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#923
Senior Moderator
#927
I drive a Subata.
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OMG i love it. if i didn't buy my ms3 just 6 months ago, this GT would have been my car.
i don't really care about the center console, so that's a good thing.
my friend had 06 Mustang GT and seem like the interior really didn't change much since then.
i don't really care about the center console, so that's a good thing.
my friend had 06 Mustang GT and seem like the interior really didn't change much since then.
#930
TQ > MPG
God, you really dont get it, do you?
395rwhp is STOUT.
For what its worth, the 425hp Camaro SS has dyno'd 365hp/370tq, and the Mustang is rated 13hp LESS.
I'll be really curious to see what kind of 1/4 times they pull, because a dyno number is just a number.
395rwhp is STOUT.
For what its worth, the 425hp Camaro SS has dyno'd 365hp/370tq, and the Mustang is rated 13hp LESS.
I'll be really curious to see what kind of 1/4 times they pull, because a dyno number is just a number.
#932
I'll be too busy watching the road get eaten up in front of me as I rip off a shift to notice my center console.... It is pretty boring looking, but at least there's nothing in the Mustang interior as offensive as the 2010 Camaro's steering wheel and door panels
Pretty sure the LS3 will still respond better to bolt-ons. IIRC an LS3 will hit 450rwhp with just bolt-ons and a tune. A cam on top of that will bring it up to 500.
I'm guessing someone will be able to pull off a 12.6 with the stock 5.0, street tires.
though I really can't decide what color I'd want. Black looks great, but I'm scared of maintaining a black car... I'm lazy enough as it is. Bright red looks sweet of course.... and so does navy blue.... but I also love mineral grey.... arg
Pretty sure the LS3 will still respond better to bolt-ons. IIRC an LS3 will hit 450rwhp with just bolt-ons and a tune. A cam on top of that will bring it up to 500.
I'm guessing someone will be able to pull off a 12.6 with the stock 5.0, street tires.
though I really can't decide what color I'd want. Black looks great, but I'm scared of maintaining a black car... I'm lazy enough as it is. Bright red looks sweet of course.... and so does navy blue.... but I also love mineral grey.... arg
#933
Senior Moderator
Geez this review of the 5.0 got me all giddy over it. I might want a test drive!
First Drive: 2011 Ford Mustang GT changes the game
by Jonny Lieberman (RSS feed) on Mar 29th 2010 at 12:05AM
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The reborn 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS is the 2010 Ford Mustang GT's most obvious competitor (obviously). While the Camaro is certainly a head turner, it's just not that great of an all around performance car. However, despite the 2010 Mustang GT coming out on top in many comparisons against its crosstown rival, one fact is undeniable: When it comes to power, the Camaro SS kicked the Mustang GT's butt up and down the block. Across the drag strip, too. The 6.2-liter LS3-equipped SS (manual only, as automatic Camaros get the weaker L99 motor) produces a screaming 426 horsepower and 420 rumbling pound-feet of torque, enough mojo to embarrass the 2010 Mustang GT's relatively wimpy 4.6-liter V8 with its 315 hp and 325 lb-ft of torque. True, the Mustang handled better, rode better, had a much better interior and cost less, but at the end of the day we're talking muscle cars. Gumption matters. Chevy was king. Ford had to act.
And act it did. Meet the 2011 Ford Mustang GT, or as everyone is already calling it, the 5.0. That's right, Ford is offering enthusiasts an honest to goodness 5.0-liter V8 (302 cubic inches, baby! Check out our Deep Dive for all the technical mumbo jumbo) in the 2011 Mustang GT. As we're sure you know by now, thanks to some fancy breathing, the all new small-block produces 412 hp and 390 lb-ft of torque. That's less than the Camaro, sure, but remember that the Mustang is lighter than the Chevy by a good 300 pounds. Besides, it's looking like Ford has decided to underrate the 5.0's output by about 30 ponies for who knows what reason. Meaning that while Ford might be using invisible ink, the Mustang's got the Camaro beat on paper. But what about in the real world? Make the jump to find out.
