Ford: Mustang News
03-30-2011, 11:28 AM
#1041
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People buy Evos and STis for DD duty 
But I see your point.
and 116 mph trap
I'm pretty sure the Boss is actually rated somewhere closer to ~480 at the crank. What a beast of a car, great stopgap between a GT and a GT500. It's what the Camaro Z28 SHOULD be, 302 cubes, track-oriented and all.
But I see your point.and 116 mph trap
I'm pretty sure the Boss is actually rated somewhere closer to ~480 at the crank. What a beast of a car, great stopgap between a GT and a GT500. It's what the Camaro Z28 SHOULD be, 302 cubes, track-oriented and all.
The car is really a technical marvel too...with the "Track Key", and all of the technology that goes into it. Very impressive.
03-30-2011, 01:10 PM
#1043
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03-30-2011, 01:14 PM
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That does not sound stock...
But holy shit.
But holy shit.
03-30-2011, 01:27 PM
#1046
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03-30-2011, 01:53 PM
#1047
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You fell for that marketing gimmick?
Track key seems to do the same thing as other cars that have a button that changes the cars engine management system. Ford just is using a "key" and i think even the early 90s ZR1 had something similar.
04-03-2011, 10:10 PM
#1049
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^
Maybe the auto tranny is the way to go...
Maybe the auto tranny is the way to go...
04-03-2011, 10:35 PM
#1050
Fuck, the sound 
A stalled torque converter will do that for you.... make a car launch like a bat outta hell, assuming you've got the traction. People who grow up around Hondas get the impression that auto transmissions are slower (and for Honda, they are) but other companies can make some pretty efficient ones.
oh, and apparently that's a new Saliva song!
Don't listen to em much but my head was nodding
A stalled torque converter will do that for you.... make a car launch like a bat outta hell, assuming you've got the traction. People who grow up around Hondas get the impression that auto transmissions are slower (and for Honda, they are) but other companies can make some pretty efficient ones.
oh, and apparently that's a new Saliva song!
Don't listen to em much but my head was nodding
04-03-2011, 11:28 PM
#1051
Whats up with RDX owners?
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05-18-2011, 05:34 PM
#1052
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...11-mustang-5-0
Editorial: Do Not Buy A 2011 Mustang 5.0
What you see above is the cutaway of the Ford 5.0L mill, taken from the 2010 New York Auto Show. Formerly known as the Coyote V8, the 5.0-packed 2011 Mustang GT hit the showroom floors, winning rave reviews with every journalist lucky enough to get their hands on one. While blogging for TTAC at the New York Auto Show, I hit up the Five-Oh engine displays at the Ford booth. It was a thoroughly technical and suitably beautiful exhibit. Only problem was, it gave away a secret that nobody should know. Camera in hand, I did the deed: a picture tells a thousand words, but this TTAC Editorial still needs about 800 words to go with.
Take a gander at the 5.0’s combustion chamber, highlighted in red. It’s a strange little bump. And nothing more, right? Sure, unless you read between the (casting) lines: its proof that the 5.0 Mustang shall receive a significant improvement in the near future. Yes, Dearborn’s got a trick up its sleeve: direct injection.
I spoke with one of the well-versed product specialists, a booth babe in true TTAC style, aside from the fact that he was most certainly not a “she.” No, I never asked if he came with the car, but I did challenge him to explain the 5.0’s tempting cylinder head design. And while he never said anything quotable, the look on his face was picture perfect: if I told you, I’d have to kill you.
Typical auto show banter between savvy product specialists and bored car hacks? Perhaps. But the fact remains, nobody should buy a Mustang GT until that casting bump turns into a hole for a fuel injector. But what’s the big deal?
Direct fuel injection, as opposed to (intake) port fuel injection, is the latest technology in the advancement of the internal combustion engine. It’s one of many advancements that proves the piston engine gets better with age, and beats the dubious “Moore’s Law” argument of Tesla fans. And the proof is already on the street: owners of late model diesels, EcoBoost Fords several GM products like the Cadillac CTS already know the drill: direct injection gives more power, more economy and lower emissions with zero changes to the driving experience. It is the textbook definition of having your cake and eating it too.
Geek Alert! Let’s get detailed: a port fuel injection vehicle has the fuel injector placed in the intake manifold, usually at the end of the runner, behind the intake valve. Direct Injection places the injector in the red circle from the picture above: so there’s no more mixing of air and fuel in the intake. The benefit is simple: injecting the fuel at a very high pressure (2000psi, compared to 10-60 psi) directly into the combustion chamber produces a cooling charge. Much to the joy of mechanical engineers everywhere, “cold” fuel gets shot into a hot combustion chamber: Thermodynamics wins. This helps reduce engine knock, so higher ignition timing and/or compression ratios can be implemented. Just like sane doses of Nitrous Oxide on a motor, the extra cooling charge afforded by Direct Injection is a huge win by itself.
