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Yumcha 12-06-2006 12:42 PM

Ford: European Models to Arrive in 2010 Speculation
 
OMG...they are considering it...!??!? DO IT! ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY DO IT...!!! :what:

This is a NO-BRAINER!!

From Leftlanenews...


For years, Ford fans and industry analysts have begged the automaker to import its superior Europe-only products to the United States. Not only would consumers be left with better cars, but proponents reckon Ford would like sell more, too.

Now, U.K. trade publication Just-Auto is reporting Ford could bring many of its European offerings to the United States as soon as next year. Models currently being considered include the Euro Focus, the all-new Mondeo, and the S-Max and Galaxy people movers. Further details were not given, but the models being looked at seem like obvious choices. Ford fans have been particularly adamant that the automaker bring the European Focus (pictured) stateside.

Most previous reports have indicated Ford had no plans to directly import its Euro-spec vehicles to the 'States. However, the company's dire financial situation may be prompting some "bold moves" on the part of Ford's management.

LuvMyTSX 12-06-2006 12:53 PM

DUH! What have so many people been saying on Azine for so long?!

MeehowsBRZ 12-06-2006 01:44 PM

1.Acura needs V8s

2.Acura needs RWD or AWD cars to compete in the luxury market

3.The new "Advanced Sedan Concept" looks like :turd:

4.Ford should introduce its Euro cars in the NA market.


Yep, its there.

Fibonacci 12-06-2006 01:48 PM

^^ :werd: :werd: :werd: and :werd:

dom 12-06-2006 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Yumchah
This is a NO-BRAINER!!

Exactly why its unlikely to happen.

NM the focus, lets see the Falcon.

shrykhar 12-06-2006 02:07 PM

Only if the price remains about the same. Any higher, and they'll cannibalize Fusion sales ... and if they do that, they might as well scrap their (almost non-existent) entire car lineup.

Actually, that's not a bad idea, as long as they bring along a subcompact to slot under the Focus (i.e. Corolla:Yaris, Civic:Fit, Focus:Fiesta/Ka). Chevy positioned the Cobalt upmarket and used the Aveo to cover the cheapos, and Cobalt sales aren't half bad now.

Black Tire 12-06-2006 02:48 PM

about time. I read that Euro Ford are way ahead in quailty compared to the POS we get here.

CGTSX2004 12-06-2006 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by dom
Exactly why its unlikely to happen.

NM the focus, lets see the Falcon.

nope... Mondeo FTW! :goldcup:

Crazy Bimmer 12-06-2006 03:23 PM

:eek: holy crap that would rock.

Yumcha 12-06-2006 03:41 PM

If they couple this with the earlier rumors of bringing in Aussie cars...:what:







...my next car's a Ford! :what:

Moog-Type-S 12-06-2006 03:51 PM

:wish: Please Ford do it!!!!!!!!

Black Tire 12-06-2006 04:09 PM

yeh The Falcon looks cool

http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/BlobS...ure&blobkey=id

Infamous425 12-06-2006 04:50 PM

good news but way late. even if they brought them over now i dont think it would skyrocket sales because the competition has made their cars more 'euro' now also.

charliemike 12-06-2006 06:44 PM

I'd definitely look at a Mondeo ST 220!

Moog-Type-S 12-06-2006 06:48 PM

Mondeo wagon :drool:
http://www.ford.co.uk/spg/getImage.a...al3_lrggal.jpg
http://www.ford.co.uk/spg/getImage.a...al2_lrggal.jpg
http://www.ford.co.uk/spg/getImage.a...e=gal-lgr2.gif

heyitsme 12-06-2006 07:00 PM

Think it would be tough to import the cars here without jacking the prices up.

Yumcha 12-06-2006 07:04 PM

Mondeo wagon? Screw that...Gimme the Typhoon!


http://www.fpv.com.au/cars/f6-typhoon/overview.aspx

Crazy Bimmer 12-06-2006 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by heyitsme
Think it would be tough to import the cars here without jacking the prices up.


:werd: Americans wouldnt be able to rock a "focus" for $30k +

biker 12-06-2006 07:07 PM

That Mondeo wagon would be so much better for most family's needs for extra room vs. the typical SUV.

MeehowsBRZ 12-06-2006 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
:werd: Americans wouldnt be able to rock a "focus" for $30k +


$30,000+ for a focus would be hard to swallow considering a Mustang GT costs around $25,000.

gavriil 12-07-2006 01:15 AM

Guys it is not very easy nor cheap to take a car that was designed for Europe and have it sold here. It takes a lot of certification-related work that in the end will cost more than they will make.

However, that does not mean it cant be done right. Right is what GM will start doing as of the next generation cars produced anywere and for any market. Every car designed will be designed with the planet in mind. A good example is the next Opel Corsa. It will be a car that will easily be sold everywhere there is market for it with no expensive modifications. Ford, I am sure, is thinking of the same thing. The above move is a temp move due to the panic that they are in becasue of their terrible performance.

