more fun to drive than the car it replaces, our spies tell us, and there will even be a return of the racer’s favorite CRX badge in 2007. That’s not bad news, is it?
Those we spoke to who have driven the new Civic were enthusiastic about it.
“It’s an awesome car. It drives like the Integra Type R,” said one.
“This is exactly what Honda needs,” said another.
And these were performance-lovin’ guys.
Though Honda calls it an “all-new” car, a number of platform and suspension pieces either carry over or are only slightly revised.
The new Civic makes those gains without a return to double wishbones in front. The new suspension still has MacPherson struts. The rear suspension is also “revised,” but details are scarce. Expect a slightly tighter multilink setup.
Top of the engine chart is the 200-hp version of the K20 four-cylinder that will power the Civic Si and CRX. Civic Si— the most powerful Civic ever, according to Honda—will bow at the Specialty Equipment Market Association show in Las Vegas this November.
Of course, with the new SAE horsepower ratings, that 200-hp figure might wind up being 197, which doesn’t quite have the same ring to it as 200. Honda is wringing its corporate hands over that. Even so, a 197-hp rating is still better than the 160 hp of today’s Si, though maybe even that’s now 158 or so, SAE.
The new Si engine will have 16 valves operated by dual overhead cams and i-VTEC, or variable lift electronic control with intelligence. Redline will be 8000 rpm. The Si engine will be mated to a six-speed manual and it will get a helical limited-slip differential. It will ensure power goes to the ground instead of spinning the inside-front tire uselessly.
Most of the Civic lineup will have a new 1.8-liter four that will make more power and offer a 6 percent improvement in fuel economy. Honda says the 1.8 offers the acceleration of a 2.0-liter and the fuel economy of a 1.5-liter engine. The 1.8 uses improved i-VTEC, drive-by-wire and variable-length intake runners to achieve its increased performance. Peak power is 140 hp and peak torque is 128 lb-ft, though there are suggestions a 155- or 160-hp version could be coming.
The 2006 Civic line will get a new hybrid engine that will be 20 percent more efficient than today’s. The gasoline engine portion of the hybrid will be 1.3 liters and offer three phases of i-VTEC, one for low rpm, one for high and one for idle. At idle the gas engine shuts down, restarting when the driver steps on the gas.
All that running gear will be placed in what Honda calls a new body from the floorpan up. Standard wheels are expected to be 15 inches, with 16-inch wheels on the EX and 17-inch wheels on the Si.
The Civic will come in two body styles, a four-door sedan and a two-door coupe. Sources say the bodies are slightly longer and wider. Combined with a slightly more cab-forward style, interior space is thus opened up. The Civic dash, meanwhile, is two-tiered, with an instrument binnacle bulging out of it. The interior generally gets favorable reviews from those who have seen it.
The slightly larger 2006 Civic will move it upscale just enough to make room for the coming five-door Jazz/Fit, due in the first half of next year. That smaller car will be aimed at Scion and at whatever Nissan decides to call its entry-level youth-oriented line. Stay tuned for word on all that.
MARK VAUGHN
Posted Date: 7/26/05
The new 2006 Honda Civic, due this fall, is more fun to drive than the car it replaces, our spies tell us, and there will even be a return of the racer’s favorite CRX badge in 2007. That’s not bad news, is it?
Those we spoke to who have driven the new Civic were enthusiastic about it.
“It’s an awesome car. It drives like the Integra Type R,” said one.
“This is exactly what Honda needs,” said another.
And these were performance-lovin’ guys.
Though Honda calls it an “all-new” car, a number of platform and suspension pieces either carry over or are only slightly revised.
The new Civic makes those gains without a return to double wishbones in front. The new suspension still has MacPherson struts. The rear suspension is also “revised,” but details are scarce. Expect a slightly tighter multilink setup.
Top of the engine chart is the 200-hp version of the K20 four-cylinder that will power the Civic Si and CRX. Civic Si— the most powerful Civic ever, according to Honda—will bow at the Specialty Equipment Market Association show in Las Vegas this November.
Of course, with the new SAE horsepower ratings, that 200-hp figure might wind up being 197, which doesn’t quite have the same ring to it as 200. Honda is wringing its corporate hands over that. Even so, a 197-hp rating is still better than the 160 hp of today’s Si, though maybe even that’s now 158 or so, SAE.
The new Si engine will have 16 valves operated by dual overhead cams and i-VTEC, or variable lift electronic control with intelligence. Redline will be 8000 rpm. The Si engine will be mated to a six-speed manual and it will get a helical limited-slip differential. It will ensure power goes to the ground instead of spinning the inside-front tire uselessly.
Most of the Civic lineup will have a new 1.8-liter four that will make more power and offer a 6 percent improvement in fuel economy. Honda says the 1.8 offers the acceleration of a 2.0-liter and the fuel economy of a 1.5-liter engine. The 1.8 uses improved i-VTEC, drive-by-wire and variable-length intake runners to achieve its increased performance. Peak power is 140 hp and peak torque is 128 lb-ft, though there are suggestions a 155- or 160-hp version could be coming.
The 2006 Civic line will get a new hybrid engine that will be 20 percent more efficient than today’s. The gasoline engine portion of the hybrid will be 1.3 liters and offer three phases of i-VTEC, one for low rpm, one for high and one for idle. At idle the gas engine shuts down, restarting when the driver steps on the gas.
All that running gear will be placed in what Honda calls a new body from the floorpan up. Standard wheels are expected to be 15 inches, with 16-inch wheels on the EX and 17-inch wheels on the Si.
The Civic will come in two body styles, a four-door sedan and a two-door coupe. Sources say the bodies are slightly longer and wider. Combined with a slightly more cab-forward style, interior space is thus opened up. The Civic dash, meanwhile, is two-tiered, with an instrument binnacle bulging out of it. The interior generally gets favorable reviews from those who have seen it.
The slightly larger 2006 Civic will move it upscale just enough to make room for the coming five-door Jazz/Fit, due in the first half of next year. That smaller car will be aimed at Scion and at whatever Nissan decides to call its entry-level youth-oriented line. Stay tuned for word on all that.
#515
Registered Abuser of VTEC
That Si is going to be very fast for it's segment. It'll be competing against the likes of the Chevy Cobalt SS. My bet is that it should be a lot nicer and upscale feeling, but not QUITE as fast. Does anyone know what the torque output on the K20 is?
#516
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by youngTL
That Si is going to be very fast for it's segment. It'll be competing against the likes of the Chevy Cobalt SS. My bet is that it should be a lot nicer and upscale feeling, but not QUITE as fast. Does anyone know what the torque output on the K20 is?
It should weigh what the RSX-S weighs so it will probly have the same accerleration numbers.
#517
Registered Abuser of VTEC
Originally Posted by dom
140 ish.
It should weigh what the RSX-S weighs so it will probly have the same accerleration numbers.
It should weigh what the RSX-S weighs so it will probly have the same accerleration numbers.