Jason

They give you your first three months free. XM rocks dude.

provench

rzee - I was just about to ask that

I think the answer is yes ... and that means to me you can keep your XM ... I am not gonna pay for no stinkin' music.

kurt_bradley

Same pricing as it is on the RL. Free for the first 3 months, and $10/month after that if you choose to keep it in service.

shaf

Considering that 95% of popular music sucks, I'll keep my mp3 player, thanks. 30GB of (legitimate) mp3s and I can make my own freaking "radio stations" (a.k.a. non-repeating playlists) for free

rzee

prov! great minds think alike! Now are you going to finally give me some special power???

rzee

BTW, the freaking Acura mp3 player sux. On top of what I have mentioned before, it can only display two-digit track number.

Did you guys know the trip meter on your dash only shows 3-digit miles.

iNteGraz92

well then, good for you

shaf

Actually, I just looked at the XM stations, and I could see why people would want it. The music selection is fairly diverse; it seems like they added quite a few stations since I last looked at the brochure (or maybe I was looking at Sirius or something).

I still prefer the MP3 player, but I could see myself dropping Showtime to save $10 and picking up XM . Looks like you can even get the price down to $8.30 by signing a 2 year contract.

jt5905

Me wants XM too, escecially if the Accord will get it. They already have the power passenger seat and intergrated key, what gives I thought that Acura were supposed to be more lux than Honda?

SPUDMTN

Okay...maybe this theory is just a little weird and hard to understand...but...the Accord is Honda's top of the line model, right? Well, while the Acura TSX is a luxury car, it's one of Acura's "lesser" models. Soo...maybe that explains some of the missing features.

As for XM--I think they'll put it in the TSX soon. I'm guessing that Acura will have it in all of its models here real soon. But there's no telling for sure


SPUDMTN

jackspat2

Never heard or played around with satellite radio (always says, "could not find signal" inside the stores). I've heard that Sirius radio has no commercials.

fjtorres

Actually, the answer is simpler.
1- TSX is a euro-spec car.
2- Europe doesn't get XM or Sirius, does it?
3- ergo...

Jason

There are no acceptable explainations as to why a 2004 Honda Accord has XM but my 2004 Acura does not. I am most unhappy about this.

GRAYTSX

I'll show you my Sirius next Sat. It might make you feel better.

Jason

Thanks Gray. I looked at Best Buy for sat radio and I saw why you chose the Sirius. It's a problem b/c I want XM but there's no way I'm installing that huge amber head unit in my car. But I also want clean installation and don't want to sacrifice my center stack storage space. Oh well.

Skyhawk

One "problem": The 2004 Audis get XM.

Raheel

Something that still strikes me as odd is people say the 04TL Key will not be integrated.. My god the 03Accord's key is integrated for god sakes.. and Lexus' has had there cars with integrated keys for years..

Why does Acura not understand they are in competition!

Also my 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS has power Passenger Seats, how does a 30k TSX Not?

The thing is Honda wants to keep everything balanced between Honda and Acura so they give and take features, like the 2004 TSX Doesn't have memory seats but the 2003 TL does but in 2005 I think the TSX will too..

I dont get how Honda thinks, I just hope they are thinking better for the future and not fking themselves up!

EDIT: Also I dont get why the fiken TSX has side mirror Turn signals while a higher model (04TL) Does not!

rb6teg

I have XM, and I will never EVER get rid of it as long as the company stays in business.

I too, am sick of the music played on the radio, and XM has a TON of underground music. I haven't listened to my CD's for a year now because all I've listened to is XM. XM 80, 81, 82 are the shit, underground electronica, played directly from vinyl, some are white label records.....doesn't get much more anti-FM radio than that.

congee

Accord has power passenger seats?! I just test drove a coupe yesterday and the dealer said only the driver side was powered. Is it available in the sedan or a different trim?

fjtorres

Ah, but Audi, and indeed most euro-vendors, heavily Americanize their cars before shipping them here.

What they ship here is most definitely *not* euro-spec.

Honda did americanize the TSX but to a lesser degree since the raison d'etre for the car is precisely to be as close to euro-spec as possible. And since each americanization step costs money and is an active decision--rather than a passive one--that must be justified by a large enough target audience, there is no reason to expect a technology that is still ramping up deployment and is regional to boot, to register as a must-have feature.

So the answer remains; the baseline configuration for the TSX is euro-spec and it does not feature satellite radio.

As usual, if enough people whine, Honda will probably add it.

StanH

Sounds reasonable, but still silly. They gave the car a different engine than they use in the Euro Accord, why not XM capability?

I have XM radio in my TSX. Just returned from driving to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan (4000 miles total). It was great!! It has genres for everybody and no commercials that I heard.

Sure, there's something to be said for MP3s, but sometimes it's very nice to be surprised by music you like but didn't select beforehand.

By the way, I didn't see another TSX on the entire trip.

rzee

I am not all that familiar with XM, so maybe some of you guys can tell me some of these questions. When there is storm cloud in the sky, can you still receive signal? How about on a lower deck of a bridge? Am I correct to assume that it will not work in a garage?

Anyway, I don't see myself getting XM, but I guess it make sense for people who travels a lot.

Skyhawk

I occasionally lose the signal going through a toll booth or while at the gas pump, but not even always in those situations.