The doubters might mention the Jaguar XF makes “only” 385 horses with its direct injected 5.0L mill, which is less than the current Mustang’s 412 ponies. But both 5.0s come from different engine families. And when you consider the Jag’s power bump from port to direct injection, the improvement is real.
Even if my theory is correct, there’s no guarantee that the direct injected Mustang shall be any more powerful than the current model. Ford can pull a fast one: de-tuning the direct injected 5.0 for a multitude of reasons. Thanks to drive-by-wire and traction control nannies, the direct injected 5.0 can easily give 80% of a day’s work and nobody will notice. Considering damn near every vehicle today has power robbing torque management built into its DNA, why would Ford up the Mustang to its full potential?
Go back to 1986: the year that port fuel injection (@200hp/285tq) took the 5.0’s game to refined places the Holley four-barrel (@210hp/270tq) of 1985 couldn’t even imagine. Torque went up, but the 1986 Mustang lost 5% in peak horsepower. Cue the modestly-redesigned 1987 Mustang: a quickie head swap to ye olde F-150 parts turned the Mustang’s EFI 5.0 (@225hp/300tq) into the real deal. That’s a healthy 7 and 11% increase in hp/tq over 1985’s tried and true Holley carburetor. All of which signaled the end to our fascination with glorified toilet bowls on engines. For the better!
Imagine if the direct injected 5.0 pulls a “1987” on us: the 412hp/390tq we see today will be nothing compared to the 441hp/433tq of our near future. It’s entirely possible. But will history repeat itself? Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
What you see above is the cutaway of the Ford 5.0L mill, taken from the 2010 New York Auto Show. Formerly known as the Coyote V8, the 5.0-packed 2011 Mustang GT hit the showroom floors, winning rave reviews with every journalist lucky enough to get their hands on one. While blogging for TTAC at the New York Auto Show, I hit up the Five-Oh engine displays at the Ford booth. It was a thoroughly technical and suitably beautiful exhibit. Only problem was, it gave away a secret that nobody should know. Camera in hand, I did the deed: a picture tells a thousand words, but this TTAC Editorial still needs about 800 words to go with.
Take a gander at the 5.0’s combustion chamber, highlighted in red. It’s a strange little bump. And nothing more, right? Sure, unless you read between the (casting) lines: its proof that the 5.0 Mustang shall receive a significant improvement in the near future. Yes, Dearborn’s got a trick up its sleeve: direct injection.
I spoke with one of the well-versed product specialists, a booth babe in true TTAC style, aside from the fact that he was most certainly not a “she.” No, I never asked if he came with the car, but I did challenge him to explain the 5.0’s tempting cylinder head design. And while he never said anything quotable, the look on his face was picture perfect: if I told you, I’d have to kill you.
Typical auto show banter between savvy product specialists and bored car hacks? Perhaps. But the fact remains, nobody should buy a Mustang GT until that casting bump turns into a hole for a fuel injector. But what’s the big deal?
Direct fuel injection, as opposed to (intake) port fuel injection, is the latest technology in the advancement of the internal combustion engine. It’s one of many advancements that proves the piston engine gets better with age, and beats the dubious “Moore’s Law” argument of Tesla fans. And the proof is already on the street: owners of late model diesels, EcoBoost Fords several GM products like the Cadillac CTS already know the drill: direct injection gives more power, more economy and lower emissions with zero changes to the driving experience. It is the textbook definition of having your cake and eating it too.
Geek Alert! Let’s get detailed: a port fuel injection vehicle has the fuel injector placed in the intake manifold, usually at the end of the runner, behind the intake valve. Direct Injection places the injector in the red circle from the picture above: so there’s no more mixing of air and fuel in the intake. The benefit is simple: injecting the fuel at a very high pressure (2000psi, compared to 10-60 psi) directly into the combustion chamber produces a cooling charge. Much to the joy of mechanical engineers everywhere, “cold” fuel gets shot into a hot combustion chamber: Thermodynamics wins. This helps reduce engine knock, so higher ignition timing and/or compression ratios can be implemented. Just like sane doses of Nitrous Oxide on a motor, the extra cooling charge afforded by Direct Injection is a huge win by itself.
The doubters might mention the Jaguar XF makes “only” 385 horses with its direct injected 5.0L mill, which is less than the current Mustang’s 412 ponies. But both 5.0s come from different engine families. And when you consider the Jag’s power bump from port to direct injection, the improvement is real.
Even if my theory is correct, there’s no guarantee that the direct injected Mustang shall be any more powerful than the current model. Ford can pull a fast one: de-tuning the direct injected 5.0 for a multitude of reasons. Thanks to drive-by-wire and traction control nannies, the direct injected 5.0 can easily give 80% of a day’s work and nobody will notice. Considering damn near every vehicle today has power robbing torque management built into its DNA, why would Ford up the Mustang to its full potential?
