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You can tell they really tried hard in the exterior to make it look like a new vehicle. Most people will think it's new. The interior, I am not sure of, I would have to sit inside and touch and feel. There is an effort in the interior also. The only thing I do not like is the exterior's profile.
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It looks retarded and the big rectangular fog lights look stupid IMO.
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I really like the interior. I just hope its not ALL hollow plastic.

Exterior takes some getting used to.
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Damn can we say "glare"

I looks a lot better with the headlights off
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Hellooooooooo Chevy Malibu....
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It's hideous!! I want a Euro focus
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I mean, seriously, it's not even a fair comparison the Focus is so teh suck.
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Another miss for Ford. Way too busy inside and out. And those tiny rear lights look strange.
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What is all that junk in the display above the center vents? Doesn't look like it could be navigation...MID?

I like the back except for the tail lights. Jesus Ford, would it be that difficult for you to make a car that doesn't have the brake light and turn signal functions both integrated into one bulb?

The front is OK except for the stupid fog lights. Looks like someone grabbed the biggest set of rectangular lights from the shelf at Wal-Mart and stuffed them into a too-small opening in the bumper.
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Damn can we say "glare"

I looks a lot better with the headlights off
too bright!!!
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Cost......Go to Ford Europe and convert pounds to the USD of various Focus models.

The base Focus costs 11,195 British pounds = $21,688.0735 U.S. dollars

Would you pay 21,688 plus TTL for a Focus?
Dude, you've been on these boards for a lot time. Longer than I. You can't do a straight conversion. They have a 14% VAT on top of road taxes out the wazoo.

It's never 1:1 with British pounds.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
You can tell they really tried hard in the exterior to make it look like a new vehicle. Most people will think it's new. The interior, I am not sure of, I would have to sit inside and touch and feel. There is an effort in the interior also. The only thing I do not like is the exterior's profile.
To the extent that Ford did a helluva job on the "facelift". It's much better than the current NA Focus....it looks less like the rental fleet car it used to look like. The interior is "interesting" if the materials are cheap then it will end up being a poor attempt at the interior. The exterior is not exactly my cup of tea, but I give Ford alot of credit for what they did to "facelift" the old...and I mean old design of the Focus.
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not one angle of this car looks good
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that is sooo outdated....
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Dude, you've been on these boards for a lot time. Longer than I. You can't do a straight conversion. They have a 14% VAT on top of road taxes out the wazoo.

It's never 1:1 with British pounds.
I don't work at a currency exchange . I simply plugged the costs into Google and it converted it using the prices listed on Ford's website.
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First Drive: 2008 Ford Focus

The Focus Gets in Sync

By Brian Moody, Road Test Editor Email | Blog
Date posted: 09-27-2007
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Ford is probably the last automaker you think of when it comes to high tech. Perhaps that's why it chose Seattle, with its backdrop of computer technology and trendy WiFi-equipped coffeehouses, to showcase the substantially revised 2008 Ford Focus.

Some 10 million people visited the 1962 World's Fair in Seattle. It offered a glimpse of a space age future that never quite materialized, but it left Seattle with a high-tech legacy that continues to dominate the city just like the Space Needle, one of the fair's last remaining landmarks. The fact that Microsoft's world headquarters is located in nearby Redmond, Washington, doesn't hurt the city's high-tech image either.

The 2008 Focus serves as Ford's own high-tech world's fair on wheels. It introduces Sync, a voice-activated interface developed by Microsoft that connects with cell phones, media players and USB music storage.

Ford Focus? Microsoft? Wrap your imagination around that one.

New Look, Low Price
Although the 2000 Focus came to the U.S. as the last word in European driving dynamics, the Focus hasn't exactly evolved into something that people aspire to own. That doesn't mean the Focus is unpopular, since 2004 Ford has sold nearly 700,000 of them second only to the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla. So if you're just out of college and caught in purchase limbo between the Civic and Corolla (and maybe the Honda Fit and Scion tC), then the revised 2008 Focus is trying to find you.

It shares all the dimensions of the four-door Focus sedan almost exactly, including its 102.9-inch wheelbase and 175.0-inch overall length. Curiously, the coupe is 67.9 inches wide while the sedan is a tenth of an inch narrower at 67.8 inches in overall width. The coupe and sedan are now the only choices you get in the Focus, as the previous Euro-style hatchback and wagon never moved the needle on buyer enthusiasm in the U.S., Ford tells us.

The most obvious change to the 2008 Focus is the new sheet metal. It doesn't threaten the adventurous look of the Honda Civic, but it doesn't spin away into design irrelevancy like the Nissan Sentra or Toyota Corolla, either. With a prominent chrome bar across the front grille, plus headlights that have been pulled back at the corners, the Focus now has a visual connection to the Ford Fusion.

