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2010 Ford Focus RS500 First Drive

By Alistair Weaver, Contributor | Published Jun 10, 2010

The 2010 Ford Focus RS500 is the kind of car we used to doodle at school: OTT (over-the-top) styling, matte-black paint and a turbo engine so vociferous that it should come with a health warning. Limited to a production run of 500 examples, this hatchback is the ultimate iteration of the Euro-spec Focus and one of the craziest cars Ford has ever built.

Once you find 3rd gear, the RS500 has such crazed intensity that it's almost comical. Nail the throttle and feel the turbocharged, 345-horsepower, 2.5-liter inline-5 pull easily from 1,000 rpm and then hear the turbo start to wind up at 2,500 rpm. Now the kick comes, accompanied by an old-school whistle from the turbo and a baritone bellow from the oversized exhaust. The front tires absorb the torque, the diff does its thing and the RS hurls itself forward with a vigor rarely seen in an unmodified hatchback from a major manufacturer.


The 2010 Ford Focus RS500 might wear a stealthy matte-black cloak but there is nothing subtle about the way it delivers its fury. This is a Focus that costs an outrageous $54,200 in the U.K., yet is already sold out. It's an instant classic, and with good reason.

We're Ford; We Can Do This
As one Ford insider told us, his engineering team built the RS500 "because we can." It is a statement from a confident company, a flamboyant recognition of the powerful appeal that the Focus still has at the end of its production life. Until now, the ultimate Focus has been the 2009 Ford Focus RS. Launched in early 2009, the standard RS was developed to poke new life into an aging product. Ford reckoned they'd sell 7,000-8,000 in Europe, but when production of the RS ends this September, the company will have sold more than 11,000. Apparently Europe's love affair with the fast Ford is stronger than ever.

Actually the RS500 badge is designed to invoke the rear-wheel-drive Ford Sierra RS500, another heroic Ford. This car also boasted a production run of 500 and was built to homologate competition versions for the track and rally stages, where the car proved hugely successful. A road-going version today can command $50,000.

Ford lacked the resources to redevelop the standard RS's chassis, so instead it focused on the engine. Work on the 2,521cc Duratec inline-5 concentrated on the breathing, as Ford's technicians were unwilling to compromise the engine's flexible power in the search for more performance. Accordingly, boost pressure has only been increased by 4 percent to a peak of 18.9 psi.

When the car comes on boost, it's signified by the evocative combination of wastegate whistle and exhaust woofle.
Engineers from Ford's TeamRS enlisted the help of Revolve Technologies, a company that already offers Ford-approved aftermarket upgrades through its Mountune brand. Together they developed an array of hardware to coax more power from the Focus engine: a larger air-to-air intercooler to deliver a cooler, denser intake charge; a larger-diameter exhaust downpipe; and an uprated fuel pump. Needless to say, the software for the ECU has also been rewritten to manage the engine's larger lungs.

The net result is a 45-hp increase in power to 345 hp at 6,000 rpm, and the addition of 15 pound-feet of torque to a peak of 339 lb-ft of torque at 2,500-4,500 rpm. Ford says the RS will accelerate to 100 km/h (62 mph) from a standstill in 5.6 seconds, 0.3 second quicker than before. Top speed is unchanged at 163 mph.

Mature Engineering
There is a real integrity to Ford's work here. The temptation to crank up the boost in pursuit of willy-waving outputs must have been strong, but to do so would have compromised the driving experience. The Focus RS already has a challenge coping with its turbocharged 300-hp engine despite the car's unique "RevoKnuckle" front suspension (to minimize torque steer), Quaife limited-slip differential and 235/35R19 Continental tires. In fact, the RS engine's output is already electronically limited in 1st and 2nd gears.

The steering tug under hard acceleration that's a feature of the standard car is mildly exaggerated here in the 2010 Ford Focus RS500. Fans of the Mitsubishi Evo and Subaru Impreza WRX STI will no doubt sneer at this, but it's very much part of the RS experience. You have to moderate your throttle inputs in this front-driver, just as you would in an old-school rear-drive car. For us, that's part of the challenge and part of the fun.

The outright grip and the ability of the RS to transfer its power to the road also remains nothing short of extraordinary. Even under full-bore acceleration, the stability control system is all but redundant, at least in the dry. When the car comes on boost, signified by the evocative combination of wastegate whistle and exhaust woofle, this car's midrange thrust is truly staggering.

Taming the Power
You turn in positively to corners, helped by a combination of heavy effort and linear action. Get the nose into the apex early and then use all that torque to pull you out of the turn. You can adjust your cornering line with the throttle, but basically this car wants to be commanded, not finessed. The 2010 Ford Focus RS500 makes you feel and act like a hooligan with a naughty, self-indulgent grin.

We drove the car on both a smoothly surfaced test track, (where it felt predictably superb), and some acneyed British back roads. The original 2002 Ford Focus RS was quite a handful on anything less than a perfect surface, but suspension design has come a long way since then. The RS500's ride is predictably firm, but it copes remarkably well with bumpy terrain. This is a very usable road car, rather than a track day escapee.

