Legend2TL

Honda and Acura did not do that with NSX, and AFAIK they did not with the RLX either.
They've been pretty consistent with their spec'ing method for hybrid drivetrain being the power/torque integration.

2017 Acura NSX Specifications and Features - Specs & Features - Honda News

NSX combined HP 573, the four motors are 500, 2 x 36, 47 which summed are 619

Electric motors have phenomenal low end torque (pretty flat torque curve up to their max. RPM)

kurtatx

Recently was looking at the CR-V at the local Honda dealership. Dang guys, I didn't drive one, but some of these Accords look every bit as good as Acuras. Now, I know this board has said this for a while, but I didn't believe it until I saw it.

Again, didn't get to drive, but I can't see why, at face value, you would pick an Acura over the Accord right now.

iforyou

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The gap has gotten even smaller now.

Now, the main differences would be the 8-DCT and 9AT vs the CVT and 6AT, slightly better NVH, and the availability of SH-AWD.

For me, the reason I'd go with the TLX is if I want SH-AWD. If I want FWD V6 power, I'd just buy the Accord Touring and save $8k.

kurtatx

Solid assessment. The number of options on the Touring Accord is just amazing, albeit that car gets pretty pricey.

AZuser

It's not April 1, so someone must've hacked your account because....

oonowindoo

I think "i told you so" would be enough

But yah for the price of a base/tech 4 banger TLX you can get the V6 Accord with everything and some.

Not to mention you also get some nice looking exhaust tips and a V6 badge

AZuser

But what if his account was hacked?

kurtatx

Whatever, dude. I'm human. People change. Honda is a lot better now than it was the last two times I was in the market and an Accord Touring is more expensive than a number of Acuras.

00TL-P3.2

Looks like '17 will get a Sport Special Edition

2017 Honda Accord Adds Sport Special Edition ? News ? Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog

Cliffs:
-Heated leather seats w/ red stitching
-SE badged
-$1k more than the standard cloth seated Sport.

oonowindoo

good value for $1k.

Black Tire

I have seen a fully loaded Accord Touring. They could put an Acura Badge on that thing and get away with it. It looks that good.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

Yea the facelifted accord looks really good in person...it even impressed my friend with a Q5 and a F10 5 series......like most people here, he felt the new Accord looks better than the TLX..LOL

kurtatx

And the Touring Package is just so loaded for a great price right now. In an Acura we have to settle for less features, less power, and wrong driving wheels. I go back and forth (i love my TSX) as to whether I would be more interested in just trading in for an Accord Touring next time around.

oonowindoo

I still can't believe the Accord Sport only cost $25k everytime i see one..

not saying the power train and tech. Just the exterior alone is so much better than its competitors.

Can't think of another family sedan that come with 19s at $25k...

pnoi521

+1 I think the Accord Touring looks way better than my TLX. I was strongly considering purchasing the Accord Touring but the dealers weren't willing to budge on the price and the white isnt offered with ebony interior, so I ended up with an Advance TLX for only a couple thousand more than the Touring Accord.

Abe_Froman

iTrader: (5)

It is actually even cheaper than that. I've seen dozens of people get them for 23-24k OTD.

00TL-P3.2

Mazda6 Touring is right around the same price.
Problem with 19s is that, last I saw, tire selection & prices aren't as good as 18s & 20s.

Those would easily be my top 2 choices if I were in the market for a mid-sized sedan.

Black Tire

God damned we keep getting ripped off in Canada:

TacoBello

you do realize our currency is valued at 30% lower than the US dollar, right?

and even if on par, everything is always more expensive in Canada, for many reasons, not limited to: paying higher taxes, much smaller market, higher wages in many areas, etc.

oonowindoo

oh the 6... yah another good looking one. #1 and #2.

oonowindoo

and how much is a base 4 banger TLX?

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

A couple thousand more than the Accord Touring.......including the oem lip kit...and is it FWD or AWD? Either way sounds like you got a good deal!

$35k......

pnoi521

it was before the lip kit for fwd.

AZuser

Honda Celebrates Four Decades of Accord ? America?s Best-Selling Car Over the Past 40 years - Honda News

Honda Celebrates Four Decades of Accord – America’s Best-Selling Car Over the Past 40 years

Jun 30, 2016 - TORRANCE, Calif.

• With sales of more than 12.7 million units since its debut in 1976, Accord is America's most popular, best-selling car over the last four decades1
• Honda has produced more than 10.5 million Accords in the U.S. since the start of production in Ohio in 1982
• Accord is the top retail-selling car in America for the past three years2 and most popular midsize car with under-35 buyers for five of the past six years3
• Honda pays tribute to rich heritage of Accord through "40 Years of America in Accord" video

and "Then and Now" video


In June 1976 Americans were gearing up to celebrate the Bicentennial and pick a new President, singing along to the number one song on the radio, Silly Love Songs and paying just 59 cents for a gallon of gas. Along came the Honda Accord, a fun and fuel-efficient three-door hatchback, beginning a four-decade long American success story.

Over 40 years and nine generations, Accord has consistently set the benchmark for the U.S. auto industry, earning the trust of more American car buyers than any other car during that period – with sales of more than 12.7 million Accords, the vast majority produced in Honda's U.S. plants. Through continuous improvement and innovation, Accord has earned a reputation as a segment-defining product, delivering class-leading reliability and durability with outstanding fuel efficiency and low emissions – along with refined and responsive driving dynamics and top-class safety performance.