Moog-Type-S 12-07-2006 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by biker
That Mondeo wagon would be so much better for most family's needs for extra room vs. the typical SUV.

:werd: and it looks so much better than an SUV box on wheels :toocool:

Fibonacci 12-07-2006 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by gavriil
Guys it is not very easy nor cheap to take a car that was designed for Europe and have it sold here. It takes a lot of certification-related work that in the end will cost more than they will make.


Don't forget exchange rates! Euro/Dollar is going to make anything imported from Euroland at least 30% more expensive than a vehicle produced here. Just ask moeronn when he returns from getting his heiney spanked by whiskers how he likes it.

SSMTL01 12-07-2006 03:43 PM

Ford will probably just bring the designs over thinking that is what is selling and scrap the higher quality parts.

SpeedyV6 12-07-2006 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by gavriil
Guys it is not very easy nor cheap to take a car that was designed for Europe and have it sold here. It takes a lot of certification-related work that in the end will cost more than they will make.

However, that does not mean it cant be done right. Right is what GM will start doing as of the next generation cars produced anywere and for any market. Every car designed will be designed with the planet in mind. A good example is the next Opel Corsa. It will be a car that will easily be sold everywhere there is market for it with no expensive modifications. Ford, I am sure, is thinking of the same thing. The above move is a temp move due to the panic that they are in becasue of their terrible performance.

True, but it would certainly make sense to design cars to a common standard so that they can readily be sold in one location or another with only minor modification. When I read of how much GM spent to redesign the Holden Monaro so it could meet US safety regulations it seemed ridiculous, especially considering that the platform the GTO uses was based on a 2 door version of the one used by the old Cadillac Catera.

shrykhar 12-07-2006 04:10 PM

Common standard is probably a good thing, but there's still some pitfalls to taht approach. Remember the 5th gen Accord -- too small for the US, too big for Europe/Japan, leading to Honda's interesting branding thing now with the US TSX/Accord Euro-R and US Accord/Inspire.

Still, beats the crapmobiles they have here. I was thinking, a higher spec Focus would cannibalize Fusion sales, but then I realized ... what Fusion sales? :shrug:

JediMindTricks 12-07-2006 05:14 PM

i've seen the new mondeo in casino royale, and it was hot...

...anyone got pics of the euro focus?

biker 12-07-2006 05:18 PM


=shrykhar

Still, beats the crapmobiles they have here. I was thinking, a higher spec Focus would cannibalize Fusion sales, but then I realized ... what Fusion sales? :shrug:
It might not sell like the old Taurus but sales have been pretty good. It's not a bad car it's just that the European models like the Mondeo are even better.

Moog-Type-S 12-07-2006 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
i've seen the new mondeo in casino royale, and it was hot...

...anyone got pics of the euro focus?

http://www.caradisiac.com/media/imag...cus-st-s4b.jpg
http://www.carpages.co.uk/ford/ford_...t_08_10_05.jpg
http://www.autoimage.cz/ford/Ford_Focus_ST-014.jpg

shrykhar 12-07-2006 08:50 PM

^^ Wow, that's nice. :what:



Originally Posted by biker
It might not sell like the old Taurus but sales have been pretty good. It's not a bad car it's just that the European models like the Mondeo are even better.

I dunno, I commute to work daily in moderate to heavy traffic, and the Mercury/Ford cars stand out to me because I see so few of them. I remember the Milan's weird taillights, but it's been so long since I saw a 500 or Fusion that I have no idea what they look like. I mean, I've heard about that 3 bar grille they're grafting onto everything, and I still have yet to see it in person.

JediMindTricks 12-08-2006 12:26 PM

thanks, moog!

Sly Raskal 12-08-2006 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by dom
Exactly why its unlikely to happen.

NM the focus, lets see the Falcon.

:werd:

65 Fury Convert 12-08-2006 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Black Tire

Shouldn't your comment be in red? That Falcon looks like a Hertz rental car. Sorry, just my :2cents: That car wouldn't make me switch from Acura.

gavriil 01-29-2007 01:36 PM

Ford considers bringing Euro products Stateside
 
Ford considers bringing Euro products Stateside - - By AMY WILSON | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS - - Source: Autoweek


DETROIT -- Ford Motor Co. may sell European products such as the Mondeo, S-Max and Transit in the United States.

"The probability is very high" that Ford will tap its global product bank for U.S. consumers in the near term, CEO Alan Mulally told Automotive News late last week.

He spoke after Ford announced a $12.7 billion loss for 2006, the worst financial results in its 103-year history. Dragging down those results was a dismal performance in North America, where Ford reported a 2006 automotive operating loss of $6.1 billion before taxes and charges.

By contrast, Ford made $469 million last year in Europe, where its product portfolio is garnering accolades.

