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Old 01-16-2012, 04:50 PM
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For the engine complaints, I agree that it does seem a bit underpowered as of right now, but there are many other factors that go into how fast it will be.

Take the Hyundai sonata for example. It makes something like 270 hp from its turbo-4. But it is I believe slowest in its class for top tier engines, or at least one of them. And its mainly due to it's transmission.

My guess is Ford includes the DCT in the top tier engine for the Fusion, hopefully they fixed all the quirks/complaints from the Focus and make a working transmission, but I dont think the Fusion would be much slower.

Was there anything on weight?? Thats another big factor.

Also when is this model set to be released? I dont think I saw it mentioned anywhere, is this the 2013 model?
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reading the Ford forums they're saying the Fusion will get a 6AT no DCT
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This car looks legit. I like it a lot.



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Man, I love that angry catfish look.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Man, I love that angry catfish look.
This is not some Nissan/Infiniti design madness....this car attributes its looks to its former "Ford Family" AM.

...and if you think an AM looks like an angry catfish, then you sir, will have to forfeit your AM fan card.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
This is not some Nissan/Infiniti design madness....this car attributes its looks to its former "Ford Family" AM.

...and if you think an AM looks like an angry catfish, then you sir, will have to forfeit your AM fan card.
Waldorf, I've always maintained AMs look like angry catfish.



There are different species of catfish...just think of it that way.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Waldorf, I've always maintained AMs look like angry catfish.



There are different species of catfish...just think of it that way.
Aston Martin will be calling...they want your fan card.

You can't be serious.

The Aston Martin grille is nothing short of classic automotive design that goes way back.

To call it an angry catfish look is disparaging to the heritage of the Aston Martin classic design.

Don't try to say that Mr. Bond's DB5 is an angry catfish.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Aston Martin will be calling...they want your fan card.

You can't be serious.

The Aston Martin grille is nothing short of classic automotive design that goes way back.

To call it an angry catfish look is disparaging to the heritage of the Aston Martin classic design.

Don't try to say that Mr. Bond's DB5 is an angry catfish.
Uh oh.
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^^ Hand over your card....you have said more than enough!!!!
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NO! I refuse!
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
NO! I refuse!
I've already notified AM corporate. Your days are numbered.
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My many years of loyalty has already been recognized.


I'm safe.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
My many years of loyalty has already been recognized.


I'm safe.
Not according to my sources, especially given recently enacted prohibitions against comparisons to bottom-feeding fish. Oh, how the mighty have fallen!
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Originally Posted by ttribe
Not according to my sources, especially given recently enacted prohibitions against comparisons to bottom-feeding fish. Oh, how the mighty have fallen!
It's not meant to be insulting!


GOSH!
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
It's not meant to be insulting!


GOSH!
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
My many years of loyalty has already been recognized.


I'm safe.
You have been outed!!!!

You have been found to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Aston Martin is not amused.
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Ford says next Fusion hybrid will surpass Camry
http://www.freep.com/article/2012021...-surpass-Camry
Ford said last month that the hybrid version of its revamped Fusion will get 47 miles per gallon in city driving, 44 m.p.g. highway. The new Camry hybrid that went on sale last year is rated at 43 m.p.g. city and 39 m.p.g. highway.
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47 mpg city for a sedan....that's impressive to say the least!

Then look at how great the Fusion looks inside and out.....who in their right mind would buy a Camry?
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
who in their right mind would buy a Camry?
Camry built in Kentucky, Fusion built in Mexico.
Bring the Fusion to a U.S. plant and I would consider it for my next car.
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Originally Posted by doopstr
Camry built in Kentucky, Fusion built in Mexico.
Bring the Fusion to a U.S. plant and I would consider it for my next car.
Salaries that build the car go to Americans but profits go to Japan.

Or salaries to build the car go to Mexicans but profits come back to the US.

Eh. Near as makes no difference IMO.
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Originally Posted by doopstr
Camry built in Kentucky, Fusion built in Mexico.
Bring the Fusion to a U.S. plant and I would consider it for my next car.
You serious?
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Salaries that build the car go to Americans but profits go to Japan.

