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07-13-2006, 11:13 AM
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I'm very interested...it fits what we're looking for- a large (Yukon) sized vehicle that does not look like a minivan. I like the MPG, especially compared to our Pathfinder and the current crop of large SUVs. The only downside is my own perception of a first year GM vehicle likely being a reliability issue.
07-13-2006, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by unlemming
No mention of the V8, I wonder if it will get similar MPG with DOD? Either way, 
07-13-2006, 06:27 PM
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Very nice interior...if there is anything to complain about: the steering wheel sux, and the speedo and tach look cheap.
The exterior is 100x's better than the Trailblazer and Envoy. It's nothing innovative or cutting edge or even original, but a HUGE leap for GM.
...and yes, GMC needs a new logo and front grille design NOW!!!
The exterior is 100x's better than the Trailblazer and Envoy. It's nothing innovative or cutting edge or even original, but a HUGE leap for GM.
...and yes, GMC needs a new logo and front grille design NOW!!!
07-13-2006, 08:54 PM
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What am I missing here? It's still a 4000+lb vehicle with a price of over 30K whose milage will be similar to todays' SUVs. So we call them crossovers and all of a sudden all the people who used to buy SUVs or minivans (and no longer want one) will be suckered into these?
Nothing else other than a slight body shape change. Another fad may have been created but the big picture numbers (size, weight, price, milage) have not changed.
Nothing else other than a slight body shape change. Another fad may have been created but the big picture numbers (size, weight, price, milage) have not changed.
07-13-2006, 09:12 PM
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What's that lever on the right side of the driver's seat??
07-13-2006, 11:53 PM
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lumbar adjustment
07-14-2006, 06:58 AM
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What am I missing here?
07-14-2006, 08:12 AM
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It's a production GM product with a nice exterior, a nice interior, and a decent powertrain. And it's not a Corvette. That's pretty significant
07-17-2006, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by biker
What am I missing here? It's still a 4000+lb vehicle with a price of over 30K whose milage will be similar to todays' SUVs. So we call them crossovers and all of a sudden all the people who used to buy SUVs or minivans (and no longer want one) will be suckered into these?
Nothing else other than a slight body shape change. Another fad may have been created but the big picture numbers (size, weight, price, milage) have not changed.
Nothing else other than a slight body shape change. Another fad may have been created but the big picture numbers (size, weight, price, milage) have not changed.
First off the MPG is better than a similar sized SUV- Yukon Denali is 13/19. This is 18 or 19 (don't remember which)/24. That is a significant difference in my book at today's gas prices.
The look is more SUV than minivan. There are many people (count my wife and I) as people who need the room of a minivan but are too vain to drive a minivan. How many SUV drivers really need the capabilities of the SUV? Very few...but they sold bc of the image. You could make the argument for many different kinds of cars...how many Porsche drivers really use the capabilities of their 911?
Plus, these vehicles are built upon a car platform so you get a better ride/handling/lighter than a similarly sized platform.
Different strokes for different folks but I'm betting that these vehicles do very well for GM- so long as their not a reliability nightmare.
07-17-2006, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by keg1997
I'll take a stab at this...
First off the MPG is better than a similar sized SUV- Yukon Denali is 13/19. This is 18 or 19 (don't remember which)/24. That is a significant difference in my book at today's gas prices.
The look is more SUV than minivan. There are many people (count my wife and I) as people who need the room of a minivan but are too vain to drive a minivan. How many SUV drivers really need the capabilities of the SUV? Very few...but they sold bc of the image. You could make the argument for many different kinds of cars...how many Porsche drivers really use the capabilities of their 911?
Plus, these vehicles are built upon a car platform so you get a better ride/handling/lighter than a similarly sized platform.
Different strokes for different folks but I'm betting that these vehicles do very well for GM- so long as their not a reliability nightmare.
First off the MPG is better than a similar sized SUV- Yukon Denali is 13/19. This is 18 or 19 (don't remember which)/24. That is a significant difference in my book at today's gas prices.
The look is more SUV than minivan. There are many people (count my wife and I) as people who need the room of a minivan but are too vain to drive a minivan. How many SUV drivers really need the capabilities of the SUV? Very few...but they sold bc of the image. You could make the argument for many different kinds of cars...how many Porsche drivers really use the capabilities of their 911?