The 2010 Ford Focus RS500 should be reliable as well, since Ford employed a team of race drivers to complete 500 consecutive laps of the Nurburgring Nordschleife during the car's development, which is the equivalent of more than 10,000 km (more than 6,200 miles).

If you go to Ford's promotional Web site for the Ford Focus RS500, you can even find videos of Ford WRC driver Mikko Hirvonen wheeling the car through the countryside and around the track.

The Henry Ford Strategy
Henry Ford would have been especially pleased with one aspect of the RS500. That's because you can have any color you like as long as it's matte black. The RS500 is painted Panther Black, an existing Ford metallic color, before it's shipped to a 3M facility near Frankfurt, Germany. There, a clear "frost" wrap is applied that gives the paint its stealthy appearance.

Owners will be provided a large sheet of this wrap for repairing stone chips and minor dings, while bigger scrapes can be repaired at 3M facilities across Europe. It's an intriguing solution even if its long-term practicality remains unproven.

The RS500's 19-inch rims are also finished in black, with the only dashes of color provided by the red brake calipers, blue RS badges and blue-and-red RS500 script on the trunk. The aesthetics might have taken their inspiration from a stealth bomber, but that's where the comparison ends. Nothing this side of a new Ferrari garners so much attention on British roads.

The cabin has a few trinkets to separate it from the RS norm. There is a new carbon-effect fascia trim that looks even less like carbon fiber than trim for the standard Focus RS. Red stitching adorns the steering wheel, shift lever and floor mats, and if you're feeling decadent you can indulge in some leather-upholstered red Recaros, which may or may not be a good thing. The rest of the cabin is classic Focus, save for a little plaque identifying which of the 500 cars you've purchased.

Collectible Focus
Ford is actually building 512 examples of the 2010 Ford RS500, with the 12 extra cars being used as sacrificial test cars for the media. Ours bore the unique license plate, "PR001." This cute fact will no doubt make an interesting quiz question at an RS owners club meet in 2050, when they'll no doubt be recalling the classic that was the Focus RS500.

At first glance, the price of $54,200 looks ludicrous. A standard RS costs $14K less and for $3,200 Mountune will fit the engine upgrades to an existing car without compromising the official Ford warranty. The RS500 is therefore not a rational purchase, but that's unlikely to worry the 500 customers who ordered theirs without so much as a test-drive. The car has even been proving attractive to speculators, with "new" cars appearing on the Web priced at over $60,000.

With the 2010 Ford Focus RS500, a lucky few in Europe will find themselves in possession of a car that's an exclamation mark in the history of performance Fords. Given the success of this RS, we might expect a nutty version of the new global Focus, but whether it will match the unabashed lunacy of this model is open to debate. For now, we should simply rejoice that a mainstream manufacturer has had the confidence and the sense of humor to build such a brilliant car.
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New Focus ST revealed

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Ford will ramp up the performance and hardcore looks of its performance Focus ST when this next generation of the car arrives in 2012.

The firm says that customer feedback on the outgoing version of the car - one of the more subtle hot hatchbacks on the market - has persuaded it to create more extreme styling for the new version.

The new ST is being revealed this week ahead of a public debut at the Paris motor show at the end of this month, coinciding with the first European appearance of the new Focus range.


The choice of the ST model designation for the show car is likely to prove significant. Ford is said to be keen to rationalise the branding its high-performance variants, which have also been called XR and SVT in other markets.

As expected, the new ST uses a retuned version of Ford’s four-cylinder, turbocharged Ecoboost engine, now producing 247bhp. That figure puts the Focus on a par with Renaultsport’s Mégane 250 and lifts it above the 223bhp of the old model, which was powered by a Volvo-derived, turbocharged five-pot. However, its figure is likely to be topped by Vauxhall’s next-gen Astra VXR, which should have north of 280bhp when it arrives at the end of 2011.

Ford has yet to issue any details on the car’s transmission, but the show car appears to have a six-speed manual gearbox. A version of its Powershift dual-clutch set-up is likely to be offered as an option.

The new car’s styling takes the latest five-door Focus’s looks to extremes, with deep air intakes, side skirts and a roof spoiler. Ford’s head of design, Martin Smith, told Autocar, “The new Focus ST is more of an overt performance car than its predecessor in response to customer feedback. We knew that the Focus ST customer wanted something less subtle than the standard design, with a more sporty feel.”

The front of the new car is dominated by a gaping single-piece grille, in contrast to the two-piece item that will feature on regular next-gen Focuses. It’s entirely black, apart from a small ST badge. Ford draws comparisons between the ‘blade’ front spoilers, which emerge from the centre of the front bumper and extend around the sides, and the rear end, which features sharp creases above the bumpers. The firm also claims that the central exhaust has strong ‘kinetic’ design cues.

The show car’s paint colour, called “Tangerine Scream”, is an evolution of the bright orange that was the signature finish on the previous ST. It’s likely to be offered as a cost option on the new model.

Inside, the ST features sports seats with body-coloured inserts, a deeply cowled rev counter and speedometer, carbonfibre weave finish on much of the fascia, a ‘stitched leather’ effect at the top of the dash and, as a nod to the outgoing model, a trio of small dials - likely to be oil temperature, boost and battery charge - between the main instruments and the windscreen.

