Ford: Escape News
#82
I'm not saying all Camcord or Civrolla buyers are like that. But a good amount of them are. It's seldom "oh I like X feature and Y feature and how they improved Z and how it's better than how A", it's usually "oh, it's an X/Y so I know I made the right choice."
#84
אני עומד עם ישראל
CR-V and Escape look to be winners we'll test drive both.
#85
I drive a Subata.
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Both cars look pretty decent.
#86
Senior Moderator
^^ Let's be honest, most of the stuff listed as differences are pretty much nearly fact.
The Escape is going to keep pace if not go out in front of the competition.
The CRV at least at this point is barely keeping pace, and is most definitely not a class leader in power train, and amenities.
Am I wrong
The Escape is going to keep pace if not go out in front of the competition.
The CRV at least at this point is barely keeping pace, and is most definitely not a class leader in power train, and amenities.
Am I wrong
But what tech a vehicle has isn't the only thing that determines which is better.
#87
Senior Moderator
While you're right that the best seller isn't always the best vehicle, IMO most of the time it is. People may be sheep, but sheep aren't complete idiots. There are generally good reason's why people flock to something.
Last edited by dom; 11-14-2011 at 09:48 AM.
#88
The sizzle in the Steak
Nifty paint colors?
Seriously now, when another vehicle dominates the other in 85% of the areas in terms of leading powertrain, technology, and available options...what is left?
Oh I know....Honda resale value!! :minister.
#89
Senior Moderator
Ok then what is left when one has a better powertrain, and more technology & options?
Nifty paint colors?
Seriously now, when another vehicle dominates the other in 85% of the areas in terms of leading powertrain, technology, and available options...what is left?
Oh I know....Honda resale value!! :minister.
Nifty paint colors?
Seriously now, when another vehicle dominates the other in 85% of the areas in terms of leading powertrain, technology, and available options...what is left?
Oh I know....Honda resale value!! :minister.
For example, the CR-V could potentially perform better, get better FE. have more cargo, comfort and offer a better ride. All hypothetical of course.
The fact that it doesn't have DI, 6AT and push button start doesn't automatically disqualify it from being better. A real life example being a few 2.4's out there with DI that don't match the HP or FE from Honda's 2.4.
Again, not suggesting that CR-V is better, but lets wait and see what happens before writing it off.
SSFTSX out.
#90
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ No turbo either :wink:
#91
Race Director
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...-fuel-stingy/1
The 2013 Ford Escape was just unveiled and it shows a dramatic styling change. Gone is the boxy, utilitarian SUV look and the new Escape becomes more curvy and Hyundai-like. Ford is also touting its fuel economy and technology.
The new version of the Ford Escape will have a rear tailgate that can be operated remotely with the swipe of a foot or leg under the rear bumper. The idea is that a driver toting an armload of grocery bags will have a hands-free solutionto getting into their vehicle.
The Escape will gain an estimated 5 miles a gallon through advanced engines. It will have both the option of 1.6-liter and 2-liter versions of the turbocharged four-cylinder Ecoboost engine. There will be no six-cylinder option.
Called the Kuga in Europe and Asia, the new Escape is in keeping with Ford's goal of selling the same vehicles worldwide. In the U.S., it arrives this spring. It's supposed to look, gulp, sexy.
"We wanted to create the impression of an athlete, like a runner or a swimmer, in the new body," Martin Smith, Ford's European design director, said in a statement.
Ford also plans on packing it with technology. Besides its magically opening tailgate, Escape will come with Ford's Sync in-car communications system and a blind-spot protection system, and will be the first Ford SUV to get a system that better controls the vehicle through a sharp turn.
The new version of the Ford Escape will have a rear tailgate that can be operated remotely with the swipe of a foot or leg under the rear bumper. The idea is that a driver toting an armload of grocery bags will have a hands-free solutionto getting into their vehicle.
The Escape will gain an estimated 5 miles a gallon through advanced engines. It will have both the option of 1.6-liter and 2-liter versions of the turbocharged four-cylinder Ecoboost engine. There will be no six-cylinder option.
Called the Kuga in Europe and Asia, the new Escape is in keeping with Ford's goal of selling the same vehicles worldwide. In the U.S., it arrives this spring. It's supposed to look, gulp, sexy.
