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speedemon90 Mar 10, 2013 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by swoosh (Post 14357990)
HOLY SHIT 10 seconds will make any of these cars quicker than the TOP super cars by ~14 seconds

01:03.x SAY THIS IS WHAT THE P1/LF can pull....
01:13.8 Pagani Huayra
01:15.1 Ariel Atom V8 500 (moist)
01:16.2 McLaren MP4-12C
01:16.5 Lamborghini Aventador
01:16.8 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
01:17.1 Gumpert Apollo S
01:17.3 Ascari A10
01:17.6 Koenigsegg CCX (with Top Gear Wing)
01:17.7 Noble M600 (cold)
01:17.8 Nissan GT-R

:what:
what was the fxx time again??? Im pretty sure it was close to that....
jeeeezus



Originally Posted by Dr. Colorado (Post 14358012)
Unofficial allocation tally

US 120
Germany 50
GB 50-60 ??
Italy 25
Switzerland 20-25??
Canada 11
India 3
Australia 7

Roughly 300, I guess the remaining examples to Far East/China, Middle East, and Russia?

So did you contact them about your interest ;)

I wonder if the people selected to buy are hand picked for the most part

fsttyms1 Mar 10, 2013 12:40 PM

I come in here just to :drool:

srika Mar 10, 2013 12:47 PM

I hope some company makes a 1:12 or even larger scale model because I'll get that.

swoosh Mar 10, 2013 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by speedemon90 (Post 14362338)
:what:
what was the fxx time again??? Im pretty sure it was close to that....
jeeeezus

:nod:

Here is the list of cars which were not posted coz they are not street legal

0:59.0 – Renault R24 Formula One car (Wet)
1:03.8 – Lotus T125.
1:08.5 – Pagani Zonda R
1:08.6 – Aston Martin DBR9
1:10.6 – Caparo T1
1:10.7 – Ferrari FXX (Driven by Michael Schumacher on slick tyres)

charliemike Mar 10, 2013 09:06 PM

The Zonda R isn't street legal?

srika Mar 10, 2013 09:07 PM

those are all race cars, with the exception of the Caparo T1 (I think)

ttribe Mar 10, 2013 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by charliemike (Post 14363018)
The Zonda R isn't street legal?

Not in the U.S.

swoosh Mar 10, 2013 09:25 PM

Dont think the T1 is legal in US as well....

people are having a hard time getting Ariel Atoms and BAC Mono's registered for streets in many states

srika Mar 10, 2013 09:27 PM

are you sure there are street legal Zonda R's, anywhere? I don't recall that being the case.

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ttribe Mar 10, 2013 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by srika (Post 14363061)
are you sure there are street legal Zonda R's, anywhere? I don't recall that being the case.

:shrug:

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/30/p...f-the-zonda-r/

http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/article.php?AID=1264

That's all I can really find.

srika Mar 10, 2013 09:50 PM

I don't think the actual Zonda R was street legal anywhere.

I didn't know the Cinque was based on the R, though.

ttribe Mar 10, 2013 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by srika (Post 14363105)
I don't think the actual Zonda R was street legal anywhere.

I didn't know the Cinque was based on the R, though.

I honestly have no idea; I can't keep track of those things. I just knew no Zonda had ever been street legal in the U.S.

fsttyms1 Mar 10, 2013 09:57 PM

Now i have to go change my drawrs, thanks for the pics srika

srika Mar 10, 2013 10:00 PM

geezus what size are those brakes?????? those are 19" and 20" wheels!

Rick_TL-S Mar 10, 2013 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by srika (Post 14362504)
I hope some company makes a 1:12 or even larger scale model because I'll get that.

It's already in the works.
http://www.collectorstudio.com/index...5812/details/1

A 1/12 model will probably still be roughly $2-3,500.

BTW, that store has numerous other cars in 1/8th scale as well such as the new P1, F1 GTR, LM, FXX, DBR9, etc. The scales go up as well.

Originally Posted by srika (Post 14363105)
I don't think the actual Zonda R was street legal anywhere.

I didn't know the Cinque was based on the R, though.

By Pagani's specs, the 10 Cinques are the only road-going R models.

However, I think some credit can be given to Tricolore, HH, RAK, & the 750/760/764 models as they all either sport the Cinque engine or bodywork, which in turn, is modeled from the R.

Out of them, the 750 is probably the closest since it has been the test bed for every custom-one off Zonda that was ordered after it.:2cents:

Moog-Type-S Mar 11, 2013 06:01 PM

:drool: The more pics I see the more I :drool:

:yum: What a work of art!!!

Yumcha Mar 11, 2013 06:17 PM

Nice brakes...

http://www.laferrari.com/static/0004..._05_brakes.jpg

Yumcha Mar 11, 2013 06:18 PM

In some different colors...

http://autofluence.com/wp-content/up...ari-colors.jpg

Steven Bell Mar 11, 2013 08:50 PM

I like the red best.

Rick_TL-S Mar 11, 2013 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Yumcha (Post 14364721)

Is it scary to think that a set of those probably cost 1/3rd of what many people make in this country yearly?

swoosh Mar 11, 2013 09:19 PM

^^^ you dont say ;)

Dr. Colorado Mar 11, 2013 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S (Post 14364968)
Is it scary to think that a set of those probably cost 1/3rd of what many people make in this country yearly?

CCBs on my ride are $14K each to replace and you have to buy them as a pair. I guess they last a really long time if one doesn't track, first CCBs I've owned.