The chassis set-up will be a development of the new ‘global Focus’ floorpan. In particular, the new design attempts to adapt Ford’s ‘control blade’ rear suspension system for all markets, including the United States, where the car’s retail price will be lower.

The ST show car will be a five-door variant (Ford presently has no plans for a three-door Focus), although in a break from tradition, the hottest Focus will be available in the UK as an estate. Buyers in continental Europe will also be able to choose it as a saloon, but that configuration will not make it to the British customers. In line with the outgoing model, it’s likely to be priced from around £20,000.

The ST is likely to remain the hottest next-gen Focus for at least 12 months. A new RS is under consideration, particularly since the new production methods introduced on the outgoing model allowed it to return a profit. But it’s so early in its development cycle that a debut before 2013 is unlikely.

Ford is said to be still considering possible powertrains for its hottest hatch, including a basic version of the front-drive/electric back axle solution that was revealed by Autocar last month. The system has been tested, according to senior sources, but it’s some way from receiving the green light for production.
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I like it.
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looks pretty good except the grille screams mitsubishi.
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looks pretty good except the grille screams mitsubishi.
maybe Mitsubishi's one screams Ford...?
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They better bring that here.
FoMoCo also makes it clear that the ST is bound for "all global markets from early 2012" so those of us in the States should finally get a crack at what's traditionally been a Euro-only affair.
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Those are some funky tails.... but I like it!
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Those are some funky tails.... but I like it!
almost a little Nissan-ish
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i like it. just not in that color LOL
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Press release...

• Ford delivers on promise to introduce a global performance version of the new Focus: next-generation 250 PS Focus ST previewed at the Paris Motor Show
• Ford's first global high-performance model, scheduled for 2012 launch and developed by Ford's global Performance Vehicles team
• Exciting new model will be true to Ford's ST heritage, with exhilarating performance and handling, an addictive sound and muscular sports design
• Pure performance delivered by unique 250 PS version of new 2.0-litre Ford EcoBoost four-cylinder petrol engine
• Over 10 per cent more power and torque than the current European Focus ST, but fuel consumption and CO2 emissions cut by more than 20 per cent
• Lowered chassis and unique suspension tuning to deliver acclaimed ST handling agility and poise
• 5-door ST show car for Paris features dramatic ‘Tangerine Scream’ body colour, reflecting new ST's exciting and energetic character

The exciting next-generation Ford Focus ST makes its global debut at the 2010 Paris Motor Show, providing an early preview of the new high-performance model which will be introduced around the world in 2012.

Ford's first global high performance model and a star attraction for Ford in Paris, the powerful new Focus ST show car was revealed today by Alan Mulally, Ford’s President and CEO, and Stephen Odell, Chairman and CEO, Ford of Europe.

This range-topping Focus will be completely true to Ford's ST model heritage, offering driving enthusiasts an intoxicating cocktail of exhilarating performance and handling, an addictive sound and muscular sports design.
"The ST will be the performance flagship of our new Focus range, and we are excited to provide our enthusiast customers with an early preview in Paris," said Gunnar Herrmann, Ford Motor Company's Global C-car Vehicle Line Director. "The ST represents an ultimate expression of Focus driving quality and performance and we are confident that the new model will strengthen the reputation of Ford's ST heritage among enthusiast drivers and attract new fans as well."

Global Performance Model

One common Focus ST model is being developed for all global markets, with the vehicle targeted for launch during 2012. This will be the first time that Ford has produced one of its highly regarded high-performance models for a global audience.

The Focus ST development programme is being undertaken by Ford’s global Performance Vehicles group, which comprises Team RS (Europe) and SVT (USA) engineers, who are dedicated to developing and tuning products like the formidable Focus RS, Shelby GT500 and F-150 SVT Raptor.

For new Focus ST the development is being led by Team RS performance specialists based in Europe, building on their extensive experience in engineering sought-after cars like the previous ST models and legendary RS series.

“The new Focus ST will be our first true global performance vehicle and we are excited about the chance to give many customers worldwide their first taste of Ford's acclaimed ST heritage,” said Jost Capito, Director of Global Performance Vehicles. “Like the ST and RS models before it, the Focus ST will be the result of painstaking tuning around the curves of the Nürburgring, along high-speed German autobahns, and down classic British B-roads.

“For European drivers, the Focus ST will bring the same distinctive qualities of pure dynamics and performance that have created the unique appeal of our ST heritage.

“For enthusiasts in North America and Asia who have asked why our compact performance models were not available to them – the wait is almost over! The new Focus ST will offer exactly the same exciting driving experience wherever it’s on sale,” added Capito.
More Performance – and More Economy – from Ford EcoBoost Power
At the heart of the appeal of the next-generation Focus ST is a high-output 250 PS derivative of the efficient and advanced new 2.0-litre Ford EcoBoost four-cylinder petrol engine.

Succeeding the turbocharged 2.5-litre five-cylinder unit of the current European model, this unique 250 PS Ford EcoBoost engine is being specially developed for the new Focus ST to ensure that the car gets the muscular performance – and the inspirational sound – which it deserves. It also marks the first application of the four-cylinder Ford EcoBoost engine in a high performance model.