This isn't much in the way of design flair, but it's all Ford has to offer in this country, as the new Euro-specification Ford Focus ST is too expensive for importation to America.

Improved, but Not New
There are some improvements hidden beneath the revised sheet metal. The structural bar that crosses the chassis between the A-pillars has more rigidity, and there's been some improvement in the way everything fits together. Some acoustic measures dramatically reduce wind noise and others isolate road rumble. But basically everything here is familiar in function as well as form.

You can start with the 2.0-liter Duratec inline-4, now making 140 horsepower at 6,000 rpm. There's also a squeaky-clean version of this engine for states with squeaky-clean air emissions regulations, and you get 132 hp in a PZEV-certified (partial zero-emissions vehicle) car that makes a hybrid seem like an expensive self-indulgence. You can forget about the 150-hp 2.3-liter Duratec, though.

The revised 2.0-liter Duratec motor provides more than adequate torque, with 136 pound-feet at 4,250 rpm, so it never feels weak or sluggish to us. It's also remarkably quiet at anything less than full throttle. A four-speed automatic seems like little more than yester-tech of the 1990s, but David Foulkes, Ford's vehicle engineering manager for small and medium cars, says, "Shift points have been revised and the final-drive ratio is [taller] to improve fuel economy."

The Focus automatic is utterly transparent, downshifting smoothly and upshifting with hardly a noticeable reaction. Even on hills, this four-speed never hunted between ratios, proof that too few gear ratios are better than too many. But the bottom line here is fuel economy, not performance. The automatic delivers 24 mpg city and 33 mpg highway on the EPA cycle, and the five-speed manual transmission improves the highway number only to 34 mpg.

Sporty-ish Handling
The 2000 Focus came to America with the blessings of Ford's best ride-and-handling experts, an alert, alive and exciting package that set the standard for small cars from America, Europe and Japan. But since then, fewer and fewer people seem to care about such things beneath a Ford badge, so maybe it's no surprise that the 2008 Focus gets softer springs for a plush ride and a nice big front antiroll bar for straight-line stability.

All isn't lost, for while the Focus is no Mazda 3, it hasn't descended to the depths of the Toyota Corolla either. Once you step up from the base S-model Focus and its 195/60R15 Hankook tires to SE and SES trim, you get a rear antiroll bar to balance the chassis and 205/50R16 Pirelli tires to take advantage of it. Overall, there's noticeably less body roll than before, while the steering (always this car's strong point) proves quick and precise.

On the open highway, the 2008 Focus feels stable and secure, more like a midsize sedan than a compact. Impacts from potholes and expansion joints are also effectively muted, and this gives the Focus a feeling of quality compared to the harsh-riding Honda Fit or soggy Scion tC.

Fresh Interior, New Technology
The interior is also completely reworked with new gauges, a different steering wheel and new seats. The seats prove supportive for long driving stints, while the interior environment is fresher and much more attractive. Most of all, you'll notice blue illumination for the gauges and adjustable ambient lighting for the cupholders and footwells. See what you started, Scion?

Several Ford models are featuring Sync this year and the Focus is the first one we've tried. Sync is basically a voice-recognition system that allows for complete hands-free use of cell phones and portable music players. It sounds like one of those hokey demonstrations you see at a world's fair, but this one really works. Sync is standard for the Focus SES and a $395 option on lower trim levels.

Sync works with Apple iPods, Microsoft's Zune and other "Plays for Sure" portable devices like iRiver and SanDisk. If you don't know what a Zune is, skip the next paragraph.

Sync works like this: Press a button, say a command followed by artist name, song name, genre, album title or playlist, and then Sync finds the selected track. There's even an option that lets Sync find music similar to what's already playing, based on genre, beats per minute, rhythm and pacing of the song — just say "similar music."

Sync also offers control over a Bluetooth-enabled cell phone — as many as six cell phones at a time, in fact. Unlike other in-car Bluetooth systems, you don't have to make a list of voice tags, as Sync automatically gets into your phone and builds its list directly from there. Sync also has a limited ability to send and receive text messages.

This is pretty advanced stuff considering that some of the cars with which the Focus competes don't even offer the most basic technological features. (We're looking at you, Corolla.)

Practically Perfect
The future of a generation ago never really materialized. Look no further than Monsanto's House of the Future or the '62 Ford Seattle-ite to see innovations that ultimately proved impractical and awkward. In contrast, what Ford has done with Sync is taken advanced technology and made it fit seamlessly into our lives.

Really, that's what Ford has done with the revised 2008 Focus as a whole. All the things that made the original Focus a unique driving experience have been firmly pushed aside, leaving behind a small American-built (Wayne, Michigan) car that's unlikely to be a passionate purchase for anyone.