Gallery: First Drive: 2011 Ford Mustang GT
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<small>Photos by Drew Phillips / </small><small>Copyright ©2010</small><small> Weblogs, Inc.</small>
While the new 2011 Ford Mustang V6 is a good car, the 5.0 is great. In a single model year, Ford has manged to address all of the 2010 Mustang GT's shortcomings. Besides the brand spanking new motor (which really is the big story), the Blue Oval boys made a number of other changes. It's going to take a well trained eye to spot any visual differences between the 2010 and 2011 models, but there are differences. First off, the aluminum pony in the grill has been lightened a shade. In addition, the front and rear fascias are slightly tweaked. There's a new lower spoiler and air dam up front and the rear wheels now have tire spats. All of the exterior changes plus an underbody aeroshield add up to a four-percent more aerodynamic car, and help this 412-hp brute achieve a very respectable 26 mpg on the highway. Also, let's not forget the big, shiny 5.0 badges. A1A Beach Front Avenue has been put on notice!
Changes you can't see include a whole host of NVH improvements, namely rear wheel liners, eight sound absorbers and hood liner insulation that all add up to a surprisingly quiet vehicle. Some might say too quiet as you can't hear the 5.0 burble, but we'll disagree. Overhead cam engines don't really burble the way cam-in-block mills do anyway. Put it this way, day-to-day livability has been greatly increased. Besides, once you open the V8's taps, the cabin is quickly filled with the sort of soundtrack that gearheads dream about. Ford has retained the 2010 Mustang GT's sound resonators, and the noise is even more blissful in 2011. In fact, above 3,500 rpm you're treated to a very finely balanced stereo mix of induction and exhaust noise. Trust us, you'll love it once you get on it.
Speaking of getting on it, the 7,000 rpm redline begs you to do just that. An all-new six-speed (finally!) manual further encourages you to bash the motor all you like. There's also a new six-speed automatic that's okay (though it does lack paddle shifters), but we spent exactly 17.5 seconds driving the auto version (that's two blasts down an eighth-mile drag strip), so you'll need to do your own research if you're not interested in rowing your own. If you are, the new six-speed manual is pretty good, though we'd prefer a short-throw kit. We also had occasional trouble coming down into second and/or fourth. We suspect this is mostly due to the shift lever's long throw, which again would be fixed by a short throw kit. That said, the new transmission doesn't seem to mind abuse.
The same can be said for the brakes. We drove both the stock brake GT and the Brembo-kitted version. As far as the regular brakes go, Ford saw fit to provide a bigger brake booster and for the first time in my car reviewing career, I have nothing negative whatsoever to say about Ford brakes. They're actually pretty good, and the Brembos are that much better. If you spend a lot of time hooning it up on windy canyon roads or at the track, go for the ain't-gonna-fade 14-inch Brembos. If you just like roasting fools at stop lights, the standard brakes are more than fine.
Time to put it all together. I found myself actually saying, "This engine's a pot of honey." Out loud, with another human being in the car. Why would anyone make such a ridiculous statement? Probably because the new motor really is a pot of honey, specifically when you're in fourth gear at 4,000 rpm and you bury the throttle. Turns out that 4,000 rpm is when peak torque (390 lb-ft) happens and the 5.0-liter V8 pulls like a jet airliner. Outside of the GT500 or a very breathed-upon Roush/Saleen, we've never experienced this kind of at-speed acceleration in a Mustang. Very impressive, and more than just impressive, a bit intoxicating. From a standstill, the 5.0 is every bit as superb. We won't be surprised if and when the 2011 Mustang GT breaks into the high 12s running the quarter-mile with a trap in the 112-mph range. Ford went all "no comment" when asked about performance figures, but again we'll speculate that 0-60 mph is probably mid-4s, which is quick by any method of accounting.
Our one serious gripe with the new V6 Mustang was the floaty front end, especially at high speeds. No such gripe with the GT. Not only is the front of the V8 much stiffer than its smaller, lighter sibling, but the entire car has been hardened by 15 percent compared to the 2010 model. Not only does this help handling, but triple-digit stability is impressive, words we thought we'd never type about a run-of-the-mill Mustang GT. But here we are.
Also improved for 2011 is the GT's handling. 2010 was something of a breakout year for the Mustang, as Ford finally committed itself to building a Mustang that goes left and right as well as it goes straight. Not only is the 2011 Mustang GT happy to turn into a corner, once you're flirting around with the apex you won't find yourself making loads of corrections. Put another way, the suspension is able to handle whatever you throw at it, and the steering feel is good enough that you only have to measure and cut once. As far as the never ending live rear end vs. independent suspension argument goes, we're saying the following: The 2011 Ford Mustang GT sports the very best solid rear axle in the world. We'd rather have the best solid axle than a mediocre multi-point rear. Hint, hint, Chevy. 'Nuff said.