Plus, these vehicles are built upon a car platform so you get a better ride/handling/lighter than a similarly sized platform.
Different strokes for different folks but I'm betting that these vehicles do very well for GM- so long as their not a reliability nightmare.
07-17-2006, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by keg1997
I'll take a stab at this...
First off the MPG is better than a similar sized SUV- Yukon Denali is 13/19. This is 18 or 19 (don't remember which)/24. That is a significant difference in my book at today's gas prices.
The look is more SUV than minivan. There are many people (count my wife and I) as people who need the room of a minivan but are too vain to drive a minivan. How many SUV drivers really need the capabilities of the SUV? Very few...but they sold bc of the image. You could make the argument for many different kinds of cars...how many Porsche drivers really use the capabilities of their 911?
Plus, these vehicles are built upon a car platform so you get a better ride/handling/lighter than a similarly sized platform.
Different strokes for different folks but I'm betting that these vehicles do very well for GM- so long as their not a reliability nightmare.
First off the MPG is better than a similar sized SUV- Yukon Denali is 13/19. This is 18 or 19 (don't remember which)/24. That is a significant difference in my book at today's gas prices.
The look is more SUV than minivan. There are many people (count my wife and I) as people who need the room of a minivan but are too vain to drive a minivan. How many SUV drivers really need the capabilities of the SUV? Very few...but they sold bc of the image. You could make the argument for many different kinds of cars...how many Porsche drivers really use the capabilities of their 911?
Plus, these vehicles are built upon a car platform so you get a better ride/handling/lighter than a similarly sized platform.
Different strokes for different folks but I'm betting that these vehicles do very well for GM- so long as their not a reliability nightmare.
+1 to all of that and to being vain.
07-17-2006, 12:36 PM
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This car on paper sounds like a great machine. The interior looks fantastic and I can tell you first hand that my experience with the new Escalade shows that GM is taking interior refinement seriously. This car and its siblings should sell well.
07-17-2006, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
+1 to all of that and to being vain.
My wife sure as hell is
Then again....who am I kidding...I am to a certain extent as well
07-17-2006, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by keg1997
I'll take a stab at this...
First off the MPG is better than a similar sized SUV- Yukon Denali is 13/19. This is 18 or 19 (don't remember which)/24. That is a significant difference in my book at today's gas prices.
First off the MPG is better than a similar sized SUV- Yukon Denali is 13/19. This is 18 or 19 (don't remember which)/24. That is a significant difference in my book at today's gas prices.
Nothing wrong with this vehicle, but if the main reason people are fleeing SUVs/minivans is milage or price, this is not the answer. If it's just politically incorrect to be seen in an SUV/minivan one is way too worried what other people think.
07-17-2006, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by biker
That's not quite a fair comparison - the Yukon has a V8 and this 19/24 milage is achieved with a much less powerful V6. Also, the Denali is probably another 1000lbs heavier than this. If you look at another SUV that is around the size of the Acadia you'll see similar milage. As far as hwy milage, this thing is almost as much a brick (aerodynamically speaking) as a Yukon - so it won't fare much better. The main milage gain will be in the city number due to the much heavier weight of the Yukon.
Nothing wrong with this vehicle, but if the main reason people are fleeing SUVs/minivans is milage or price, this is not the answer. If it's just politically incorrect to be seen in an SUV/minivan one is way too worried what other people think.
Nothing wrong with this vehicle, but if the main reason people are fleeing SUVs/minivans is milage or price, this is not the answer. If it's just politically incorrect to be seen in an SUV/minivan one is way too worried what other people think.
07-18-2006, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by biker
That's not quite a fair comparison - the Yukon has a V8 and this 19/24 milage is achieved with a much less powerful V6. Also, the Denali is probably another 1000lbs heavier than this. If you look at another SUV that is around the size of the Acadia you'll see similar milage. As far as hwy milage, this thing is almost as much a brick (aerodynamically speaking) as a Yukon - so it won't fare much better. The main milage gain will be in the city number due to the much heavier weight of the Yukon.
Nothing wrong with this vehicle, but if the main reason people are fleeing SUVs/minivans is milage or price, this is not the answer. If it's just politically incorrect to be seen in an SUV/minivan one is way too worried what other people think.