Go back to 1986: the year that port fuel injection (@200hp/285tq) took the 5.0’s game to refined places the Holley four-barrel (@210hp/270tq) of 1985 couldn’t even imagine. Torque went up, but the 1986 Mustang lost 5% in peak horsepower. Cue the modestly-redesigned 1987 Mustang: a quickie head swap to ye olde F-150 parts turned the Mustang’s EFI 5.0 (@225hp/300tq) into the real deal. That’s a healthy 7 and 11% increase in hp/tq over 1985’s tried and true Holley carburetor. All of which signaled the end to our fascination with glorified toilet bowls on engines. For the better!
Imagine if the direct injected 5.0 pulls a “1987” on us: the 412hp/390tq we see today will be nothing compared to the 441hp/433tq of our near future. It’s entirely possible. But will history repeat itself? Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
05-18-2011, 05:36 PM
#1053
Sneaky bastards. I'm sure they're working on implementing direct injection as we speak. Anyone know if the new 3.7 V6 has direct injection? Probably won't see it for another 3 years on the GT though.
07-19-2011, 02:45 PM
#1054
Senior Moderator
2012 Ford Mustang GT Blue Angels Edition
Press release...
The engineering and design teams at Ford Motor Company have produced a truly unique “Blue Angels” edition 2012 Ford Mustang GT. This one-of-a-kind vehicle will be sold at the Gathering of Eagles charity auction July 28, during the Experimental Aircraft Association (EAA) 2011 AirVenture Oshkosh, the world’s greatest aviation celebration.
All proceeds from the car donation and sale will benefit the EAA Young Eagles organization, which has provided free introductory flights to more than 1.6 million young people since 1992 while also teaching the value of hard work, personal responsibility and enhanced math and science skills.
Ford is the exclusive automotive partner of EAA AirVenture Oshkosh, held July 25-31 at Wittman Regional Airport in Oshkosh, Wis.
“The precision, discipline and excitement that define the U.S. Navy’s Blue Angels flight team are qualities we celebrate at Ford,” said Edsel B. Ford II, a member of Ford’s board of directors. “With this year’s beautiful ‘Blue Angels’ edition Mustang GT, we’ve captured those qualities and paired them with the innovation Ford design and engineering team members build into all of our vehicles. Through this project, we take great pride in continuing our support for EAA and the Young Eagles organization.”
The Ford “Blue Angels” Mustang pays tribute to 100 years of naval aviation, which will be celebrated all week at AirVenture 2011 as part of the show’s Tier 1 event status from the U.S. Navy tied to its yearlong Centennial of Naval Aviation festivities. The car will be on display inside the Ford Hangar throughout EAA AirVenture.
The exterior of Ford’s “Blue Angels” Mustang GT was inspired by the acclaimed naval aviation performance demonstration team and the F-18 Hornet aircraft it flies. The car’s custom rear spoiler’s vertical tailfins, the “screaming yellow” gloss accents, inclusion of the Blue Angels script and crest all are drawn from the Navy aircraft. The unique chrome blue paint, courtesy of Creations n’ Chrome, is unlike anything available on a production vehicle anywhere in the world.
With the Blue Angels crest stitched into its leather Recaro racing seats, the car’s interior also features offset stripes inspired by pilot flight suits.
Additional unique details of the “Blue Angels” Mustang include cluster graphics, performance gauges, navigation screen images, safety belt fabric, instrument panel appliqués, rear seat-delete and cross-brace, Blue Angels script in the illuminated sill plates and puddle lamps that project jet images when the doors open.
Under the hood, the “Blue Angels” Mustang is all performance with a Ford Racing supercharged 5.0-liter V8 engine producing 624 horsepower. The Ford Racing components also include a handling pack, performance exhaust and racetrack brakes.
Mustang Chief Designer Darrell Behmer, Design Manager Melvin Betancourt and Chief Nameplate Engineer Dave Pericak lead the design and engineering teams that developed the “Blue Angels” Mustang.
The Young Eagles Auction is part of the EAA Gathering of Eagles at the EAA AirVenture Museum. The Gathering of Eagles annually draws more than 1,000 aviation enthusiasts in support of Young Eagles and other EAA programs that inspire young people to become engineers, aviators, astronauts, scientists and innovators – the aviation pioneers of tomorrow.
“Ford is a longtime supporter of EAA and our mission to showcase the finest innovation and technology in flight,” said Tom Poberezny, EAA chairman/president and AirVenture chairman. “The high interest among aviators in the U.S. Navy and the ‘Blue Angels’ Mustang team will make this a very sought-after item and ensure EAA’s ability to do some amazing things for our future aviation enthusiasts.”
The “Blue Angels” edition joins three other one-of-a-kind Mustangs created by the Ford design and engineering teams for the EAA Young Eagles Auction in recent years, each generating excitement among aviation and automotive enthusiasts alike. Ford vehicles sold at auction during past EAA AirVenture events have collectively raised more than $1.3 million to support Young Eagles.