Costco Mar 11, 2013 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S (Post 14364968)
Is it scary to think that a set of those probably cost 1/3rd of what many people make in this country yearly?

More than you can afford, pal. Ferrari.

that's straight up brake porn though

Joneill44 Mar 11, 2013 11:06 PM


Yumcha Mar 11, 2013 11:26 PM

With this Ferrari, I'll take it in any color I can get.




Beggars can't be choosers. Sigh.

Costco Mar 11, 2013 11:34 PM

Someone could take a hot pink glow in the dark LaFerrari, shower the entire car in fermented puke, let the acid etch into the paint, spray clearcoat over it and I would still give up my left nut to have it, as well as buy a matching jacket.

speedemon90 Mar 12, 2013 06:04 AM

Those brakes :drool:


The zonda R that was on top gear is not street legal, hence the link someone posted about pagani making street legal versions of the R.

The zonda R is like the 599XX. Not street legal, not legal for any competitive racing either.

elessar Mar 12, 2013 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Costco (Post 14365091)
More than you can afford, pal. Ferrari.

:rofl:

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00TL-P3.2 Mar 12, 2013 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Dr. Colorado (Post 14365061)
CCBs on my ride are $14K each to replace and you have to buy them as a pair. I guess they last a really long time if one doesn't track, first CCBs I've owned.

IIRC, I had an SLR McLaren tech tell us (in about 2007) that front rotors for one were $32k a pair. :eek:

Black Tire Mar 12, 2013 01:43 PM

LOL...maybe these supercar guys should watch the Top Gear episode where all the super cars get beaten by the lighly modded sports cars.



Originally Posted by elessar (Post 14365853)
:rofl:

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Moog-Type-S Mar 12, 2013 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Yumcha (Post 14365202)
With this Ferrari, I'll take it in any color I can get.




Beggars can't be choosers. Sigh.

They should all come in one color only: RED

srika Mar 12, 2013 02:43 PM

you guys have seen the configurator with the 360 degree visualizer right.... 3 colors

http://www.laferrari.com/en/design


also at that site it mentions how it has strong influence taken from the 312P and 330 P4. I knew about the P4 (along with the the "new" one they made in the past few years) but not the 312P. Here are some images to show the heritage.

312P
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...errari312P.jpg



http://www.fotos.org/galeria/data/50...312P-frt-l.jpg



http://photo-voiture.motorlegend.com...12-p-56601.jpg



https://i727.photobucket.com/albums/...linetta_10.jpg



330 P4
http://www.mad4wheels.com/webpics/hi...4_001_0109.jpg



http://ferrariw.com/wp-content/uploa...ari-330-p3.jpg



https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_q0gLWjp0D...di+Monza_3.jpg



http://www.mad4wheels.com/webpics/hi...4_010_7381.jpg



http://images4.alphacoders.com/269/269156.jpg

Yumcha Mar 12, 2013 04:07 PM

Here's a nice picture that shows Ferrari's prior flagships and the LaFerrari...

https://stwot.motortrend.com/files/2...-Flagships.jpg

Yumcha Mar 12, 2013 04:08 PM

I think it shows nicely how the front evolved into what it is today. :)

Dr. Colorado Mar 12, 2013 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2 (Post 14365961)
IIRC, I had an SLR McLaren tech tell us (in about 2007) that front rotors for one were $32k a pair. :eek:

What is the primary determinant that makes these brakes so expensive other than the carbon ceramic material? Caliper square area? Most of them seem sourced from Brembo, yet the F-car ones are exponentially more expensive than Porsche.

"The California braking system consists of front and rear Brembo modules with carbon ceramic brake discs. The 390 mm carbon ceramic discs at the front are coupled with 6-piston monoblock calipers with 150 cm square pads, whereas the 360 mm carbon ceramic discs at the rear are coupled with 4-piston monoblock calipers with 77 cm square pad."

Moog-Type-S Mar 12, 2013 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Yumcha (Post 14366652)
I think it shows nicely how the front evolved into what it is today. :)

:werd:

speedemon90 Mar 12, 2013 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Yumcha (Post 14366652)
I think it shows nicely how the front evolved into what it is today. :)

some school club group i'm in on fb, someone was saying how they copied some old corvette concept :whyme:

Yumcha Mar 12, 2013 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by speedemon90 (Post 14366949)
some school club group i'm in on fb, someone was saying how they copied some old corvette concept :whyme:

:huh:

Ferrari copies no one. :2cents:

Rick_TL-S Mar 12, 2013 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Dr. Colorado (Post 14366793)
What is the primary determinant that makes these brakes so expensive other than the carbon ceramic material? Caliper square area? Most of them seem sourced from Brembo, yet the F-car ones are exponentially more expensive than Porsche.

"The California braking system consists of front and rear Brembo modules with carbon ceramic brake discs. The 390 mm carbon ceramic discs at the front are coupled with 6-piston monoblock calipers with 150 cm square pads, whereas the 360 mm carbon ceramic discs at the rear are coupled with 4-piston monoblock calipers with 77 cm square pad."

According to Wiki:

The brake discs are carbon-ceramic and provide better stopping power and fade resistance than steel discs when operating under ideal working temperature. Mercedes-Benz claims these discs are fade resistant to 1,200 °C (2,200 °F). The front discs are internally vented and 370 mm (15 in) diameter eight-piston callipers are used. Rear discs are 360 mm (14 in) in diameter with four-piston callipers. During wet conditions the callipers automatically skim the surface of the discs to keep them dry.
That & the McLaren name probably helps carry that price tag.


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