Or salaries to build the car go to Mexicans but profits come back to the US.

Eh. Near as makes no difference IMO.
Most of the money spent on a car needs to stay in the country where the car was built because they need to order more parts to build more cars. Camry is 80% U.S. content so that's a lot of domestic manufacturing jobs that this country needs. Ford Fusion is around 30% U.S. content.
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Originally Posted by doopstr
Most of the money spent on a car needs to stay in the country where the car was built because they need to order more parts to build more cars. Camry is 80% U.S. content so that's a lot of domestic manufacturing jobs that this country needs. Ford Fusion is around 30% U.S. content.
I'd look at it this way ... The Fusion benefits the Mexican and America economies. The Camry only the American.

Therefore the Fusion is in the better interests of America than the Camry
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http://content.usatoday.com/communit...t-its-rivals/1

Ford completely redesigned 2013 Fusion, one of the more important new vehicles of the year, has been given a starting price of $22,495 including destination fees.

That puts the new Fusion, which goes on sale this fall, on a competitive footing with the 2012 Toyota Camry at $22,850, 2013 Nissan Altima at $22,280 and 2013 Hyundai Sonata at $21,670.

The Fusion S and SE come standard with a 170-horsepower, 2.5-liter four-cylinder paired with a six-speed automatic transmission. It will get 22 miles per gallon in city driving, 34 mpg on the highway, Ford says.

The top-of-the-line Titanium model comes with a standard 240-horsepower, 2-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine and a six-speed automatic transmission. It is expected to get 22 mpg in the city, 33 mpg on the highway.

The Fusion S comes standard with halogen projector headlamps; LED taillamps; power windows, locks and mirrors; remote keyless entry; cruise control; steering-wheel-mounted controls; MyKey; a capless refueling system; automatic headlights; Ford Sync; integrated spotter mirrors; a security system; and 16-inch steel wheels. Like the 2013 Ford Escape, the S trim Fusion doesn't have many options, so you'd need to move up to the SE trim if you want a few extras.

The Fusion SE starts at $24,495 and comes with a 10-way powered driver's seat, a keyless entry keypad and 17-inch alloy wheels. The SE is the Fusion's most customizable trim, and likely Ford's volume model.
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new fusion looks bad ass. I even like the old ones
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I parked next to one today at work. They're alot bigger than I expected... but then again, most cars are larger than my outdated TL.

Gorgeous car though.
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^^ A new 2013 Fusion?!?!?
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A loaded AWD Fusion Titanium 2.0T is about $32k.
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A loaded AWD Fusion Titanium 2.0T is about $32k.
I didn't know they had pricing out already. Any info on the engine, good, bad, meh, used in anything else?
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http://content.usatoday.com/communit...age/70000552/1

Ford says hybrid version of its new Fusion sedan will post some of the best gas-mileage numbers around. Perhaps best of all, they're astoundingly easy to remember -- 47 miles per gallon in the city, 47 mpg on the highway for a total of, sure enough, 47 mpg combined.

When you get past the hybrid, the numbers are good, but aren't headline making. The rest of the line:

1.6-liter EcoBoost turbocharged engine: 25 mpg city, 37 mpg highway, 29 mpg combined.
2-liter EcoBoost turbocharged engine: 22 mpg city, 33 mpg highway, 26 mpg combined.
2.5-liter: 22 mpg city, 34 mpg highway, 26 mpg combined. By contrast, the new Honda Accord's base engine is rated at 27 mpg city, 36 highway, for 30 combined.
On the hybrid, Ford's rating is 8 mpg more on the highway and 4 mpg more in the city than the Toyota Camry Hybrid, which is impressive, but not as impressive as considering its only three miles shy of the average of Toyota's top mileage meister, the Prius, at 50 mpg average.

"The new Fusion is part of our plan to offer vehicles with the very best quality, fuel efficiency, safety, smart design and value," says Ford CEO Alan Mulally. "We are absolutely committed to class-leading fuel efficiency as a reason to buy Ford vehicles."

They had better be. The midsize sedan is one of Ford's biggest selling models. Lately, buyers have put fuel economy at their top of list of considerations. And with a new Accord, Nissan Altima and a new Mazda6 on the way, competition in the segment couldn't be more keen.