Compared to the 2.0-litre Ford EcoBoost engine used in other Ford vehicles, the 250 PS unit features re-designed intake and exhaust systems and a unique engine calibration to deliver the desired level of power and responsiveness. The engine retains the strong torque delivery which is a feature of Ford EcoBoost designs, with a broad, flat torque curve offering a maximum output of 360 Nm.

One of a completely new generation of downsized, high-efficiency, low-CO2 petrol engines from Ford, the 2.0-litre Ford EcoBoost is a lightweight, all-aluminium design which combines three technologies – high-pressure direct injection, low-inertia turbocharging and twin independent variable cam timing – to create an advanced combustion system which brings new levels of performance and fuel efficiency to petrol engines in this power range.

This ultra efficient 250 PS engine therefore not only delivers over 10 per cent more power and torque than the current 2.5-litre unit, it is also estimated to reduce fuel consumption and CO2 emissions by more than 20 per cent.

The standard transmission for the Focus ST is a 6-speed manual gearbox, optimised with more sporting ratios carefully matched to the performance characteristics of the engine.

Genuine Performance and Handling

Ford Team RS performance vehicle specialists have a mission: to ensure that the new Focus ST delivers the pure performance and handling everyone expects from a genuine Ford ST model.

Compared to the standard Focus, the ST model will feature a comprehensive range of enhancements including a chassis lowered by 10mm, a substantially different variable ratio steering system, high performance brakes and unique suspension tuning, that will enable the vehicle to deliver the acclaimed ST handling agility and poise.

Naturally, the ST will also benefit from the performance improvements being delivered by the next-generation Focus vehicle architecture. Features like a stronger, stiffer body structure, optimised front and rear suspension system designs, and a new electric power assisted steering (EPAS) system all contribute to superior vehicle dynamics and improved refinement.

Unprecedented Level of Smart Technologies

Focus ST drivers will also be able to take advantage of the unprecedented level of smart new technologies incorporated in Ford’s latest global C-car platform, including advanced new driver assistance, powertrain, chassis and active safety features.

Many of these features, such as the advanced new Torque Vectoring Control system – which acts like a torque vectoring differential to enhance cornering stability and agility – have a direct impact on improving driving quality to an even higher level.

“This is the third generation Focus ST and we are determined that the new car will continue the strong heritage of affordable, high performance ST models into the future,” said Jost Capito. “The technology on offer with Ford's new global C-car platform will also help to ensure that the Focus ST provides enthusiasts with an exceptional driving experience.”

Unique High-Performance Exterior

The new Focus ST features a highly distinctive sports exterior, providing significant functional and aerodynamic benefits and clearly differentiating the ST derivative from other models in the new Focus family.

While sharing the already sleek and dynamic profile of the new Focus five-door, the ST features unique front- and rear-end designs, together with muscular extended rocker panels and striking new alloy wheels based on the classic Y-spoke ST pattern.

“The changes we have made to deliver superior aerodynamics and vehicle performance have made the new Focus ST even more sporty and distinctive,” explained Martin Smith, Executive Design Director. “Exciting new design treatments at the front and rear give the ST a much more dynamic and purposeful character, making it very clear that this is definitely a sporting Focus.”

The more sporting design language is particularly evident at the front end, where the twin upper and lower grilles of the standard car are replaced by a prominent new one-piece design.

Representing the sportiest definition yet of Ford’s signature trapezoidal grille, the bold one-piece design is placed higher on the nose of the vehicle, and incorporates a distinctive hexagonal mesh finished in high gloss black.

The front spoiler has a completely new configuration, with a deep central splitter framed by small motorsport-inspired spoiler blades on either side, which sweep round and encompass the fog lamps. The spoiler blades are linked to the rest of the body lines through the grille structure, which is reminiscent of the similar treatment in the current Focus RS model.

The more assertive, sporting character of the front end is completed by details like the gloss black finish to the headlamp bezels, and the bold red ST badge on the one-piece grille.

From the side, muscular extended rocker panels emphasise the lowered chassis, and the bold wheel arches are filled with 19-inch alloy wheels which are the latest evolution of the classic Y-spoke ST wheel.

Dynamic Rear End Treatment

The rear bumper and lower fascia is also completely new, with prominent diffuser-style vents on either side which mirror the form of the front spoiler blades. Rear lamps with a dark smoked tint enhance the sporty feel.

The new Focus ST has a high-performance exhaust system, which exits the vehicle through a central dual-pipe outlet. The exhaust outlet has been given a highly-distinctive design treatment with a strong kinetic form which emulates the design themes on the rest of the car.

The car’s aerodynamic package is completed by a highly effective integrated roof spoiler, which has been optimised to deliver improved high-speed stability and reduced drag. With a larger, more exaggerated design than the spoiler on the current Focus ST, it incorporates ducting to the rear screen and has been carefully integrated with the vehicle tailgate and roof.

Dramatic New Body Colour

The Paris preview car is finished in a dramatic new 'Tangerine Scream' body colour, which reflects the exciting and energetic new character of the Focus ST.