Other unique vehicles produced by Ford in support of EAA Young Eagles include the Mustang AV8R, with cues from the F-22 “Raptor,” which in 2008 helped introduce the glass-roof canopy and delivered a record auction contribution of $500,000. In 2009, Ford’s AV-X10 “Dearborn Doll” Mustang was crafted in honor of World War II aircraft. In 2010, two automotive icons – Carroll Shelby, formerly a U.S. Air Force flight instructor, and Jack Roush, a longtime P-51 pilot – collaborated for the first time to create the SR-71 “Blackbird” Mustang inspired by the legendary reconnaissance jet.
During EAA AirVenture, Ford also will offer attendees access to the latest advances in automobile technology at the Ford Hangar, as well as many of the industry’s most revered classics at the popular Cruisin’ Legends area on the grounds of Wittman Regional Airport. Ford activities include top-tier entertainment and interactive components that will add excitement for the hundreds of thousands of aviation fans in attendance.
To participate in the auction, candidates must prequalify by contacting Matt Miller in the EAA Development Office at (800) 236-1025 or by email, mmiller@eaa.org, by July 25. Visit www.AirVenture.org/gathering for more information.
To stay connected to all Ford EAA AirVenture news, connect with the Ford EAA AirVenture team on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/FordAirventure or visit http://www.FordAirventure.com.
For more information on EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2011, visit http://www.AirVenture.org.
All proceeds from the car donation and sale will benefit the EAA Young Eagles organization, which has provided free introductory flights to more than 1.6 million young people since 1992 while also teaching the value of hard work, personal responsibility and enhanced math and science skills.
Ford is the exclusive automotive partner of EAA AirVenture Oshkosh, held July 25-31 at Wittman Regional Airport in Oshkosh, Wis.
“The precision, discipline and excitement that define the U.S. Navy’s Blue Angels flight team are qualities we celebrate at Ford,” said Edsel B. Ford II, a member of Ford’s board of directors. “With this year’s beautiful ‘Blue Angels’ edition Mustang GT, we’ve captured those qualities and paired them with the innovation Ford design and engineering team members build into all of our vehicles. Through this project, we take great pride in continuing our support for EAA and the Young Eagles organization.”
The Ford “Blue Angels” Mustang pays tribute to 100 years of naval aviation, which will be celebrated all week at AirVenture 2011 as part of the show’s Tier 1 event status from the U.S. Navy tied to its yearlong Centennial of Naval Aviation festivities. The car will be on display inside the Ford Hangar throughout EAA AirVenture.
The exterior of Ford’s “Blue Angels” Mustang GT was inspired by the acclaimed naval aviation performance demonstration team and the F-18 Hornet aircraft it flies. The car’s custom rear spoiler’s vertical tailfins, the “screaming yellow” gloss accents, inclusion of the Blue Angels script and crest all are drawn from the Navy aircraft. The unique chrome blue paint, courtesy of Creations n’ Chrome, is unlike anything available on a production vehicle anywhere in the world.
With the Blue Angels crest stitched into its leather Recaro racing seats, the car’s interior also features offset stripes inspired by pilot flight suits.
Additional unique details of the “Blue Angels” Mustang include cluster graphics, performance gauges, navigation screen images, safety belt fabric, instrument panel appliqués, rear seat-delete and cross-brace, Blue Angels script in the illuminated sill plates and puddle lamps that project jet images when the doors open.
Under the hood, the “Blue Angels” Mustang is all performance with a Ford Racing supercharged 5.0-liter V8 engine producing 624 horsepower. The Ford Racing components also include a handling pack, performance exhaust and racetrack brakes.
Mustang Chief Designer Darrell Behmer, Design Manager Melvin Betancourt and Chief Nameplate Engineer Dave Pericak lead the design and engineering teams that developed the “Blue Angels” Mustang.
The Young Eagles Auction is part of the EAA Gathering of Eagles at the EAA AirVenture Museum. The Gathering of Eagles annually draws more than 1,000 aviation enthusiasts in support of Young Eagles and other EAA programs that inspire young people to become engineers, aviators, astronauts, scientists and innovators – the aviation pioneers of tomorrow.
“Ford is a longtime supporter of EAA and our mission to showcase the finest innovation and technology in flight,” said Tom Poberezny, EAA chairman/president and AirVenture chairman. “The high interest among aviators in the U.S. Navy and the ‘Blue Angels’ Mustang team will make this a very sought-after item and ensure EAA’s ability to do some amazing things for our future aviation enthusiasts.”
The “Blue Angels” edition joins three other one-of-a-kind Mustangs created by the Ford design and engineering teams for the EAA Young Eagles Auction in recent years, each generating excitement among aviation and automotive enthusiasts alike. Ford vehicles sold at auction during past EAA AirVenture events have collectively raised more than $1.3 million to support Young Eagles.