Ford is throwing one other feature into the mix that will help with gas mileage, even if it doesn't get full credit for it when it comes to the way the government rates gas mileage. The Fusion equipped with the 1.6-liter EcoBoost engine is available with a stop-start system, which turns off the engine when the car is idling at intersections. It's a reasonable $295 option.
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http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...n_first_drive/

It’s fair to say that at the Ford Motor Company, they’re obsessed with the Toyota Camry. It was far and away the most-mentioned competitor at the launch of the latest Fusion—and of the previous model. The Toyota Camry, after all, has been the bestselling car in America for years—even the tsunami in Japan couldn’t keep it out of the top spot—but those with long memories will recall that the Camry toppled the Ford Taurus to take that top spot. Maybe that has something to do with it. You might expect that in redesigning the Fusion, Ford’s Camry competitor, Ford would hew closely to the number-one rival’s playbook. But Ford did not. Instead, the new Fusion very much follows Ford’s own playbook.
If you’ve been paying attention to recent Fords—the Fiesta, the Focus, the Escape—it’s pretty easy to identify the hallmarks of a new Ford: a taut body shape with lots of creases, multiple engine choices with EcoBoost playing a major role, and a heavy emphasis on high technology. The new Fusion? Check, check, and check.

The midsize sedan market, though, is one where practicality reigns supreme, and any design—no matter how good-looking—that seriously compromises utility is going to be a detriment. So how did Ford mate pretty with practical? Quite well, in fact. With its high beltline and steeply raked windshield and backlight, the Fusion can’t come close to matching the outward visibility of the new Honda Accord, but few can. Thick A-pillars and two-piece C-pillars compromise the driver’s view somewhat, but the rear package shelf is lower than you’d expect, so the view straight back is OK. (A backup camera is standard on the top-spec Titanium, optional on the volume SE, and not available on the base S.)
More critically, rear-seat space under the sloping roofline is not bad at all. The door opening is a little low, but once inside, a six-footer will find adequate headroom. And it’s not achieved by lowering the seat cushion—in fact, the rear seat is comfortably high off the floor and has good under-thigh support. Legroom is good, too, but the rear seat overall does not feel as spacious as that in an Accord or a Camry.
The same is true up front. The high center console sweeps up into the dash (as in the Taurus), which looks modern and cool but also makes for a less open interior than the more conventionally styled Honda and Toyota. The interior design is a lot less splashy than the exterior, though, with gloss black trim accented with plenty of matte grays. Soft-touch areas are there where you want them, and the materials quality is consistent if hardly extravagant. All Fusions have deeply pocketed front seatbacks, and the Titanium model gets firmly bolstered seat cushions as well; lesser Fusions, though, suffer from squishy cushions that offer much less support but may be more accommodating for wide-bodied drivers.
One Car, Many Engines
The new Fusion offers many engine choices—then again, so did the old one. Whereas previously there was a four, two V-6s, and a hybrid, this time there are three fours, no V-6s, and two hybrids.
The carryover 2.5-liter is the base engine on the S and SE. Next up is a 1.6-liter EcoBoost turbo; it’s optional ($795) on the SE. Ford’s 2.0-liter EcoBoost stands at the top of the heap. The 2.0-liter is optional on the SE and standard on the Titanium, which also offers the option of all-wheel drive (the Fusion and the Subaru Legacy are the only cars in this class to offer AWD).
Like the Honda Accord, the Ford Fusion will offer both regular and plug-in hybrids. The latter model, the Fusion Energi, won’t be out until January. The Fusion Hybrid, which blew away the field with its 47/47-mpg city/highway ratings, is going on sale now. See our quick take on that model here.
Of the mainstream Fusions, we drove the 1.6-liter, which is expected to be the volume engine, and the 2.0. With 178 hp and 184 pound-feet of torque, the EcoBoost 1.6-liter provides only marginally better output than the base four-banger’s 175 hp and 175 lb-ft. It does, however, get better fuel economy. With its six-speed automatic, the 1.6-liter beats the larger engine’s 22/34-mpg figures by 1 mpg in the city and 2 mpg on the highway. If you’re really concerned about fuel economy, you might pony up another $295 for auto stop/start, which also includes active grille shutters and additional underbody aerodynamic aids and pushes the EPA ratings to 25/37 mpg.