Nothing wrong with this vehicle, but if the main reason people are fleeing SUVs/minivans is milage or price, this is not the answer. If it's just politically incorrect to be seen in an SUV/minivan one is way too worried what other people think.
As far as describing the Acadia as a "brick" and saying that it will suffer from the same low highway mileage as the Yukon.....why would GM put out numbers such as 19/24 then? Apparently the Acadia is not the "brick" that you describe since it achieves a highway number that is nearly 25% higher than the Yukon. The differences in the city numbers are even larger, as you described, likely for the same reason that you mentioned.
Our interest in the model is quite simple- It is a large family vehicle yet does not scream minivan (not our cup of tea) while cutting off the biggest negatives of a true SUV (gas mileage). Our preference to stay away from a minivan or an SUV with atrocious gas mileage is just that...a preference. Nothing more...nothing less.
I personally believe that if the Acadia is as described, that GM might just have a hit on their hands b/c it does what SUVs do while avoiding that minivan image. Isn't that what their stockholders would want?
07-18-2006, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by keg1997
I personally believe that if the Acadia is as described, that GM might just have a hit on their hands b/c it does what SUVs do while avoiding that minivan image. Isn't that what their stockholders would want?
07-18-2006, 01:46 PM
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^^^^
Do you really think they're going to position the Buick as the "luxury" brand? I'm 31 and I'd find it difficult to tell my buddies that we just bought a Buick since we usually make comments like, "driving grandad's Buick"... I suppose that I was assuming that the GMC version would be the luxury/sportier (The whole "professional grade thing) model and Buick would be softer, more grandfatherly model.
Do you really think they're going to position the Buick as the "luxury" brand? I'm 31 and I'd find it difficult to tell my buddies that we just bought a Buick since we usually make comments like, "driving grandad's Buick"... I suppose that I was assuming that the GMC version would be the luxury/sportier (The whole "professional grade thing) model and Buick would be softer, more grandfatherly model.
07-18-2006, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by keg1997
^^^^
Do you really think they're going to position the Buick as the "luxury" brand? I'm 31 and I'd find it difficult to tell my buddies that we just bought a Buick since we usually make comments like, "driving grandad's Buick"... I suppose that I was assuming that the GMC version would be the luxury/sportier (The whole "professional grade thing) model and Buick would be softer, more grandfatherly model.
Do you really think they're going to position the Buick as the "luxury" brand? I'm 31 and I'd find it difficult to tell my buddies that we just bought a Buick since we usually make comments like, "driving grandad's Buick"... I suppose that I was assuming that the GMC version would be the luxury/sportier (The whole "professional grade thing) model and Buick would be softer, more grandfatherly model.
07-18-2006, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by biker
That's not quite a fair comparison - the Yukon has a V8 and this 19/24 milage is achieved with a much less powerful V6. Also, the Denali is probably another 1000lbs heavier than this. If you look at another SUV that is around the size of the Acadia you'll see similar milage. As far as hwy milage, this thing is almost as much a brick (aerodynamically speaking) as a Yukon - so it won't fare much better. The main milage gain will be in the city number due to the much heavier weight of the Yukon.
Nothing wrong with this vehicle, but if the main reason people are fleeing SUVs/minivans is milage or price, this is not the answer. If it's just politically incorrect to be seen in an SUV/minivan one is way too worried what other people think.
Nothing wrong with this vehicle, but if the main reason people are fleeing SUVs/minivans is milage or price, this is not the answer. If it's just politically incorrect to be seen in an SUV/minivan one is way too worried what other people think.
Yukon- 109 cubic feet
Acadia- 117 cubic feet
This just confirms my previous beliefs....the Acadia appears to be a more efficient vehicle in many senses of the word.
07-18-2006, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by keg1997
Just checked the interior room for both:
Yukon- 109 cubic feet
Acadia- 117 cubic feet
This just confirms my previous beliefs....the Acadia appears to be a more efficient vehicle in many senses of the word.
Yukon- 109 cubic feet
Acadia- 117 cubic feet
This just confirms my previous beliefs....the Acadia appears to be a more efficient vehicle in many senses of the word.
07-18-2006, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by keg1997
Good explanation Titan....it'll be interesting to see how GM differentiates these vehicles.