The bottom line is this: Ford is done messing around. With the release of the 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 there are no more "Yeah, but..." reasons to buy any other pony car. Only serious Mopar-philes would choose the drastically more expensive and substantially worse Dodge Challenger SRT-8 over the Mustang GT. Aside from looks, we can't think of a single area where the similarly priced but slightly more expensive Chevy Camaro SS beats the Mustang. Speed, handling, soundtrack, brakes, interior (the GT is actually creeping into Audi levels of interior sophistication – look at those seats!), fit and finish – you name it, the Mustang's the superior sports car.
Speaking of Audi, the 5.0 makes the 354-hp S5 look like an overpriced slowpoke. We've driven both cars in anger and the 2011 Mustang GT is not only faster, but is actually rear-wheel drive, not a FWD platform fitted with Quattro all-wheel drive. Want us to go even further? We'd prefer the Mustang GT to a BMW 650i. Sure, the BMW has dash leather and... iDrive. But (again), the GT makes more power (the 650i manages 360 hp), handles better and is quieter unless you're really belting the throttle. Also, Sync's a whole lot better than iDrive, even the much improved new iDrive. Not only that, but the GT's new 5.0-liter V8 engine is in another league than (previous) competitors like the Nissan 370Z and Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8. Getting the point? In 2011, the Mustang GT is the car to beat. Welcome back, 5.0.
by Jonny Lieberman (RSS feed) on Mar 29th 2010 at 12:05AM
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<small>2011 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 – Click above for high-res image gallery</small>
The reborn 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS is the 2010 Ford Mustang GT's most obvious competitor (obviously). While the Camaro is certainly a head turner, it's just not that great of an all around performance car. However, despite the 2010 Mustang GT coming out on top in many comparisons against its crosstown rival, one fact is undeniable: When it comes to power, the Camaro SS kicked the Mustang GT's butt up and down the block. Across the drag strip, too. The 6.2-liter LS3-equipped SS (manual only, as automatic Camaros get the weaker L99 motor) produces a screaming 426 horsepower and 420 rumbling pound-feet of torque, enough mojo to embarrass the 2010 Mustang GT's relatively wimpy 4.6-liter V8 with its 315 hp and 325 lb-ft of torque. True, the Mustang handled better, rode better, had a much better interior and cost less, but at the end of the day we're talking muscle cars. Gumption matters. Chevy was king. Ford had to act.
And act it did. Meet the 2011 Ford Mustang GT, or as everyone is already calling it, the 5.0. That's right, Ford is offering enthusiasts an honest to goodness 5.0-liter V8 (302 cubic inches, baby! Check out our Deep Dive for all the technical mumbo jumbo) in the 2011 Mustang GT. As we're sure you know by now, thanks to some fancy breathing, the all new small-block produces 412 hp and 390 lb-ft of torque. That's less than the Camaro, sure, but remember that the Mustang is lighter than the Chevy by a good 300 pounds. Besides, it's looking like Ford has decided to underrate the 5.0's output by about 30 ponies for who knows what reason. Meaning that while Ford might be using invisible ink, the Mustang's got the Camaro beat on paper. But what about in the real world? Make the jump to find out.
Gallery: First Drive: 2011 Ford Mustang GT
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<small>Photos by Drew Phillips / </small><small>Copyright ©2010</small><small> Weblogs, Inc.</small>
While the new 2011 Ford Mustang V6 is a good car, the 5.0 is great. In a single model year, Ford has manged to address all of the 2010 Mustang GT's shortcomings. Besides the brand spanking new motor (which really is the big story), the Blue Oval boys made a number of other changes. It's going to take a well trained eye to spot any visual differences between the 2010 and 2011 models, but there are differences. First off, the aluminum pony in the grill has been lightened a shade. In addition, the front and rear fascias are slightly tweaked. There's a new lower spoiler and air dam up front and the rear wheels now have tire spats. All of the exterior changes plus an underbody aeroshield add up to a four-percent more aerodynamic car, and help this 412-hp brute achieve a very respectable 26 mpg on the highway. Also, let's not forget the big, shiny 5.0 badges. A1A Beach Front Avenue has been put on notice!
