End of the diesel era ?
#1
2G TLX-S
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End of the diesel era ?
Originally Posted by http://autoweek.com/article/diesel/will-mercedes-follow-vw-ditching-diesel-models
Will Mercedes follow VW in ditching diesel models?
Report: Daimler still in talks with EPA over 2017 diesels, faces Germany probe
April 14, 2017
Amid the tumult of the ongoing Volkswagen diesel crisis, now in its 20th month, it's easy to overlook the scandal's fallout on other automakers. As of April 2017, Mercedes-Benz parent company Daimler still has not obtained approval from the EPA to offer 2017 model-year diesel vehicles in the U.S., Reuters reports; Mercedes-Benz engineers are still in talks with the EPA a year after the agency asked Daimler to investigate the emissions certification process for its diesels.Reuters now reports Mercedes is still on the fence about obtaining the EPA certification for its 2017 diesels at all. Mercedes executives indicate they haven't made a decision, and they're not commenting on the specifics of the talks with the agency.Diesel sales have traditionally accounted for 2 to 3 percent of Mercedes' total sales volume in the U.S.; in Europe and other markets, this percentage is significantly higher, along with the variety of models offered with diesel engines (nearly all).In contrast to Volkswagen, the EPA is not withholding approval from Mercedes-Benz, and the automaker does not stand accused of anything in relation to diesel vehicles and their emission-control systems. The variety of BlueTEC clean diesel models Mercedes offers in the U.S. and Canada has varied in recent years: After reaching a low point in the 1990s when only the E-Class and the S-Class were offered with diesel engines, the GLS-Class and GLE-Class utilities have been headlining the diesel lineup in recent years.As late as fall 2016, Mercedes still planned to add diesel C-Class and GLC-Class vehicles to its stateside lineup in mid-2017, badged C300d and GLC300d to go up against diesel versions of the BMW 3-Series and X3, but the decision was halted pending EPA talks.Report: Daimler still in talks with EPA over 2017 diesels, faces Germany probe
April 14, 2017
The Reuters report follows the March 2017 launch of an investigation in Germany into whether Daimler employees committed fraud and engaged in false advertising in connection with diesel vehicles. In response, Daimler has stated it is cooperating with the investigation, and the German transport ministry has not revoked or withheld any permits for its diesel models in Germany.
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#2
Three Wheelin'
I think VW was doing great with their diesel cars at least here in PA until they started screwing with the EPA so I think Honda would have done just as good if not better with some diesel options.
I drove a few 1.9 and 2.0 liter diesel Jetta's and for being a 4 cylinder I really liked how it performed (torque was nice)
I drove a few 1.9 and 2.0 liter diesel Jetta's and for being a 4 cylinder I really liked how it performed (torque was nice)
#3
Azine Jabroni
I think VW was doing great with their diesel cars at least here in PA until they started screwing with the EPA so I think Honda would have done just as good if not better with some diesel options.
I drove a few 1.9 and 2.0 liter diesel Jetta's and for being a 4 cylinder I really liked how it performed (torque was nice)
I drove a few 1.9 and 2.0 liter diesel Jetta's and for being a 4 cylinder I really liked how it performed (torque was nice)
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kurtatx (04-18-2017)
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Race Director
I'm surprised there's not some easing of regs from Trump on this issue - probably because other than the Cruze diesel and much larger truck ones, no domestic maker in the mix.
Biker, who thinks CARB and EPA has done a great disservice to the US public by killing diesels.
Biker, who thinks CARB and EPA has done a great disservice to the US public by killing diesels.
#7
Azine Jabroni
Consumer trust in diesel is kind of shattered and big oil produces twice as much gasoline per barrel as diesel fuel. It's certainly possible Trump could lift regs, but the damage is somewhat done on that front.