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Old 12-27-2007, 04:25 AM
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i think chrysler should just close its doors and get the hell out of the business =).. jmho...

they suck at life and they will alwaays suck at life.. they are wasting their time and money trying to redesign models that are not goin to succeed in the market place in the first place. there are to many competitors that have the upper hand, with build quality and reliability..
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they just need better advertising.
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they just need better advertising.
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So what's going to happen to Dodge Ram trucks? If I recall correctly Crysler own Dodge.
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wonder if they will still be around next year
I hope not, it's punishment for making the PT Cruiser.
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1) Chrysler was bought by private investors, so yeah, its being run on private funds. That has nothing to do with Nardelli.

2) The Germans did no favors to Chrysler while owning them.

3) Nardelli might have been bad for Home Depot, but its a different company that operates in substantially different way. Nardelli didnt get the concept of local markets and individuals. But a 300C is a 300C no matter where you sell it, so where he sucks at one company he might not be so bad at another.

4) They have already started trimming the fat with 4 model cancellations and two model interiors being overhauled.

5) When/if Chrysler once again becomes profitable, the private investors will take the company public again and make their money back and then some.


Time will tell.
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Nissan, Chrysler close to deal on small cars

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now can we get a hemi in the Z?

how bout a ZRT-8?
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Chrysler: Trim models, consolidate dealers

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Chrysler's previous consolidation strategy, dubbed "Project Alpha," was implemented in 2004 to trim and combine dealers. All told, Chrysler was able to cut its dealer network down from 4,000 to 3,600. Not nearly enough to get outlets on par with demand. So Chrysler's co-pres, Jim Press, announced today that Project Alpha is out and Project Genesis is on the way in.

According to Automotive News, as you read this, business teams are fanning out across the U.S. to negotiate with dealerships to either buy other outlets or sell their own in an effort to pair down Chrysler's bloated sales network. The plan is to get all three of the automaker's brands – Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep – under one roof, with the possibility of creating satellite dealerships and service-only facilities in outlying areas.

But if all of Chrysler's wares are in plain sight of the public, won't that confuse consumers with all the product overlap between brands? Yes. And that's why Chrysler is looking to nix models that are badge-engineered duplicates of other vehicles offered by the automaker. So in addition to killing off the PT Cruiser, Pacifica, Crossfire and Magnum, more models are about to be cut out of the line up. We'd mention a few suggestions here, but we're sure you can come up with some of your own.

However, it's not all about the cuts. Press went on to say that Chrysler would develop new models to compete in segments that the automaker previously hasn't pursued and that even though sales outlets are going to be consolidated, Chrysler doesn't have the ability to hand out massive checks to dealerships on the chopping block.
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I can barely name 3 cars in their lineup... The Seabreeze or something like that... and that Mini van Town and Country (?) and the 300 which is like... the only car that does good
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Cerberus at its best.
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Cerberus at its best.
In a good or bad way? I think this is long overdue.
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GM Might Take a Cue From Nardelli's Frugal Ways

Commentary by Doron Levin Feb. 14 (Bloomberg) --

No one can accuse Chrysler LLC's new management of lacking urgency in efforts to conserve cash, slaughter sacred cows and in so doing get the automaker spruced up for a sale.

Chrysler in early February balked at a price increase on parts made by Dearborn, Michigan-based Plastech Engineered Products Inc. Instead, Chrysler canceled its contracts, drove trucks to Plastech's plant and demanded the tooling, which it says it owns. Chrysler planned to give the tools to other suppliers.

Plastech filed for bankruptcy and the resulting shortage of injection-molded plastic parts triggered a temporary shutdown of four Chrysler assembly plants. Plastech, which has 35 plants in North America, says it owns the tooling.

While that conflict simmered, Chrysler a week later said it would cut as many as half of its 3,600 U.S. dealers by trimming the number of models it sells. Those dealers that don't agree to consolidate may end up starved of certain vehicles.