Other unique vehicles produced by Ford in support of EAA Young Eagles include the Mustang AV8R, with cues from the F-22 “Raptor,” which in 2008 helped introduce the glass-roof canopy and delivered a record auction contribution of $500,000. In 2009, Ford’s AV-X10 “Dearborn Doll” Mustang was crafted in honor of World War II aircraft. In 2010, two automotive icons – Carroll Shelby, formerly a U.S. Air Force flight instructor, and Jack Roush, a longtime P-51 pilot – collaborated for the first time to create the SR-71 “Blackbird” Mustang inspired by the legendary reconnaissance jet.
During EAA AirVenture, Ford also will offer attendees access to the latest advances in automobile technology at the Ford Hangar, as well as many of the industry’s most revered classics at the popular Cruisin’ Legends area on the grounds of Wittman Regional Airport. Ford activities include top-tier entertainment and interactive components that will add excitement for the hundreds of thousands of aviation fans in attendance.
To participate in the auction, candidates must prequalify by contacting Matt Miller in the EAA Development Office at (800) 236-1025 or by email, mmiller@eaa.org, by July 25. Visit www.AirVenture.org/gathering for more information.
To stay connected to all Ford EAA AirVenture news, connect with the Ford EAA AirVenture team on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/FordAirventure or visit http://www.FordAirventure.com.
For more information on EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2011, visit http://www.AirVenture.org.
07-19-2011, 02:46 PM
#1055
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07-19-2011, 03:11 PM
#1057
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^^^That Blue Angels edition is one GORGEOUS collector car. That thing should be garaged and cleaned with a cloth diaper daily.
07-20-2011, 02:52 PM
#1058
Team Owner
whatsup with all these "editions"
i have been watching a lot of HD theater lately (with all the old muscle car auctions and restoration).. it seems like back in the days, the "Edition" actually means something. Now it is just pure marketing.
i have been watching a lot of HD theater lately (with all the old muscle car auctions and restoration).. it seems like back in the days, the "Edition" actually means something. Now it is just pure marketing.
07-20-2011, 04:21 PM
#1059
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ I like the "editions"
I don't understand your issue with them....an "edition" means it's different than another....and these editions are clearly different from each.
I don't understand your issue with them....an "edition" means it's different than another....and these editions are clearly different from each.
07-20-2011, 05:03 PM
#1061
I drive a Subata.
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And this one looks pretty damn good imo, so it works.
07-20-2011, 06:14 PM
#1062
Never been a big mustang guy and I actually owned one. 89' with a supercharger and some other support mods (clutch, transmission, blah blah blah). I hated it. Fast in one direction, even still though my 69 C-10 pickup was faster (396, 6 barrel carb, some other engine work). Neither handled well at all.
I'd rather get a new grand sport or z06 if I had choose between american muscle. Lotus Evora S 2+0 or GTR would be my ideal picks though if I were spending anything more than 30k. I like to stand out just as much as I like to drive spirited, mustangs do not stand out and are usually a dime a dozen in the south.
I'd rather get a new grand sport or z06 if I had choose between american muscle. Lotus Evora S 2+0 or GTR would be my ideal picks though if I were spending anything more than 30k. I like to stand out just as much as I like to drive spirited, mustangs do not stand out and are usually a dime a dozen in the south.
07-20-2011, 09:10 PM
#1063
You'll be spending a hell of a lot more than 30k for a GT-R or Evora S. Same goes for even a base Corvette coupe. A fully loaded 5.0 doesn't even come close to what those cars cost, and even comes with unnecessary options that the aforementioned cars don't even offer.
The next response will be "yeah, but they'll be used and cost a lot less" well, I'm pretty sure you can get a used Mustang as well. The 2011+ Mustangs are entirely different animals, even more different from the 05-10s which had a marked improvement in handling.... let alone compare them with the ancient-by-comparison Fox bodies. Foxes would never even dream of being able to hang with M3s, especially in stock form.
Maybe in the south Mustangs are a dime a dozen but the new ones still look great to me when I see them on the street. When I see a GT-R I almost want to scoff. I'm more impressed by a new Kia than the GT-R, if only because when I see a car I don't see the spec sheet.
The next response will be "yeah, but they'll be used and cost a lot less" well, I'm pretty sure you can get a used Mustang as well. The 2011+ Mustangs are entirely different animals, even more different from the 05-10s which had a marked improvement in handling.... let alone compare them with the ancient-by-comparison Fox bodies. Foxes would never even dream of being able to hang with M3s, especially in stock form.
Maybe in the south Mustangs are a dime a dozen but the new ones still look great to me when I see them on the street. When I see a GT-R I almost want to scoff. I'm more impressed by a new Kia than the GT-R, if only because when I see a car I don't see the spec sheet.
07-20-2011, 09:22 PM
#1064
^Lol.. this guy and his vendetta against the GTR..
07-20-2011, 09:25 PM
#1065
I drive a Subata.
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Totally OT, I find GT-Rs to be freaking hot, especially in person.
But, everyone has different tastes, so yeah.
But, everyone has different tastes, so yeah.