A spiritual successor to the signature Electric Orange finish of the current Focus ST, Tangerine Scream is a very intense and vibrant high-saturation metallic yellow-gold tone created using an experimental process with multiple layers of tinted lacquer.

“Such an exciting new car deserves an exciting new finish and we believe that this vibrant new colour will prove just as memorable as Electric Orange,” said Martin Smith. “You can expect to see a very similar shade when the ST reaches the showroom.”

To complement the vibrant exterior colour, the 19-inch alloy wheels have a warm, anodised Golden Graphite finish. Their sophisticated five-spoke design is contrasted by the brake calipers which are brightly painted in body colour.

Bold High-Contrast Sports Cockpit

The performance theme from the exterior is echoed inside the car, with a very bold high-contrast sports cockpit featuring Recaro seats, unique instrumentation and modern, highly technical finishes.

Dramatically-bolstered and rally-inspired Recaro leather and fabric front seats provide an ideal balance between sporting support and long-distance comfort, and form the centrepiece of the cabin.

The seats are finished in high-quality Charcoal Black leather, offset by bold orange gold panels in a neoprene fabric and vibrant yellow-gold contrast stitching. The central Charcoal Black fabric seat panels feature a rugged embossed design in the style of a performance tyre tread pattern. The rear Recaro seats are finished in the same distinctive style.

Throughout the cabin, unique details ensure that the Focus ST clearly signals its sporting intent. Three additional gauges for turbo boost, oil pressure and oil temperature are housed in a dedicated binnacle on the upper instrument panel; the instrument cluster features unique ST sports graphics with red needle pointers; and the centre console has a technical carbon-effect finish.

The interior has the signature ST treatment of a dark interior environment, with black headlining, bespoke steering wheel and a gear knob featuring the ST logo, plus metal racing pedals.

The premium sports feel of the cabin is enhanced by a generous use of Charcoal Black leather with vibrant yellow-gold contrast stitching on many of the interior surfaces, including the seats, door panels, central armrest, steering wheel, gearshift gaiter and the top of the instrument binnacle.
“The Focus ST will be a serious driving machine, and we have developed a purposeful exterior combined with a cockpit that blends sporting function with impressive comfort,” said Stephen Odell. “The approach of form following function is a key part of the ST DNA, and we have remained true to that both inside and outside the vehicle.”
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2012 Ford Focus 6AT sedan priced with Navigation/Sync/Sunroof/Sport Pkg/Leather

Cliff's: $26,885.

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Doesn't that price seem a bit steep?
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Doesn't that price seem a bit steep?
It does seem steep but maybe it's worth it. It's about the same size as the current Jetta so maybe mid-20s for a Focus w/o navigation isn't bad.

I think the car will be cheaper once they start building it in Mexico.
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I saw this from the outside in the auto show. IMO the rear end kinda kills it, well those tails kill it. They are freaking huge!!! Fronts not bad though. It is a big car though.

edit: now depending on how it drives would be the factor of me getting this over, say the GTI. Its got a lot of tough competition when the MS3 and GTI at probably at their best.
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
I saw this from the outside in the auto show. IMO the rear end kinda kills it, well those tails kill it. They are freaking huge!!! Fronts not bad though. It is a big car though.

edit: now depending on how it drives would be the factor of me getting this over, say the GTI. Its got a lot of tough competition when the MS3 and GTI at probably at their best.
I love the styling honestly. It's different and I think that's a good thing.

It'll be an interesting comparison against the GTI and MS3.

But if the money is the same, I'd seriously consider the Ford if the car is as good because the MyFord system is so much better than what VW has decided to do with their navigation/radios ... Going to the RNS315's smaller screen is a mistake and compared to MyFord it's not even comparable.

So if the Focus ST is 9/10ths the car the GTI is, it's going to be a killer package ... IMO of course.
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I love the styling honestly. It's different and I think that's a good thing.

It'll be an interesting comparison against the GTI and MS3.

But if the money is the same, I'd seriously consider the Ford if the car is as good because the MyFord system is so much better than what VW has decided to do with their navigation/radios ... Going to the RNS315's smaller screen is a mistake and compared to MyFord it's not even comparable.

So if the Focus ST is 9/10ths the car the GTI is, it's going to be a killer package ... IMO of course.
Thats true, Ford made the perfect move by working with microsoft for the Myford systems(microsoft is apart of it right?) I know its with sync.

But I think the GTI looks a hundred times better, thats just my opinion. BUt i dont base my car buying off of looks, the thing is if I ever am in the market for the GTI, I just want a completely base model, no navigation or anything. That would have to be the same with the focus since either of those would be my first car purchase. So I'd be comparing base or some small options.

And for that the GTI is still the winner in my eyes. But we'll see what comes standard on this car and how good it performs. I also plan on autocrossing and probably even tracking my next car. So it must perform as well.
Thats why I love the GTI so much, its the package that gives you a good amount of everything.
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Thats true, Ford made the perfect move by working with microsoft for the Myford systems(microsoft is apart of it right?) I know its with sync.