07-18-2006, 04:13 PM
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I thought Saturn was moving upscale too?
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2007 GMC Arcadia Pricing Announced - - Text & Photos edited by Clinton Deacon - - SOurce: http://www.worldcarfans.com/
GMC announced today that pricing for GMC's first crossover SUV, the all-new 2007 Acadia, will begin at $29,990 for a well-equipped front-wheel-drive model.
"The next generation of GMC is here with the all-new Acadia," said John Larson, GMC general manager. "The fuel-efficient crossover has a sleek design and spacious interior that offers all of the people and cargo-carrying capabilities that you would expect in a utility vehicle, along with the smooth ride and responsive handling that feels more like a luxury sedan."
Acadia, which goes on sale at the end of the year, is available in front- or all-wheel-drive models. The base FWD model pricing includes the destination freight charge, is well-equipped, with GM's all-new high-feature 3.6L V-6 engine with variable valve timing. It offers 275 horsepower (205 kW) and 251 lb.-ft. of torque (340 Nm) and EPA ratings of 18 mpg city / 26 mpg highway on FWD models. The engine is backed by a new, fuel-saving Hydra-Matic 6T75 six-speed automatic transmission.
The Acadia comfortably seats up to eight adults and has a standard 60/40 split-folding third-row seat. It offers more space than many of its competitors, with nearly 20 cubic feet of cargo space behind the third row.
Other standard features on the GMC Acadia include:
StabiliTrak stability control system with rollover mitigation technology
Six air bags - two frontal-impact air bags, two seat-mounted side-impact air bags; and head curtain side-impact air bags that help protect outboard passengers in all three rows
Four-wheel disc anti-lock brakes
OnStar Generation 7 hardware with one-year Directions and Connections service that features new voice-activated Turn-by-Turn Navigation
GM's exclusive Smart Slide feature on second-row seating, allowing quick and easy access to the third row
AM/FM stereo with CD and MP3 players and six-speaker audio system
Dual exhaust with chrome tips
Rear spoiler
18-inch wheels
Also standard on Acadia and new for 2007 is GM's five-year / 100,000-mile powertrain warranty, which is fully transferable and includes courtesy transportation and roadside assistance for the duration of the warranty. Customers can get a preview of the new Acadia at www.gmc.com.
"The next generation of GMC is here with the all-new Acadia," said John Larson, GMC general manager. "The fuel-efficient crossover has a sleek design and spacious interior that offers all of the people and cargo-carrying capabilities that you would expect in a utility vehicle, along with the smooth ride and responsive handling that feels more like a luxury sedan."
Acadia, which goes on sale at the end of the year, is available in front- or all-wheel-drive models. The base FWD model pricing includes the destination freight charge, is well-equipped, with GM's all-new high-feature 3.6L V-6 engine with variable valve timing. It offers 275 horsepower (205 kW) and 251 lb.-ft. of torque (340 Nm) and EPA ratings of 18 mpg city / 26 mpg highway on FWD models. The engine is backed by a new, fuel-saving Hydra-Matic 6T75 six-speed automatic transmission.
The Acadia comfortably seats up to eight adults and has a standard 60/40 split-folding third-row seat. It offers more space than many of its competitors, with nearly 20 cubic feet of cargo space behind the third row.
Other standard features on the GMC Acadia include:
StabiliTrak stability control system with rollover mitigation technology
Six air bags - two frontal-impact air bags, two seat-mounted side-impact air bags; and head curtain side-impact air bags that help protect outboard passengers in all three rows
Four-wheel disc anti-lock brakes
OnStar Generation 7 hardware with one-year Directions and Connections service that features new voice-activated Turn-by-Turn Navigation
GM's exclusive Smart Slide feature on second-row seating, allowing quick and easy access to the third row
AM/FM stereo with CD and MP3 players and six-speaker audio system
Dual exhaust with chrome tips
Rear spoiler
18-inch wheels
Also standard on Acadia and new for 2007 is GM's five-year / 100,000-mile powertrain warranty, which is fully transferable and includes courtesy transportation and roadside assistance for the duration of the warranty. Customers can get a preview of the new Acadia at www.gmc.com.
10-20-2006, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
Agreed, looking foward to the Buick Enclave as well.......the concept is real nice.