"We wanted to create the impression of an athlete, like a runner or a swimmer, in the new body," Martin Smith, Ford's European design director, said in a statement.
Ford also plans on packing it with technology. Besides its magically opening tailgate, Escape will come with Ford's Sync in-car communications system and a blind-spot protection system, and will be the first Ford SUV to get a system that better controls the vehicle through a sharp turn.
#93
Senior Moderator
Looks like a winner to me. Ford has stepped up the game big time. Any one who has played with the Sync system will tell you how nice it is, it would be nice if honda would come up with something. I was in the new explorer yesterday for half a day and the inst cluster with all the different information/gauges you can scroll thru was really nice.
#94
The sizzle in the Steak
Three four-cylinder options, two with EcoBoost, no V6
As reported previously on these pages, Ford is continuing its engine downsizing strategy by deep-sixing the Escape’s V6 option and relying on a powertrain lineup consisting exclusively of four-cylinder motors.
The biggest news is a pair of EcoBoost offerings that include a top-end 2.0-liter variant and an efficiency-leading 1.6-liter. With an estimated 237 horsepower and 250 lb-ft of torque (Ford is still finalizing power ratings), the 2.0-liter offers virtually the same horsepower count as the V6 but produces a useful 27 lb-ft of extra twist while also promising improved mileage. The 1.6-liter is expected to serve up 173 horsepower and 177 lb-ft of torque while managing at least 33 mpg on the highway.
Both mills include turbocharging and direct fuel-injection technologies while also adding twin independent variable camshaft timing (Ti-VCT) to the range of EcoBoost features. Exclusive to the Ecoboost motors is an active grille shutter system that opens grille slats when extra cooling air is needed, such as stop and go driving situations, while at highway speeds the slats automatically close to improve aerodynamics and eke out extra mileage. Ford says that the new Escape is nearly 10 percent more aerodynamic overall.
Base-model Escapes will utilize an updated version of the old model’s 2.5-liter four that makes 168 horsepower and 167 lb-ft of torque. Sharing a host of components with the 2.0-liter Ecoboost, the mill is expected to offer better low-end torque and five percent better fuel economy than before (putting highway mileage in the 29-30 mpg range).
Partnering with each of the Escape’s engines will be an efficient six-speed “SelectShift” automatic transmission that allows manual gear changes via a switch on the left side of the gear selector.
Although Ford has yet to finalize fuel economy with the EPA, it promises best-in-class fuel economy.
As reported previously on these pages, Ford is continuing its engine downsizing strategy by deep-sixing the Escape’s V6 option and relying on a powertrain lineup consisting exclusively of four-cylinder motors.
The biggest news is a pair of EcoBoost offerings that include a top-end 2.0-liter variant and an efficiency-leading 1.6-liter. With an estimated 237 horsepower and 250 lb-ft of torque (Ford is still finalizing power ratings), the 2.0-liter offers virtually the same horsepower count as the V6 but produces a useful 27 lb-ft of extra twist while also promising improved mileage. The 1.6-liter is expected to serve up 173 horsepower and 177 lb-ft of torque while managing at least 33 mpg on the highway.
Both mills include turbocharging and direct fuel-injection technologies while also adding twin independent variable camshaft timing (Ti-VCT) to the range of EcoBoost features. Exclusive to the Ecoboost motors is an active grille shutter system that opens grille slats when extra cooling air is needed, such as stop and go driving situations, while at highway speeds the slats automatically close to improve aerodynamics and eke out extra mileage. Ford says that the new Escape is nearly 10 percent more aerodynamic overall.
Base-model Escapes will utilize an updated version of the old model’s 2.5-liter four that makes 168 horsepower and 167 lb-ft of torque. Sharing a host of components with the 2.0-liter Ecoboost, the mill is expected to offer better low-end torque and five percent better fuel economy than before (putting highway mileage in the 29-30 mpg range).
Partnering with each of the Escape’s engines will be an efficient six-speed “SelectShift” automatic transmission that allows manual gear changes via a switch on the left side of the gear selector.
Although Ford has yet to finalize fuel economy with the EPA, it promises best-in-class fuel economy.