Changes you can't see include a whole host of NVH improvements, namely rear wheel liners, eight sound absorbers and hood liner insulation that all add up to a surprisingly quiet vehicle. Some might say too quiet as you can't hear the 5.0 burble, but we'll disagree. Overhead cam engines don't really burble the way cam-in-block mills do anyway. Put it this way, day-to-day livability has been greatly increased. Besides, once you open the V8's taps, the cabin is quickly filled with the sort of soundtrack that gearheads dream about. Ford has retained the 2010 Mustang GT's sound resonators, and the noise is even more blissful in 2011. In fact, above 3,500 rpm you're treated to a very finely balanced stereo mix of induction and exhaust noise. Trust us, you'll love it once you get on it.
Speaking of getting on it, the 7,000 rpm redline begs you to do just that. An all-new six-speed (finally!) manual further encourages you to bash the motor all you like. There's also a new six-speed automatic that's okay (though it does lack paddle shifters), but we spent exactly 17.5 seconds driving the auto version (that's two blasts down an eighth-mile drag strip), so you'll need to do your own research if you're not interested in rowing your own. If you are, the new six-speed manual is pretty good, though we'd prefer a short-throw kit. We also had occasional trouble coming down into second and/or fourth. We suspect this is mostly due to the shift lever's long throw, which again would be fixed by a short throw kit. That said, the new transmission doesn't seem to mind abuse.
The same can be said for the brakes. We drove both the stock brake GT and the Brembo-kitted version. As far as the regular brakes go, Ford saw fit to provide a bigger brake booster and for the first time in my car reviewing career, I have nothing negative whatsoever to say about Ford brakes. They're actually pretty good, and the Brembos are that much better. If you spend a lot of time hooning it up on windy canyon roads or at the track, go for the ain't-gonna-fade 14-inch Brembos. If you just like roasting fools at stop lights, the standard brakes are more than fine.
Time to put it all together. I found myself actually saying, "This engine's a pot of honey." Out loud, with another human being in the car. Why would anyone make such a ridiculous statement? Probably because the new motor really is a pot of honey, specifically when you're in fourth gear at 4,000 rpm and you bury the throttle. Turns out that 4,000 rpm is when peak torque (390 lb-ft) happens and the 5.0-liter V8 pulls like a jet airliner. Outside of the GT500 or a very breathed-upon Roush/Saleen, we've never experienced this kind of at-speed acceleration in a Mustang. Very impressive, and more than just impressive, a bit intoxicating. From a standstill, the 5.0 is every bit as superb. We won't be surprised if and when the 2011 Mustang GT breaks into the high 12s running the quarter-mile with a trap in the 112-mph range. Ford went all "no comment" when asked about performance figures, but again we'll speculate that 0-60 mph is probably mid-4s, which is quick by any method of accounting.
Our one serious gripe with the new V6 Mustang was the floaty front end, especially at high speeds. No such gripe with the GT. Not only is the front of the V8 much stiffer than its smaller, lighter sibling, but the entire car has been hardened by 15 percent compared to the 2010 model. Not only does this help handling, but triple-digit stability is impressive, words we thought we'd never type about a run-of-the-mill Mustang GT. But here we are.
Also improved for 2011 is the GT's handling. 2010 was something of a breakout year for the Mustang, as Ford finally committed itself to building a Mustang that goes left and right as well as it goes straight. Not only is the 2011 Mustang GT happy to turn into a corner, once you're flirting around with the apex you won't find yourself making loads of corrections. Put another way, the suspension is able to handle whatever you throw at it, and the steering feel is good enough that you only have to measure and cut once. As far as the never ending live rear end vs. independent suspension argument goes, we're saying the following: The 2011 Ford Mustang GT sports the very best solid rear axle in the world. We'd rather have the best solid axle than a mediocre multi-point rear. Hint, hint, Chevy. 'Nuff said.
The bottom line is this: Ford is done messing around. With the release of the 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 there are no more "Yeah, but..." reasons to buy any other pony car. Only serious Mopar-philes would choose the drastically more expensive and substantially worse Dodge Challenger SRT-8 over the Mustang GT. Aside from looks, we can't think of a single area where the similarly priced but slightly more expensive Chevy Camaro SS beats the Mustang. Speed, handling, soundtrack, brakes, interior (the GT is actually creeping into Audi levels of interior sophistication – look at those seats!), fit and finish – you name it, the Mustang's the superior sports car.
