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Old 11-09-2006, 02:28 PM
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Honda brings Mugen name to U.S.

Mugen Civic Si will be coming to the US!!!


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only 500 to be brought over here?
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Just under 30k?!?!?! ...meh
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what took them so long
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what no mugen RL? hehehe
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It's about DARN TIME!

In my honest opinion, Mugen does the very best job on its cars than any of the Japanese super-specialty companies. Everything they make that I have had experience with is crafted to near-perfection and designed for pure driving enthusiasts. Take their p28 ECU for b-series engines, for example: engages VTEC harder, faster @ an insane 3,800 RPM. I don't know, perhaps I am obsessed with their products and I am looking for excuses to say they're the best. They sure as heck are über-expensive. My Mugen shift knob costs $95 shipped, but unlike any other on the market, it is designed to shorten the shift by about 2 inches.
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Ooh...sweet!

Now if I can get my hands on a set of those wheels...
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Where's the Mugen Legend Max...?!?!???
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Where's the Mugen Legend Max...?!?!???

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30K for nothing but suspension and cosmetic mods?
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Originally Posted by dom
30K for nothing but suspension and cosmetic mods?
But, but...the name...!
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mugen ftw!
Old 11-09-2006, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
30K for nothing but suspension and cosmetic mods?
Those were my thoughts exactly.
Bringing that thing stateside is a waste.

...Honda wake up and bring us the 5 door instead of the Mugen
Old 11-09-2006, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Bringing that thing stateside is a waste.

Right, because there's no way they'll sell all 500 and there'll be no hype about it at all...

I'm guessing this is just an indication of things to come.
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Originally Posted by dom
30K for nothing but suspension and cosmetic mods?
When is honda going to learn people want engine mods!!!!!
Old 11-09-2006, 06:25 PM
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Old 11-09-2006, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bgsm1th
Right, because there's no way they'll sell all 500 and there'll be no hype about it at all...

I'm guessing this is just an indication of things to come.
Sure they will sell them....but a true car enthusiast knows that this is all "fluff" and no substance....and for almost 30k?!?!!?

I hope this is not an indication of things to come from Honda!!!
We don't need more ground fx kits & spoilers.....we need engine, transmission & overall handling upgrades.
This is just mostly window dressing...nothing more.
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^^^ just look at the high demand for the integra type-r compared to the a-spec kits that are out.

type-r actually had performance enchancements up the wazoo compared to the standard gs-r

edit: maybe that's a bad comparison.

if mugen sold parts for the gs-r through acura dealers, they would have pushed gs-r sales even higher than they already were.
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^^ True....and 30k for pretty much looks....for a civic?!?!!?
You can get ALOT more car for that kind of money.
Honda needs to put down the pipe.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
^^ True....and 30k for pretty much looks....for a civic?!?!!?
You can get ALOT more car for that kind of money.
Honda needs to put down the pipe.
for 30K you can buy the base civic SI and do a lot more on your own with the car and it'll be better than the mugen civic they are offereing.
Old 11-09-2006, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by afici0nad0
canadians get shafted again...
you guys got the 2nd gen a-spec tl, so i don't want to hear any complaining
Old 11-09-2006, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
30K for nothing but suspension and cosmetic mods?
This is the equivalent of the new A-SPEC package.
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"We know this (Mugen) will sell," Mendel said. "It will be assembled and have a warranty by Honda, similar to the high-performance AMG vehicles by Mercedes. The Mugen Si sedan elevates the already impressive Si sedan into new performance territory."
^^This should be posted in red text.
Old 11-09-2006, 10:44 PM
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Mugen may produce performance cars, but most of their product lineup is just body kits, suspension, and exhausts. You can't really fault Honda for not including any performance upgrades...

An Si with Navi would be what? $23k. Mugen as it is, is quite pricey...taking into account how much a Mugen body kit/grill/spoiler, Mugen suspension, Mugen wheels, and a Mugen exhaust , plus the interior accesories along with the installation of said parts...under $30k should be right. It will indeed sell, with only 500 available a year, why wouldn't it - it'd be a bargain.

With that said, I too am dissapointed with this news. It's not like we need a glorified HFP package or anything...but I suppose Honda sees a need for it. At least they are paying attention to the niche group that made the Civic a cult classic among import enthusiasts...finally.
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30k for a civic with a fancy badge? :ghey:
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Originally Posted by rice
"We know this (Mugen) will sell," Mendel said. "It will be assembled and have a warranty by Honda, similar to the high-performance AMG vehicles by Mercedes. The Mugen Si sedan elevates the already impressive Si sedan into new performance territory."
did they really compare Mugen to AMG?
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So you guys are saying that Mugen's should not be assembled and have a warranty by Honda because AMG's are assembled and have a warranty by Mercedes Benz?

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uhh... my friend showed me another article said it was coming with a factory cat-back exhaust

http://www.motorauthority.com/cars/h...sedan-at-sema/

The car comes equipped with a high performance suspension kit, forged aluminum wheels, aerodynamic body styling plus a cat-back sport exhaust kit.

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Originally Posted by stangg172004
did they really compare Mugen to AMG?
I believe so...
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Wonder who is really going to be interested in buying this car vs an entry level luxury/sports sedan for similiar msrp. Honda has already announced their HFP package which is high priced enough for most people, the Mugen doesn't really do much to top Hondas package. Honda should offer a factory Type R package for the Si instead of offering high priced 'name brand' body kits etc..
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^^^ there's always the argument, how about a Mugen Civic Type-R
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maybe...just maybe if it sells well they'll offer Mugen on their other vehicles
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maybe...just maybe if it sells well they'll offer Mugen on their other vehicles
Overpriced bodykits for everyone!!!
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Overpriced bodykits for everyone!!!
Althought the first model year Mugen TSX kit looked hawt,

I wouldn't pay for the extra dollars for a mugen TSX unless it had serious performance gains.

This is one of the reasons I'm leaning towards Audi A3 or A4 for my next car. They are great stock, but still have a lot of room for modding and aren't too expensive either.

Acura's have gone down the crapper in the last 5 years in terms of modding ability IMO
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^^ It's more about increased performance than just looks.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Overpriced bodykits for everyone!!!
Gotta be hopeful they'll bring over some performance stuff too
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Originally Posted by TSX 'R' US
Gotta be hopeful they'll bring over some performance stuff too
If honda is wasting time making a Drift version of the Element, you may as well give up hope and move on to something else.

How many years have people been asking for Honda/Acura to develop things that other manufacturers have. Look at Nissan, their nismo line is great, Toyota's TRD Packages sell very well.

Once again, the conservative acura will doom themselves and go for the ultra conservative approach.

I'm glad to see they finally went with a turbo motor and awd, but how many years did it take to go that far.

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