07-20-2011, 09:47 PM
#1066
says the guy that made a thread directed at someone when said person made a barely off-color comment towards him. lolumad?The GT-R just looks uninspired, plain, and just looks bad from all but the perfect angles. I've been close enough to touch it multiple times... it has failed to grow on me. A car's styling is one of the few areas where I think form > function and Nissan just botched it up.
This is coming from someone who raced mostly with R32, R33 and R34 GTRs in basically every racing game they were available in (like Gran Turismo 1-4). If anything, I'm a Skyline fanboy.
The only good side of the car is the rear. But, that's my
07-20-2011, 11:07 PM
#1067
It wasn't directed at anyone! You'd think a place named Ramblings would to allow people to share their feelings..
Last edited by MTEAZY; 07-20-2011 at 11:11 PM.
07-21-2011, 12:10 AM
#1068
אני עומד עם ישראל
^ your tampon is shoved way high isn't it?
07-21-2011, 12:22 AM
#1069
You must have a low self esteem that's why you keep on hatin on me
07-21-2011, 12:23 AM
#1070
אני עומד עם ישראל
you must have seriously thin skin. man up and don't lose any sleep over this tonight.
07-21-2011, 11:03 AM
#1071
You'll be spending a hell of a lot more than 30k for a GT-R or Evora S. Same goes for even a base Corvette coupe. A fully loaded 5.0 doesn't even come close to what those cars cost, and even comes with unnecessary options that the aforementioned cars don't even offer.
The next response will be "yeah, but they'll be used and cost a lot less" well, I'm pretty sure you can get a used Mustang as well. The 2011+ Mustangs are entirely different animals, even more different from the 05-10s which had a marked improvement in handling.... let alone compare them with the ancient-by-comparison Fox bodies. Foxes would never even dream of being able to hang with M3s, especially in stock form.
Maybe in the south Mustangs are a dime a dozen but the new ones still look great to me when I see them on the street. When I see a GT-R I almost want to scoff. I'm more impressed by a new Kia than the GT-R, if only because when I see a car I don't see the spec sheet.
The next response will be "yeah, but they'll be used and cost a lot less" well, I'm pretty sure you can get a used Mustang as well. The 2011+ Mustangs are entirely different animals, even more different from the 05-10s which had a marked improvement in handling.... let alone compare them with the ancient-by-comparison Fox bodies. Foxes would never even dream of being able to hang with M3s, especially in stock form.
Maybe in the south Mustangs are a dime a dozen but the new ones still look great to me when I see them on the street. When I see a GT-R I almost want to scoff. I'm more impressed by a new Kia than the GT-R, if only because when I see a car I don't see the spec sheet.
Thinking it looks better than the gtr is your opinion, I expressed mine.
30k for a HIGH 11's car is good, but still it doesn't stand out in anyway on the street, which I already said is more important to me than raw 1/4 mile times. To me, and my opinion, which you don't have to agree with, the mustang looks as impressive as a 96' bonneville. In fact I don't care for any of the retro looking vehicles.
The only thing I will admit to liking about this car, or any other V8 performance tuned mustang, is the exhaust note.
07-21-2011, 11:51 PM
#1072
Thinking it looks better than the gtr is your opinion, I expressed mine.
30k for a HIGH 11's car is good, but still it doesn't stand out in anyway on the street, which I already said is more important to me than raw 1/4 mile times. To me, and my opinion, which you don't have to agree with, the mustang looks as impressive as a 96' bonneville. In fact I don't care for any of the retro looking vehicles.
The only thing I will admit to liking about this car, or any other V8 performance tuned mustang, is the exhaust note.
30k for a HIGH 11's car is good, but still it doesn't stand out in anyway on the street, which I already said is more important to me than raw 1/4 mile times. To me, and my opinion, which you don't have to agree with, the mustang looks as impressive as a 96' bonneville. In fact I don't care for any of the retro looking vehicles.
The only thing I will admit to liking about this car, or any other V8 performance tuned mustang, is the exhaust note.
except for that last part.The straight line performance of Mustangs was always there, at least through the aftermarket. That aspect interests me, but the other things it brings to the table were unavailable in previous Mustang GTs. You could probably build a 5.0 to be faster than a GT-R for half the price as well. Does that impress me? Not really.
07-22-2011, 06:09 PM
#1073
07-25-2011, 02:24 PM
#1074
Three Wheelin'
"One of a kind" + increasing mpg regulations + increasing fuel prices = this baby is a collector's item.
Ford has done so well with creating special editions of the Mustang and keeping it fresh. And for some reason, Ford is the only manufacturer that could pull of a "Blue Angels Edition" vehicle. Maybe a CORVETTE, but it just flows better with the Blue Oval...
Ford has done so well with creating special editions of the Mustang and keeping it fresh. And for some reason, Ford is the only manufacturer that could pull of a "Blue Angels Edition" vehicle. Maybe a CORVETTE, but it just flows better with the Blue Oval...