Chrysler could, for example, decide to sell minivans only through Dodge or only through Chrysler, rather than at both as it does now. The automaker also told Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep dealers not to expect much, if any, monetary help -- as General Motors Corp. gave to Oldsmobile dealers -- to cover losses when they sell or close their stores.....
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again i say, give any of us control of an auto maker. We'd do good...
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Originally Posted by Python2121
Well it was a LBO...all their cash comes from debt....so this is pretty much

Not sure what that means. What does it matter where their cash comes from? Debt or stock, it's someone's money either way.
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Old 02-14-2008, 09:58 PM
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again i say, give any of us control of an auto maker. We'd do good...
I highly doubt that
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:39 PM
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Cerberus is very smart. Only auto outsiders like Nardelli could have pulled stunts like these. In order to survive the onslaught from Japanese and Korean auto makers, Chrysler needs to keep production cost in check, trim off duplicate and unprofitable vehicle models and car dealerships, and eventually start butchering the UNIONS.
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Old 02-15-2008, 07:44 PM
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Fix the fucking health care problem first. Shit, that has been plaguing the industry for decades. Fucking management can't fix their shit. Not that the unions aren't also at fault, but you are fool to think they are the sole problem.
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Be patience, be patience. It will eventually come. Cerberus/Chrysler-management can't handle too many battle-fronts all at once.
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Be patience, be patience. It will eventually come. Cerberus/Chrysler-management can't handle too many battle-fronts all at once.
i agree Ceberus/Chrysler is trimming it's line(of cars) and dealers soon. i also see them close atleast a few plants. Cerberus is a investment company they wanna make money ASAP. I think they got a plan but you gotta give them a chance to work it.
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Post Nissan, Chrysler: Sign OEM Agreements

Info from Worldcarfans...

Today news comes from both Chrysler and Nissan that they have signed two new OEM (Original Equipment Manufacture) deals. Back in January Nissan and Chrysler already announced that the Japanese auto maker would provide Chrysler with a derivative of its Nissan Versa sedan for the South American market.

Chrysler will build a full-size pick-up truck for Nissan with a Nissan unique design at their Saltillo Assembly Plant in Mexico. The new pick-up will complement Nissan's Frontier mid-size pick-up truck, which Nissan also supplies to Suzuki as the Equator. It stands to reason that the Dodge Ram will supply the underlying technology. Sales of the new Nissan pick-up will start in 2011.

Nissan on the other hand will produce a small car for Chrysler in Japan for the world market. The new small car will be based on 'a unique Chrysler concept and design', should be on sale by 2010 and will be built in Nissan's Oppama Plant in Japan. Which Chrysler concept will be used is unclear but there are three distinct possibilities, the recently released Chrysler EcoVoyager, the 2005 Chrysler Akino or 2006 Dodge Hornet.

Initial reports hinted at the fact that Chinese car maker Chery would build Chrysler's global small car, with Chery president Yin Tongyue and Chrysler's CEO Tom LaSorda even shaking hands on it. Whether this deal is still ongoing seems unlikely now that Nissan has stepped into the picture.

“Forging the right tactical partnerships is critical to the long-term success of Chrysler,” said Tom LaSorda, Chrysler LLC President and Vice Chairman after the signing ceremony. The global B segment counted for 19% (10 million units) of all global car sales in 2007, a very significant chunk of the pie which Chrysler is missing out on. In North America the segment is expected to grow by 32% (from 0.6 million units sold in 2007) while the industry is expected to shrink by 9% in 2008.

Carlos Tavares, Executive Vice President, Nissan Motor Company said, “This latest agreement builds on Nissan’s proven track record to deliver win-win product exchanges with multiple manufacturers around the world.”
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So are they dumping the Titan?
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So are they dumping the Titan?
They'll stick with the Ram platform as replacement and build in Mexico. They are also dumping the Quest.
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Damn, I thought the Titan was doing very well. That move caught me off gaurd...
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Damn, I thought the Titan was doing very well. That move caught me off gaurd...
i think it did do well when trucks were in style a couple years ago, but the big-3 are still the dominant truck players, even if arguably based mostly on badge, with the Tundra being the most popular "import" truck. I personally like the Titan better than anything currently out there.

I think this is a win-win move...no need for nissan to dedicate full engineering to designing and producing a new pickup for the next gen. Titan or whatever it'll be called...most of the risk now is passed onto Chrysler, so if it fails, no big R&D investment was made on their end. For Chrysler, small cars have small profits, but are very small risk when world markets are taken into consideration, so a win for them.
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Automotive News reports that "Looming regulatory changes on pickup truck fuel efficiency and emissions will cause Nissan North America Inc. to throw in the towel on manufacturing its full-sized Titans in 2011."
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And of course that would mean the death of their two SUV's (Nissan and Infiniti Armada)...

One and DONE. That's a damn shame...
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And of course that would mean the death of their two SUV's (Nissan and Infiniti Armada)...