To restore the beleaguered automaker to profitability, Mulally wants to create a lineup of cars and trucks that can be sold in multiple regions. Since arriving from Boeing last September, Mulally has criticized Ford's disjointed product development, which prevents it from selling the same vehicles in Europe and America.

Quick boost

The S-Max crossover, Mondeo sedan and Transit, a boxy commercial van, are European products that could be sold in the United States, Mulally said last week.

The Transit family could give Ford's North American operation an immediate shot in the arm. The Transit Connect is expected to go on sale in the United States as soon as the second half of this year.

The Transit Connect, a commercial van smaller than the regular Transit, comes in short- and long- wheelbase versions that are 168.4 and 178.1 inches -- making the smaller version roughly the length of a Chrysler PT Cruiser.

European base prices range from $19,215 to $27,483. Ford sold 1,761 units of the Transit Connect in Europe through the first 11 months of 2006.

"What a neat vehicle for commerce in the United States," Mulally said of the Transit. "We need a small utility, a really high-utilization vehicle."

The vehicle would be aimed at small item delivery, such as flowers, and tradespersons who don't carry bulky equipment.

Mulally didn't confirm Ford's plans for the Transit Connect. But Ford has shown the vehicle to some U.S. dealers and analysts, telling them it would be sold here soon.

The van, which sells in Europe with a 1.8-liter diesel engine, likely would be imported from Ford's assembly plant in Turkey. Some analysts say Ford could begin North American production of the Transit Connect in 2010. Ford won't confirm that plan.

Another strong candidate for import would be the S-Max, a crossover based on the mid-sized car platform that underpins the next-generation Mondeo. It was named the European Car of the Year for 2007. Ford is working on a plan to bring the S-Max to the United States, sources said.

Tricky proposition

The mid-sized Mondeo sedan is a trickier proposition. In Europe, Ford will begin selling the next-generation Mondeo this spring. But it overlaps in size with the relatively new U.S.-market Fusion sedan and is more expensive.

Also, Ford's track record in bringing the Mondeo to the U.S. market is bumpy. The Mondeo-derived Ford Contour and Mercury Mystique sold poorly in America in the mid-1990s, hurt by a combination of high price and tight interior space compared to competitors.

The Fusion and Mondeo are built on separate platforms. Ford executives have signaled that the vehicles eventually will share a common global platform but probably not until early next decade.

"Anything we design new will be looked at that way," Mulally said. "You get a chance to think that out initially the first time. And the more you think about more global applications, then the more you're going to get out of it."

It's unlikely Ford will sell the Mondeo in the United States before the platforms converge, some analysts say.

But Mulally will be the ultimate arbiter, and the redesigned Mondeo caught his eye in a recent film appearance. "When I went to see the James Bond movie and I saw that Mondeo, I wanted it," Mulally said.

If Mulally does bring the Mondeo to the United States, Ford will have to find a special place for it, perhaps as a premium entry above the Fusion or for Mercury, said Jim Hall, a vice president in the Southfield, Mich., office of the consulting company AutoPacific.

Mulally said he hasn't completed plans to import the European vehicles. "But those are all under consideration," he said. "They just all make sense."

Jens Dralle contributed to this report
http://cwimg.sv.publicus.com/apps/pb...=1528&MaxW=800

S-Max above

charliemike 01-29-2007 02:22 PM

YAY, a Mondeo ST220 after all! WOOT!

Just don't Americanize it!

afici0nad0 01-29-2007 02:47 PM

would there be significant exchange rate, UK->US vehicle regulations, etc., costs required to bring some of those UK fords to the US?

Moog-Type-S 01-29-2007 03:09 PM

http://www.jonfry.com/uploaded_image...tUK-726835.jpg
Ford Tansit

biker 01-29-2007 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by afici0nad0
would there be significant exchange rate, UK->US vehicle regulations, etc., costs required to bring some of those UK fords to the US?

That's the least of Ford's issues - the cannibalization of its own sales is the main one as the Mondeo would eat into either Fusion or 500 sales.

Time For Sleeep 01-29-2007 03:32 PM

unless i missed it.

not one mention of the euro focus.


... sucks.

dom 01-29-2007 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by biker
That's the least of Ford's issues - the cannibalization of its own sales is the main one as the Mondeo would eat into either Fusion or 500 sales.


They already announced a global styling initiative so I'd presume the Modeo would become the Fusion. Or the Fusion goes bye-bye. No room for both.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/...-design-theme/


Ford CEO Alan Mulally has a vision for "one Ford" unified by a global design theme from North America to Europe. North American design chief Peter Horbury and European design chief Martin Smith are said to be developing a common design language for all Ford-brand cars, Ford design vice president J Mays told Automotive News.

The new design palette will eventually replace Ford Europe's "kinetic" design theme, and Ford North America's three-bar grille. "We feel we'll be able to get to a common design language that's bold, as it should be for the American market, and is absolutely applicable to the European market as well," Mays said.


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