#95
The sizzle in the Steak
Love the ability to open the rear hatch and turn on the lights with just swiping your leg under the rear bumper.
#96
Senior Moderator
Seems a revised version of the old 2.5 will be the base engine.
Not sure I like the idea of so many engine options. Means the 2.0L turbo will probably be very pricey. Other than that, it looks great.
The standard engine in the 2013 Ford Escape is an updated version of the 2.5-liter four-cylinder engine. Ford says that engine will deliver an estimated 168 horsepower; the current 2.5 makes 171 hp.
#97
The sizzle in the Steak
#98
The sizzle in the Steak
#100
The sizzle in the Steak
...don't forget is has a push button start too.
#101
Senior Moderator
Still not convinced its better than the CR-V
But we do know that the base CR-V with the 2.4 won't be rated as good on fuel.
2WD 2012 CR-V 23 MPG City & 31 MPG Highway
4WD 2012 CR-V 22 MPG City & 30 MPG Highway
Don't care too much about the push button start, but the proximity lock/unlock is a must for any vehicle that intends to carry kids. Hell, any vehicle period. This is what Honda just doesn't seem to get yet.
Look forward to looking this and new CR-V over very carefully in Feb.
But we do know that the base CR-V with the 2.4 won't be rated as good on fuel.
2WD 2012 CR-V 23 MPG City & 31 MPG Highway
4WD 2012 CR-V 22 MPG City & 30 MPG Highway
Don't care too much about the push button start, but the proximity lock/unlock is a must for any vehicle that intends to carry kids. Hell, any vehicle period. This is what Honda just doesn't seem to get yet.
Look forward to looking this and new CR-V over very carefully in Feb.
#102
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ Put down the bong. :wink:
I can't see the CRV offering anything better than the Escape.
Honda is clearly outclassed and out "tech" here.
Looks like the CRV went all civic cheap on the interior, while the Escape stepped it up in the design and quality department.
I can't see the CRV offering anything better than the Escape.
Honda is clearly outclassed and out "tech" here.
Looks like the CRV went all civic cheap on the interior, while the Escape stepped it up in the design and quality department.
#103
Moderator
#104
Senior Moderator
That interior is fantastic!
#105
3500 lbs towing...
Does it look like the green ones are longer?
Does it look like the green ones are longer?
#106
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ Perspective
#108
I drive a Subata.
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Looks very nice to me. wow.
I wouldn't mind getting a Ford as I'm a huge Mustang fan.
I wouldn't mind getting a Ford as I'm a huge Mustang fan.
#109
I like this new Escape. It looks good. It's got a lot of nice features. It gets good MPGs. It's got a really nice motor. It's good value. I wonder how it drives though.
I like the Edge too.
Ford's on a roll.
Hyundai's on a roll.
Honda....... Not so much.
#110
I think Ford's getting rid of the hybrid version since they have the EcoBoost 1.6 now.
Ford Press Release
Ford Press Release
All-New Ford Escape: Smarter Utility Vehicle Saves Customers Fuel, Money; New Technologies to Make Owners' Lives Easier
• Ford's newest sport utility vehicle (SUV) arrives next year, bringing clever technologies and features designed to make life easier, and fuel economy projected to top any vehicle of its kind on the market
• Versatile vehicle features new hands-free technology – including liftgate with motion-sensing technology similar to video games' and upgraded MyFord Touch® system that makes connecting with digital devices on the go even easier
• New Escape's projected fuel economy is up to 5 mpg better than outgoing Escape; 1.6- and 2.0-liter EcoBoost® engines save customers fuel and money
• Customers globally will start seeing this sleek small SUV next year, too. Named the Ford Kuga in Europe and China, this vehicle makes its international debut at the Geneva Motor Show in March and will offer unique powertrains and features for customers in those markets
LOS ANGELES, Nov. 16, 2011 – The Ford Escape, America's best-selling SUV, will raise the bar even higher with the debut of an all-new model that features 11 new exclusive features and fuel economy projected to top any vehicle of its kind on the market today.