At the same time, the 2008 Ford Focus is made to fit seamlessly into the lives of compact-car shoppers. Its affordable price, uncomplicated utility and unique electronic entertainment reflect the lessons that Ford has tried to absorb from the success of Scion.
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Tech? Who cares. I'd buy just about anything over this ugly-ass Focus. Why can't Ford ever make this car actually look good?! It is consistent at one thing and thing only: being U-G-L-Y.

Come on Ford, you are such a joke.
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As far as I'm concerned, Ford could fall off the face of the earth and I wouldn't complain. They have done nothing but prove how worthless and incompetent they are at creating a product any consumer would actually want.

Just put old Ford out of its misery already; let's get this long slow death over with.
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its that same damn car thats been out since day one... how many 'facelifts' can they give it

BLEH
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Another strike out for ford. Now if they changed the name to Escort, then maybe, just maybe........I can't even do it anymore.

Here's a list of people that Ford should fire:

The design team for Ford of America
The person responsible for hiring those people
The person who approved those hires
The person who approved the designs of the 500, "new" taurus, this focus, and the last refresh focus
The person who thought it would be a good idea to have Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury basically have identical lineups
Anyone with the last name Ford.
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Next Gen. Ford Focus

for the Euro market:




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This new 'facelift' on this Focus is just horrible, and it hurts to see the European market get such a nice car and we get this ugly kitchen appliance...

But that's the way it usually is
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This new 'facelift' on this Focus is just horrible, and it hurts to see the European market get such a nice car and we get this ugly kitchen appliance...

But that's the way it usually is
I honestly don't get it. They don't have the excuse that they don't know what the public wants, because all they have to do is come onto these kinds of sites and read what people say about their products and the company. They just don't seem to care, and keep giving us the shit that no one else wants. Until people stop buying it, they won't get it. I honestly don't know why someone would buy a Focus when there are plenty of other better cars in the class to choose from.
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That Euro Focus is not. It's a shame its to expensive to bring it to the N.A.
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Too bad NA won't get the euro focus.
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You have to wonder though, how much would it really cost to make the car NA ready?

Now compare that to the cost of develpment/design/tooling/manufacturing of this butt ugly NA Focus...

Which seems like a smarter choice, in the long run?
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i love that euro focus. if they brought over the mondeo i would buy one
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Ford thinks Americans like ugly cars or something...
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You have to wonder though, how much would it really cost to make the car NA ready?

Now compare that to the cost of develpment/design/tooling/manufacturing of this butt ugly NA Focus...

Which seems like a smarter choice, in the long run?
Ford N.A. shouldn't even have the ability to develop/design/tool/manufacture cars. Those rights should be reserved for their European counterparts. They should do the same thing GM did with Saturn. That would save the company a good chunk of change.

On a side note I went on vacation to Europe this past summer and was really impressed by the Ford products over there. I actually wanted to go to a Ford dealer to check out the cars. Now how many of us here in the states have ever said that? And not just for a Shelby Mustang or to gawk at the GT but for a practicle everyday car. The way to get people to buy products is to get their interest and nothing does that for me here in the states.
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From Left Lane News:
Ford has taken the wraps off of its next-generation Focus ST. Coming on the heels of the recently unveiled Focus ST500, the newest Focus appears to have been heavily influenced by the Ford Verve concept first shown at this year's Frankfurt Motor Show. The rear of the ST also receives a new bumper and diffuser.

As with the current model, both 3 and 5-door configurations will be available. Power for the 2008 Focus ST will come from a 2.5L turbocharged five-cylinder, rated at 222 horsepower.
Prices for the three-door Focus ST will start at £17,995 with the range-topping ST-3 stickering from £19,995. Five-door models will add about another £600 to the three-door's price.
The Focus ST will go on sale in Europe in March 2008 with no current plans to bring it to the U.S. However, Ford's European kinetic look could make it across the pond in the coming years. Just last week, Ford announced plans to develop a global design theme, which would likely incorporate more of its kinetic look than its North American "Bold American" design style.
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Just last week, Ford announced plans to develop a global design theme, which would likely incorporate only its kinetic look instead of its North American "Bold American" design style.
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Man talk about sugarcoating..."Bold American" design style?
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So not only is it borrowing styling queues from Volvo now it's borrowing the drivetrain as well? Does anyone else make a turbo 5 cyl?
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So not only is it borrowing styling queues from Volvo now it's borrowing the drivetrain as well? Does anyone else make a turbo 5 cyl?
Might as well leverage those economies of scale to make their ownership in Volvo more logical.
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Exactly.
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What is? The Euro or American Focus? Or Both?
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