10-12-2011, 06:51 PM
#1075
Senior Moderator
2012 Ford Mustang
Press release...
• The 2012 Ford Mustang offers selectable steering with three settings, including a sport mode designed so the driver can be more in tune with how the car reacts to the road
• Mustang V6 is not only the most fuel-efficient Mustang ever, but also the first production car in history to deliver the combination of more than 300 horsepower and more than 30 mpg on the highway
• The 2012 Ford Mustang GT, powered by a 412-horsepower 5.0-liter V8 engine, has an EPA rating of 26 mpg highway when equipped with the six-speed manual transmission
For 2012, Ford Mustang’s American style is combined with powerful engines delivering outstanding fuel economy across the lineup. It also puts the driving experience in the customer’s hands with new selectable steering.
“Mustang made a statement last year with the new engines and improved fuel economy,” said Jim Owens, Mustang marketing manager. “This year, we are giving our customers features that put them more in control of their driving experience and expand their storage options in the visor.”
The 2012 Mustang offers customers selectable steering that tailors the driving experience to fit their needs. With a choice of three settings, the feature allows the customer to select the steering effort, depending on his or her style of driving.
Sport mode provides the most road force felt through the steering wheel and requires the highest level of steering effort, allowing the driver to be more in tune with how the vehicle reacts to the road. Comfort mode provides the least amount of road force felt through the steering wheel and requires the least amount of steering effort, which is ideal for long, relaxing drives.
A standard mode also is available and is a balance between the comfort and sport settings. The settings are accessed and programmed through the message center.
Also new for 2012 are illuminated dual visor vanity mirrors, a universal garage door opener and multipurpose sun visor storage. A new color, Lava Red Metallic, also is available in limited quantities. It comes with a unique Lava Red with black interior and Lava Red color-keyed door and seat inserts.
Two new optional packages, the Reverse Sensing System and Security Package and HID Headlamps and Security Package, also debut for 2012.
Powerful and fuel-efficient
The Mustang V6 is not only the most fuel-efficient Mustang ever, but also the first production car in history to produce 305 horsepower and 31 mpg on the highway, a combination no other car can match. Fuel economy figures for the Mustang V6 are:
• 19 mpg city and 31 mpg highway with six-speed automatic transmission, a 30 percent improvement from the 2010 model on the highway
• 19 mpg city and 29 mpg highway with six-speed manual transmission
Refinements throughout Mustang’s body, powertrain and chassis design contribute to the improved fuel economy numbers. Examples include:
• The new EPAS system, which eliminates the drag of an engine-operated hydraulic power steering pump
• Six-speed transmissions that allow lower cruising revs without sacrificing off-the-line performance
• Aerodynamic improvements such as a new front fascia, a taller air dam and added rear decklid seal
The 2012 Ford Mustang GT, powered by a 412-horsepower 5.0-liter V8 engine, achieves an EPA rating of 26 mpg on the highway when equipped with the six-speed manual transmission, giving it the best fuel economy in its class.
With the six-speed manual, the Mustang GT coupe is rated at 17 mpg city and 26 mpg highway, while models with the available six-speed automatic achieve 18 mpg city and 25 mpg highway.
Mustang GT is powered by an all-new 5.0-liter DOHC V8 with a host of advanced features to deliver the combination of power and class-leading fuel economy.
Twin independent variable camshaft timing (Ti-VCT) adjusts the valvetrain in microseconds depending on driver inputs. A carefully tuned intake and exhaust system ensures free breathing at all engine speeds. And all-aluminum construction results in a lightweight yet durable engine.
Quality fit and structure
Additional lightweight soundproofing helps filter unpleasant noises, while a tuned intake and dual exhaust add the sounds Mustang buyers relish. Occupants also benefit from new door seals and a rear wheel arch liner that reduce road noise for a quieter, more enjoyable drive.
A one-piece instrument panel is designed to further improve interior sound quality.
The convertible model features enhanced structural rigidity, with lateral stiffness improved by 12 percent versus the 2010 model.
Taking convenience and safety one step further
State-of-the-art technology adds to the convenience and safety of the 2012 Mustang, from the availability of Ford SYNC®, with applications such as Traffic, Directions and Information, 911 Assist™ and Vehicle Health Report, to standard AdvanceTrac® electronic stability control, which complements the all-speed traction control and standard ABS.
Additional standard safety equipment includes the Personal Safety System™, which features dual-stage driver and front passenger airbags, seat belt pretensioners and Belt-Minder®.
Ford’s MyKey® system, designed to encourage safer teen driving and safety belt use, also is available on Mustang. MyKey allows owners to program the vehicle key using the driver’s message center to incorporate features such as limited top vehicle speed and audio volume, a traction control system that cannot be deactivated, persistent Belt-Minder and various speed alert chimes.
Production location
The 2012 Ford Mustang is built at the AutoAlliance International Plant in Flat Rock, Mich.