"We call our all-new Ford Escape the 'Smarter Utility Vehicle' because it offers the strengths that customers today really value – fuel economy, versatility and new technology that makes driving and living with the vehicle easier and more fun – all wrapped in a sleek, more modern design," said Derrick Kuzak, group vice president, Global Product Development. "Ford understands that more people every year are looking at vehicles like Escape, and we want to give them even more reasons to buy."
Sixty percent of Americans shopping for a vehicle next year will look at either a midsize car or small SUV, making Escape part of one of the most cross-shopped and fastest-growing segments in the auto industry.
"Escape is America's best-selling utility vehicle, and the Ford team has worked hard to make sure we deliver even more of what small SUV owners really want," Kuzak said.
In addition to more cargo volume behind the first and second rows than today's vehicle, the new Escape delivers:
• Eleven features no other small SUV offers
• Clever technologies that make Escape even more versatile, including an available hands-free power liftgate that allows quick and easy access to cargo with the kick of a foot
• Projected best fuel economy of any compact SUV, up to 5 mpg better than previous Escape
• Driving dynamics that make the drive experience more engaging on-road and a new Ford Intelligent 4WD System that provides even better traction off-road
• Sleek new design, with better interior materials and more finishing touches
Escape technology makes life better
An array of clever technologies adds to the new Escape's versatility, helping make life easier for its owners. Key features include:
• An available hands-free power liftgate brings new technology to the SUV market and is enabled by motion technology used in today's video game systems. A gentle kicking motion under the center of the rear bumper activates, unlocks and raises the liftgate when the driver has the Escape key fob. This allows quick and easy access to the cargo area without needing to set down packages or dig out keys. The same process closes the hatch
• SYNC® with MyFord Touch® offers multiple ways for customers to manage and control information through voice commands, menus accessed through controls on the steering wheel, touch screens, buttons or knobs. Upgraded system includes new look, making phone, navigation, entertainment and climate controls even easier to use
• Parallel parking the Escape is virtually stress-free with active park assist. With the press of a button, the system detects an available parallel parking space and automatically steers the vehicle into the space. Drivers control only the gas and brake pedals
• Maneuvering parking lots and traveling open roadways becomes even safer and less stressful with Escape's sensor-based BLIS® (Blind Spot Information System) with cross-traffic alert. BLIS sounds an alert when a vehicle is detected entering a blind spot. Cross-traffic alert warns if traffic is detected approaching from the sides, such as when Escape is leaving a parking space in reverse
• The all-new Ford Escape is the first Ford SUV to combine class-exclusive technology to automatically slow the vehicle when it's cornering too fast (Curve Control) or help accelerate through a turn (Torque Vectoring Control); a new Intelligent 4WD System helps deliver outstanding handling on pristine pavement and in adverse conditions as well, along with excellent traction off-road
Spirited performance with outstanding fuel economy
Escape offers Ford's broadest nameplate range of EcoBoost® engine choices yet. Strong fuel economy comes from either the available 2.0-liter EcoBoost engine or 1.6-liter EcoBoost engine, which makes its American debut in the new Escape.
Both new engines combine EcoBoost's core technologies of direct fuel injection and turbocharging and add twin independent variable camshaft timing (Ti-VCT) to deliver even better miles per gallon and save customers money on fuel.
In Escape, EcoBoost engines are mated to specially calibrated, six-speed SelectShift Automatic™ transmissions, which are standard and allow drivers who want more hands-on experiences to manually control gear selection from a switch on the left-hand side of the shifter.
The gearbox features a new torque converter for improved driving feel, silky smooth shifts and even better fuel economy. Engineers also installed revised gear ratios for a balanced driving feel in all situations.
The standard engine in North America is an updated 2.5-liter, giving the new Escape a comprehensive lineup of four-cylinder offerings. It also is matched to a SelectShift Automatic six-speed.
Also aiding fuel economy is Escape's sleeker design. The new model is nearly 10 percent more aerodynamic than the outgoing model.
Plus, the new Escape's active grille shutter system, which is on all models with the 1.6-liter EcoBoost and 2.5-liter four-cylinder engines, reduces wind resistance. Grille slats stay open when extra engine cooling air is required, such as low-speed stop-and-go driving. When cruising on the highway at steady speeds, the grille slats automatically close to improve aerodynamics and fuel efficiency.
