Ferrari: F430 news **SP1 News (page 12)**
06-06-2004, 10:04 PM
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Spy Shots: ‘05 Ferrari 420/430 Monza - - The replacement for the 360 Modena grows clearer. - - by Hans Lehmann/Hidden Image - - Source: The Car Connection
Ferrari's replacement for the 360 Modena has come a long way. The vehicle has been anticipated for no less than the past three years. The first prototype mules were sighted in 2002 (engine development mule), 2003 (new headlight and powertrain development car) and earlier this year (new powertrain and chassis under old body with some improvised new exterior features). During all of that period, it remained inconclusive when exactly the new car would debut, and what would be the degree of innovation, between a simple facelift of the current car and a complete redesign.
Only now the first complete prototypes have hit the roads and have been captured on camera. The new car will quite radically depart from the looks of the current 360, with new front and rear ends that are greatly inspired by the mighty Ferrari Enzo. Similar to those on the Enzo, the new headlights will have more angular looks and be stacked vertically, rather than horizontally. The restyled frontal air scoops (now with a curved tear-drop shape) render the front clamshell much cleaner. The rear clamshell is all new, too, and features redesigned engine air scoops. The rear lights, newly positioned at the very top edge, are again clearly reminiscent of the Enzo and give the car an entirely new rear aspect and profile.
It is also interesting to note the bulged camouflage and the air scoop between the rear lights. This section of the prototype directly resembles that of disguised Enzo prototypes during the final stages of its development and suggests that the new mid-engine V-8 Ferrari might be equipped with an adjustable rear spoiler, too.
These modifications should be good news for all those who found the appearance of the current 360 Modena too bland, and too compromised by its undoubtedly superior aerodynamic efficiency. The new Pininfarina effort promises to be a much more accomplished blend of a dramatic shape with uncompromised aerodynamics and function.
The innovations will not stop here, though. Extreme ultra-low profile tyres at the front axle are indicative of an upgraded suspension. Modified exhaust pipes (with a tapered, slightly reduced exit diameter) are indicative of the new 4.2-liter V-8 powertrain with further optimized intake and exhaust gas flow and an estimated maximum power figure of 450 hp.
Still unclear remains what the new Ferrari will be called. While the expected engine capacity suggests to a F420 label, it is reported that Ferrari recently has registered the F430 label in a number of key markets. The "Modena" name tag perhaps will be replaced with "Monza" - hence "Ferrari 430 Monza" is one likely possibility.
The new 420/430 coupe is expected to be officially unveiled early in 2005 (Detroit or Geneva motor shows) and on sale in the first half of the year. Interestingly, no prototypes could be spotted yet for the redesigned Spyder version. This supports information according to which the new 420/430 Spyder will debut about a full year after the coupe, in 2006, but then come complete with an all-new retractable hardtop roof. At around the same time, a stripped-out race version of the coupe is expected, very much in the style of the current "Challenge Stradale" model.
Ferrari's replacement for the 360 Modena has come a long way. The vehicle has been anticipated for no less than the past three years. The first prototype mules were sighted in 2002 (engine development mule), 2003 (new headlight and powertrain development car) and earlier this year (new powertrain and chassis under old body with some improvised new exterior features). During all of that period, it remained inconclusive when exactly the new car would debut, and what would be the degree of innovation, between a simple facelift of the current car and a complete redesign.
Only now the first complete prototypes have hit the roads and have been captured on camera. The new car will quite radically depart from the looks of the current 360, with new front and rear ends that are greatly inspired by the mighty Ferrari Enzo. Similar to those on the Enzo, the new headlights will have more angular looks and be stacked vertically, rather than horizontally. The restyled frontal air scoops (now with a curved tear-drop shape) render the front clamshell much cleaner. The rear clamshell is all new, too, and features redesigned engine air scoops. The rear lights, newly positioned at the very top edge, are again clearly reminiscent of the Enzo and give the car an entirely new rear aspect and profile.
It is also interesting to note the bulged camouflage and the air scoop between the rear lights. This section of the prototype directly resembles that of disguised Enzo prototypes during the final stages of its development and suggests that the new mid-engine V-8 Ferrari might be equipped with an adjustable rear spoiler, too.
These modifications should be good news for all those who found the appearance of the current 360 Modena too bland, and too compromised by its undoubtedly superior aerodynamic efficiency. The new Pininfarina effort promises to be a much more accomplished blend of a dramatic shape with uncompromised aerodynamics and function.
The innovations will not stop here, though. Extreme ultra-low profile tyres at the front axle are indicative of an upgraded suspension. Modified exhaust pipes (with a tapered, slightly reduced exit diameter) are indicative of the new 4.2-liter V-8 powertrain with further optimized intake and exhaust gas flow and an estimated maximum power figure of 450 hp.
Still unclear remains what the new Ferrari will be called. While the expected engine capacity suggests to a F420 label, it is reported that Ferrari recently has registered the F430 label in a number of key markets. The "Modena" name tag perhaps will be replaced with "Monza" - hence "Ferrari 430 Monza" is one likely possibility.
The new 420/430 coupe is expected to be officially unveiled early in 2005 (Detroit or Geneva motor shows) and on sale in the first half of the year. Interestingly, no prototypes could be spotted yet for the redesigned Spyder version. This supports information according to which the new 420/430 Spyder will debut about a full year after the coupe, in 2006, but then come complete with an all-new retractable hardtop roof. At around the same time, a stripped-out race version of the coupe is expected, very much in the style of the current "Challenge Stradale" model.