• Mustang V6 is not only the most fuel-efficient Mustang ever, but also the first production car in history to deliver the combination of more than 300 horsepower and more than 30 mpg on the highway
• The 2012 Ford Mustang GT, powered by a 412-horsepower 5.0-liter V8 engine, has an EPA rating of 26 mpg highway when equipped with the six-speed manual transmission
For 2012, Ford Mustang’s American style is combined with powerful engines delivering outstanding fuel economy across the lineup. It also puts the driving experience in the customer’s hands with new selectable steering.
“Mustang made a statement last year with the new engines and improved fuel economy,” said Jim Owens, Mustang marketing manager. “This year, we are giving our customers features that put them more in control of their driving experience and expand their storage options in the visor.”
The 2012 Mustang offers customers selectable steering that tailors the driving experience to fit their needs. With a choice of three settings, the feature allows the customer to select the steering effort, depending on his or her style of driving.
Sport mode provides the most road force felt through the steering wheel and requires the highest level of steering effort, allowing the driver to be more in tune with how the vehicle reacts to the road. Comfort mode provides the least amount of road force felt through the steering wheel and requires the least amount of steering effort, which is ideal for long, relaxing drives.
A standard mode also is available and is a balance between the comfort and sport settings. The settings are accessed and programmed through the message center.
Also new for 2012 are illuminated dual visor vanity mirrors, a universal garage door opener and multipurpose sun visor storage. A new color, Lava Red Metallic, also is available in limited quantities. It comes with a unique Lava Red with black interior and Lava Red color-keyed door and seat inserts.
Two new optional packages, the Reverse Sensing System and Security Package and HID Headlamps and Security Package, also debut for 2012.
Powerful and fuel-efficient
The Mustang V6 is not only the most fuel-efficient Mustang ever, but also the first production car in history to produce 305 horsepower and 31 mpg on the highway, a combination no other car can match. Fuel economy figures for the Mustang V6 are:
• 19 mpg city and 31 mpg highway with six-speed automatic transmission, a 30 percent improvement from the 2010 model on the highway
• 19 mpg city and 29 mpg highway with six-speed manual transmission
Refinements throughout Mustang’s body, powertrain and chassis design contribute to the improved fuel economy numbers. Examples include:
• The new EPAS system, which eliminates the drag of an engine-operated hydraulic power steering pump
• Six-speed transmissions that allow lower cruising revs without sacrificing off-the-line performance
• Aerodynamic improvements such as a new front fascia, a taller air dam and added rear decklid seal
The 2012 Ford Mustang GT, powered by a 412-horsepower 5.0-liter V8 engine, achieves an EPA rating of 26 mpg on the highway when equipped with the six-speed manual transmission, giving it the best fuel economy in its class.
With the six-speed manual, the Mustang GT coupe is rated at 17 mpg city and 26 mpg highway, while models with the available six-speed automatic achieve 18 mpg city and 25 mpg highway.
Mustang GT is powered by an all-new 5.0-liter DOHC V8 with a host of advanced features to deliver the combination of power and class-leading fuel economy.
Twin independent variable camshaft timing (Ti-VCT) adjusts the valvetrain in microseconds depending on driver inputs. A carefully tuned intake and exhaust system ensures free breathing at all engine speeds. And all-aluminum construction results in a lightweight yet durable engine.
Quality fit and structure
Additional lightweight soundproofing helps filter unpleasant noises, while a tuned intake and dual exhaust add the sounds Mustang buyers relish. Occupants also benefit from new door seals and a rear wheel arch liner that reduce road noise for a quieter, more enjoyable drive.
A one-piece instrument panel is designed to further improve interior sound quality.
The convertible model features enhanced structural rigidity, with lateral stiffness improved by 12 percent versus the 2010 model.
Taking convenience and safety one step further
State-of-the-art technology adds to the convenience and safety of the 2012 Mustang, from the availability of Ford SYNC®, with applications such as Traffic, Directions and Information, 911 Assist™ and Vehicle Health Report, to standard AdvanceTrac® electronic stability control, which complements the all-speed traction control and standard ABS.
Additional standard safety equipment includes the Personal Safety System™, which features dual-stage driver and front passenger airbags, seat belt pretensioners and Belt-Minder®.
Ford’s MyKey® system, designed to encourage safer teen driving and safety belt use, also is available on Mustang. MyKey allows owners to program the vehicle key using the driver’s message center to incorporate features such as limited top vehicle speed and audio volume, a traction control system that cannot be deactivated, persistent Belt-Minder and various speed alert chimes.
Production location
The 2012 Ford Mustang is built at the AutoAlliance International Plant in Flat Rock, Mich.
10-12-2011, 06:53 PM
#1076
Senior Moderator
10-12-2011, 06:56 PM
#1077
I drive a Subata.
iTrader: (1)
I loved the car for a long time. But did they address the transmission issue already? Maybe I missed it?
10-13-2011, 06:29 AM
#1078
My first Avatar....
10-13-2011, 12:30 PM
#1080
I drive a Subata.
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