Speaking of Audi, the 5.0 makes the 354-hp S5 look like an overpriced slowpoke. We've driven both cars in anger and the 2011 Mustang GT is not only faster, but is actually rear-wheel drive, not a FWD platform fitted with Quattro all-wheel drive. Want us to go even further? We'd prefer the Mustang GT to a BMW 650i. Sure, the BMW has dash leather and... iDrive. But (again), the GT makes more power (the 650i manages 360 hp), handles better and is quieter unless you're really belting the throttle. Also, Sync's a whole lot better than iDrive, even the much improved new iDrive. Not only that, but the GT's new 5.0-liter V8 engine is in another league than (previous) competitors like the Nissan 370Z and Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8. Getting the point? In 2011, the Mustang GT is the car to beat. Welcome back, 5.0.
#934
Wait wait wait.. so the 2011 $22k V6 mustang makes the same power and is as fast as my $42k "most powerful acura ever" TL SHAWD? are you F'ing with me?
i know i know, these are cars built for different purposes.. still.. =(
i know i know, these are cars built for different purposes.. still.. =(
#935
Holy.... now I'm hard. Some real bold words in there, mainly towards the end. Reading that article meant everything I'd hoped for though. All this time I thought the hype for the 2010 GT + Track Pack was just that, hype.... but now more and more I'm reading articles praising it left and right. They've added everything I wanted to the GT.
My god. If I don't get my hands on the keys to a 2011 5.0, I will go absolutely crazy. I will miss the burble of a pushrod SBC..... but...........
I still love my car. But even then, the new 5.0 makes me want to say, Chevy who? Until I make enough money for a house and a Corvette..... this will do. Oh man will this do. Why did you post this Jesal? Now I'm feenin' like a crack addict.
This isn't a pony car/muscle car like in olden times... in stock trim, this will probably blow the doors off of any new production car in that price range, PERIOD, in a straight line or otherwise, stock, and still have a nice level of refinement, reliability, and good looks
brb.... need
My god. If I don't get my hands on the keys to a 2011 5.0, I will go absolutely crazy. I will miss the burble of a pushrod SBC..... but...........
I still love my car. But even then, the new 5.0 makes me want to say, Chevy who? Until I make enough money for a house and a Corvette..... this will do. Oh man will this do. Why did you post this Jesal? Now I'm feenin' like a crack addict.
This isn't a pony car/muscle car like in olden times... in stock trim, this will probably blow the doors off of any new production car in that price range, PERIOD, in a straight line or otherwise, stock, and still have a nice level of refinement, reliability, and good looks
brb.... need
#938
WAS HONDATAFIED IN
Will have one... mark my words....
It's everything that the 2010 was lacking and as far as the center console it may look like a lot of plastic but in reality the feel/finish is nice.
It's everything that the 2010 was lacking and as far as the center console it may look like a lot of plastic but in reality the feel/finish is nice.
#939
TQ > MPG
The 2011 Ford Mustang GT sports the very best solid rear axle in the world. We'd rather have the best solid axle than a mediocre multi-point rear. Hint, hint, Chevy. 'Nuff said.
#942
TQ > MPG
#944
Yeah these are going to kick some serious ass.
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#946
Hmm.... seems like the dyno Edmunds is using a little generous? Unless Infiniti underrated the G37 too. Either way, that is a lot of power for the money.
#948
The rags have been falling all over themselves to praise the new GT, but what surprised me is that they claim it can steer too, and that the live axle isn't much of a detriment day to day. Plus it looks pretty nice on the inside too and there's plenty of toys available including Sync. I just may have to test drive one, though I'd probably be more interested in the V6. 300HP is more than enough for me!
#949
The rags have been falling all over themselves to praise the new GT, but what surprised me is that they claim it can steer too, and that the live axle isn't much of a detriment day to day. Plus it looks pretty nice on the inside too and there's plenty of toys available including Sync. I just may have to test drive one, though I'd probably be more interested in the V6. 300HP is more than enough for me!