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F430 Mex Its Debut On Test - - Source: Autoexpress
The magazine's spies have caught the Ferrari F430 undisguised and out on the road for the first time. It's the car we exclusively revealed on the cover of issue 815.
The replacement for the F360 Modena, seen in the mag testing in Mexico, will be launched in 12 months' time, powered by a new 500bhp 4.3-litre V8 engine. It's an uprated version of the 4.2-litre unit already found in the Maserati Coupé and Spyder, and will give the Ferrari a top speed of more than 200mph.
Unfortunately, the mag's pictures do not reveal whether the new F430 will feature an automatic lifting rear spoiler, similar to that on Porsche's 911 Carrera, although sources say this is a strong possibility. However, the model will have the option of a six-speed sequential gearbox, along with the standard-fit manual shifter.
Prices have yet to be confirmed, but they are expected to start at slightly more than the existing F360, which weighs in at £103,275.
The magazine's spies have caught the Ferrari F430 undisguised and out on the road for the first time. It's the car we exclusively revealed on the cover of issue 815.
The replacement for the F360 Modena, seen in the mag testing in Mexico, will be launched in 12 months' time, powered by a new 500bhp 4.3-litre V8 engine. It's an uprated version of the 4.2-litre unit already found in the Maserati Coupé and Spyder, and will give the Ferrari a top speed of more than 200mph.
Unfortunately, the mag's pictures do not reveal whether the new F430 will feature an automatic lifting rear spoiler, similar to that on Porsche's 911 Carrera, although sources say this is a strong possibility. However, the model will have the option of a six-speed sequential gearbox, along with the standard-fit manual shifter.
Prices have yet to be confirmed, but they are expected to start at slightly more than the existing F360, which weighs in at £103,275.
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I am glad. 500HP is the minimum for this class. That means they felt the presence of th Ford GT and the rest of the cars that keep adding power. Yes, yes, Ferrari is not about straight line acceleration only, but all these other cars are getting so much better, Ferrari must keep adding anywhere they can.
500HP from 4.3 NA liters is something. That thing must spin to 10,000 rpm. The 500 HP from the M5 come from 5 liters and the redline starts at 9000 rpm.
No matter how much HP, torque will still suffer with this car. At 4.3 liters, I am guessing it wont be much more than 330 pounds.
Now I am thinking, the Enzo sounds underpowered
500HP from 4.3 NA liters is something. That thing must spin to 10,000 rpm. The 500 HP from the M5 come from 5 liters and the redline starts at 9000 rpm.
No matter how much HP, torque will still suffer with this car. At 4.3 liters, I am guessing it wont be much more than 330 pounds.
Now I am thinking, the Enzo sounds underpowered
07-30-2004, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I am glad. 500HP is the minimum for this class. That means they felt the presence of th Ford GT and the rest of the cars that keep adding power. Yes, yes, Ferrari is not about straight line acceleration only, but all these other cars are getting so much better, Ferrari must keep adding anywhere they can.
500HP from 4.3 NA liters is something. That thing must spin to 10,000 rpm. The 500 HP from the M5 come from 5 liters and the redline starts at 9000 rpm.
No matter how much HP, torque will still suffer with this car. At 4.3 liters, I am guessing it wont be much more than 330 pounds.
Now I am thinking, the Enzo sounds underpowered
500HP from 4.3 NA liters is something. That thing must spin to 10,000 rpm. The 500 HP from the M5 come from 5 liters and the redline starts at 9000 rpm.
No matter how much HP, torque will still suffer with this car. At 4.3 liters, I am guessing it wont be much more than 330 pounds.
Now I am thinking, the Enzo sounds underpowered
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I am glad. 500HP is the minimum for this class. That means they felt the presence of th Ford GT and the rest of the cars that keep adding power. Yes, yes, Ferrari is not about straight line acceleration only, but all these other cars are getting so much better, Ferrari must keep adding anywhere they can.
500HP from 4.3 NA liters is something. That thing must spin to 10,000 rpm. The 500 HP from the M5 come from 5 liters and the redline starts at 9000 rpm.
No matter how much HP, torque will still suffer with this car. At 4.3 liters, I am guessing it wont be much more than 330 pounds.
Now I am thinking, the Enzo sounds underpowered
500HP from 4.3 NA liters is something. That thing must spin to 10,000 rpm. The 500 HP from the M5 come from 5 liters and the redline starts at 9000 rpm.
No matter how much HP, torque will still suffer with this car. At 4.3 liters, I am guessing it wont be much more than 330 pounds.
Now I am thinking, the Enzo sounds underpowered
competition is sooooooooo good to us
07-30-2004, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
And the next NSX was gonna take this car out? With a v-6?
07-30-2004, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by goldmemberer
300 hp V6 + two 100hp electric motors would result in better torque delivery... IMA was rumored for a little bit on the NSX.
Gav, ya'll have those pics on the bottom?
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/show...hreadid=127749
07-30-2004, 07:31 PM
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nice.....ferrari's gotta come out swingin..... If honda can drop the weight of the car to "mclaren" weight they can continue with a reworked v6. But i doubt it......
08-03-2004, 06:44 PM
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08-04-2004, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by cob3683
When is this supposed to come out and how $$$?
sorry couldn't resist.
08-04-2004, 10:30 AM
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08-05-2004, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by cob3683
I can afford quite a bit.
But not this
But not this