Versatility and capability come standard
Stowing and towing are even easier in the new five-passenger Escape, thanks to a low liftover height of 27 inches, more innovations and cargo volume that surpasses the outgoing Escape – with 68.1 cubic feet of space behind the first row and 34.3 cubic feet behind the second row.
The new Escape's rear seats have been designed to fold flat easily. With the touch of a button, the head restraint folds down and with the lift of a handle on the seat, the seatback folds and dives as the seat folds flat and clicks into position.
Escape also features an available two-position load floor, which can be configured to allow the customer to choose among maximum luggage volume or flat load floor.
When properly equipped, the all-new Escape maintains a trailer tow rating of 3,500 pounds.
Engaging driving performance through seamless system
Using new advanced software and sensors, the new Intelligent 4WD System analyzes data from 25 external signals, including wheel speed, accelerator pedal position and steering wheel angle, assessing road conditions and driver input 20 times faster than the blink of an eye.
The system uses all the sensor inputs to turn the vehicle in the direction the driver wants it to go. Intelligent 4WD builds on the pre-emptive actions by adding and subtracting torque as needed through an electromagnetic clutch.
New SUV goes global
Following its world debut in Los Angeles, this new vehicle will head to Europe, where sales of compact sport utilities have grown 200 percent since 2000. It will be revealed at the Geneva Motor Show in March for European customers as the all-new version of the Ford Kuga and will have unique powertrains and features. Chinese customers also will see the all-new Kuga next spring.
"This all-new Ford model opens a new chapter in the world of SUVs," Kuzak said. "By being smarter, this utility vehicle will give customers around the globe find better, easier ways to connect with technology, maximize fuel efficiency and find the versatility and capability they need and want."
• Ford's newest sport utility vehicle (SUV) arrives next year, bringing clever technologies and features designed to make life easier, and fuel economy projected to top any vehicle of its kind on the market
• Versatile vehicle features new hands-free technology – including liftgate with motion-sensing technology similar to video games' and upgraded MyFord Touch® system that makes connecting with digital devices on the go even easier
• New Escape's projected fuel economy is up to 5 mpg better than outgoing Escape; 1.6- and 2.0-liter EcoBoost® engines save customers fuel and money
• Customers globally will start seeing this sleek small SUV next year, too. Named the Ford Kuga in Europe and China, this vehicle makes its international debut at the Geneva Motor Show in March and will offer unique powertrains and features for customers in those markets
LOS ANGELES, Nov. 16, 2011 – The Ford Escape, America's best-selling SUV, will raise the bar even higher with the debut of an all-new model that features 11 new exclusive features and fuel economy projected to top any vehicle of its kind on the market today.
"We call our all-new Ford Escape the 'Smarter Utility Vehicle' because it offers the strengths that customers today really value – fuel economy, versatility and new technology that makes driving and living with the vehicle easier and more fun – all wrapped in a sleek, more modern design," said Derrick Kuzak, group vice president, Global Product Development. "Ford understands that more people every year are looking at vehicles like Escape, and we want to give them even more reasons to buy."
Sixty percent of Americans shopping for a vehicle next year will look at either a midsize car or small SUV, making Escape part of one of the most cross-shopped and fastest-growing segments in the auto industry.
"Escape is America's best-selling utility vehicle, and the Ford team has worked hard to make sure we deliver even more of what small SUV owners really want," Kuzak said.