But I think the GTI looks a hundred times better, thats just my opinion. BUt i dont base my car buying off of looks, the thing is if I ever am in the market for the GTI, I just want a completely base model, no navigation or anything. That would have to be the same with the focus since either of those would be my first car purchase. So I'd be comparing base or some small options.

And for that the GTI is still the winner in my eyes. But we'll see what comes standard on this car and how good it performs. I also plan on autocrossing and probably even tracking my next car. So it must perform as well.
Thats why I love the GTI so much, its the package that gives you a good amount of everything.
(Caveat: Someone correct me if I'm wrong) Believe it or not, MyFord is all internally done by Ford. Microsoft provides the OS but all the MyFord stuff done with the instrument cluster, etc is all done by Ford (which makes my :swoon: Ford that much more) ...

I hear what you say about the GTI. It's a great car and you can't go wrong with it. But I have a feeling that the new Focus is going to do very well and may end up being a much cheaper ownership experience in the long run.
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(Caveat: Someone correct me if I'm wrong) Believe it or not, MyFord is all internally done by Ford. Microsoft provides the OS but all the MyFord stuff done with the instrument cluster, etc is all done by Ford (which makes my :swoon: Ford that much more) ...

I hear what you say about the GTI. It's a great car and you can't go wrong with it. But I have a feeling that the new Focus is going to do very well and may end up being a much cheaper ownership experience in the long run.
Hmm didnt know that the MyFord was done by ford. Very impressive.

I'm sure the ford will be a great car. There's just one thing. I've wanted this GTI for 2 years now, and its my dream first car. Between the MS3 and GTI its been basically a toss up. And I bet the ford will make it harder to decide. But there's just something about the GTI that I love about it. I dunno what it is, but every time I see it I just want that car so much.
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Ford Motor Co. will give the all-new 2012 Ford Focus greater stability in turns with technology usually found in more expensive cars — or in action on a ski slope.

"The new Focus is the 1st North American Ford vehicle to offer torque vectoring control," said Rick Bolt, program manager for the Focus.

"This is a technology that has been offered on high-end sports cars, yet Ford is making it standard on their new small car," Bolt said.

Torque vectoring is designed to give a vehicle more control in curves. The same principle applies to skiers and snowboarders who shift their weight to the outside edge to carve each turn through the snow.

In a car, the technology applies slight braking force — imperceptible to the driver — to the wheel and tire that might slip in a curve.

The slight pressure mimics the effect of a limited-slip differential in distributing the power from the engine so more power goes to the outer wheel than the inner one in a turn.

"Because torque vectoring control is on all our Focus models, it will elevate skill sets across a broad range of drivers," said Bolt, who is a downhill skier.

The all-new 2012 Ford Focus goes on sale in early 2011.

The host of the upcoming Focus Rally: America web-based reality show to promote the 2012 Focus is also a hero on the slopes. Jonny Mosely, Olympic ski champion, will host the 5-week show that has contestants in Focuses racing across the country.
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^ That still won't prevent the idiots who think they are Mario Andretti from crashing.
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So they just copied the GTI's (forgot what it was called) but its the same thing.

edit: didnt mean to put down ford for that lol. They're making great progress. People will still complain that it doesnt have a true LSD on it. Thats the same thing people did for the GTI.
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I don't think Ford copied anyone, rather they're finally catching up. Torque vectoring was around since the 80s.
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Didn't the Prelude SH have torque vectoring?

I think the news here isn't that they have it, its that they're offering it as standard in this price class.
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I don't think Ford copied anyone, rather they're finally catching up. Torque vectoring was around since the 80s.
Yea I realized after I posted it, it came out wrong. I didnt mean to say it like that lol
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Didn't the Prelude SH have torque vectoring?

I think the news here isn't that they have it, its that they're offering it as standard in this price class.
I don't see where this is torque vectoring like the Prelude system. I could see where it's sending more RELATIVE power to the outside wheel, but I'm skeptical about the (inferred) claim that applying the brakes will make you faster. It sounds a lot like a programing variation on a 'normal' VSA implementation.
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Bingo.

What Torque Vectoring Really Means for the 2012 Ford Focus, and Why You Shouldn’t Get Too Excited About It

http://blog.caranddriver.com/what-to...ited-about-it/

Ford today announced that all 2012 Ford Focus models will come with brake-based torque vectoring. What the Blue Oval is referring to is a system that selectively brakes the inside front wheel when cornering to keep that wheel from spinning.

Don’t let the name fool you. This is really just an extension of stability control that works when the driver is on the power, as opposed to a differential-based system like those used by Acura, Audi, BMW, Nissan, and others. In that sense, Ford’s system is more like an electronic limited-slip differential, but since torque vectoring sounds cooler, that’s where the marketing machine headed. Ford’s claim that the system is a “class-exclusive feature” is only somewhat true and depends on how you define the class; the Volkswagen GTI (among other VW models) includes what the company calls its XDS, or Cross Differential System, while the now-defunct Dodge Caliber SRT4 included a brake-based “limited-slip.”

Not all “torque-vectoring” performance vehicles use differential-based systems, however. The most notable rear-wheel-drive-based cars to use a brake-based system are the Porsche 911 Turbo and Turbo S. Porsche chooses to use a brake-based system for weight savings. Again, these are real sports cars, and the benefits are easily felt.