Not sure about the current GT but the 2011+ with the Track Pack is supposed to also come with Brembos. I don't think you can get the Track Pack for the V6 though, but it is impressive how they achieved 30+ MPG in a 300 HP car.... and it's affordable. Everyone I've heard from and almost every article I've read preferred the 2011 GT + Track Pack over the 2010+ Camaro and Challenger handling wise, the only time they prefer the Camaro/Challenger is over bumpy roads
The only times the live axle get to me are when I try to accelerate over multiple pot holes at very low speeds. The rear wheels tumble and struggle to gain traction so the car lunges a bit for a couple of seconds.
Plus the whole live-axle handles worse thing is a farce.... it's just that most solid rear axle cars, mainly the previous gens Mustang and F-Body, come with cheap/poorly designed bushings and suspension which are neither good for handling or ride comfort. The 05+ Mustang GT handles great stock and rides pretty decently, I can imagine the 11+ is even better.
#951
Senior Moderator
This will make chevy have to step up their game.
#952
I don't think you can get the Brembos but the V6 Performance Pack comes with the stock brakes from the GT along with the suspension and axle ratio... of course that blows the 31MPG figure out of the water.
#955
how handsome I am
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/29/2...t-first-drive/
#956
Fahrvergnügen'd
Speed, handling, soundtrack, brakes, interior (the GT is actually creeping into Audi levels of interior sophistication – look at those seats!), fit and finish – you name it, the Mustang's the superior sports car.
Speaking of Audi, the 5.0 makes the 354-hp S5 look like an overpriced slowpoke. We've driven both cars in anger and the 2011 Mustang GT is not only faster, but is actually rear-wheel drive, not a FWD platform fitted with Quattro all-wheel drive. Want us to go even further? We'd prefer the Mustang GT to a BMW 650i. Sure, the BMW has dash leather and... iDrive. But (again), the GT makes more power (the 650i manages 360 hp), handles better and is quieter unless you're really belting the throttle. Also, Sync's a whole lot better than iDrive, even the much improved new iDrive. Not only that, but the GT's new 5.0-liter V8 engine is in another league than (previous) competitors like the Nissan 370Z and Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8. Getting the point? In 2011, the Mustang GT is the car to beat. Welcome back, 5.0.
Speaking of Audi, the 5.0 makes the 354-hp S5 look like an overpriced slowpoke. We've driven both cars in anger and the 2011 Mustang GT is not only faster, but is actually rear-wheel drive, not a FWD platform fitted with Quattro all-wheel drive. Want us to go even further? We'd prefer the Mustang GT to a BMW 650i. Sure, the BMW has dash leather and... iDrive. But (again), the GT makes more power (the 650i manages 360 hp), handles better and is quieter unless you're really belting the throttle. Also, Sync's a whole lot better than iDrive, even the much improved new iDrive. Not only that, but the GT's new 5.0-liter V8 engine is in another league than (previous) competitors like the Nissan 370Z and Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8. Getting the point? In 2011, the Mustang GT is the car to beat. Welcome back, 5.0.
That's quite an impressive feat by Ford.
I dunno if I could see myself owning one though ... And that probably means I'm a badge whore
#957
I'd still rather have an M3 coupe for the best balance of show and go (if money was no object), but this car for what it should cost, might be the best all around performance car bargain ever.
And yes, the S5 is an overpriced slowpoke. A TT-S is every bit the performance car and returns something resembling decent fuel economy.
And yes, the S5 is an overpriced slowpoke. A TT-S is every bit the performance car and returns something resembling decent fuel economy.
#958
I'd still rather have an M3 coupe for the best balance of show and go (if money was no object), but this car for what it should cost, might be the best all around performance car bargain ever.
And yes, the S5 is an overpriced slowpoke. A TT-S is every bit the performance car and returns something resembling decent fuel economy.
And yes, the S5 is an overpriced slowpoke. A TT-S is every bit the performance car and returns something resembling decent fuel economy.
All around best performance car bargain might be an understatement. The starting MSRP of the 5.0 will be almost half as much as the E90 M3 but there were already reports of the 5.0 GT with Track Pack and R-Compounds running the same lap times as an E90 M3 on street tires. The Brembos are just what the Mustang needed, and its not like the OE Michelin PS2s on the M3 are lacking when it comes to grip either.
#960
TQ > MPG
Thats some interesting stats, even though I'm sure the M3 "feels" faster, especially around a road course. You dont see an M3 on every corner, but then again you can throw $5k at the Mustang and probably woop on the M3 in every aspect and still be $25k ahead.