In addition to more cargo volume behind the first and second rows than today's vehicle, the new Escape delivers:
• Eleven features no other small SUV offers
• Clever technologies that make Escape even more versatile, including an available hands-free power liftgate that allows quick and easy access to cargo with the kick of a foot
• Projected best fuel economy of any compact SUV, up to 5 mpg better than previous Escape
• Driving dynamics that make the drive experience more engaging on-road and a new Ford Intelligent 4WD System that provides even better traction off-road
• Sleek new design, with better interior materials and more finishing touches
Escape technology makes life better
An array of clever technologies adds to the new Escape's versatility, helping make life easier for its owners. Key features include:
• An available hands-free power liftgate brings new technology to the SUV market and is enabled by motion technology used in today's video game systems. A gentle kicking motion under the center of the rear bumper activates, unlocks and raises the liftgate when the driver has the Escape key fob. This allows quick and easy access to the cargo area without needing to set down packages or dig out keys. The same process closes the hatch
• SYNC® with MyFord Touch® offers multiple ways for customers to manage and control information through voice commands, menus accessed through controls on the steering wheel, touch screens, buttons or knobs. Upgraded system includes new look, making phone, navigation, entertainment and climate controls even easier to use
• Parallel parking the Escape is virtually stress-free with active park assist. With the press of a button, the system detects an available parallel parking space and automatically steers the vehicle into the space. Drivers control only the gas and brake pedals
• Maneuvering parking lots and traveling open roadways becomes even safer and less stressful with Escape's sensor-based BLIS® (Blind Spot Information System) with cross-traffic alert. BLIS sounds an alert when a vehicle is detected entering a blind spot. Cross-traffic alert warns if traffic is detected approaching from the sides, such as when Escape is leaving a parking space in reverse
• The all-new Ford Escape is the first Ford SUV to combine class-exclusive technology to automatically slow the vehicle when it's cornering too fast (Curve Control) or help accelerate through a turn (Torque Vectoring Control); a new Intelligent 4WD System helps deliver outstanding handling on pristine pavement and in adverse conditions as well, along with excellent traction off-road
Spirited performance with outstanding fuel economy
Escape offers Ford's broadest nameplate range of EcoBoost® engine choices yet. Strong fuel economy comes from either the available 2.0-liter EcoBoost engine or 1.6-liter EcoBoost engine, which makes its American debut in the new Escape.
Both new engines combine EcoBoost's core technologies of direct fuel injection and turbocharging and add twin independent variable camshaft timing (Ti-VCT) to deliver even better miles per gallon and save customers money on fuel.
In Escape, EcoBoost engines are mated to specially calibrated, six-speed SelectShift Automatic™ transmissions, which are standard and allow drivers who want more hands-on experiences to manually control gear selection from a switch on the left-hand side of the shifter.
The gearbox features a new torque converter for improved driving feel, silky smooth shifts and even better fuel economy. Engineers also installed revised gear ratios for a balanced driving feel in all situations.
The standard engine in North America is an updated 2.5-liter, giving the new Escape a comprehensive lineup of four-cylinder offerings. It also is matched to a SelectShift Automatic six-speed.
Also aiding fuel economy is Escape's sleeker design. The new model is nearly 10 percent more aerodynamic than the outgoing model.
Plus, the new Escape's active grille shutter system, which is on all models with the 1.6-liter EcoBoost and 2.5-liter four-cylinder engines, reduces wind resistance. Grille slats stay open when extra engine cooling air is required, such as low-speed stop-and-go driving. When cruising on the highway at steady speeds, the grille slats automatically close to improve aerodynamics and fuel efficiency.
Versatility and capability come standard
Stowing and towing are even easier in the new five-passenger Escape, thanks to a low liftover height of 27 inches, more innovations and cargo volume that surpasses the outgoing Escape – with 68.1 cubic feet of space behind the first row and 34.3 cubic feet behind the second row.
The new Escape's rear seats have been designed to fold flat easily. With the touch of a button, the head restraint folds down and with the lift of a handle on the seat, the seatback folds and dives as the seat folds flat and clicks into position.
Escape also features an available two-position load floor, which can be configured to allow the customer to choose among maximum luggage volume or flat load floor.
When properly equipped, the all-new Escape maintains a trailer tow rating of 3,500 pounds.
Engaging driving performance through seamless system
Using new advanced software and sensors, the new Intelligent 4WD System analyzes data from 25 external signals, including wheel speed, accelerator pedal position and steering wheel angle, assessing road conditions and driver input 20 times faster than the blink of an eye.
The system uses all the sensor inputs to turn the vehicle in the direction the driver wants it to go. Intelligent 4WD builds on the pre-emptive actions by adding and subtracting torque as needed through an electromagnetic clutch.
New SUV goes global
Following its world debut in Los Angeles, this new vehicle will head to Europe, where sales of compact sport utilities have grown 200 percent since 2000. It will be revealed at the Geneva Motor Show in March for European customers as the all-new version of the Ford Kuga and will have unique powertrains and features. Chinese customers also will see the all-new Kuga next spring.