Should you care about the Focus’s fancy stability control? If you’re an enthusiast, then sure. But most Focus drivers likely will seldom put the system’s lines of code into action, and few will notice when it’s working. This is more of a safety feature than anything else (in the same vein as the Curve Control System that Ford debuted on the new Explorer) and will likely be marketed as such. The only place where this system will really be necessary is in the Focus ST, which will have sufficient power to tame and will be bought and driven by real car people. But it should be noted that the brake-reliant nature of the system could mean degraded braking performance in a track environment.

A real positive for this electron-based technology is that it doesn’t add weight—it’s a smart use of components the car already carries. But we aren’t going to call it torque vectoring.
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Bingo.

What Torque Vectoring Really Means for the 2012 Ford Focus, and Why You Shouldn’t Get Too Excited About It

http://blog.caranddriver.com/what-to...ited-about-it/
I think they misquoted Ford. I don't recall anything about class exclusive. It was FORD exclusive.

And once again they miss the point. What does a competitor to Ford have? VW has the same thing on the GTI.

Where do they find these idiots?
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Useless article.




It's just an extra feature on a car that competes with Corollas and Civics. What is there to criticize?

Why bring up the SRT-4 when it's out of production?

"Porsche chooses to use a brake-based system for weight savings." They did that so they can charge you $1000 extra for a real mechanical LSD.

People who aren't enthusiasts would be reading Consumer Reports.

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The sleek and stylish five-door hatchback leverages Ford's global C-car platform shared by the gasoline and diesel-powered Focus models, which debuted at the 2010 North American International Auto Show and were launched at the Paris Motor Show in September 2010.

Both Focus gasoline and electric variants to be sold in North America will be built at Ford's Michigan Assembly Plant in Wayne, Mich., with production powered in part by one of the largest solar energy generator systems in the state.

Ford Focus Electric is one of five new electrified vehicles included in Ford's electrification strategy. Initial deliveries of Transit Connect Electric began in North America at the end of last year and the vehicle will be launched in Europe later in 2011.

A real car

Not only is Ford Focus Electric designed to provide outstanding energy efficiency and reliable operation, it also delivers real driving enjoyment. The all-electric powertrain and single-speed transmission provide immediate responsiveness and smooth acceleration when the driver pushes down the accelerator, up to a top speed of 84 mph (136 kph).

Much of Ford Focus Electric's steering, handling and braking feel is shared with the agile, sporty, fuel-powered Focus models upon which it's based, making Focus Electric a dynamic driver's car. At the same time, the absence of a gasoline or diesel engine and outstanding aerodynamics lead to a remarkably quiet, comfortable in-car experience.

"More than any other electric vehicle on the market, Ford Focus Electric loses none of the dynamics and quality of driving a traditional car," said Sherif Marakby, director of Ford's electrification programs and engineering. "It shares many of the same premium components and features as its gasoline-powered counterpart, while delivering distinct efficiencies and a uniquely exciting driving experience."

Ford Focus Electric offers a host of standard safety and security features including six airbags and electronic traction control, along with hands-free SYNC® telephone connectivity and MyKey® for North America. Extensive eco-friendly materials, such as bio-foam seat cushions and recycled fabrics also are featured in the vehicle.

Other standard features on Ford Focus Electric for North American customers include a unique execution of MyFord Touch driver connect technology, 15-spoke 17-inch aluminum wheels, a 60/40 split rear bench seat, push button start, AM/FM/CD/MP3 Sony® Audio with nine speakers, Sirius® Satellite Radio with Travel Link, HD Radio™ and voice-activated Navigation System.

Plug and play

Future owners of the Ford Focus Electric will likely recharge the car's advanced, Ford-engineered lithium-ion battery pack at home on a daily basis, using the recommended 240-volt wall-mounted charge station that will be sold separately or the 120-volt convenience cord that comes with the vehicle.

When plugged in, the Focus Electric onboard charger converts AC power from the electric grid to DC power to charge the liquid-cooled/heated battery pack.

"We're very excited about the potential of Ford Focus Electric in the marketplace. With so many of us accustomed to recharging mobile electronics on a daily basis, we're confident our customers will take to the vehicle recharging process just as easily, because that's exactly what it is - easy," said Nancy Gioia, Ford director of Global Electrification. "Not only have we made the practice of plugging in simple and straightforward, we're working with leading technology companies and the utility industry to make the EV experience empowering and engaging."

An empowering experience

Ford Focus Electric owners will be provided with a suite of driver information systems - on-board and off-board - designed to help them manage the recharge process, manage the most eco-friendly route on-board, monitor battery state of charge and maximize energy efficiency to optimize their driving range. This carefully engineered set of tools is designed to give Focus Electric the edge over competitive products, providing new electric vehicle owners the information they need to enjoy all the freedom gas-free driving has to offer.

Among these tools is a unique execution of MyFord Touch driver connect technology. Thoughtfully developed for electric vehicle owners, it offers innovative presentation of vehicle information, such as battery state of charge, distance to charge point, the corresponding range budget and expected range margin. The system's MyView feature allows drivers to access even more vehicle data including the electrical demands of vehicle accessories such as air conditioning, which can impact driving range.