One and DONE. That's a damn shame...
It would probably mean the death of those 2 SUV's, but it's not a given. They can focus more resources on another large truck-based SUV (maybe an enlarged Pathfinder platform?), or they can design an SUV based on the Chrysler truck platform they would be using for the Titan replacement. Or better yet, the pathfinder may move into full-size territory (although still smaller than an armada) as the xterra moves up in size.
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i could careless about those gas guzzlers.... i hope they discontinue all of them.
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i could careless about those gas guzzlers.... i hope they discontinue all of them.
$5.00 gallon gas should neatly do the trick.
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Titan would have been my second choice after the F150 too bad...
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$5.00 gallon gas should neatly do the trick.
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My brother had a Titan for a rental and it hauled but god damn did it chug gas! $40 of gas and it wasn't even 3/4 full
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My brother had a Titan for a rental and it hauled but god damn did it chug gas! $40 of gas and it wasn't even 3/4 full
That's where the domestics have the advantage...

$5/gal gas isn't going to change the minds of people who need full size trucks, but it will change the minds of people who want full size trucks. And people who need full size trucks can care less about how "nice" it is and get the best bang-for-buck, which with rebates, incentives, etc. the domestics have the advantage. And that's not mentioning the fact that most people who need full size trucks are or work with people who prefer domestics.
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I wonder if the Toyota Tundra trucks will go the same way as the Titans ?
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I wonder if the Toyota Tundra trucks will go the same way as the Titans ?
I don't think so...Toyota probably has too much already invested in the Tundra (its on its 2nd generation), so are willing to take more risks than Nissan would. They also have a slight better truck/full size SUV history than Nissan, not to mention the fact that with rising gas prices, is there really room in the full size truck segment for 2 non-traditional makes to compete with the widely established big-3?

Remeber, this isn't the Titan being killed off...it's just Nissan "hedging" to protect itself from the downside in case the market for full size trucks do turn bad by giving most of the investment and risk to Chrysler. Considering how big Toyota is, they can probably take the full risk themselves.
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Cerberus Rues Chrysler Drain as Nardelli Fails to Arrest Losses

Late last Aug. 5, the Sunday after New York buyout firm Cerberus Capital Management LP bought Chrysler LLC, the automaker's public relations team was huddled at headquarters in Auburn Hills, Michigan. First on the list was rewriting speeches to introduce the new top brass.

For chief executive officer, they inserted the name of Robert Nardelli, who'd been a Cerberus consultant since Home Depot Inc.'s board ousted him as CEO in January.

Next, they deleted Wolfgang Bernhard, who'd also been hired as a consultant and was slated to become chairman. During his tenure at Germany's DaimlerChrysler AG, Bernhard, 47, had struggled for four years as chief operating officer to increase Chrysler's production.

Nardelli, 60, gave his Cerberus bosses a different take on their $7.4 billion purchase.

The worst U.S. housing crisis since the 1930s was spilling into car buying. Chrysler, which had survived past struggles thanks to a 1980 federal loan guarantee and Daimler-Benz AG's $36 billion purchase in 1998, needed to face reality and forget about making more cars. The U.S. would be lucky to sell 15.5 million vehicles in 2008, 9 percent fewer than Chrysler's forecast.

Nardelli's bearish assessment helped win him the top job, and Bernhard quit, according to people familiar with the matter.....
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Late last Aug. 5, the Sunday after New York buyout firm Cerberus Capital Management LP bought Chrysler LLC, the automaker's public relations team was huddled at headquarters in Auburn Hills, Michigan. First on the list was rewriting speeches to introduce the new top brass.

For chief executive officer, they inserted the name of Robert Nardelli, who'd been a Cerberus consultant since Home Depot Inc.'s board ousted him as CEO in January.

Next, they deleted Wolfgang Bernhard, who'd also been hired as a consultant and was slated to become chairman. During his tenure at Germany's DaimlerChrysler AG, Bernhard, 47, had struggled for four years as chief operating officer to increase Chrysler's production.

Nardelli, 60, gave his Cerberus bosses a different take on their $7.4 billion purchase.

The worst U.S. housing crisis since the 1930s was spilling into car buying. Chrysler, which had survived past struggles thanks to a 1980 federal loan guarantee and Daimler-Benz AG's $36 billion purchase in 1998, needed to face reality and forget about making more cars. The U.S. would be lucky to sell 15.5 million vehicles in 2008, 9 percent fewer than Chrysler's forecast.

Nardelli's bearish assessment helped win him the top job, and Bernhard quit, according to people familiar with the matter.....
To increase Chrysler's production ..... Are you kidding ? If Bernhard had been decreasing Chrysler's production for the past four years, Chrysler would be in a much better shape than it is now.
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