In our short drive of a 1.6-liter with the auto stop/start system, we found it to be pretty well integrated. The engine doesn’t shut off until you’ve been stopped for two seconds, which is good, and although restart isn’t as smooth as in cars with an integrated starter-generator (such as GM’s eAssist), the noise and vibration are much lower than in BMW’s auto stop/start system. Without electric A/C, the engine needs to be running to drive the compressor, and it won’t shut down if it’s going to cause passengers to swelter. With temps in the high seventies, and the climate control set on 72, the engine only shut itself off about half the time during our short drive; buyers in Sunbelt states might not see much engine down time at all.
Another, more fun, way to bump up the mileage of the 1.6-liter is to pair it with the available six-speed manual. Auto stop/start is not available with the stick shift, but this pairing achieves the same 25/37-mpg rating even without it. The better news is that this is a Honda-slick shifter with friendly clutch action. It helps wake up the response of this small engine, at least subjectively, although you’re not going to talk yourself into the notion that this car is a barn burner. The 1.6/manual model is also the lightest Fusion, at 3333 pounds. That figure makes the Fusion a little heavier than its Asian competitors, but the portliest Fusion, the all-wheel-drive 2.0-liter, is nearly 350 pounds heavier still.
As it happened, the 2.0-liter AWD Titanium was the Fusion that we had on the twisty, canyon-road portion of the drive, and despite its weight, it was engaging and responsive. Ford has shown real skill in chassis tuning, and that’s the case here, too. Not only does the Fusion turn in eagerly and resist body roll, but it also snubs body motion yet still takes the edge off bumps. It feels taut and European—though it was developed in the USA. Even the electric power steering in the 1.6-liter and the 2.0 feels very natural and direct. This is likely the best chassis in the field.
As for the 2.0-liter turbo, it’s not a slam dunk over the smaller EcoBoost unit. The bigger engine’s 237 hp is shy of competitors’ V-6s, although the 270 pound-feet of torque is competitive. Full-throttle performance is a little wanting; the EcoBoost is happiest in the midrange. Still, the added oomph might not be enough to offset the fuel economy penalty. The 2.0 is rated at 22 mpg city, 33 highway (31 mpg highway with AWD). That’s against 21/34 mpg for the V-6 Accord and 22/34 mpg for the Hyundai Sonata turbo, both of which boast more horsepower. The 2.0, however, is the only engine in the Titanium, but virtually all of the Titanium goodies can be had on the SE.
The Apple Effect
Certainly, dazzling shoppers with high-tech goodies is another pillar of Ford’s strategy, and the Fusion offers more features than any other midsize sedan. In addition to the expected navigation (optional on SE and Titanium) and rearview camera (standard on Titanium, optional on SE), Ford adds: blind-spot warning, lane-departure warning with lane-keep assist, adaptive cruise control with forward collision warning, and active park assist. All are optional on SE and Titanium.
Of course, no Ford today is complete without MyFordTouch. It’s avoidable on the base car, optional on the SE, and standard on the Titanium. With some models, there are knobs for volume and tuning; on others, only for volume. In nearly all Fusions, the HVAC is also a flat-panel, haptic-touch affair. As always, the workarounds are the steering-wheel controls or voice activation, but we’d rather have physical controls that don’t demand so much eyes-off-the-road time.
More seductive styling, better fuel economy, a more premium-feeling chassis, and up-to-the-minute technology are all supposed to impart a sense of greater value, allowing Ford to charge a higher price. Indeed, the base price of the Fusion has jumped by almost $2000 (to $22,495), and the Titanium costs more than $30,000. Ford wants buyers to buy a Fusion because they want a Fusion, not because it’s the best deal. In that sense, then, they actually are right with the Camry. But they got there with a very different car.
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I'd be interested to see if Ford considers a Fusion ST and if there's any significant difference between the Focus ST 2.0T and the Fusion's. If not, there's about 25hp waiting for the Fusion with a simple tune.

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