As one important bellwether of its success, the Accord has been named to Car and Driver magazine's prestigious "10Best" list a record 30 times, a feat unmatched by any other automobile of any type. And while Accord built its success through the loyalty of the baby boom generation, its popularity continues with younger buyers as the top-selling midsize sedan and number two overall (to the Honda Civic) in sales to under-35 car customers for five of the past six years.

"The Accord embodies the challenging spirit of Honda and our commitment to delivering innovative products to our customers of the highest quality, reliability and value," said John Mendel, executive vice president of the Automobile Division of American Honda Motor Co., Inc. "Accord's success over four decades is deeply woven into the fabric of American car culture and American industry, and we are thankful for and deeply humbled by the loyalty and trust that our customers have placed in Honda and in Accord over the past 40 years."

Accord was the first Honda model and first vehicle from a Japanese automaker to be manufactured in America and has been in continuous production in America for nearly 34 years, since the start of Honda's U.S. automobile manufacturing at the company's Marysville, Ohio auto plant on November 1, 1982. Through the years, it also has been produced in the company's plants in East Liberty, Ohio; in Birmingham, Alabama; in Alliston, Ontario, Canada; and in El Salto, Jalisco, Mexico. In total, Honda has produced more than 10.7 million Accords in North America for both local and global markets.

Accord was also the first U.S.-made automobile from a Japanese automaker exported overseas, beginning with the shipment of Ohio-made Accords to Taiwan in 1987, followed by the landmark export of the U.S.-made Accord Coupe to Japan in March 1988.

From its humble roots as a hatchback with a smaller wheelbase than today's subcompact Honda Fit, to today's full lineup of engines and body styles – including the Accord Sedan and Coupe and just-launched 2017 Accord Hybrid – Accord has a legacy of leadership unique in the industry. Accord's ongoing success includes three consecutive years (2013-2015) as the top-selling car in America to individual car buyers.

A core element of Accord's enduring success is the ability to adapt to the changing needs of customers, including younger buyers, which today means meeting demand for advanced connectivity technology. The 2016 Accord, which received a major refresh in the fall of 2015, is one of the first high-volume models in the automotive industry to provide support for both Apple CarPlay™ and Android Auto™, seamlessly integrating the core features and functions of customers' smartphones.

In the area of safety, Accord also was among the first Honda models, along with the CR-V, Pilot, and Civic, to apply the Honda Sensing™ suite of advanced safety and driver-assistive technologies, which can help prevent or mitigate the severity of a collision and which also serve as both a technological and perceptual bridge to the highly automated vehicles of the future.

The name Accord was derived from Honda's unremitting effort to achieve "accord" between people, society and the automobile through advanced technology. The introduction of the first Accord in June 1976 was significant for both American Honda and the automobile industry as a whole. For Honda, then known mainly for its motorcycles and its economical Civic, Accord was the first step toward becoming a full-line automaker and a major presence in the U.S. automobile market. For the industry, the Accord defined a new kind of car - a practical automobile that combined economy and value with sporty style and spirited performance.

To mark the 40th anniversary, Honda is featuring a timeline of Accord firsts on the Accord family page of the website as well as posting highlights on social media channels including Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

To view 40 years of Accord history and learn more about the many firsts, body styles and models, visit Honda Accord Family ? Sedans, Coupes, and Hybrids | Honda.

Legend2TL

Honda begins testing Next-Gen Accord - Automobile

Flipster23

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No more V6, also some of the DA guys where reading (somewhere) that they want to do away with the manual.


1976 Accord still faster than a slow 325i.

oonowindoo

So they will have a N/A 2.4 and a Turbo 2.0? seems kinda redundant to me.

Flipster23

iTrader: (15)

Supposedly, they made it a little smaller. Reports were saying its almost the same size as the Civic now.



I'm glad I got my 9.5 gen, because I'm not sure I'm going to like the 10th gen.

oonowindoo

that will be very weird. if the Accord has the same fastback shape as Civic,, similar size as civic, i am sure it will look like the new Civic.. then is that a Civic?

AZuser

Same platform. Same size. Same shape.

Yup....
They've only been doing it for years with the Acura brand being Honda+

AZuser

It looks bigger than the current 9th gen Accord. Maybe it's going to be a full size car like 8th gen Accord.

oonowindoo

I personally think Accord can afford to be bigger since Civic has increased in size. all other competitor brands have something bigger.

But i wish it could stay at its current size tho...

TacoBello

I'm waiting for Honda to release a crown vic sized vehicle.

sam617

Any updates?

colt427

princelybug

iTrader: (16)

Hope not. thanks.

Looks like a overblown Civic. The current Accord body style looks great, and is the best version yet.

colt427

I'd have to see it in person.
Looks like a lot of German influence.

kurtatx

If Honda had a better AWD option, I would think this thing could do well in Europe and the US.

Then again, if Honda closed up Acura and used the money to improve the core brand, the Accord might be an incredible automobile.

AZuser

No. It's a photochop

JT4

From the rear quarter window back it reminds me of an Audi / VW design