Just as the growing leafy vine of first-generation SmartGauge™ with EcoGuide represents fuel efficiency in the Ford Fusion Hybrid, the cluster display in Ford Focus Electric uses blue butterflies to represent the surplus range beyond one's charge point destination - the more butterflies there are, the greater the range.

Ford designers were inspired by the phenomenon known as "the butterfly effect," in which a small change, like choosing to drive an electric vehicle, can have an enormous impact. To reinforce the message, at the end of each trip a display screen provides distance driven, miles gained through regenerative braking, energy consumed and a comparative gasoline savings achieved by driving electric.

The cluster is also integrated with the MyFord Touch map-based Navigation System using the vehicle's center stack 8-inch touch screen. After adding their driving destinations, including their next charge point, into the vehicle's Navigation System, the vehicle will coach drivers on how to achieve the desired range - or if travel plans need to be adjusted. The on-board Navigation System provides an EcoRoute option based on characteristics of efficient EV driving.

Remote control

Off-board, Ford Focus Electric owners in North America will be able to maintain constant contact with the car anywhere they have mobile phone access using the Ford-developed MyFord Mobile app.

MyFord Mobile is an app that enables access via a smartphone or web-based interface to:

Receive instant vehicle status information
Perform key functions remotely
Monitor the car's state of charge and current range
Get alerts when it requires charging or has finished charging
Remotely program charge settings and download vehicle data for analysis
The feature also allows the owner to program the vehicle to use electricity from the grid to heat or cool the battery and cabin while plugged in - called preconditioning. For example, during hot summer months, owners can preprogram the car the evening before to be fully charged - and fully cooled to a particular temperature - by a certain time the following morning. Users can also locate the vehicle with GPS, remotely start the vehicle and remotely lock and unlock the car doors.

Working with MapQuest®, MyFord Mobile can communicate charge station and other points of interest to Ford Focus Electric using SYNC's Traffic, Directions and Information (TDI). Turn-by-turn guidance is provided by the in-car map-based Navigation System. Drivers can also get up-to-date charging station information in their vehicle directly through SYNC TDI simply by connecting to SYNC Services.

Value charging

The new Ford Focus Electric offers a unique value charging feature, powered by Microsoft, to help owners in the U.S. charge their vehicles at the cheapest utility rates, lowering the cost of ownership.

"Value charging allows our customers to reduce their electricity costs by taking advantage of off-peak or other reduced rates from their utility without a complicated set-up process," said Ed Pleet, manager, Ford Connected Services Organization. "This is a 'set it and forget it' approach for the customer to reduce energy cost."

The tool is designed to help customers avoid unnecessary expense by providing an optimized charge. In the future, these smart charging habits will help utility companies understand and better manage the demands placed upon the electric grid because of electrified vehicles.

Getting charged up

Ford Focus Electric owners are likely to handle one of the vehicle's charge cord connectors two or more times each day. That's why Ford worked with supplier Yazaki to provide an industry-standard five-point plug that is ergonomically comfortable to hold as well as durably and distinctively designed.

The plug handle uses a matte-finished black rubber that allows for a comfortable, non-slip grip. The plug head is shielded with a protective glossy white plastic.

When the cord set connector is plugged into the vehicle's charge port, which is conveniently located between the driver's door and front wheel well, it activates a light ring that loops around the port twice in acknowledgement of connectivity. The light ring then illuminates in quadrants as the vehicle charges. Flashing quadrants represent charge in progress and solid-lit quadrants show stages of charge completion. In the unlikely event of a fault, the entire ring will flash. When the entire ring is solidly lit, the vehicle is fully charged.

Batteries included

Focus Electric will be powered by an advanced lithium-ion battery system engineered by Ford in cooperation with supplier LG Chem. The battery system utilizes heated and cooled liquid to help maximize battery life and fuel-free driving range.

Thermal management of lithium-ion battery systems is critical to the success of pure electric vehicles. Ford Focus Electric uses an advanced active liquid cooling and heating system to precondition and regulate the temperature in its larger, more complex lithium-ion battery system.

The active liquid system heats or chills a coolant before pumping it through the battery cooling system. This loop regulates temperature throughout the system against external conditions. On hot days, chilled liquid absorbs heat from the batteries, dispersing it through a radiator before pumping it through the chiller again. On cold days, heated liquid warms the batteries, gradually bringing the system's temperature to a level that allows it to efficiently accept charge energy and provide enough discharge power for expected vehicle performance.

"Ford Focus Electric is the culmination of years of research and development," said Kuzak. "More importantly, it's the start of an exciting new era for Ford and our customers."
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This thing looks like a homerun btw.
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The looks are great but including all that technological stuff in a car with a shelf life of 10+ years is bound to disappoint. In the technology sector everyone is made to get on an upgrade treadmill - you can't do that with a car. It would be intersting to see if Ford starts charging for software updates how many people would go for it.
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Love everything about the car....except the all electric powerplant.

I'll take the turbo gasoline engine, please!


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