I have never lost the signal due to weather (that I can attribute or attest). Lower deck of bridge you may be okay; you're definitely SOL in a tunnel.

I have been very pleased with all aspects (reception and content) on XM.

I got XM because "local" radio is virtually nonexistent - and what does exist, sucks -- and it has filled the bill beautifully.

Although I had an aftermarket unit installed on my Audi, I will not buy another car without it integrated. Audi understands my desires; Honda, are you listening?

Skyhawk

My money says TSX definitely gets XM by MY 2005; hopefully (certainly possible) a mid-MY 2004 (Jan 2004) update.

While I think it is ridiculous, I think some marketing genius at Honda dictated that XM must "trickle down". RL got it in July, TL in Oct.... TSX will be next, then RSX. Note that for "Honda", that only Accords with leather are getting it now; surely in the future it will trickle down to cloth Accords, as well as Civics, CRV's, etc.

Skyhawk

I think it is Accord V6 EX's only that get power passenger seats.

need4spd_RENAMED

yep, the 96 Maxima has a power pass seat, because it had leather (climate control too with the leather).

In regards to XM, it is cool, my brother in law has it in his chevy pickup, it does have NASCAR radio, and comedy, and blues, and classical, and the other stuff we like (PUNK, ROCK, etc). Still do not like to pay the money for it, just like the extra cost for high speed internet, it just aint right.

XM or Serius is avail on the Audi's (your option), and BMW has Serrius, GM is XM, Chrysler has one of them Toyota too, Nissan has XM, list goes on and on, just go to the XM or Serius web sites and you will see all the makers that are adding it.

SPUDMTN

I can answer this one Check out the crease on the 2004 TL and take note of the integrated turn-signals in the crease. Pretty nifty feature!

I too wondered at first why the TL doesn't have the mirrors w/ integrated turn-signals.


SPUDMTN

Raheel

Are you talking about the black little rectangle in front or the red one in the back?

Are they both Turn signals?

Even so, its still not a Integrated signal in the Mirror.

what color will the black rectangle light up as?

need4spd_RENAMED

No, the one in the back is a rear side marker. The black/smoked one in the front will light up yellow. Look at the Lycos photos where the lights are on, you can clearly see this.

Raheel

so the front black one will always stay on and light up Yellow, while the back red one will blink for the indicator?

Thats not a bad idea

Will the Black one in the front also blink with the rear one when indicator is on, or do you think it will stay Yellow?

SPUDMTN

Well...I may be wrong...but the way this system normally works on cars is that the front side marker will flash w/ the turn indicators, while the back one will stay on constantly w/ the headlights, and not flash w/ the turn signal.

After looking at the pictures again, it looks like both markers will stay on constant w/ the headlamps on. I would expect the yellow one to blink w/ the turn signals--considering that amber is required for turn signals on the front of the vehicle.

SPUDMTN

need4spd_RENAMED

I agree with you spud, the rear red one will be on with the rest of the lights, while the front black/amber one will be on with the lights and flash with the turn signals.

It is weird though for the amber to be on with the lights in that location (seeing that the front ambers are also on). I would have thought that the black/amber one should only come on with the turn signals like European cars in that location, and the TSX mirror lights do.

Also, I liked the amber lens color on the prototype much better than the black/smoke lens of the seattle car.

It would even be nicer in a clear lens for the lighter colored cars (europeans use either amber lenses or more reciently, clear in this position).

pikespeakkevin

You can get it NOW in the 2004 TSX as an option below the CD player. I have it in mine.

PW/AUTO/NAVI/XM 10118

BuddySol

I always noticed cars eqipped with front sidemarkers are usually on with the rest of the driving lights. Anyhow, by law they'd have to light up amber (driving or signaling). But for the front turn signals, you should check your state laws cause some States allow clear/white signals.

Hmmm, speaking of sidemarkers: I like how Porche and the Infiniti G35 place their sidemarker along the wheel well.

RJC RSX

yeah! I was following a carrera last week and from directly behind it i could see the sidemarker, it was cool!

huskerfan

I had a 98 Accord EX V6 Sedan and a Coupe. The coupe didn't have a power passenger seat. I think it may be because the coupe is a two door and the seat folds and releases forward to give passengers easy entry into the back.

gavriil

Here's the proof that Honda's performance chiefs 'R' working on a speedy edition of the Accord. These are the first official pictures of a high-powered Type R version of the recently launched Tourer estate.

Officially, it's a concept, known as the Accord Tourer Diesel Sports Study Model, and it's the first high-performance oil-burner the firm has ever produced. Using the 2.2 i-CDTi diesel and thought to offer masses of torque, it comes with enormous alloys, flared bodywork and revised exhausts. Inside, there are bucket seats and a sporty steering wheel.

This is not the first time the firm has considered a performance edition of its acclaimed family car. The chunky load-lugger follows on from the wild super-Accord seen at the Geneva Motor Show earlier this year. Aimed at the likes of the Mercedes C32 and BMW M3, the concept could use electric and petrol hybrid power. By adapting the firm's IMA technology, it would offer a 200bhp four-cylinder unit up front and a 150bhp electric rear motor, giving 350bhp in total and returning 35mpg economy.

Minch00

Holy shit! Where do I sign up!?!

Sarlacc

I would totally hit that.

Minch00

I normally don't like Hatches/Wagons, but that's fuckin BALLIN.