"This all-new Ford model opens a new chapter in the world of SUVs," Kuzak said. "By being smarter, this utility vehicle will give customers around the globe find better, easier ways to connect with technology, maximize fuel efficiency and find the versatility and capability they need and want."
#111
I drive a Subata.
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^ Good news.
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#113
ugh two-tone exteriors, sooo 90's
#115
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I like the new Escape styling much more than the CR-V.
flat fold down seats and large glass ceiling, both up the ante on CR-V.
The 2.0 turbo sounds really good to me.
Personally I'd get the focus hatch 5mt.
flat fold down seats and large glass ceiling, both up the ante on CR-V.
The 2.0 turbo sounds really good to me.
Personally I'd get the focus hatch 5mt.
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I really want to know how the 2.0T will do in the real world in terms of mpg. I know the Audi Q5 2.0T doesn't really get any better mpg than the old 3.2 V6 model........
#117
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^ I don't know where you always get that insight.
But seriously, I think I've said this thing quite a lot of times before.
It's easy to get great gas mileage with 2.0T, if you don't get into the boost range too much. In the "real world driving" like you always like to bring up, nobody gets to the boost range signal to signal. You still get plenty of juice without getting the car into the boost range to drive smoothly on the road. If I really don't feel like going faster than the traffic, I never get into the boost range.
What's great with 2.0T is that you do have the power that's pretty much equivalent to V6s. The power is always there, if you feel like romping on it.
The magazine usually get bad mileages on these engines because they drive hard to get the tests done.
But seriously, I think I've said this thing quite a lot of times before.
It's easy to get great gas mileage with 2.0T, if you don't get into the boost range too much. In the "real world driving" like you always like to bring up, nobody gets to the boost range signal to signal. You still get plenty of juice without getting the car into the boost range to drive smoothly on the road. If I really don't feel like going faster than the traffic, I never get into the boost range.
What's great with 2.0T is that you do have the power that's pretty much equivalent to V6s. The power is always there, if you feel like romping on it.
The magazine usually get bad mileages on these engines because they drive hard to get the tests done.
#118
The sizzle in the Steak
^ I don't know where you always get that insight.
But seriously, I think I've said this thing quite a lot of times before.
It's easy to get great gas mileage with 2.0T, if you don't get into the boost range too much. In the "real world driving" like you always like to bring up, nobody gets to the boost range signal to signal. You still get plenty of juice without getting the car into the boost range to drive smoothly on the road. If I really don't feel like going faster than the traffic, I never get into the boost range.
What's great with 2.0T is that you do have the power that's pretty much equivalent to V6s. The power is always there, if you feel like romping on it.
The magazine usually get bad mileages on these engines because they drive hard to get the tests done.
But seriously, I think I've said this thing quite a lot of times before.
It's easy to get great gas mileage with 2.0T, if you don't get into the boost range too much. In the "real world driving" like you always like to bring up, nobody gets to the boost range signal to signal. You still get plenty of juice without getting the car into the boost range to drive smoothly on the road. If I really don't feel like going faster than the traffic, I never get into the boost range.
What's great with 2.0T is that you do have the power that's pretty much equivalent to V6s. The power is always there, if you feel like romping on it.
The magazine usually get bad mileages on these engines because they drive hard to get the tests done.
If you boost, then your MPG will fall.
I GREATLY exceed the sticker highway MPG figures all the time.
...but then again I have fallen way below the sticker as well....from time to time.
#119
Aside from the Mustang, I used to think that too.
I like this new Escape. It looks good. It's got a lot of nice features. It gets good MPGs. It's got a really nice motor. It's good value. I wonder how it drives though.
I like the Edge too.
Ford's on a roll.
Hyundai's on a roll.
Honda....... Not so much.
I like this new Escape. It looks good. It's got a lot of nice features. It gets good MPGs. It's got a really nice motor. It's good value. I wonder how it drives though.
I like the Edge too.
Ford's on a roll.
Hyundai's on a roll.
Honda....... Not so much.
#120
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look fantastic!
Love the leg swipe feature...I saw that on their upcoming mini-mini van.
Love the leg swipe feature...I saw that on their upcoming mini-mini van.